View Full Version : Teenage model, 16, killed herself under train 'after boy cancelled their cinema date'
arista
21-12-2011, 08:31 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/28/article-1381101-0BCA919000000578-214_634x902.jpg
'Devastating loss': Gabrielle Joseph dreamed
of a career as a fashion model and had begun putting together a portfolio
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076557/Model-Gabby-Joesph-16-killed-train-boy-cancelled-cinema-date.html#ixzz1h9jMM8MS
"Gabrielle was described as a ‘bubbly’ and ‘outgoing’ teenager with a busy life attending college and holding two part-time jobs, including one at the popular Hollister fashion store.
She had ambitions of being a top model, and on her own website wrote: ‘In order to be irreplaceable, one must always be different.’
Her father Terry described her as being ‘groggy and pale’ on the day of her death near her home in Briton Ferry, South Wales.
An inquest heard that she had been left ‘distressed’ by the text at 8.15pm last Easter Monday cancelling the date and that 75 minutes later she died from multiple injuries after she was hit by the train near her home."
This was in April
what a Utter Waste.
Education is needed.
I read about this yesterday..such a tragedy...a beautiful girl, you would have thought, so much to live for...
arista
21-12-2011, 08:34 AM
I read about this yesterday..such a tragedy...a beautiful girl, you would have thought, so much to live for...
Yes very much.
Callum
21-12-2011, 08:49 AM
Read this earlier, so sad. Such a waste of life and I suspect there was more going on to lead her to do this other than just the cancelling of a date, that was probably a catalyst. More needs to be done to prevent teenage suicides.
Drastic reason if you ask me, surely there is a hidden reason? This is just a silly title to draw attention to the news story
Drastic reason if you ask me, surely there is a hidden reason? This is just a silly title to draw attention to the news story
I read yesterday that she tended to deal with her problems on her own and in her own way...I would guess there is more to this story and her reasons, but it's very sad that she couldn't share her feelings with someone who could perhaps have helped her...nobody should feel that isolated
I read yesterday that she tended to deal with her problems on her own and in her own way...I would guess there is more to this story and her reasons, but it's very sad that she couldn't share her feelings with someone who could perhaps have helped her...nobody should feel that isolated
Yeah it's so sad. People are there for kids to speak to! They are just scared to go do it
arista
21-12-2011, 10:01 AM
Drastic reason if you ask me, surely there is a hidden reason? This is just a silly title to draw attention to the news story
Yes there must be a hidden reason
I am sure the Dad knows more?
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 10:05 AM
Tragic for her parents: and what a hell of a thing for the guy who cancelled the date to 'live with'.
Chucking yourself under a train for that reason - something isn't quite right here, doesn't add up....... we all know teen years can be a terrible time but it's well OTT a reaction / action to take for a date being called off.
Jordan.
21-12-2011, 10:06 AM
What a horrible waste. Why would anyone cancel a date with her? :suspect:
Niall
21-12-2011, 11:27 AM
That so sad. She was so pretty too. :sad: I agree with others too in that there must have been something else other then the cancellation of the date that caused her to throw herself under a train.
Sam:)
21-12-2011, 11:49 AM
I actually feel worse for the guy who cancelled the date.
He's going to have to live with this for the rest of his life, and most likely will never get over it. Alot of people in his hometown probably will label him a "killer" or something.
The girl actually sounds so selfish. She could have most guys (I would). She must have been quite unstable and depressed prior to this. Nobody in their normal mind kills themselves for this reason alone.
Vicky.
21-12-2011, 11:53 AM
I actually feel worse for the guy who cancelled the date.
He's going to have to live with this for the rest of his life, and most likely will never get over it. Alot of people in his hometown probably will label him a "killer" or something.
The girl actually sounds so selfish. She could have most guys (I would). She must have been quite unstable and depressed prior to this. Nobody in their normal mind kills themselves for this reason alone.
I agree 100% with this post :/
Poor guy
Beastie
21-12-2011, 11:57 AM
This would have been a catalyst. A "final straw" to something I would say.
Shaun
21-12-2011, 07:43 PM
Another disgustingly worded article from the Daily Mail with absolutely no regard for the grief and thoughts of the boy or her family. Shameful.
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 07:52 PM
Another disgustingly worded article from the Daily Mail with absolutely no regard for the grief and thoughts of the boy or her family. Shameful.
What is it precisely that you find so disgustingly worded about the article and why do you feel it is shameful.
In what other manner do you suggest that it should have been reported.
What do you think is wrong with it and why do you feel there is no regard for the grief and thoughts of those affected? :conf:
Mystic Mock
21-12-2011, 07:54 PM
What a horrible waste. Why would anyone cancel a date with her? :suspect:
I was thinking this.:joker:
Anyway its ashame for both the girl who clearly must have had something else going on in her life for this to have happened,and the boyfriend will probably never get over this,and especially now that The DailyMail have made it look like its his fault.
Jack_
21-12-2011, 07:56 PM
A real shame, but I feel more sorry for the boy who will have to live with the supposed guilt of this for the rest of his life, and in some ways I'm afraid it is selfish. But very sad nonetheless and things need to be done to try and prevent things like this happening, she was gorgeous as well.
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:01 PM
A real shame, but I feel more sorry for the boy who will have to live with the supposed guilt of this for the rest of his life, and in some ways I'm afraid it is selfish. But very sad nonetheless and things need to be done to try and prevent things like this happening, she was gorgeous as well.
I happen to agree pretty much with you on this one. It's a shi*tty thing to be left with for the lad in question.
Jack_
21-12-2011, 08:06 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/GabbyJoseph/status/57697567827427328
Haunting :(
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:12 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/GabbyJoseph/status/57697567827427328
Haunting :(
Not so sure about 'haunting'. Her tweets re Kenneth Tong are pretty disturbing.
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:12 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/GabbyJoseph/status/57697567827427328
Haunting :(
Not so sure about 'haunting'. Her tweets re Kenneth Tong are pretty disturbing.
lily.
21-12-2011, 08:13 PM
Another disgustingly worded article from the Daily Mail with absolutely no regard for the grief and thoughts of the boy or her family. Shameful.
It's typical of the DM to be honest. Their reporting style leaves a lot to be desired.
I'm pretty sure there's more to this story than the cancellation of a date. The girl must have had some deeper issues and this was possibly just the straw that broke the camel's back. There's a lot of pressure on models, especially at such a young age, so perhaps that was causing her stress.
But, since it's a half-arsed article, with little or no proper information, we really can't speculate further.
I personally object to those saying she was selfish though. Suicide is hardly selfish. A bit of understanding on the subject wouldn't go amiss here.
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:19 PM
It's typical of the DM to be honest. Their reporting style leaves a lot to be desired.
I'm pretty sure there's more to this story than the cancellation of a date. The girl must have had some deeper issues and this was possibly just the straw that broke the camel's back. There's a lot of pressure on models, especially at such a young age, so perhaps that was causing her stress.
But, since it's a half-arsed article, with little or no proper information, we really can't speculate further.
I personally object to those saying she was selfish though. Suicide is hardly selfish. A bit of understanding on the subject wouldn't go amiss here.
Suicide is selfish. It is also an extremely difficult choice to make, but that does not make it any less a selfish act.
This young tragic girl for example: gave no thought or understanding to the lifetime of pain, suffering and devastating loss she has now placed upon her family - never mind on the shoulders of an innocent young lad.
Shaun
21-12-2011, 08:22 PM
What is it precisely that you find so disgustingly worded about the article and why do you feel it is shameful.
In what other manner do you suggest that it should have been reported.
What do you think is wrong with it and why do you feel there is no regard for the grief and thoughts of those affected? :conf:
The title of it, clearly, for suggesting that it's the boy's fault that she's dead. I'd have thought that was obvious.
GypsyGoth
21-12-2011, 08:23 PM
:sad:
lily.
21-12-2011, 08:24 PM
Suicide is selfish. It is also an extremely difficult choice to make, but that does not make it any less a selfish act.
This young tragic girl for example: gave no thought or understanding to the lifetime of pain, suffering and devastating loss she has now placed upon her family - never mind on the shoulders of an innocent young lad.
Walk a mile in their shoes before you judge someone who is suicidal.
They give no thought or understanding to the lifetime of pain, suffering and devastating loss placed upon family because they have no clarity of thought. If they did, they wouldn't be suicidal.
I find it incredibly heartless and harsh to say someone is selfish when they are not of sound mind. It's like criticising a man with no legs because of his inability to run fast.
Vicky.
21-12-2011, 08:31 PM
A real shame, but I feel more sorry for the boy who will have to live with the supposed guilt of this for the rest of his life, and in some ways I'm afraid it is selfish. But very sad nonetheless and things need to be done to try and prevent things like this happening, she was gorgeous as well.
Like what?
Many people dont even show signs of feeling suicidal. The ones that DO tell people about it, are just attention seeking IMO...those who actually want to die wouldnt tell anyone incase they were stopped.
Yes this story reckons she was 'groggy and pale' on the day of her death...we cant assume everyone who is groggy is suicidal D:
Shaun
21-12-2011, 08:33 PM
-raises concerns about linda-
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:33 PM
Walk a mile in their shoes before you judge someone who is suicidal.
They give no thought or understanding to the lifetime of pain, suffering and devastating loss placed upon family because they have no clarity of thought. If they did, they wouldn't be suicidal.
I find it incredibly heartless and harsh to say someone is selfish when they are not of sound mind. It's like criticising a man with no legs because of his inability to run fast.
Yes. I have no notion of what any of that must feel like to be around people who either have committed suicide or attempt it every other month. None whatsoever.
Seems the only person making wrong judgments here and who wants to be walking in other people's shoes - is you - so many wrong assumptions you jump to.
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:35 PM
Like what?
Many people dont even show signs of feeling suicidal. The ones that DO tell people about it, are just attention seeking IMO...those who actually want to die wouldnt tell anyone incase they were stopped.
Yes this story reckons she was 'groggy and pale' on the day of her death...we cant assume everyone who is groggy is suicidal D:
That's an incredibly valid point. She spent some time on FB announcing it. Now.....I'd call that (hard, harsh but probably true)....very attention seeking.
Gabrielle Joseph, 16, told friends on Facebook: ‘I am going to kill myself tonight’ because she was so upset at being turned down for the date, due on the following night.
The young model died little more than an hour later.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076557/Gabrielle-Joseph-Model-Gabby-16-killed-train-cancelled-cinema-date.html#ixzz1hCiJ90GS
She could have been groggy and pale after a night on the bevvy - as she alludes to being drunk on twitter one night...... she could have been hungover and father simply had no idea.
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:39 PM
The title of it, clearly, for suggesting that it's the boy's fault that she's dead. I'd have thought that was obvious.
The title tells the the story - hence why it's called a headline.
It doesn't suggest he was at fault. It summarises the reason for her committing suicide: her choice, not his fault.
I'm not sure how you can read that as it being suggested it is the boy's fault?
Teenage model, 16, killed herself under train 'after boy cancelled their cinema date' by text message
Shaun
21-12-2011, 08:47 PM
Are you serious or just being pedantic again for the sake of raising an argument?
"after boy cancelled their cinema date" clearly indicates that this was the reason, summoned by the Daily Mail, that she killed herself. The article should merely report the suicide rather than make halfhearted suggestions as to her motives.
I know that if I read that and I was the boy involved I'd feel nothing but guilt, when he shouldn't do. Otherwise it's just an arbitrary piece of information about her day, it has no more validity or concern in the headline than "after eating slice of toast" would do
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:54 PM
Are you serious or just being pedantic again for the sake of raising an argument?
"after boy cancelled their cinema date" clearly indicates that this was the reason, summoned by the Daily Mail, that she killed herself. The article should merely report the suicide rather than make halfhearted suggestions as to her motives.
I know that if I read that and I was the boy involved I'd feel nothing but guilt, when he shouldn't do. Otherwise it's just an arbitrary piece of information about her day, it has no more validity or concern in the headline than "after eating slice of toast" would do
I'm being serious.
You said the article was disgustingly worded, shameful reporting et al.
When I asked why you thought it was:- from what you had said:-
Another disgustingly worded article from the Daily Mail with absolutely no regard for the grief and thoughts of the boy or her family. Shameful.
You replied, not detailing what in the article that you found off, but insteadk you said it was the title.
I've explained very clearly why I don't think the title suggests anything of the sort that the lad is to blame:although you may disagree with me, my explanation is an alternative viewpoint - there really is no need for you to get all shirty because I don't agree with you or vice versa. There are other opinions on here Shaun apart from your own.
Vicky.
21-12-2011, 08:55 PM
That's an incredibly valid point. She spent some time on FB announcing it. Now.....I'd call that (hard, harsh but probably true)....very attention seeking.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076557/Gabrielle-Joseph-Model-Gabby-16-killed-train-cancelled-cinema-date.html#ixzz1hCiJ90GS
She could have been groggy and pale after a night on the bevvy - as she alludes to being drunk on twitter one night...... she could have been hungover and father simply had no idea.
Hmm. I only read the bit of the story in the OP as I cant usually stand daily mail articles :/
This sort of blows my theory out of the water actually...
Pyramid*
21-12-2011, 08:59 PM
Hmm. I only read the bit of the story in the OP as I cant usually stand daily mail articles :/
This sort of blows my theory out of the water actually...
Not entirely. If she wanted to just go out and get it over and done with - why go onto FB to announce it - unless of course there was some attention seeking being done.
Horrid thing to say: but an entirely plausible twist is: beautifully attractive, go getter, popular young lass, has everything going for her, parents who spoil her (note comments on twitter re her mother going nuts at the cost of wetsuits), used to getting what she wants. Lad she fancies cancels a date: goes OTT - says she's going to do this - thinking it will make the lad change his mind (or better, come save her)...... and it didn't quite work out that way.
Benjamin
21-12-2011, 09:33 PM
Please calm it down in here.
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