The most racist black man ever

[karezza]

Is this the most racist person on Earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afGRza6bFYw

:nono:

[Glenn.]

If that was a white person saying black people were to blame for everything, there would be uproar.

[MTVN]

If that was a white person saying black people were to blame for everything, there would be uproar.

You say that like this happened yesterday, it was 6 years ago

[Glenn.]

There still would be uproar regardless if it was 6yrs ago or yesterday.

[SoBig]

If that was a white person saying black people were to blame for everything, there would be uproar.
Some black people get a pass, because of the history. The whole slavery thing was kind of a big deal. Plus the whole segregation thing that existed just 40 years ago.

[Shaun]

-can't remember the last thread karezza made that wasn't about racism-... seems to be a favourite topic.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

black people have every right to be racist towards white people after what they suffered /god

[InOne]

Just to put it out there, how many years are we going to have to apologise for what our ancestors did?

And it's also true their own people sold them as slaves as well :nono:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

black people > white people :hmph:

[InOne]

black people > white people :hmph:

Racist :hmph:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

im pressing charges /woman from that video i posted in sassy black woman appreciation thread

[Niall]

If that was a white person saying black people were to blame for everything, there would be uproar.

Tbh, that is true.

[Ramsay]

lol
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[Scarlett.]

Some black people get a pass, because of the history. The whole slavery thing was kind of a big deal. Plus the whole segregation thing that existed just 40 years ago.

Which current generations had no hand in...so we should obviously the whole white race should be forced to feel bad because of what some retarded white people did way back when...just because we're white and they were too?

[arista]

Is this the most racist person on Earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afGRza6bFYw

:nono:



No this is American Politics
Not that bad

[lostalex]

The fact that this was on C-SPAN, American government funded TV, well, god bless freedom of the press and freedom of speech in America.

Thank GAWD this guy has the freedom to make himself look like an IDIOT on national television. His hateful and bigoted and genocidal views can be viewed by us all, and ridiculed by us all, and condemned by us all.

That's what makes freedom of speech so great.

[Grimnir]

black people > white people :hmph:

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

[lostalex]

black people have every right to be racist towards white people after what they suffered /god

suffered what exactly?

Do i have every right to be racist considering everything gay people have suffered too then?

Yey!! i have permission to be racist!!! woo hoo!

WTF.

[SoBig]

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

Wow.... This post is so incredibly racist and ignorant. Wow. I honestly can't believe people still think like this in the 21st century. I guess somethings will never change.

Yes, they should be happy that they were brought over to the new world in chains to live the rest of their lives as slaves. Where they were beaten to death, raped and made to feel less than human, because of something as simple as the colour of their skin.

What you posted just proves that racism still exists today and its disappointing.

I mean dude, are you really THIS IGNORANT?

[SoBig]

suffered what exactly?

Do i have every right to be racist considering everything gay people have suffered too then?

Yey!! i have permission to be racist!!! woo hoo!

WTF.
I guess you suck at spotting sarcasm.


And what does being gay have to do with racism? Again, you never fail at making yourself look silly.

[Niamh.]

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

What an absolutely disgusting post. I really hope you're trying to provoke a reaction and you don't really think like that.

[MTVN]

^ I agree, what a load of racist s**t that post is

[lostalex]

I guess you suck at spotting sarcasm.


And what does being gay have to with racism? Again, you never fail at making yourself look silly.

Oh my bad, i thought the argument here was that if your "people" have suffered, then it makes it okay to be a racist.

[Roy Mars III]

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

Not even you can believe anything you just wrote.

[Niall]

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

Been talking to ElProximo, have you? :bored:

[Enid]

Oh what a surprise. People once again throwing the 'R' word around to make themselves feel better than they actually are. And I wasn't referring to the video. I'll save my opinion for those who care less for political correctness.

Video was amusing though...

We have to exterminate white people off of the face of the planet.

*Applause*

Rofl....

[Livia]

I guess this is just further proof that there are as many black knobheads as there are white knobheads.

[SoBig]

Oh yes, because what he said wasn't racist at all.

Lets go to the dictionary and see the definition for racism.

belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others

2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

The belief that some races are inherently superior (physically, intellectually, or culturally) to others and therefore have a right to dominate them. In the United States, racism, particularly by whites against blacks, has created profound racial tension and conflict in virtually all aspects of American society. Until the breakthroughs achieved by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s, white domination over blacks was institutionalized and supported in all branches and levels of government, by denying blacks their civil rights and opportunities to participate in political, economic, and social communities.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

Just by the simple fact that what you just posted, shows that you, Enid too are a racist. No better than that idiot in that youtube video.

[MTVN]

Oh what a surprise. People once again throwing the 'R' word around to make themselves feel better than they actually are. And I wasn't referring to the video. I'll save my opinion for those who care less for political correctness.

Video was amusing though...

We have to exterminate white people off of the face of the planet.

*Applause*

Rofl....

Because claiming that black people were inferiors who need the white man to civilise them isn't racist at all right? PC gone mad I tell you :rolleyes:

[SoBig]

Because claiming that black people were inferiors who need the white man to civilise them isn't racist at all right? PC gone mad I tell you :rolleyes:
Because she shares the same exact thoughts. She is a racist herself. There are people in the KKK that will tell you that they aren't racist.

[lostalex]

I've actually known skinhead nazi's that weren't racist.

Sometimes people just join groups for other reasons, it's hard to explain, but there is a peer pressure element.

I was friends with a skinhead in highschool, and he was one of the nicest people i've ever met. Just because someone is racist doesn't mean they are a bad person. He would never hurt anyone, black or white.

[MTVN]

I've actually known skinhead nazi's that weren't racist.

Sometimes people just join groups for other reasons, it's hard to explain, but there is a peer pressure element.

I was friends with a skinhead in highschool, and he was one of the nicest people i've ever met. Just because someone is racist doesn't mean they are a bad person. He would never hurt anyone, black or white.

If he wasn't a racist than he wasn't a Nazi

[SoBig]

I've actually known skinhead nazi's that weren't racist.

Sometimes people just join groups for other reasons, it's hard to explain, but there is a peer pressure element.

I was friends with a skinhead in highschool, and he was one of the nicest people i've ever met. Just because someone is racist doesn't mean they are a bad person. He would never hurt anyone, black or white.

Let me go to an earlier post that I made in this very thread.

Again lostalex, you never fail at making yourself look silly.

[SoBig]

I love how some people try to justify racism.

[lostalex]

I love how some people try to justify racism.

there is no such thing as racism, geneticist's have already proven that every person on the planet is MIXED race, there is no such thing as a person that is 1 race. therefore racism doesn't exist. WE are ALL many races.

What we are really talking about is prejudice, and every person is prejudiced. We all have stereotypes in our heads, and anyone who is honest will admit to being prejudiced.

[Enid]

Oh shoot, you got me. That's EXACTLY what I am.

Damn, you kids are too smart for me.

[Pyramid*]

there is no such thing as racism, geneticist's have already proven that every person on the planet is MIXED race, there is no such thing as a person that is 1 race. therefore racism doesn't exist. WE are ALL many races.

What we are really talking about is prejudice, and every person is prejudiced. We all have stereotypes in our heads, and anyone who is honest will admit to being prejudiced.

I will hold my hand up and say I do have a particular stereotype in my head. Right now, Right this very minute.

Damn, foiled again.

[lostalex]

I will hold my hand up and say I do have a particular stereotype in my head. Right now, Right this very minute.

Damn, foiled again.

yay for the truth! (even if you don't realize how truthful it is)

[SoBig]

there is no such thing as racism, geneticist's have already proven that every person on the planet is MIXED race, there is no such thing as a person that is 1 race. therefore racism doesn't exist. WE are ALL many races.

What we are really talking about is prejudice, and every person is prejudiced. We all have stereotypes in our heads, and anyone who is honest will admit to being prejudiced.
lol dude you crack me up.

Again let me post this.

Again lostalex, you never fail at making yourself look silly.
So if a black person says, "I hate that bleeping white cracker." "I hope all white people are exterminated off the face of this earth." Then he goes on a shooting spree and kills every white person that he sees.

That isn't racist according to you? Since racism doesn't exists.

[SoBig]

Oh shoot, you got me. That's EXACTLY what I am.

Damn, you kids are too smart for me.
It is fairly obvious. You have racist thoughts.

[Pyramid*]

yay for the truth! (even if you don't realize how truthful it is)

Oh you can be sure it was the truth alright.......

Quite happy to confirm it, especially right here, right now.

[InOne]

It is fairly obvious. You have racist thoughts.

Casually throwing the R word around doesn't help anyone. You don't know her or what she thinks. You're going on a few lines of text.

[MTVN]

Oh shoot, you got me. That's EXACTLY what I am.

Damn, you kids are too smart for me.

I'm not necessarily saying you are a racist, just that it's a bit dumb to deny that Grimnir's post was. I don't exactly know why you're being so condescending either, having yet to even provide an argument yourself.

[MTVN]

there is no such thing as racism, geneticist's have already proven that every person on the planet is MIXED race, there is no such thing as a person that is 1 race. therefore racism doesn't exist. WE are ALL many races.

What we are really talking about is prejudice, and every person is prejudiced. We all have stereotypes in our heads, and anyone who is honest will admit to being prejudiced.

So if one person discriminates between two people on the grounds that one is black and one is white, that isn't racist?

[Pyramid*]

lol dude you crack me up.

Again let me post this.


So if a black person says, "I hate that bleeping white cracker." "I hope all white people are exterminated off the face of this earth." Then he goes on a shooting spree and kills every white person that he sees.

That isn't racist according to you? Since racism doesn't exists.

I think Lostalex's get out clause there will be the fact that there was a shooting spree and people were killed. Apparently that's the barometer, :shocked: from what I can gather from his posts............................

*scratches head*

[Pyramid*]

So if one person discriminates between two people on the grounds that one is black and one is white, that isn't racist?

Can we add in Red Indians to this please MTVN, let's make it a wee bit harder here.

[Enid]

I'm not necessarily saying you are a racist, just that it's a bit dumb to deny that Grimnir's post was. I don't exactly know why you're being so condescending either, having yet to even provide an argument yourself.
No, but SoBig did.

And why should I? I just proved people are too quick to judge.

Oh, she has a difference of opinion! Quick! Lets brand her a racist before I even hear what she has to say!

This is no place to have an intelligent discussion so I'll leave it there.

[SoBig]

Can we add in Red Indians to this please MTVN, let's make it a wee bit harder here.
Native Americans*

[SoBig]

No, but SoBig did.

And why should I? I just proved people are too quick to judge.

Oh, she has a difference of opinion! Quick! Lets brand her a racist before I even hear what she has to say!

This is no place to have an intelligent discussion so I'll leave it there.
So explain to me how his post WAS NOT RACIST.

I'd love to hear your reasoning.

[Pyramid*]

Native Americans*

You clearly missed the irony....

[MTVN]

No, but SoBig did.

And why should I? I just proved people are too quick to judge.

Oh, she has a difference of opinion! Quick! Lets brand her a racist before I even hear what she has to say!

This is no place to have an intelligent discussion so I'll leave it there.

Do you not think it a bit hypocritical to criticise someone for being too quick to judge when your first post here accused people of using the word racism "to make themselves feel better than they actually are"? You didn't exactly foster much intelligent discussion yourself with that post

[SoBig]

Do you not think it a bit hypocritical to criticise someone for being too quick to judge when your first post here accused people of using the word racism "to make themselves feel better than they actually are"? You didn't exactly foster much intelligent discussion yourself with that post
:worship:

[lostalex]

The fact that you all can't even agree on races. can someone please provide a list of the so-called "races" please?

What race am i? What race are you? IS english a race? british? European? White? what is race.

Someone please give me a list of these so called "races", cause i don't even know what "race" i am. I'd like to have a list to choose from, i guess race is a choice now?

[Pyramid*]

The fact that you all can't even agree on races. can someone please provide a list of the so-called "races" please?

What race am i? What race are you? IS english a race? british? European? White? what is race.

Someone please give me a list of these so called "races", cause i don't even know what "race" i am. I'd like to have a list to choose from, i guess race is a choice now?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_humans)) should help you along the way in your quest for information.


*General Warning. Contains big words*

[lostalex]

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_humans)) should help you along the way in your quest for information.


*General Warning. Contains big words*

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status."


Wow, that REALLY narrows it down....

Thank you for proving my point.

[SoBig]

The fact that you all can't even agree on races. can someone please provide a list of the so-called "races" please?

What race am i? What race are you? IS english a race? british? European? White? what is race.

Someone please give me a list of these so called "races", cause i don't even know what "race" i am. I'd like to have a list to choose from, i guess race is a choice now?
English? No.
British? No.
European? No.
White? Yes.

There are nationalities, ethnicity and races.

[Pyramid*]

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status."


Wow, that REALLY narrows it down....

Thank you for proving my point.

Which point would that have been exactly? It's so hard to keep up at times.

[lostalex]

English? No.
British? No.
European? No.
White? Yes.

There are nationalities, ethnicity and races.

there are not concrete nationalities, ethnicities or races. sorry, but it's just false.

Jersey Shore? are they Italian? are they White? are they American?

It's all stupid choices to segregate yourself.

If you believe you have a race than you are voluntarily participating in segregation.

[lostalex]

Which point would that have been exactly? It's so hard to keep up at times.

My point that there is no such thing as definitive "races".

[SoBig]

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status."


Wow, that REALLY narrows it down....

Thank you for proving my point.
One thing I do agree with you is the whole race thing is bs. Race is something man came up with to separate people in groups.

[Pyramid*]

lol dude you crack me up.

Again let me post this.


So if a black person says, "I hate that bleeping white cracker." "I hope all white people are exterminated off the face of this earth." Then he goes on a shooting spree and kills every white person that he sees.

That isn't racist according to you? Since racism doesn't exists.


Lost Alex..... what's your answer to this question that was asked?

[Enid]

Do you not think it a bit hypocritical to criticise someone for being too quick to judge when your first post here accused people of using the word racism "to make themselves feel better than they actually are"? You didn't exactly foster much intelligent discussion yourself with that post
Nah. Know why? Nobody jumped on the "black people > white people" comment. Although it was most likely said in jest, that's beside the point. Grimnir was likely trying to provoke a reaction and he received a very typical response.

Also lostalex, just know we all came from Africa once upon a time. Some of us just decided we were sick of living in mud huts and making a bajillion babies we were unable to feed.

Hohoho that'll get their mouths foaming.

[lostalex]

Lost Alex..... what's your answer to this question that was asked?

My answer is that it's not racist. Anyone that hateful would find any excuse to be violent, and the illusion of racism is just what he used. Anyone who would kill anyone is clearly a psychopath, and trying to justify murder by race is just as psychotic as the person capable of murder.

Murder is dispicable, and the inculsion of race into the conversation is just media sensationalism.

[SoBig]

there are not concrete nationalities, ethnicities or races. sorry, but it's just false.

Jersey Shore? are they Italian? are they White? are they American?

It's all stupid choices to segregate yourself.

If you believe you have a race than you are voluntarily participating in segregation.
Yes they are Italian American. Thats their ethnicity.

Yes, they are white. Thats their race.

Yes, they are American. Thats their nationality.

[lostalex]

Yes they are Italian American. Thats their ethnicity.

Yes, they are white. Thats their race.

Yes, they are American. Thats their nationality.


white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

[Enid]

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.
It wasn't just the Jews Nazis disliked.

[Pyramid*]

My point that there is no such thing as definitive "races".

here's a bit more from the link I provided you with. Some of it pertains to your own homeland so hopefully that will provide you with some answers closer to home. It even provides pictures to make it so much easier.

You'll note that the British Police don't just band folk into 4 classifications.


In law enforcement http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/99/Question_book-new.svg/50px-Question_book-new.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Question_book-new.svg)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/RaceMugshots.jpg/210px-RaceMugshots.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RaceMugshots.jpg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.18/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RaceMugshots.jpg)
In the U.S., the FBI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation)identifies fugitives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropometry) to categories they define as sex, physical features, occupation, nationality, and race.


From left to right, the FBI assigns the above individuals to the following races: White, Black, White (Hispanic), Asian. Top row males, bottom row females.[122] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_humans)#cite_note-FBI_.E2.80.93_Most_Wanted_.E2.80.93_The_FBI.27s_Te n_Most_Wanted_Fugitives-121)




Main article: Racial profiling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_profiling)
See also: Race and crime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime) and Race and crime in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States)
In an attempt to provide general descriptions that may facilitate the job of law enforcement officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_officer) seeking to apprehend suspects, the United States FBI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation) employs the term "race" to summarize the general appearance (skin color, hair texture, eye shape, and other such easily noticed characteristics) of individuals whom they are attempting to apprehend.

From the perspective of law enforcement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_agency) officers, it is generally more important to arrive at a description that will readily suggest the general appearance of an individual than to make a scientifically valid categorization by DNA or other such means.

Thus, in addition to assigning a wanted individual to a racial category, such a description will include: height, weight, eye color, scars and other distinguishing characteristics.

British Police use a classification based in the ethnic background of British society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_society): W1 (White-British), W2 (White-Irish), W9 (Any other white background); M1 (White and black Caribbean), M2 (White and black African), M3 (White and Asian), M9 (Any other mixed background); A1 (Asian-Indian), A2 (Asian-Pakistani), A3 (Asian-Bangladeshi), A9 (Any other Asian background); B1 (Black Caribbean), B2 (Black African), B3 (Any other black background); O1 (Chinese), O9 (Any other). Some of the characteristics that constitute these groupings are biological and some are learned (cultural, linguistic, etc.) traits that are easy to notice.

[lostalex]

It wasn't just the Jews Nazis disliked.

i never said it was. obviously they killed ******* and disableds and gays etc....

but people do describe anti-semitism as "racism" in the media and general culture quite regularly.

[SoBig]

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.
Because you Americans are ignorant. Don't know the difference of race, ethnicity and nationality. Three completely different things.

Most Mexicans have white and Native American ancestry.

[Pyramid*]

i never said it was. obviously they killed ******* and disableds and gays etc....

but people do describe anti-semitism as "racism" in the media and general culture quite regularly.

Deary me.

[lostalex]

here's a bit more from the link I provided you with. Some of it pertains to your own homeland so hopefully that will provide you with some answers closer to home. It even provides pictures to make it so much easier.

You'll note that the British Police don't just band folk into 4 classifications.

how many classifications do you think is fair?

[lostalex]

Because you Americans are ignorant. Don't know the difference of race, ethnicity and nationality. Three completely different things.

Most Mexicans have white and Native American ancestry.

yes, and so do most Americans... so how is it "racist" if an American hates a Mexican??? how is it racist if both are the same "race"?

[Pyramid*]

lol dude you crack me up.

Again let me post this.


So if a black person says, "I hate that bleeping white cracker." "I hope all white people are exterminated off the face of this earth." Then he goes on a shooting spree and kills every white person that he sees.

That isn't racist according to you? Since racism doesn't exists.

My answer is that it's not racist. Anyone that hateful would find any excuse to be violent, and the illusion of racism is just what he used. Anyone who would kill anyone is clearly a psychopath, and trying to justify murder by race is just as psychotic as the person capable of murder.

Murder is dispicable, and the inculsion of race into the conversation is just media sensationalism.

You really are embarrassing yourself now.

[MTVN]

Nah. Know why? Nobody jumped on the "black people > white people" comment. Although it was most likely said in jest, that's beside the point. Grimnir was likely trying to provoke a reaction and he received a very typical response.

Also lostalex, just know we all came from Africa once upon a time. Some of us just decided we were sick of living in mud huts and making a bajillion babies we were unable to feed.

Hohoho that'll get their mouths foaming.

It was certainly in jest, Scott being white and with his well known obsession with black women which I don't really get but each to their own.. having seen some of Grimnir's other posts in this section I have my doubts as to whether he was merely trying to provoke a reaction, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he meant every word. It was reminiscent of some 19th century attitude where people thought it was the white mans duty to "civilise" the heathens in Africa, and he was rebuffed for his post in the same way that the guy in this video was for his idea of exterminating white people.

[Pyramid*]

how many classifications do you think is fair?

I'll go for the British classifications. Seems a whole lot fairer than the one the Americans use - seems to lump the whole world into 4 types.

We are far more diverse than that.

[MTVN]

i never said it was. obviously they killed ******* and disableds and gays etc....

but people do describe anti-semitism as "racism" in the media and general culture quite regularly.

*******? Really? And lets not forget Gypsies, Poles, Russians, ethnic minorities etc. etc.

[lostalex]

You really are embarrassing yourself now.

ok, well you can dismiss me as much as you like. It doesn't bother me. I'm used to being dismissed. Unlike you, i don't buy into media stereotypes. It must make you very uncomfortable having to explain or even acknowledge your prejudices. I understand.

[Pyramid*]

It was certainly in jest, Scott being white and with his well known obsession with black women which I don't really get but each to their own.. having seen some of Grimnir's other posts in this section I have my doubts as to whether he was merely trying to provoke a reaction, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he meant every word. It was reminiscent of some 19th century attitude where people thought it was the white mans duty to "civilise" the heathens in Africa, and he was rebuffed for his post in the same way that the guy in this video was for his idea of exterminating white people.

Then surely such a comment does not belong in a Serious Debate - if it's all in jest?

[lostalex]

*******? Really? And lets not forget Gypsies, Poles, Russians, ethnic minorities etc. etc.

the list goes on.

[SoBig]

how many classifications do you think is fair?

More than what the US has for sure.

If anyone has some kind of known African ancestry they are labeled as black.
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Like seriously how is that guy BLACK? Because his great great grand father was black?

How is President Obama black, when his mother was white?

And the whole classifying people in one group because they come from a country that speaks Spanish. Is one of the most dumbest things I've ever heard in my life.

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Like how in the world are those 3 people in the same group? Because they come from a Spanish speaking country?

The US needs to get rid of the whole Hispanic classification.

[Pyramid*]

ok, well you can dismiss me as much as you like. It doesn't bother me. I'm used to being dismissed. Unlike you, i don't buy into media stereotypes. It must make you very uncomfortable having to explain or even acknowledge your prejudices. I understand.



I didn't dismiss you. I said you were embarrassing yourself.

You have no idea what I buy into, nor of my prejudices - if I have any, what they may be etc if at all..

I do however have a view on how some countrymen do their country a lot of injustice though, by displaying the characteristics which the very worst stereotypes are infamous for.

[lostalex]

More than what the US has for sure.

If anyone has some kind of known African ancestry they are labeled as black.


The US doesn't label them. they label themselves. All of those epople you just listed, i bet you can find plenty of white people that will point out their white ancestry. That was certainly an issue during the 2008 election. PLenty of epople pointed out that Barack Oabama is not only half black, but his half black side didn't even have any connection to black americans. He has no ancestry connec ted to black slavery at all, but the media tried to paint him as the "first black president"

Again, you have proven my point.

And in terms of how stupid it is that LAtino's try to segragate themselves as a separate race, i totally agree. there is no such thing as a "latino" race. there are people's of latin america of every colour creed and religion, so to try to identify as "latino" is ridiculous. you won't find an argument from me.

[SoBig]

yes, and so do most Americans... so how is it "racist" if an American hates a Mexican??? how is it racist if both are the same "race"?
Again, because most Americans are ignorant.

In the US you'll hear that Hispanic is a race. Jamaican is a race. Puerto Rican is a race. Domincans is a race etc.

My conclusion. Americans are ignorant.

[SoBig]

The US doesn't label them. they label themselves. All of those epople you just listed, i bet you can find plenty of white people that will point out their white ancestry. That was certainly an issue during the 2008 election. PLenty of epople pointed out that Barack Oabama is not only half black, but his half black side didn't even have any connection to black americans. He has no ancestry connec ted to black slavery at all, but the media tried to paint him as the "first black president"

Again, you have proven my point.
And you have proven my point that Americans are ignorant.

[lostalex]

Again, because most Americans are ignorant.

In the US you'll hear that Hispanic is a race. Jamaican is a race. Puerto Rican is a race. Domincans is a race etc.

My conclusion. Americans are ignorant.

American's are ignorant ,?? you must be joking. zfunny how i've never heard any American president talk about "spics" but i've heard plenty of latin american leaders talk about "gringos" so you need to correct yourself.

OIt's the Latino's that are segregating themselves, not American's forcing it on them.

Now who's looking ignorant?

[lostalex]

Again, because most Americans are ignorant.

In the US you'll hear that Hispanic is a race. Jamaican is a race. Puerto Rican is a race. Domincans is a race etc.

My conclusion. Americans are ignorant.

so clarify this for me, is this a RACIST statement, or not?? lol

[SoBig]

so clarify this for me, is this a RACIST statement, or not?? lol
American is a race now?

[lostalex]

American is a race now?


well if "mexican" or "puerto rican" is than so is "American". no???

or are you just deciding to abandon all logic??

[Pyramid*]

The US doesn't label them. they label themselves. All of those epople you just listed, i bet you can find plenty of white people that will point out their white ancestry. That was certainly an issue during the 2008 election. PLenty of epople pointed out that Barack Oabama is not only half black, but his half black side didn't even have any connection to black americans. He has no ancestry connec ted to black slavery at all, but the media tried to paint him as the "first black president"

Again, you have proven my point.

The US doesn't label them..... the media tried to paint him as the first black president.

Make up your mind.

Going on your statement above regarding the various ethnic background / connections in Obama's genepool - why then were so many Americans themselves going absolutely mental about a man they describe as a black man becoming their president (and as I saw on several documentaries: not least one with Jamie Oliver in it) - unbelievably referring to Obama as a n*gger.

Their comments were nothing to do with his political suitablity - it was based on his genepool and skin colour.

[SoBig]

American's are ignorant ,?? you must be joking. zfunny how i've never heard any American president talk about "spics" but i've heard plenty of latin american leaders talk about "gringos" so you need to correct yourself.

OIt's the Latino's that are segregating themselves, not American's forcing it on them.

Now who's looking ignorant?
If the US had never put Hispanic on the census. Y'all wouldn't be having that problem.

[Pyramid*]

well if "mexican" or "puerto rican" is than so is "American". no???

or are you just deciding to abandon all logic??

If it works for you lostalex..... we may as well have a go.

[lostalex]

If the US had never put Hispanic on the census. Y'all wouldn't be having that problem.

The only reason it's on the census is because the LATINO LOBBY bully's forced them to put it on there. It's the LAtino's groups that want to segregate themselves, not the US government.

Educate yourself.

[SoBig]

well if "mexican" or "puerto rican" is than so is "American". no???

or are you just deciding to abandon all logic??
I swear to God you are so annoying.

When in the hell did I say Mexican and Puerto Rican are races?

A Puerto Rican is someone from Puerto Rico. Its a NATIONALITY.

There are white Ricans, black Ricans etc.

[lostalex]

If it works for you lostalex..... we may as well have a go.

once again, you make no sense but it sounds good, so just go with it dude. lol. This is a reality TV show forum, so i don't expect to be dealing with intellectual equals. I guess that's part of the fun.

[lostalex]

I swear to God you are so annoying.

When in the hell did I say Mexican and Puerto Rican are races?

A Puerto Rican is someone from Puerto Rico. Its a NATIONALITY.

There are white Ricans, black Ricans etc.

Then why are you arguing with me? I made that point 40 minutes ago. so are you just arguing for the sake of arguments sake??

You are AGREEING with me then.

Please quote me when i ever said "hispanic" or "latino" was a race. You're the one saying that it is. and if Hispanic or "latino" is a race, than so is "American"

[Pyramid*]

once again, you make no sense but it sounds good, so just go with it dude. lol. This is a reality TV show forum, so i don't expect to be dealing with intellectual equals. I guess that's part of the fun.

Just as well for you, seeing as most of us on this side of the pond managed to actually evolve.

Some on the other side of the pond weren't so fortunate.

[SoBig]

The only reason it's on the census is because the LATINO LOBBY bully's forced them to put it on there. It's the LAtino's groups that want to segregate themselves, not the US government.

Educate yourself.
Its Americans that started calling them Latinos and Hispanics. They didn't come up with that classification themselves. IIRC y'all used to call them "Spanish people". Never mind that Spanish people are actually people from Spain.

Its not the first time y'all used someones else's name to refer to another group of people. Like calling the Native Americans, Indians. Its crazy that y'all still continue to do that. When Christopher Columbus went to the Americas, he thought he reached India. So he called the Native people Indians, but its been hundreds of years since that. Everyone knows that it was a mistake. So why are you people still calling them Indians? Indians are people from India.

[lostalex]

Its Americans that started calling them Latinos and Hispanics. They didn't come up with that classification themselves. IIRC y'all used to call them "Spanish people". Never mind that Spanish people are actually people from Spain.

Its not the first time y'all used someones else's name to refer to another group of people. Like calling the Native Americans, Indians. Its crazy that y'all still continue to do that. When Christopher Columbus went to Americas, he thought he reached India. So he called the Native people Indians, but its been hundreds of years since that. Everyone knows that it was a mistake. So why are you people still calling them Indians? Indians are people from India.

you're an idiot. indians as refered to about native americans aplied to canada and mexico and all parts of the America's.. and AMERICANS didn't invent the word "indian's" for the natives, EUROPEANS did, so wtf are you taliing about??

I love how America get's the blame for the death of natives, and slavery, when it was EUROPEANS that did it, not Americans. Follow the money.

You really are so uneducated and ill-informed. It's pointless to talk to you if you don't even know the basics of history.

[SoBig]

you're an idiot. indians as refered to about native americans aplied to canada and mexico and all parts of the America's.. and AMERICANS didn't invent the word "indian's" for the natives, EUROPEANS did, so wtf are you taliing about??

I love how America get's the blame for the death of natives, and slavery, when it was EUROPEANS that did it, not Americans. Follow the money.

You really are so uneducated and ill-informed. It's pointless to talk to you if you don't even know the basics of history.

So you are telling me Americans don't call them Indians? I know the Europeans started it, but its the Americans that continued the thread. In Canada, Caribbean and in Mexico they don't call them that anymore.

[Pyramid*]

you're an idiot. indians as refered to about native americans aplied to canada and mexico and all parts of the America's.. and AMERICANS didn't invent the word "indian's" for the natives, EUROPEANS did, so wtf are you taliing about??

I love how America get's the blame for the death of natives, and slavery, when it was EUROPEANS that did it, not Americans. Follow the money.

You really are so uneducated and ill-informed. It's pointless to talk to you if you don't even know the basics of history.



Now what was that you mentioned earlier lostalex, about intellectual equals, and now you are going on about people being so 'uneducated'. :wink:

As for the basics on history, I think you've shown time and time again, that you actually know very little on that subject matter.

[Marsh.]

The irony of the man in that original video, was he was standing there speaking English. lol

[Vicky.]

Some black people get a pass, because of the history. The whole slavery thing was kind of a big deal. Plus the whole segregation thing that existed just 40 years ago.

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words :laugh: )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin :bored:

[SoBig]

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words :laugh: )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin :bored:
No, I agree with you completely.

[Pyramid*]

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words :laugh: )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin :bored:

Just about sums it up nicely.

[Marsh.]

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words :laugh: )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin :bored:

Exactly, why should we all be judged or given rights to anything based on the actions of our ancestors.

But, I've only just realised this is another thread turned into a USA vs Rest of the World thread with lostalex. lol

[letmein]

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

You deserve to be banned.

This thread needs to be locked. It was done to flame bait.

[letmein]

The irony of the man in that original video, was he was standing there speaking English. lol

How so? Do you know where English derives from, hon?

[letmein]

there are not concrete nationalities, ethnicities or races. sorry, but it's just false.

Jersey Shore? are they Italian? are they White? are they American?

It's all stupid choices to segregate yourself.

If you believe you have a race than you are voluntarily participating in segregation.

So, what are we suppose to put on a census form?

[letmein]

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

Latinos are categorized by the US government with blacks, Asians, Natives, etc. That's where the confusion lies.

I've never heard Jews claim "racism". I've heard "antisemitism", even though Semites are Arab.

[SoBig]

You deserve to be banned.

This thread needs to be locked. It was done to flame bait.

I agree with you. He should receive a permanent ban. I'm surprised he wasn't even suspended.

[lime]

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.
WTF
This is the second time I have seen post crap about SA.The last time you claimed we all spoke English.Have you heard our national anthem.??
Take some of your own advice and educate yourself.
Not all South Africans are black.When A South African kills a Zimbawean its called murder not racism.

[SoBig]

lostalex is a joke of a poster. I don't even know why I even bother responding to any of his posts.

[Pyramid*]

WTF
This is the second time I have seen post crap about SA.The last time you claimed we all spoke English.Have you heard our national anthem.??
Take some of your own advice and educate yourself.
Not all South Africans are black.

When A South African kills a Zimbawean its called murder not racism .

Who do you think you are to bring some intellect / common sense to this thread. How very DARE you. :nono:


:D

ps.... when I read his post on this one, I too thought back to the 'SA speak English' convo that we had not too long ago. Some people never learn eh!

[Shasown]

I love this forum, intellectual arguments between equals, and arguments between numpties. And everything in between.

I suppose it would help if cultural differences and the understanding of the terms "racist, racism" etc, were taken into account.

There are a wide variety of definitions of the term racist for example, the UK legal definition, the UK socio-political definition, the term as understood by the general populace, the UN's definition of the word, thats without taking into account the definition of the terms held in other countries/areas.

We should also bear in mind that usage of a word evolves particularly in modern climes with the introduction of the internet and rapid international communication media.

But going back to the OP's original question, yes the man is racist but probably not the most racist person on earth.

[Marsh.]

How so? Do you know where English derives from, hon?

The main components of the language are from Anglo saxon, French, Latin and Ancient Greek.....hon.

[lostalex]

lostalex is a joke of a poster. I don't even know why I even bother responding to any of his posts.

Well do me a favour then, and DON'T respond, because, believe me i have just as little respect for you, my dear.

I've never seen you post anything even remotley insightful or interesting, you seem to just be reactionary and frankly i wouldn't be surprised to find you that you are a 13 y/o girl. You seem like the kind of person that actually VOTES on x-factor.

Everything i've said i've backed up with actual cultural experience and reason and logic. unlike you. You are the one trolling threads just casting judgements on people instead of actually debating ideas.

Please try to keep score, because yur LOSING.

[SoBig]

:laugh3:

[lostalex]

:laugh3:

again you have nothing of substance to say, just a cartoon....

[SoBig]

again you have nothing of substance to say, just a cartoon....
Actually I'm still waiting for you to respond to this post.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4805305&postcount=99

[lostalex]

So you are telling me Americans don't call them Indians? I know the Europeans started it, but its the Americans that continued the thread. In Canada, Caribbean and in Mexico they don't call them that anymore.

Canada the government might not call them that, but i guess you never bothered to research what those peoples actually call themselves, did you?


Actually, in reference to the natives in all of those countries: There are plenty of communities that do in fact still call themselve's "indians" just because the governments don't.... well, it guess you've decided that you'd rather believe those governments rather than the actual PEOPLES that we are talking about.

That says a lot about you.

[lostalex]

Actually I'm still waiting for you to respond to this post.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4805305&postcount=99

It's interesting that you've targeted me specifically, and somehow you think our conversations in this thread some how have any relevance at all to other threads. I respond to threads, and topics, not to people. I'd recommend you do the same from now on. I've never made this personal, and the fact that you are targeting me over multiple threads, is totally unacceptable.

Each thread is completely separate. What i say in this thread has nothing to to do with any other thread.


That being said, I've responded to the thread you highlighted.

In the future, if you'd like me to reply to one of your comments, please ask me in PM and i'll get back to you.

Frankly it's obscene and rude to request my comments in the public forum. That's why we have PM's. Get some class.

[Pyramid*]

Post Number 98 on this thread
you're an idiot. indians as refered to about native americans aplied to canada and mexico and all parts of the America's.. and AMERICANS didn't invent the word "indian's" for the natives, EUROPEANS did, so wtf are you taliing about??

I love how America get's the blame for the death of natives, and slavery, when it was EUROPEANS that did it, not Americans. Follow the money.

You really are so uneducated and ill-informed. It's pointless to talk to you if you don't even know the basics of history.


Post Number 99 on this thread
So you are telling me Americans don't call them Indians? I know the Europeans started it, but its the Americans that continued the thread. In Canada, Caribbean and in Mexico they don't call them that anymore.


Actually I'm still waiting for you to respond to this post.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4805305&postcount=99

It's interesting that you've targeted me specifically, and somehow you think our conversations in this thread some how have any relevance at all to other threads. I respond to threads, and topics, not to people. I'd recommend you do the same from now on. I've never made this personal, and the fact that you are targeting me over multiple threads, is totally unacceptable.

Each thread is completely separate. What i say in this thread has nothing to to do with any other thread.


That being said, I've responded to the thread you highlighted.

In the future, if you'd like me to reply to one of your comments, please ask me in PM and i'll get back to you.

Frankly it's obscene and rude to request my comments in the public forum. That's why we have PM's. Get some class.

I've tried to make this as simple as humanely possible lostalex since I have no clue where or how you seem to think you are being targetted, or that Sobig is referring to topics from other threads, or how their last comment to you can EVER be construed as being rude or obscene.

See post 98 above. Your comment from this thread. Inclusive of your own insults and derogatory comments towards other fms here.

See Post 99 above. SoBig's reply to your comment: ie: post 98.

You didn't reply to that post, or the question that SoBig asked -hence why they have reminded you by the use of one sentence that they were still awaiting a response.

You have been the one in dialogue back and forth with Sobig and other fms here, on a topic contained within this very thread, since those post numbers quoted above: and you have, in just about every post, either been rude, or have insulted them - including referring to them as trolling in your own post number 116:-

You are the one trolling threads just casting judgements on people instead of actually debating ideas.


They are not targetting you, they are simply asking if you would address a question that they posed to you earlier, on a subject you were discussing with them, that you have not responded to.

Your latest reply is bizarre to say the very least, not least your denial as to you having not made things personal.

You have done so, and repeatedly with the insults I've highlighted above. If anyone should be requesting this be taken off to PM, it would be Sobig, and not you, as it is you who is the one insulting others at every given opportunity.

I agree with others who have intimated the same on here - this thread should be locked especially when in almost every post of yours, you use it as some shallow excuse to insult just about any forum member you care to, and appear to be allowed to do continue doing.

[InOne]

Edit: Nevermind

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

according to this one black people can't be racist. :joker:

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"black people can't be racist because we don't own sh8t...white people own everything..what the **** can we do to you.you have all the power." :joker:

"if the majority of the population are white people..y'all have to take the blame for everything....wh white why white people.....cause y'all own everything..." lol

Keep in mind his channel is kind of comedic so not sure if he's serious most of the time :conf:

[InOne]

You could've just thought it, not bumped it...