Why is Frankie getting so much stick about being a non celeb!

[Beso]

He probably has the most well known face out of all of them.:conf:

[Livia]

Because he isn't a celebrity. And he isn't talented. He can't sing, He's famous for being a drug-addled drunk. Only those who read the tabloids and trash mags know him as anything more than someone who was chucked out of the XFactor. Most people couldn't pick him out of a small crowd if it wasn't for his ridiculous haircut.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I like Frankie

he is honest and has a hairport

[Beso]

Because he isn't a celebrity. And he isn't talented. He can't sing, He's famous for being a drug-addled drunk. Only those who read the tabloids and trash mags know him as anything more than someone who was chucked out of the XFactor. Most people couldn't pick him out of a small crowd if it wasn't for his ridiculous haircut.

Don't forget the millions of people who watched xfactor..I'm sure they will know him.

Anyway, what the hell merits a celeb status these days?..

[Pyramid*]

The clue might be in the fact that it is Celebrity Big Brother, and he is not a celebrity - along with several other non entities that are in there.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It depends on the definition of a celeb. If it is based on talent then I would not include soap actors as anyone could do that. Not sure if i would include madsen as he appears to just play himself in films.

The rugby guy has a talent, Denise is a good actor. No one else could really be called a celeb more just a well known face.

[Livia]

Don't forget the millions of people who watched xfactor..I'm sure they will know him.

Anyway, what the hell merits a celeb status these days?..

A career.

[Beso]

A career.

Maybe in the past, but now that point is well gone.

[LivT]

He made me chuckle during his admittance of fancying Denise. Lordy, she would eat him alive and spit the bones out for breakfast!!

I'm routing for him to redeem his bad boy persona, even a little..

[Livia]

Maybe in the past, but now that point is well gone.

Really? You think perhaps I'm living in a time warp? If it hadn't been for this show he'd have sunk without trace. I predict another few months of him in and out of rehab and he'll either be dead of forgotten.

[Beso]

Really? You think perhaps I'm living in a time warp? If it hadn't been for this show he'd have sunk without trace. I predict another few months of him in and out of rehab and he'll either be dead of forgotten.

I just think celeb has a whole new meaning these days compared to the good old days.

[Pyramid*]

A career.

Would you mind terribly if I expanded on that just a little - and added to that: a worthy & credible career, being known for having real talent.

Much obliged to you.

[Me. I Am Salman]

He's more of a celeb than Bobby Sabel at least

[Beso]

Would you mind terribly if I expanded on that just a little - and added to that: a worthy & credible career, being known for having real talent.

Much obliged to you.

My point is that that doesn't constitute being a celeb these days.Heck you only have had to appear on bb to be described as one nowadays.

[Livia]

I just think celeb has a whole new meaning these days compared to the good old days.

How old do you think I am? And how far back do you think the "good old days" were?

Let's just say we'll see how famous Frankie is this time next year, okay?

[Livia]

He's more of a celeb than Bobby Sabel at least

I can't argue with that. Although being well known isn't the same as being a celebrity. Fred West was well known. I wouldn't call him a celebrity.

[Beso]

How old do you think I am? And how far back do you think the "good old days" were?

Let's just say we'll see how famous Frankie is this time next year, okay?

41...the 80's..and put his picture up in a mall and 8/10 people will be able to give you his name this time next year.

[Livia]

41...the 80's..and put his picture up in a mall and 8/10 people will be able to give you his name this time next year.

See? You're WAAAAAY off the mark. You shouldn't generalise, it makes you look shallow.

Put his picture up in a mall and I doubt 8/10 people could name him this year. Put him up in a school and I bet everyone would know him.

[Beso]

I wasn't generalising..you asked me a question....I just answered it.

Maybe you shouldn't ask a question if you don't want the answer, it makes you look like your fishing for compliments.

[chuff me dizzy]

I hate to admit it, but Im quite liking him in the house, not as bad as I was expecting him to be

[Livia]

I wasn't generalising..you asked me a question....I just answered it.

And you were wrong.

[fruit_cake]

I hate to admit it, but Im quite liking him in the house, not as bad as I was expecting him to be

he seems a bit overawed by it all to me

[Beso]

And you were wrong.

And!! Are you correct all the time?

[Pyramid*]

My point is that that doesn't constitute being a celeb these days.Heck you only have had to appear on bb to be described as one nowadays.

I agree with your post above, though that's not quite how you seemed to be putting it over on your OP - that sounded a wee bit like you were defending his right to be on the show because of the limited talent - and in his case, being devoid of talent / career entirely - because he has a well 'kent' face.

[Beso]

I agree with your post above, though that's not quite how you seemed to be putting it over on your OP - that sounded a wee bit like you were defending his right to be on the show because of the limited talent - and in his case, being devoid of talent / career entirely - because he has a well 'kent' face.


He has an interesting story, someone who I want to know more of, not just the stuff we are fed in the press. So I will defend his right to be in their for being someone in the news who's character I want to delve deeper into.

[chuff me dizzy]

he seems a bit overawed by it all to me

Yes, hes shocked me

[Pyramid*]

41...the 80's..and put his picture up in a mall and 8/10 people will be able to give you his name this time next year.

Put up a picture in a mall of Fred West and I bet 10/10 know who he is - and a celebrity he is not.

Edit; damn. Livia got there before me. *sobs*

[Livia]

And!! Are you correct all the time?

No, of course not. But I am in this case.

[Beso]

No, of course not. But I am in this case.

If you check the dictionary for what celebrity means you will see it means someone who is famous...frankie cocozzo is.therefore he can be referred to as a celeb.:spin:

[chuff me dizzy]

hes more of a celeb than the twins,Georgia,Natasha,,i only knew ,Natalie,Denise (:devil: ) Nicola (:devil:) Andrew,Frankie ,when they went in ,never even heard of the others

[Pyramid*]

He has an interesting story, someone who I want to know more of, not just the stuff we are fed in the press. So I will defend his right to be in their for being someone in the news who's character I want to delve deeper into.

But as you said yourself - that does not make him a celebrity does it. It makes him known - not a celeb - therefore he should not be in CBB.

That's my tup'nees worth and I stand by it.

A well kent face is not the same as a celebrity. Most people understand the difference.

[Livia]

hes more of a celeb than the twins,Georgia,Natasha,,i only knew ,Natalie,Denise (:devil: ) Nicola (:devil:) Andrew,Frankie ,when they went in ,never even heard of the others

He's not more of a celebrity. He's just in the company of a lot of other non-entities.

[Beso]

check the dictionary pyramid.

[chuff me dizzy]

He's not more of a celebrity. He's just in the company of a lot of other non-entities.

Youve got up in an argumentative mood today i see

[chuff me dizzy]

But as you said yourself - that does not make him a celebrity does it. It makes him known - not a celeb - therefore he should not be in CBB.

That's my tup'nees worth and I stand by it.

A well kent face is not the same as a celebrity. Most people understand the difference.

I agree with Pete Burns( I think it was him ) on bit on the side last night , how does it look to youngsters, he got kicked off of X factor for drugs, then straight into CBB as a celeb

[Glenn.]

Frankie is a talentless puddle of spunk :bored:

[Pyramid*]

check the dictionary pyramid.

Best you check yours first before finding fault with my descriptions or interpretations eh....seeing as you have stated your good self in your thread title: 'Why is Frankie getting so much stick about being a non-celeb'.

:joker:

[Pyramid*]

I agree with Pete Burns( I think it was him ) on bit on the side last night , how does it look to youngsters, he got kicked off of X factor for drugs, then straight into CBB as a celeb

And Pete was right. At least Pete had a career to enable him to be well known, have talent & be regarded as a celeb.

[Beso]

Best you check yours first before finding fault with my descriptions or interpretations eh....seeing as you have stated your good self in your thread title: 'Why is Frankie getting so much stick about being a non-celeb'.

:joker:

I know what I meant...maybe it should have been for being instead of being a.:spin:

[Beso]

And Pete was right. At least Pete had a career to enable him to be well known, have talent & be regarded as a celeb.

He's more known now for looking like a complete tit though.

[Ammi]

..as the great Michael Madsen said CBB is becoming rehab without doctors..Katona, Cocainzza..by the time they go into the house they've got nothing left to give

[Pyramid*]

I know what I meant...maybe it should have been for being instead of being a.:spin:

You stated he was a non celeb yourself. Glad you proved your own self wrong. :spin:

[Pyramid*]

He's more known now for looking like a complete tit though.

And Frankie boy isn't........ :tongue:

[Beso]

And Frankie boy isn't........ :tongue:

:joker:No. Maybe for being a, but not looking like.

[thesheriff443]

since the birth of youtube,stick up a video and you can call yourself famous! or others can call you famous,reallity tv,we love to hate it!.

[Rawrbear]

Erm, I think he was a celebrity when on xfactor but towards big brother became a non-celeb, but what the hell i like his his hair i don't mind that he is on

[Pyramid*]

:joker:No. Maybe for being a, but not looking like.

Oh he looks like a tit, make no mistake about that.

[thesheriff443]

i think its better to have two small tits,than one big one,lol

[spitfire]

At least Pete had a career
Which lasted all of one song.

[Pyramid*]

Which lasted all of one song.

Still getting plenty of dosh in royalties from it though, still riding on that crest of the wave.

[fruit_cake]

i think its better to have two small tits,than one big one,lol

:laugh2:

[spitfire]

Still getting plenty of dosh in royalties from it though, still riding on that crest of the wave.

You think that song still sells?

[Samuel.]

Who cares?

Last years best housemate wasn't even famous, let alone a celebrity.

Who they are in the house is a lot more meaningful.

[chuff me dizzy]

..as the great Michael Madsen said CBB is becoming rehab without doctors..Katona, Cocainzza..by the time they go into the house they've got nothing left to give

I had never heard of Micheal until Thursday night :conf:

[Pyramid*]

You think that song still sells?

Nope and that's not what I was suggesting. I referred to royalties from it.

[Niamh.]

That's a fair point, he may not be famous for any amazing talents (but lets be honest how many of them in there are?) but he's certainly current and was known by them all instantly (bar the Americans)

[Harry!]

Well known? More like punchable.

[pixee]

Because he isn't a celebrity. And he isn't talented. He can't sing, He's famous for being a drug-addled drunk. Only those who read the tabloids and trash mags know him as anything more than someone who was chucked out of the XFactor. Most people couldn't pick him out of a small crowd if it wasn't for his ridiculous haircut.

That about covers it.

Tbh though I can see him winning because of the fall and rise type story that sells to people. Surely we can't just keep kicking him even though it is fun.

[Vicky.]

Dunno. I would say hes more famous than the playboy twins and georgia, definitely. I didnt know who the essex lad was either...and no-one will besides those who watch TOWIE(which is watched by a lot less people than TXF)

I also dont know who the rugby bloke is..but I dont watch sport so he may well be very famous amongst those who do.

And I dont really class those who shag about to get their names in the papers as 'celebs'...nor WAGS 'famous' for getting their knockers out

So overall, I have no idea why frankie is getting so much crap for not being a celeb, while there are many others who should be getting the same grief but arent :)

[Kazanne]

I am quite warming to Frankie,he is no more a no mark than many others in there,infact there are only 3 in there that i would deem as celebs,Denise,Michael,Natalie are known to me,never heard of the others except that Nicola woman who I only know as a nasty biatch!!not heard of any of those other wannabees,If sleeping with your brother in law makes you a celeb then Frankie is just as entitalled to be there,he loves girls!!!! whoopee do don't most 18 year olds?Yes he is silly taking drugs etc,but that is up to him,I feel sorry for him he gets an unfair rap,I hope he does well in this,not sure at this stage who i want to win,but i am liking Denise a lot.

[Marc]

Because he isn't a celebrity. And he isn't talented. He can't sing, He's famous for being a drug-addled drunk. Only those who read the tabloids and trash mags know him as anything more than someone who was chucked out of the XFactor. Most people couldn't pick him out of a small crowd if it wasn't for his ridiculous haircut.

:worship:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I dont think celebrity doesnt mean having talent anymore.

What merits celebrity status is being in the tabloids, being papped and being recognised on the street aka being famous.

He is famous, wether celebrity and being famous mean the same thing today is something everyone is confused with.

Do people forget this lad took part in the biggest show (The X Factor) in the country? :/