SAUDI women with attractive eyes may be forced to cover them up

[_Seth]

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/11/18/1226198/578414-20111118burqa.jpg

SAUDI women with attractive eyes may be forced to cover them up, the news website Bikya Masr reported, in a move that could mark the latest repressive measure taken against women by the Islamic state.

A spokesperson for Saudi Arabia's Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV), Sheikh Motlab al Nabet, said the committee had the right to stop women revealing "tempting" eyes in public.

Women in Saudi Arabia already have to cover their hair, and, in some regions, their faces while in public. If they do not, they face punishments including fines and public floggings.

The CPVPV has repeatedly been accused of human rights violations. Founded in 1940, its function is to ensure Islamic laws are not broken in public in Saudi Arabia.

In 2002 the committee refused to allow female students out of a burning school in Mecca because they were not wearing correct head cover, report said.

The decision contributed to the high death toll of 15 people who were killed in the fire.

http://www.news.com.au/world/saudi-women-with-sexy-eyes-may-be-forced-to-cover-them-up/story-e6frfkyi-1226198481241#ixzz1e0fcFqS9

What da ****? And the last two sentences... that country is majorly ****ed up. Monsters! =/

[GypsyGoth]

Saudi Arabia is run by scumbags. Countries should stop buying oil off of them.

[Omah]

What da ****? That "story" is TWO MONTHS old ..... :bored:

[Stu]

That is one pimping burka in fairness.

[MTVN]

Females aren't even allowed to drive in that country, they beheaded a woman for "sorcery" last month, this doesn't come as a big shock tbh

[_Seth]

What da ****? That "story" is TWO MONTHS old ..... :bored:

Big ****ing wow, who cares. :conf:

[Marc]

Saudi Arabia is run by scumbags. Countries should stop buying oil off of them.

This.

[Omah]

Big ****ing wow, who cares. :conf:

The source is suspect and barely credible, too ..... :idc:

[_Seth]

There are multiple sources on the same thing, honey.

[Omah]

There are multiple sources on the same thing, honey.

All repeating the same "story" - many are merely blogs ..... :hmph:

[_Seth]

All repeating the same "story" - many are merely blogs ..... :yawn:

I dunno why you're so cynical. tbh it's a very ****ed up country so I wouldn't put it past the *******.

[Omah]

I dunno why you're so cynical. tbh it's a very ****ed up country so I wouldn't put it past the *******.

I'm not questioning the state of the country, just the credibility of the "story" - if you google "saudi women drivers", credible reports from the BBC, Guardian, Telegraph and Independent are presented - News.com seems to specialise in "WTF: Weird True Freaky" (http://www.news.com.au/weird-true-freaky) ..... :suspect:

[InOne]

http://www.getreligion.org/wp-content/photos/2009/09/Why-I-Am-Not-A-Muslim-cover.jpg

[Mystic Mock]

Wtf? how are they suppose to see?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

they should just wear these

http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/scary-ipod-jacket-photo.jpg

[spitfire]

There country, there rules and there laws. Nothing to do with us. Lets keep our noses out just like we excpect other countries to keep there nose's out of our business.

[arista]

Wtf? how are they suppose to see?


They have a Mesh she can look through,
Its a Strict Musilm Nation - Not DisneyLand

[arista]

There country, there rules and there laws. Nothing to do with us. Lets keep our noses out just like we excpect other countries to keep there nose's out of our business.

Very True

[lostalex]

Females aren't even allowed to drive in that country, they beheaded a woman for "sorcery" last month, this doesn't come as a big shock tbh

Well Italy convicted Amanda Knox because she supossedly performed Satanic sex rituals, so let's not act like "civilized western countries" don't also have wacky courts.

[fruit_cake]

don't the Saudi royal family own like half of America or something?

[MTVN]

Well Italy convicted Amanda Knox because she supossedly performed Satanic sex rituals, so let's not act like "civilized western countries" don't also have wacky courts.

I didn't say anything about them not being "civilised" or make any comparison with the West, it's just a fact that Saudi Arabia isn't exactly a great proponent of women's rights

[_Seth]

They have a Mesh she can look through,
Its a Strict Musilm Nation - Not DisneyLand

What, so any nation that doesn't push kids back into a burning school because they're not wearing the correct outfit is disneyland?

[Jesus.]

Arab building sites:

"Oi darling, show us your face".

[Crimson Dynamo]

they probably think an ipad is a sexy tampon

[lostalex]

don't the Saudi royal family own like half of America or something?

no.

[Jesus.]

Well Italy convicted Amanda Knox because she supossedly performed Satanic sex rituals, so let's not act like "civilized western countries" don't also have wacky courts.

Was she imprisoned for the Satan sex bit, or the fact that they thought she was a murderer?

[lostalex]

Was she imprisoned for the Satan sex bit, or the fact that they thought she was a murderer?

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

[Jesus.]

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

What a horribly inaccurate thing to say. She was prosecuted for a murder, resulting from Satanic sex games/rituals. Now that only decrees that Knox, herself, was guilty of being interested in the Satanic rituals, not that she was being treated as a modern day with. Being a witch is not a criminal offence (to my knowledge), but murdering another person is.

Claiming that Europe thinks of Americans today, the way that the Nazi's thought of Jews during the holocaust, is offensive to just about everyone apart from Americans, and I would hope Americans on here would think that would be a wholly inappropriate comparison too.

[Niamh.]

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

I haven't really been following the case much but I thought it was because of her and her b/fs fingerprints found on her under wear and also on a brush in her b/fs flat? Also, wasn't their alibis abit dodgy?

[lostalex]

I haven't really been following the case much but I thought it was because of her and her b/fs fingerprints found on her under wear and also on a brush in her b/fs flat? Also, wasn't their alibis abit dodgy?

There were ZERO finger prints found from Amanda. There were a million finger prints found from the other person accused though, the african Rudee Guede, who also had been accused of knife crimes before,. BUt instead of focusing on him, they chose to focus on Amanda, who had no finger prints at all, and there was no forensic evidence at all, but they convicted her because they accused her of being a satanic WITCH.

It was literally a witch hunt, on Americans. "those cocky americans, they must be evil, so Amanda must be evil" it was literally no different than the Salem Witch Trials. It showed the true face of Europe.

Ohh, she's American and pretty, so she MUST be EVIL.

[Niamh.]

There were ZERO finger prints found from Amanda. There were a million finger prints found from the other person accused though, the african Rudee Guede, who also had been accused of knife crimes before,. BUt instead of focusing on him, they chose to focus on Amanda, who had no finger prints at all, and there was no forensic evidence at all, but they convicted her because they accused her of being a satanic WITCH.

It was literally a witch hunt, on Americans. "those cocky americans, they must be evil, so Amanda must be evil" it was literally no different than the Salem Witch Trials. It showed the true face of Europe.

Ohh, she's American and pretty, so she MUST be EVIL.

I doubt that was the case Alex.

[lostalex]

I doubt that was the case Alex.
ok, then explain why she was convicted then???

i'm open to hearing your point of view. (bear in mind that she was later aquitted because there was no forensic evidence against her.... but i can't wait to hear your theory as to why she was convicted in the first place)

She has been proven innocent now, but i really wanna hear your theory as to why she was convicted first??

[Jesus.]

There were ZERO finger prints found from Amanda. There were a million finger prints found from the other person accused though, the african Rudee Guede, who also had been accused of knife crimes before,. BUt instead of focusing on him, they chose to focus on Amanda, who had no finger prints at all, and there was no forensic evidence at all, but they convicted her because they accused her of being a satanic WITCH.

It was literally a witch hunt, on Americans. "those cocky americans, they must be evil, so Amanda must be evil" it was literally no different than the Salem Witch Trials. It showed the true face of Europe.

Ohh, she's American and pretty, so she MUST be EVIL.

Persecution complex. May I ask which part of America you are from?

[lostalex]

Persecution complex. May I ask which part of America you are from?

I've lived all over. New York, Washington DC, Virginia, Los Angeles, Santa Cruz, Montana... why? What possible relevance does where i live in America have to my statements??
Oh maybe you think i'm some ignorant conservative republican? because you think all American's that disagree with you must be rednecks right??

Sorry, i'm not a redneck. Thank you for proving my point though.

[Niamh.]

ok, then explain why she was convicted then???

i'm open to hearing your point of view. (bear in mind that she was later aquitted because there was no forensic evidence against her.... but i can't wait to hear your theory as to why she was convicted in the first place)

She has been proven innocent now, but i really wanna hear your theory as to why she was convicted first??

Well, as I said I haven't really been following the case. The only thing I read about it was this :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8803077/Amanda-Knox-Guilty-or-innocent-five-reasons-why.html

and to me the 5 reasons why she is guilty seem more likely then the ones for why she is innocent.

[Jesus.]

ok, then explain why she was convicted then???

i'm open to hearing your point of view. (bear in mind that she was later aquitted because there was no forensic evidence against her.... but i can't wait to hear your theory as to why she was convicted in the first place)

She has been proven innocent now, but i really wanna hear your theory as to why she was convicted first??

She was (wrongly) convicted of murder, not of witchcraft. People are wrongly convicted of all manner of crimes, all the time.

Some of the most heinous miscarriages of justice involve the USA. I see Haley Barbour has just released a load of convicted murders - just because he can.

Don't confuse Amanda Knox with Christine O'connell.

It's not only crazy old Europe that has witchcraft issues.

uxJyPsmEask

[lostalex]

Well, as I said I haven't really been following the case. The only thing I read about it was this :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8803077/Amanda-Knox-Guilty-or-innocent-five-reasons-why.html

and to me the 5 reasons why she is guilty seem more likely then the ones for why she is innocent.

So you think she was guilty? name one piece of evidence she was guilty please. She was eventually aquitted because there is not a single shred of evidence against her.

If you have evidence against her, i'd like to hear it, and you should tell it to the italian courts, cause they couldn't find any evidence against her eigther.

[lostalex]

She was (wrongly) convicted of murder, not of witchcraft. People are wrongly convicted of all manner of crimes, all the time.

Some of the most heinous miscarriages of justice involve the USA. I see Haley Barbour has just released a load of convicted murders - just because he can.

Don't confuse Amanda Knox with Christine O'connell.

It's not only crazy old Europe that has witchcraft issues.

uxJyPsmEask

i never said it was only Europe, i brought it up because people were acting like it was shocking that Africans and MIddle easterns use witchcraft against people, when actually it still happens in Europe too. Did you forget what this thread is about? if you forget, read though the past posts please, you seem to be confused.

[Jesus.]

I've lived all over. New York, Washington DC, Virginia, Los Angeles, Santa Cruz, Montana... why? What possible relevance does where i live in America have to my statements??
Oh maybe you think i'm some ignorant conservative republican? because you think all American's that disagree with you must be rednecks right??

Sorry, i'm not a redneck. Thank you for proving my point though.

I was just curious. I thought you may be a republican, yes, but that's solely because of some historical inaccuracy's you've spouted, and coincides with the republican persecution complex of us godless, librul, socialist, Nazi's over here in Europe.

I love American politics, and I remember the health care debates when Europe was being slagged off and lied about every day in tea party events and on your so-called news channels.

There is no united hatred of America in Europe, just like there isn't a total hatred of Europe in America.

[Jesus.]

i never said it was only Europe, i brought it up because people were acting like it was shocking that Africans and MIddle easterns use witchcraft against people, when actually it still happens in Europe too. Did you forget what this thread is about? if you forget, read though the past posts please, you seem to be confused.

You brought up Amanda Knox. Let me state this once again, just to try and make it clear for you. Amanda Knox was convicted (wrongly) of murder. She was not, and I repeat, not, convicted of witchcraft.

The key part of this story is the fact someone died.

[MTVN]

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

Are you seriously arguing that the widespread persecution of Jews, the genocide of 6 million of them, was less of an injustice than Amanda Knox's conviction?

[Shasown]

WTF does supposed anti American sentiments in Italy have to do with Saudi Women being forced to cover attractive eyes?

Get back on topic or get off the thread.

Alex could I ask a favour in that you stop hijacking threads to further your own Anti European Pro American agendas?

[Vicky.]

Yet another thread turned into an america v the world thing. Getting ****ing sick and tired of this recently.

As for the original topic, how ridiculous. And who on earth can judge if someones eyes are attractive or not...whats attractive to one wont be attractive to another etc etc

[Jesus.]

Yet another thread turned into an america v the world thing. Getting ****ing sick and tired of this recently.

As for the original topic, how ridiculous. And who on earth can judge if someones eyes are attractive or not...whats attractive to one wont be attractive to another etc etc

Amazing eyes

http://thebromfieldschool.schools.officelive.com/images/GREEN%20eyes.jpg

Not amazing eyes

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/picture/dan_richard13/Kinda_Big_Eyes.jpg

[Vicky.]

See the first eyes are really weird to me, and a little scary :laugh:

[Jesus.]

See the first eyes are really weird to me, and a little scary :laugh:

I could stare at them all day.

The first ones, obviously. Not the 2nd set.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't get why Saudi Arabia is so backwards? and to answer Spitfire we don't have the backward and insane laws that the Middle East have,that's why they can't get on our case as much.

[Jesus.]

I don't get why Saudi Arabia is so backwards? and to answer Spitfire we don't have the backward and insane laws that the Middle East have,that's why they can't get on our case as much.

It's because Islam is still a young religion, in relative terms, and isn't quite secure with itself yet. They're still in their dark ages period, that Christianity went through.

Islam needs an enlightenment movement, to switch the Koran from the unalterable word of god, to some allegorical stories, and metaphorical stories like the bible.

The Abraham religions have all gone through this. Judaism wanted to kill everyone for a while, then Christianity did too. We need some brave Muslim scholars to stand up and denounce this kind of behaviour, and these laws, but we'll just have to wait it out, I'm afraid.

[Me. I Am Salman]

It's because Islam is still a young religion, in relative terms, and isn't quite secure with itself yet. They're still in their dark ages period, that Christianity went through.

Islam needs an enlightenment movement, to switch the Koran from the unalterable word of god, to some allegorical stories, and metaphorical stories like the bible.

The Abraham religions have all gone through this. Judaism wanted to kill everyone for a while, then Christianity did too. We need some brave Muslim scholars to stand up and denounce this kind of behaviour, and these laws, but we'll just have to wait it out, I'm afraid.

i dont think you should purely pin the blame on Islam. E.g. Islam does allow equality and women are regarded as the jewels of the Earth. However some of these nations exaggerate their laws a bit too much, like no women being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia - Islam does not permit that.

[Marsh.]

Well Italy convicted Amanda Knox because she supossedly performed Satanic sex rituals, so let's not act like "civilized western countries" don't also have wacky courts.

Not to mention the alleged murder of a fellow student.

[sexyb4ck]

i always say women have got it good in this country

[Marsh.]

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

I don't care to get into another debate with you so don't take this as me starting one. But I just wanted to remind you of the thread the other day where we talking about you always bringing America vs The World into thread discussions, and you said it was me taking things personal and out of context. I find this post above quite funny in regards to that, bringing a discussion about Saudi Arabia around to America vs Europe.

Strange thing that you feel the need to make things about America all the time on a majority British forum.

Edit - Just noticed you're making highly inappropriate and exaggerated accusations. Last week it was alleged racism, and this week it's Europeans attitude towards Americans is equal or worse to that of Nazi's in WW2. You are seriously messed up my friend, seriously. You're either highly sensitive or very very young.
FYI - Nazi Germany does not = "Europe". Europe is a very large continent of nationalities.

[Mystic Mock]

i dont think you should purely pin the blame on Islam. E.g. Islam does allow equality and women are regarded as the jewels of the Earth. However some of these nations exaggerate their laws a bit too much, like no women being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia - Islam does not permit that.

Exactly Salman.

[Shasown]

i dont think you should purely pin the blame on Islam. E.g. Islam does allow equality and women are regarded as the jewels of the Earth. However some of these nations exaggerate their laws a bit too much, like no women being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia - Islam does not permit that.

The permitting and non permitting depends who is interpreting the Qur'an and the Hadith etc.

[Jesus.]

i dont think you should purely pin the blame on Islam. E.g. Islam does allow equality and women are regarded as the jewels of the Earth. However some of these nations exaggerate their laws a bit too much, like no women being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia - Islam does not permit that.

Lets not go overboard here. Islam is not a woman-friendly religion at it's core. Admittedly, for the time it was invented (and I use invented from my own view point), it improved womens rights when comparing it to Judaism and Christianity.

But you are incorrect, that Islam is religion that treats the sexes as equals. You should read some Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is both a woman, and an apostate, and now has to live in fear for her life.

[InOne]

It's because Islam is still a young religion, in relative terms, and isn't quite secure with itself yet. They're still in their dark ages period, that Christianity went through.
Islam needs an enlightenment movement, to switch the Koran from the unalterable word of god, to some allegorical stories, and metaphorical stories like the bible.

The Abraham religions have all gone through this. Judaism wanted to kill everyone for a while, then Christianity did too. We need some brave Muslim scholars to stand up and denounce this kind of behaviour, and these laws, but we'll just have to wait it out, I'm afraid.

Is that you Pat?

[Marsh.]

Is that you Pat?

Butcher? She died last week. :bawling:

[InOne]

Butcher? She died last week. :bawling:

:joker:

[Jesus.]

Pat? Don't get the reference. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pat-butcher.jpg

[InOne]

:joker:

What you said reminded me of a Pat Condell video. The youtube legend guy.

[Jesus.]

I know who Pat Butcher is, but I don't get the leap from the bold text in the reply to my post, to Pat/Pat Butcher.

Edit: I get it now it's been explained.

[Livia]

i always say women have got it good in this country

Yeah, lucky old us, eh?