Tulisa's bully rant at Misha, totally deserved

[MusicXian]

On the betfair forum, someone very close to a Little Mix girl-band member has stated the reason why Tulisa had a go at Misha (Tulisa was probably given the green light by producers too)

Supposedly Misha had already had a go at Sophie for one reason or another in the house. Then when Nu Vibe left, Tulisa took the Little Mix girls into their bedroom, and supposedly while away on an afternoon photo shoot, Misha took it upon herself to throw all the girls clothes and make-up out of their bedroom and into the hallway so that Misha herself could have the bedroom :joker:

Thats why Tulisa was given the green light to say about the bully stuff to the nation, and since then they have been trying to clean up Misha's act, they have not wanted to get rid of her, but simply ensure that she changes her ways because they obviously see great potential in Misha.

It is also why Kitty and Misha dislike each other massively, because I have read in an interview with the Little Mix girls that they saw Kitty as like an older sister, so I am sure Kitty was quite protective of them.

[zoebug]

Rubbish and hearsay

Misha and Janet shared a room.

FACT: All the other competing acts, including Janet, Kitty and Sammi all have denied anything like bullying happened. Louis already has apologised for calling Misha a bully, he realised that he made a mistake and tried to rectify. Even if a one off arguement did take place (which the is no evidence) the treatment by the haters and online bullies of Misha has been vastly worse than anything she may have done. And yet you go on spinning this lie and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

From the Telegraph, Mirror and others today ....Janet blasted suggestions from judges Tulisa Contostavlos and Louis Walsh that Misha B may have bullied other contestants backstage.
"That was absolute lies. I couldn't get over that. People that know her and her fanbase know that that's a pile of poo really," she said.
Most things you read in the media about Misha, Janet and the other contestants are simply untrue. Today Janet said everything was “fine” with one another backstage. Regards Misha "I had no problems with anyone, I’m not that type of person really,” said Janet. “I got on very well with her. We shared a room for a very long period of time so it was absolutely cool." “Everyone treats each other with respect, we sit down, and we talk. I don’t get how the press can have so many stories”."I'm glad Misha's there because she is so deserving of being there, she works so hard, she wants it so badly, it's so true that she deserved it more than I did," Janet said.

[MusicXian]

Well as said this came from one of the girl-bands members family, obviously all hearsay still, but it's plausible that this is just as possible to happen as yours where a friend of Misha (Janet) plays it down as not happening.

Things like this happen, it's human nature, there is no way in weeks of being together in a house, strong-minded people will not have arguments.

[Niamh.]

Well, the fact that Tulisa and Louis were annoyed with Misha for her behaviour had to have come from somewhere.

[Marc]

Well, the fact that Tulisa and Louis were annoyed with Misha for her behaviour had to have come from somewhere.

Exactly.

The story in the OP doesn't come across as completely unrealistic to me, Misha seems like exactly the right person to be a bully or a bitch to people in the house. She's a diva and she will need to sort her act out if she is going to be popular after this show

[Kate!]

True saying....Where there's smoke there's fire. I think Janet has probably been primed to play it all down and not cause a fuss, they probably have it in the contract's to say what they are told to say.

[Jords]

Niamh is right it has to have stemmed from somewhere, they aint all getting pissed because Misha is waking up in the middle of the night and eating all the Cheerios.

Also it might not have been 'professional' to mention it on live TV, but if good behaviour can be praised, bad behaviour should be allowed to be condemned.

I think its relatively obvious Janet would play down anything Misha did as they were buddies and Misha's attitude was rubbing off on her a tad.

[Niamh.]

Niamh is right it has to have stemmed from somewhere, they aint all getting pissed because Misha is waking up in the middle of the night and eating all the Cheerios.

Also it might not have been 'professional' to mention it on live TV, but if good behaviour can be praised, bad behaviour should be allowed to be condemned.

I think its relatively obvious Janet would play down anything Misha did as they were buddies and Misha's attitude was rubbing off on her a tad.

Eating all the cheerios is a serious business Jordy :nono:

[Jords]

Eating all the cheerios is a serious business Jordy :nono:

I know but not quite bully standard... unless the ho is using all the milk :nono:

[Niamh.]

I know but not quite bully standard... unless the ho is using all the milk :nono:

Wouldn't put it past her :hmph:

[Marsh.]

I'd take what Janet says with a pinch of salt.
I'm pretty sure all contestants who make it to the live shows still have a contract with the show even after they've been eliminated which ties them down for about a year afterwards. So, Janet's not gonna want to say anything negative anyway, like denying she argued with Rowland.

No doubt Tulisa got a slapped wrist and was told to be nice as pie because apart from one tiny comment, she's done nothing but praise Misha for every performance.

[Vicky.]

Niamh is right it has to have stemmed from somewhere, they aint all getting pissed because Misha is waking up in the middle of the night and eating all the Cheerios.

Also it might not have been 'professional' to mention it on live TV, but if good behaviour can be praised, bad behaviour should be allowed to be condemned.

I think its relatively obvious Janet would play down anything Misha did as they were buddies and Misha's attitude was rubbing off on her a tad.

True, but I dont really think that was the time or the place to do it tbh.

Reminded me a bit of Cheryl blasting Wagner over something she had read in the press (after spending weeks telling us not to believe the pres :laugh: )

[MTVN]

True, but I dont really think that was the time or the place to do it tbh.

Reminded me a bit of Cheryl blasting Wagner over something she had read in the press (after spending weeks telling us not to believe the pres :laugh: )

Haha oh yeah that was bitchy, the poor guy

[Jords]

True, but I dont really think that was the time or the place to do it tbh.

Reminded me a bit of Cheryl blasting Wagner over something she had read in the press (after spending weeks telling us not to believe the pres :laugh: )

Yepp as said was probably unprofessional but meh it was the 1 comment and not like shes commenting what a cow she is week in week out :laugh:

LOL that was so stoopid of Cheryl!!

[Marsh.]

Especially since what Wagner said was a compliment and was twisted out of context.

[zoebug]

It was not just Janet denying it ... and if you read what else she has said since leaving ...she is def not following the x factor party line.

But all the other ex contestants including kitty, sammi have also denied it.

If that guy can say he was a little mix dad, i can say i say I am her grandmother and i never met the faker.

You get a better image of what the contestants are like with each other by viewing the video and pics of Amelia, Marcus, Misha together at Winter Wonderland with Little Mix.

[Jords]

zoebug is Misha :idc:

[MusicXian]

Not saying Misha and Little Mix don't get along, but as said, its totally plausible that things happen in the house and Misha is one of the biggest charcters there so obviously would have alot to say in any matter.

BTW the guy from betfair seems to be the real deal because he has mentioned alot of other things to do with the girls, not only to do with that bully stuff with Misha.

[MusicXian]

zoebug is Misha :idc:

Misha or a friend :D

[zoebug]

( "zoebug is Misha" Jords)

LoLz thats probably really cruel to Misha

I am a bully victim of a crowd of people who won financial settlement, who hates seeing injustice and can smell false accusations a mile off.

Say... for sake of argument a one off act did take place..

FACT: Bullying is not a one off act...its a long term process of verbal or physical abuse, and the is def no evidence of that.

FACT: Even if a one off event did take place (which is doubtful) the treatment by the haters and online bullies of Misha has been vastly worse than anything she may have done. Hater be ashamed of yourselves.

[Brother Leon]

Oh another Misha is a bully accusation.


If anyone is a bully it is the online peoPle who insist on putting her down with such accusations.

Disgusting.

[MusicXian]

You can call it bullying or just plain stupidity, whatever it is, Misha definitely did something. Yeah maybe bullying is a bit far stretched and could have been the wrong word to use in that situation though seems Tulisa wanted to get her point across.

[MusicXian]

Oh another Misha is a bully accusation.


If anyone is a bully it is the online peoPle who insist on putting her down with such accusations.

Disgusting.

Until now there had been no clear reason to the accusation, I was just sharing what I read :)

[zoebug]

Spreading/sharing a rumour that has been totally denied by all persons actually in that environment is to my mind joining in of the bullying of a victim.

[MusicXian]

Yeah sure Misha reads TIBB and takes what I post to heart.

Anyway you say it's been denied but how come I read in a magazine Kitty say she never speaks to Misha and doesn't want to give a reason why?

Things happen in the house, but they are contracted to the show so can't share too much outside of the corridors, even after they have left.

Thing is I don't even mind Misha personally and she has a voice, but not my style of music either.

[Brother Leon]

Kitty is racist creature according to "reports"


Couldn't give a poo what she says or thinks.

[Niamh.]

Spreading/sharing a rumour that has been totally denied by all persons actually in that environment is to my mind joining in of the bullying of a victim.

Oh for Gods sake, she's a contestant on X Factor. One of the judges was the one who started all this, we are entitled to discuss it.

[zoebug]

But Kitty has said no Bullying took place

[zoebug]

I am just correcting wrongful accusations in this discussion :)

Anything wrong with that?

I am argueing that the Tulisias Bully rant was in no way deserved. :)

[MusicXian]

In what you read maybe and again the contestants can't state too much of what goes on. Most of them will be on tour together.

[MusicXian]

You say we are wrongful, so why does that make you correct? They are rumoured for a reason and no one other than them know exactly what happened however you cant assume to be correct based on contestants contracted to the show and now the tour playing it down.

[Niamh.]

I am just correcting wrongful accusations in this discussion :)

Anything wrong with that?

I am argueing that the Tulisias Bully rant was in no way deserved. :)

Why would she say it then? Something had to have happened for both her and Louis to say something that week, don't you think? Or are you suggesting nothing at all happened and they decided to just say it for no apparent reason?

[bbfan1991]

First of all where is the proof? Misha accused of bullying and people suddenly believe hear say. I like Misha but if there was concrete proof I would not have been on her side..

Can anyone remember Kitty being accused of racism against one of The Risk in the papers and some people actually believed that accusation:bored:. This show is notorious for manipulation:rolleyes:.

[zoebug]

Nothing may have happened

I can only guess wildly why those unsupported accusations took place. It was Louis who said one of his acts were bullied, yet they all denied it. Tulisa said Misha had been mean...??? maybe Louis and Tulisa were being over competitive in their support of their own acts; Misha at that time was the clear favourite. Maybe they knocked her down to stir up controversy and viewing figures.

[MusicXian]

At the time Janet was clear fave. Misha was about 4th fave :)

[bbfan1991]

It is bound to have got frosty, perhaps arguments in the heat of the moment which have been blown out of proportion by the XF PR team for their big story of the weak because the contestants are going to have their ups and downs..

[zoebug]

At the time Janet was clear fave. Misha was about 4th fave :)

:) i corrected

[bbfan1991]

Personally I believe Tulisa saw Misha as a threat to her acts because Misha and Little Mix/The Risk are nearly similar music wise and I am not fooled by her sucking up either to Misha now...

Misha was already dividing opinion then but I do not believe she is this devil incarnate people some thinks she is, everyone has their flaws good and bad.

Either way I just hope now Misha won't win that after the show she picks herself back up and gets herself a record deal.

[MusicXian]

It is bound to have got frosty, perhaps arguments in the heat of the moment which have been blown out of proportion by the XF PR team for their big story of the weak because the contestants are going to have their ups and downs..

This at least is more reasonable, something most likely happened, possible it got blow. Out of proportion too. However producers rule the show so they wouldn't have let Tulisa say it without their authority or she and Louis got a big smacked bottom for it. I think producers have the green light perhaps Misha was bossy at that point, almost to try get her to clean her act because no doubt since the producers have been doing their utmost to push her towards the final.

[bbfan1991]

Live TV is unpredictable, maybe the producers were not expecting Tulisa or Louis to say that.

If I were a member of Misha's family I would be unhappy that this person is labelling their loved one a bully on live TV without any direct or concrete proof other than what their act has supposedly said and how do we even know if it was true?

[MusicXian]

Judges are just puppets, if Tulisa said it out of line it wouldn't look favourable on her getting a contract next year.

[Jords]

First of all where is the proof? Misha accused of bullying and people suddenly believe hear say. I like Misha but if there was concrete proof I would not have been on her side..

Can anyone remember Kitty being accused of racism against one of The Risk in the papers and some people actually believed that accusation:bored:. This show is notorious for manipulation:rolleyes:.

Judges have never picked Kitty up on bad behaviour, theyve always said she is a pleasure to know and its a shame the public dont connect with her.

With Misha both Louis and Tulisa have, and Gary and Kelly promptly tried to move off the subject.

Its pretty clear shes a cow.

[Brother Leon]

First of all where is the proof? Misha accused of bullying and people suddenly believe hear say. I like Misha but if there was concrete proof I would not have been on her side..

Can anyone remember Kitty being accused of racism against one of The Risk in the papers and some people actually believed that accusation:bored:. This show is notorious for manipulation:rolleyes:.

I remember people saying what she apparently said was ok. :joker:


Anyway Misha is seen photographed getting along with the girls and little mix alot. I highly doubt she is this big monster The media and Louis and T portray.

[zoebug]

I am cooking Pizza...need to go to my stain-glass class...anyone want a virtual slice :)

[Niamh.]

I am cooking Pizza...need to go to my stain-glass class...anyone want a virtual slice :)

What type? :suspect:

[zoebug]

Calling someone a cow is childish abuse and a stupid thing to say.

Cows have four legs and cant sing.

I sorry its only Margaritta

[Niamh.]

Calling someone a cow is childish abuse and a stupid thing to say.

Cows have four legs and cant sing.

I sorry its only Margaritta

AdSYhwLENvM

I will take some of that pizza :hugesmile:

[Jords]

Calling someone a cow is childish abuse and a stupid thing to say.

Cows have four legs and cant sing.

I sorry its only Margaritta

I could have called her a selfish arrogant biatch but you choose what you prefer. I thought calling her a cow was quite pleasant really.

[zoebug]

squeezing the pizza down the usb port

[zoebug]

I could have called her a selfish arrogant biatch but you choose what you prefer. I thought calling her a cow was quite pleasant really.

show me a video link where she has been selfish and arrogant...all i have seen is false rubbish like Dan Wootan's fake pile of poo that came out a couple of days after the video/pics of Amelia, Marcus anD Misha having fun and laughter at winter wonderland...and janet says after " “Everyone treats each other with respect, we sit down, and we talk. I don’t get how the press can have so many stories”.

[King Gizzard]

Tulisa's just as bad for mentioning it in front of millions of viewers, and she complains about sabotage? The womans an idiot

[zoebug]

Tulisa's just as bad for mentioning it in front of millions of viewers, and she complains about sabotage? The womans an idiot

that was funny...i did think well you (meaning Tulisa) would know about sabotage :)

[Mystic Mock]

I dont think Misha deserved it as the judges are suppose to be professional,I also think Tulisa and Louis are the reason why Misha hit the bottom two 3 times as the public dont want to vote for an accused bully.

[Tom]

Why does Tulisa get all the criticism for this? It was LOUIS that mentioned 'bullying' yet he has got completely away with it. Tulisa just called her out on backstage issues and was very vague about it

[Mystic Mock]

Why does Tulisa get all the criticism for this? It was LOUIS that mentioned 'bullying' yet he has got completely away with it. Tulisa just called her out on backstage issues and was very vague about it

Tulisa gets the main blame because she brought the subject up,although I agree with you on Louis getting away with it.

[Jords]

Why does Tulisa get all the criticism for this? It was LOUIS that mentioned 'bullying' yet he has got completely away with it. Tulisa just called her out on backstage issues and was very vague about it

Always confused me too.

[MusicXian]

Of course it actually coming out on the show probably should not have happened despite my title saying it was deserved. I think behind closed doors the rant is deserved if true, and probably saying if she continued to act like it there is a chance to get thrown off or something.

However, I do feel if the producers let Tulisa and Louis say it for a reason it would be IMO that they see alot in Misha and this was for them to try and sharpen her up a bit, I think they may even have thought she could get a bit of sympathy for it (being accused of being a bully), or they just got it horribly wrong and didnt realise the reaction from the voting public would be so bad to her, and that is why since week 3, they have been pimping Misha, giving her the sympathetic VTs and sob stories, the whole works to try and get public back on side, but its not helped.

Either that or Tulisa just totally went against producer's wishes and damaged what was one of their stars who they hoped for the final and again, producers have been working her towards that even still since then.

No doubt week 3 was also the week they started their disection of Janet's hopes on the show, so it was interesting that this week they also killed Misha too and never really showed any hope that Sophie would go far. This makes me think more that Tulisa and Louis went totally against their wishes (making me think something did happen behind closed doors also) and since then they have been trying to get Misha back on track, at least to set her up for a recording deal with the hope of being successful.

[zoebug]

Why does Tulisa get all the criticism for this? It was LOUIS that mentioned 'bullying' yet he has got completely away with it. Tulisa just called her out on backstage issues and was very vague about it


Louis has since apologised (though nobody has noticed), maybe Tulisia (knowing the fall out) could as well.

I am not sure that an apology can stop some of the vilification i have read all over the internet.

Its amazing how easy it is to stir up hatred and once its out of control how do we stop it?

[Jords]

I think most people got that impression of Misha way before Tulisa's and Louis' comments tbh... I know I did!

[Tom]

Louis has since apologised (though nobody has noticed), maybe Tulisia (knowing the fall out) could as well.

I am not sure that an apology can stop some of the vilification i have read all over the internet.

Its amazing how easy it is to stir up hatred and once its out of control how do we stop it?

Tulisa has voted to save Misha three times so theres hardly any anomosity there. She also said on Alan Carr's show that it was Louis that said it, not her

She has nothing to apologise for on that front, but maybe it was a bit ill-advised for her to mention 'issues;

I do wonder if that has had an impact on public perception of Misha and whether she still would have ended up in the bottom 2 even without the comments

I think most people got that impression of Misha way before Tulisa's and Louis' comments tbh... I know I did!

Yeah I thought she was a bit over confident when performing but thats no bad thing. To me she performs like the Sunday night guest performers

[Jords]

show me a video link where she has been selfish and arrogant...all i have seen is false rubbish like Dan Wootan's fake pile of poo that came out a couple of days after the video/pics of Amelia, Marcus anD Misha having fun and laughter at winter wonderland...and janet says after " “Everyone treats each other with respect, we sit down, and we talk. I don’t get how the press can have so many stories”.

At the start I never felt like she was humbled by positive comments from the judges, but to me came across like they meant nothing as she thought she was the best anyway. Thin like between confidence and being cocky but she stepped over it by a far out margin imo.

Now she puts on this smile when receiving praises... which I reckon is part of this great master plan to attempt to change her bad attitude. And it cant be made up when both Tulisa and Louis commented on it - 2 people that spend time with her. Of course things are going to be blown out of proportion or underplayed, but somewhere down the line Misha has been a bitch to live/work with.