BB2 Housemates

[bonzobravo]

As I have not been posting here very long, I have never posted or seen what people think of the BB2 Housemates so I thought I'd tell you what I think!

Please tell me what you thought of the BB2 Housemates?
and yes I know you all love 'Helen & Paul' !!!

Brian
What can I say an absolute star. Easily the funniest housemate in all big brothers. As well as being honest and genuine. The only thing he ever did that slightly irritated me, was in the final round of nominations, he nominated Helen over Elizabeth..When he quite clearly got on better with Helen. But apart from that one moment he entertained me for every day of the nine weeks.

His 'issue' with Josh was obviously just the fact that Brian had just come out as a gay guy, and had been accepted by a group of people, who were strangers, and that meant a lot too him. So when Josh came in, as a gay guy he was always going to have an issue with him. It wasn't personal, but because he was gay and that didn't allow him to feel special any more. I felt really sorry for Brian and Josh. This was Brian showing the country his vulnerable side, one of the most genuine housemates there has ever been in big brother.

Narinder
Narinder was fiery, bitchy and very very funny. Together with Brian the funniest moments of big brother. I wish she had been in it longer. She was also very attractive. I wouldn't say no.

Helen
Helen was also very funny, honest and genuine. I imagine she would be impossible to live with. But her heart seemed always to be in the right place. Her 2nd place in Big Brother was merited. Her relationship with Paul was amusing to watch, as the flirting was sincere but terrible. The worst flirts I've ever seen, you would have thought they were 15 and this was the first person they had fancied. But this endeared them to me. They obviously feel very deeply for each other. I hope they stay together and think they will. A lot of people think she is attractive, but I would see her as a baby sister.

Penny
Completely mad, absolutely off her rocker. But I love her, she was hilariously funny to watch. She was incredibly insecure, and I felt deeply for her when she was evicted. At the time I wanted Helen to go. But I suppose BB2 would not have been the same without Helen. The Penny V Stuart argument, well I was firmly on Penny's side, and if I need to explain why, then you are not the type of person I can be bothered explaining it to!

Dean
Dean was a really decent chap, slightly pretentious, but with good reasons. After all the only 'stimulating' conversations he had were with Elizabeth. His dry sense of humour was......... very very dry. He also got what he deserved 3rd place. I have lost a lot of respect for him since though, I always thought he was not a wannabe, and fairly cool. But after that record with Bubble I sighed heavily, and thought oh well another ones been lost!

Paul
Paul is a fantastically 'nice' person, but for me there wasn't much to him. He behaved like a true gentleman with Helen and should be applauded for that. But he would talk absolute sh*t some of the time, and I wondered what planet he was on. I know he is incredibly popular with the ladies, but for me he is distinctly average, with no charisma. I don't want to sound like I am bashing him, because I honestly think he is a nice person.

Bubble
I was never convinced by Bubble, he struck me as being not completely genuine, I don't know why I feel this as I have no evidence to back this up. I was pleased when Paul beat him, as the whole of the house was convinced Paul would go. It was great moment. Early on I laughed a lot at him, but in the end he just irritated me. Since leaving the house he irritated me even more.

Josh
Good looking, but very very boring. Simple as that!

Stuart
The only BB2 contestant who I really really disliked. He was controlling, self obsessed and arrogant. In my opinion he was sexist and bordered on homo-phobic. He would have done well in BB3. I have no time for him what so ever!!!!!!

Elizabeth
Elizabeth is someone I have mixed feelings for, she is naturally beautiful, I get the feeling that she will become more beautiful the older she gets. She had great depth to her personalty. But unfortunately she felt she was superior to a lot of the housemates. But I really enjoyed some of her conversations, she knew a little about a lot. However the only time she annoyed me, was her behaviour towards Helen, after Paul had left. You know the conversation were she manipulated what Paul had said. It still angers me now. But overall I liked Elizabeth.

Amma
Not much to say really, nice girl who was unfairly portrayed as aggressive. Nice bum and smile.

What do you think of the BB2 Housemates??????

[cc100]

amma- big headed-----miss centre of attention

brian- see above(mr)

stuart-misunderstood ----mr normal

dean-nice man,good person to chat with--- mr intelligent

paul-a good guy, also misunderstood---------mr cool

naz-no real opinion although now i feel shes a desparado, going to every party ------------miss look at me

helen-very good looking, sweet and endearing---miss diamond

josh-thinks hes it ------------mr slimey

elizabeth-too snooty and a stirrer --------miss high and mighty

bubble-in yer face, but a laugh -------mr annoying

penny-bitchy and horrible----------miss nasty


do u agree?

reply in the style i have if u can

[WILDCHILD]

Helen - my favourite housemate by far! She was such a good character, really bubbly and vibrant. There was never a dull moment with H in the house.

Paul - a lovely looking bloke who I totally fancied! I really felt for him when the others talked about him and looked down on him, I understood where was he was coming from. H e, along with H, created the best storyline on TV EVER!!

Brian - absoultely hilarious. He brightened up he house, I loved it when he screamed and said, 'DEMONS, HOW RUDE!!' A truly deserved winner.

Narinder - no matter how bitchy or 2 faced she was, she was pure enteertainment. Loved watching Naz.

Stuart - I didnt find him the most interesting of housemates but I didnt dislike him.

Amma - quite borng, didnt inspire me to like her.

Josh - seemed like a nice bloke, would probably be more nicer and more of a laugh outside of the house. Nice body!!

Dean - spoke a lot of sense. However, as nice as he was, he seemed to think that every thing he said was right. (if you get me)

Liz - couldnt stand the woman. I know a lot of people will agree with me as to the way she treated Paul - TERRIBLE!!!! I found her 2 faced and quite frankly, boring!

Penny - mad and scatty but would have been interesting if she had been in the house longer thatn she was,.

Bubble - I liked the friendship he had with Brian. I found Bubble quite funny. Sometimes a bit moody and selfish but heb was a good character.

So, there you go!! But even though I didnt like some of these housemates they all contributed to the best TV series ever, BB2!!!! :dance: :hello: :laugh: :elephant:

[BigSister]

Brian-Extreamly funny and I was soooooo happy when he won
Helen-Lovely bubbly girl and If Brian hadnt won she should have won.
Dean-His humour was so funny he put the house together but his bitching and his moriality let him down
Elizabeth-I didnt really like her, she was 2 faced and she never got up 4 nomnination
Paul-lovely guy and His and Helens relationship kept me on the edge of my seat
Josh-I didnt really like him much
Amma-She was a bit boring
Bubble-He was ok.I didnt hate him but he wasnt a fave
Narinder-Her duo with Brian was good but she spolit it at end
Sturat- I didnt like how he reacted to Penny
Penny-Absoulity Mad and I found her hillarious

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[James]

Penny
Eccentric, insecure and over-fussing – a real character though. I’m not sure if she was necessarily a good candidate for going into the house. Maybe evicted for her own good.

Stuart
I always thought his faults were blown out of proportion by the necessity to create a ‘Nasty Nick’ style villain. Also, he’s a rich and successful businessman and the public love to knock someone like that down a peg or two. Generally a nice guy. A bit of a poser, but that, in itself, is quite funny.

Narinder
Her bitching was very entertaining. She probably doesn’t do herself any favours though. That’s a pity I think. Her eviction interview, where she let rip at the others was very funny.

Bubble
Looking back at it now, he was probably my least favourite housemate. There’s no doubt that he is a genuine, good-hearted person who would be good to have as a friend and would probably make you laugh a lot if you knew him. But on television, his clowning never really amused me – and for that reason came across as someone who thought he was funnier that he actually was. Though I quite liked the clip where he pretended to be the rag doll and scared Narinder, that was about it. I was glad that Paul stayed in the eviction vote with Bubble, though I was kicking myself because I could have backed Bubble, earlier in the week, to be evicted at odds of 10-1, and didn’t!

Amma
I didn’t think she did a lot on the show. Just blended into the background really. Some people thought she was grouchy but I think maybe she didn’t settle into the environment with so many big personalities around her.

Josh
By his own admission, he was holding himself back, not letting his full personality show. Was always shown buried in a book and therefore thought as boring. But if too many people are competing for attention then the show can become too noisy and consequently unwatchable. He was at a disadvantage coming in late as well. I liked him best during his eviction interview when his opinions about the other housemates were honest and forthright. I think that afterwards he couldn’t be so candid, especially about Brian, because Josh found out how popular Brian was with the public.

Paul
His relationship with Helen was what made Big Brother 2 a unique television event for me. Totally compulsive viewing in weeks 7 and 8. I always thought that Paul was being genuine and the fact that many of the postings on the message boards at the time were quite venomous made me more sympathetic to him. I couldn’t really fault the way he acted with Helen, knowing what he knew at the time.
Also, Paul could be very funny in a not intending to be kind of way e.g. the sleep-talking, the international popstar remark. I guess that’s something like Tim’s comprende comment, but I’d say whatever is funny is funny – it doesn’t matter how.

Elizabeth
I thought she was all right, although I know that many disagree. She found out while she was in there that the Big Brother house and series didn’t suit her personality. Most of the people in there were just not people she would normally spend time with in the real world, though I don’t think she should receive a slating because of this. The fact that she was different to the others added to the broader scope of characters the show had - compared to BB3. She could be slightly two-faced, especially to Helen, maybe for the sake of the game, possibly because Elizabeth didn’t want to hurt her feelings.
Elizabeth got me annoyed during the infamous argument in bedroom and also the week earlier when, by the hot tub, she told Brian and Dean what she thought Paul had told her. That set Brian really against Paul at that point, but even that could have been the result of a misunderstanding.
Mind you, I thought Elizabeth’s bizarre ‘Why can’t you be normal!’ tirade with Dean in the orange blankets and sunglasses in the middle of the night was really funny.

Dean
My opinion of Dean was that he was very easy going and was interesting to listen in conversation. He also possessed a keen sense of humour – very wry. Dean proves that you don’t need to clown around or be over-the-top to be funny in Big Brother. I also liked his music.

Helen
She was radiant, hilariously funny and entertaining and so, so endearing. She was also completely herself and genuine. When she got together with Paul she sparkled even more. She is unique. I wanted Helen to win in the final.

Brian
The other outstanding aspect of Big Brother 2, apart from the romance, was the comedy and Brian provided laughs in spades. His comedy was sharp, witty and surreal. Brian played no small part in my belief that BB2 was one of the funniest television series ever.


I’d say that I liked them all in some way and they all contributed to a great show. I like all the BB2 housemates as much as I was indifferent to the occupants of the BB3 house.

[BusyBee]

Penny - probably a very nice person, but completely out of her depth in that house - so needy
Stuart - really competitive and as for the compulsion with the tan and exercising - really really annoying
Narinda - could not keep her mouth shut, she was always honest but I didnt like the way she talked about people behind their back, clung to Brian too much
Bubble - he both amused me and annoyed me. Tried too hard to be popular. But loved the poem he wrote for Elizabeth.
Amma - couldnt quite make her out. I think Paul was right when he said that she talked down to people. She always tried to sound 'sensible' but I thought she was hiding what she really thought.
Josh - I couldnt put my finger on it, but I always felt a bit uneasy about Josh. He had it hard coming in late but because of the fact that all the others liked Brian he always seemed to come second best. I was also confused about him professing to be gay but then saying that he had slept with a woman not long before and wanted children 'the natural way'
Paul: Now I could go on for ever about the sainted PC. Along with Helen my favourite. He grew in stature as the weeks went by and the laddish demeanour he started out started diminishing. It was so clear to see what a struggle he was having over his feelings for Helen and weeks 7 and 8 had me glued to the tv. It was obvious they were serious and I am so glad everything has worked out for them :paul:
Elizabeth: Elizabeth was a great mother to the house, but she also had a nasty streak. I didnt like the way she tried to turn the others against Paul and when she told Helen about their conversation, well I could have strung her up that was vindictive
Dean: lovely guy he didnt try to be anything but himself. He provided the music in the house which meant a lot to the others and had a fantastic dry sense of humour. I loved it when he and Bubble were sitting the garden 'watching the England match' with an invisable tv.
Helen: My favourite in the house, although the first week I hated her, but as been said before when she was nominated she changed for the better. She was always herself and couldnt pretend to be otherwise. Her feelings for Paul were so transparent and how she reacted the night he left just left me in floods of tears - how could the others have separated them. They knew what they wanted when they got out and determined to put themselves first and the media second and make their relationship work. Good for them. Please come back to our TVs Helen we miss you. :helen:
Brian: Certainly deserved to win. He was the house entertainment :joker: Could be a bit spoilt, but admitted it. I might be a bit controversial, but I think he was a bit jealous of Paul and Helen's relationship. Perhaps it was because they sort of used him as a sounding board which may have made him realise what he was missing. A great guy and deserves everything he has got from being in Big Brother.

[bonzobravo]

BUSY BEE you said the following

Josh - I couldn't put my finger on it, but I always felt a bit uneasy about Josh. He had it hard coming in late but because of the fact that all the others liked Brian he always seemed to come second best. I was also confused about him professing to be gay but then saying that he had slept with a woman not long before and wanted children 'the natural way'

Why do you care about his sexuality? It is irrelevant, you sound like Paul, which in my opinion is not a good thing!!!!

Who are we to judge if he is gay, straight or bi?
Only he knows the answer and the fact that he slept with a woman does not matter.

My honest PERSONAL opinion is every person in the world is born bi-sexual, but society puts pressure on us to behave a certain way, and 'conform'. A lot of people feel you have to be straight or gay. Why label people? Do we not fancy individuals and not a gender?

I will get off my horse

[bonzobravo]

Sorry I meant
I will get off my HIGH horse

[Ig]

Great idea for a thread Bonzobravo - I'm sick of the BB3 lot already!

Penny - I thought she was warm, kind, funny, but a bit unbalanced. I agree her eviction was probably for her own good.

Stuart - Initially I thought he seemed a lovely guy, but the more I watched him, the more I grew to dislike him. He seemed to feel he was superior to everyone, with very little reason, and was quite obviously bigoted, chauvinistic, and possibly homophobic, altho his cutting comments to Brian were usually disguised with a laugh.

Narinder - Really liked her but thought her bitching would wear thin with the other housemates very quickly, and might also lead to Brian being nominated. So I voted her out :blush: Sorry Naz!

Bubble - I liked him from the start, even though he could be moody, I thought he was also good fun and very caring and supportive.

Amma - I didn't really like her while she was in the house ... I found her a bit aggressive, lazy and patronising. When she came out, she seemed to change (even in her last week I was starting to warm to her) and I feel sorry for her because she could have done so much with her singing talent but hasnt had the opportunities that seem to have been thrown at this year's housemates.

Josh - Difficult one! I liked him, but sometimes his attitude to Brian made me want to scream! The most annoying thing for me was when he would say something really scathing to Brian, and when Brian would retaliate, make out that Brian was "picking on him" yet again! He reminded me of an annoying little brother in a lot of respects ... except he was old enough to know better.

Paul - oh dear. I didnt really like Paul (... ducks ...) he irritated me no end. I also thought he was a jack-the-lad who would jetison Helen as soon as she ceased to be of use to him. I'm therefore absolutely delighted to have been proved wrong, and I wish him all the best. (course, if he DID do the dirty on H I'd be in the queue to break his legs!!)

Elizabeth - What can I say!! Two-faced, charmless, full of her own importance, manipulative, arrogant, and when she blurted out Paul's comment about the 60/40 thing I could have hit her. Even Brian, who was in full anti-Paul mode, looked taken aback at that moment. Spineless (in as much as she would never say anything to anyone's face) and spiteful are probably the best words to describe her.

Dean - a star in my eyes ... and I LOVED the world cup song!! :bawling: A genuine friend to Bubble, and Brian's rock too. The way he fussed and cooed over Brian and Helen on the final day was really sweet. I found Dean fascinating, caring and an all-round good guy!

Helen - an endearing, sweet girl, with an occasionally sharp tongue in inappropriate places. Although I would have been devastated if Brian hadn't won, the blow would have been softened by Helen being the winner. She was touchingly gracious about coming second, although her outburst at Brian after Elizabeth's eviction was completely uncalled for and I think lost her a lot of votes. ( a lot of my friends thought that there was a big difference between wondering which boyfriend would turn up and worrying whether you still had a family!!) All in all tho, very deserving of her place in the final.

Brian - where do I start?? I didn't think much of him at first, but as time went by and I watched him more and more I was completely hooked. I loved everything about him, his humour, vulnerability, honesty, bitchiness, but above all his insecurity, which made me feel really protective of him. That has lasted to this day. He had his iffy moments, the Josh incident, nominating Helen ... but I could see the reasons behind them when it seemed others couldn't, and loved him all the more for it. I'm afraid the big romance didnt really grab me (sorry again!) as much as Brian's agonising and worrying over the outside world. His humour was something that kept me going through one of the most difficult periods of my life and he will always have a special place in my heart. A well deserved winner, and probably the best winner ever. They may try to find another, but they never will. Others may try to imitate, but there can only be one Brian .... The Winner!!

[bonzobravo]

IG

What a great post, I agree with 90% of your comments and I am glad that you to picked up on Stuart's well hidden homophobia. I too was not that intrested in the 'big' romance. but it was sweet.
Don't agree with your views on Bubble though

[susieq]

BUSY BEE you said the following
Josh - I couldn't put my finger on it, but I always felt a bit uneasy about Josh. He had it hard coming in late but because of the fact that all the others liked Brian he always seemed to come second best. I was also confused about him professing to be gay but then saying that he had slept with a woman not long before and wanted children 'the natural way'
Why do you care about his sexuality? It is irrelevant, you sound like Paul, which in my opinion is not a good thing!!!!


I think I understand what Busy Bee meant, and I think it's the same as Paul meant when he was trying to articulate it to Josh. It's not a matter of whether Josh (or anyone else for that matter) is gay - the issue is about deceit. It's about pretending to be something you're not. It's about saying you are one thing with some people and then stepping out of that 'role' to be someone or something else, when the mood takes. I think that's what Paul found hard to grasp.

If someone is straight they don't usually decide to have a homosexual relationship. If they are going to either cheat on their current partner, or leave one partner to take up with someone else it's usually someone of the opposite sex because their sexuality is heterosexual. Whereas Josh was saying he was gay and then saying he had recently slept with a woman (which is not usually the gender of choice for a homosexual man!). This is what Paul struggled with. He couldn't make sense of it because it was going outside of his frame of reference. He certainly didn't have any issues with people being gay but he most certainly didn't like people who he perceived to be deceitful.

[bonzobravo]

My point was why do you care?

He may be gay but just happened to sleep with a woman. Sex is just sex. If you are single, which I presume he was

My main point was:
My honest PERSONAL opinion is every person in the world is born bi-sexual, but society puts pressure on us to behave a certain way, and 'conform'. A lot of people feel you have to be straight or gay. Why label people? Do we not fancy individuals and not a gender?

Do you realise the stick gay men give men who are bi-sexual, they say they are in denial. Bi-sexual people are not accepeted in general by both straight and gay people.

I consider myself bi-sexual yet I often tell gay people that I am gay, because I often get hassle for being bi-sexual. And most straight people think I am straight, apart from close friends and close family, So that would put me in the same catogroy of Josh

Does that make me deceitful? Or just some one who wants an easy life.

[bonzobravo]

I don't want to sound ars*y, Susieq technically speaking Josh may have been deceitful, but in life were people have prejudices, you have to be deceitful sometimes. If I am honest I believe everyone is bi-sexual including Josh. But I would imagine he goes out on the 'gay scene' a lot, so if he goes on national TV and says I am bi-sexual he would have got a lot of stick for it.

Even the 'gay' media frowns upon bi-sexuals to a certain degree. I seem to remeber Adele remarking on this too. A lot of people think you have to be one or another. I personally like 'individuals' some happen to be men some women. I don't broadcast everywere I am bi-sexual, why do people need to know if Paul had spoke to me like that I would have just walked away.

I don't dislike Paul, but he just has no idea how complex and difficult it was for Josh in there. You can't speak frankly about issues like that in the BB house.

[cc100]

Originally posted by Ig

( a lot of my friends thought that there was a big difference between wondering which boyfriend would turn up and worrying whether you still had a family!!)



what do u mean?

[Romantic Old Bird]

This line is getting very profound.

I know feelings are very acute about these things.

Having seen Brian's parents and family it is a shame he didn't have more faith in their ability to accept him for himself. They seemed lovely, but he had dropped it on them at the last minute, and that was a shame. I felt for them. He dropped the bombshell and then entered the BB cocoon, leaving them to deal with the most public 'outing' imaginable of their only son and heir.

I don't know about the comparison you make with wondering if she had a boyfriend. I think it wasn't just that. P&H were going through an absolute turmoil with their feelings, and love is incredibly intense and all enveloping.

Helen was pointing out to Brian that she and Paul had been confronted with the spectre of the outside world repeatedly over the weeks. One or the other had to face up to it each week. She was just trying to tell him to calm down, she had been through it. They were both very hyper at the time.

Last week paranoia. Remember how they thought something nasty was about to befall them all through the last week of BB3?

I think it is fair to say that for a gay or bi sexual person, Brian's dilemma and Josh's uncertainty was pivotal to BB2.

For a romantic old hetero, the love story was the best TV ever, unfolding in front of my very eyes. WOW! I don't care how gauche and inept Paul was, or how relentlessly and coquettishly predatory Helen was, it was FANTASTIC!! Call me selfish. It made me feel good.

cc, I'll give my housemate views later. Now, back to work

[bonzobravo]

I don't think there's any need to add anything to that ROB, so I won't try, I agree ROB!

I don't know how Brian coped in the house, after dropping such a bombshell. Although I imagined it helped the situation, as it gave his parents time to come to terms with the situation.

[Ig]

Originally posted by Romantic old bird


Having seen Brian's parents and family it is a shame he didn't have more faith in their ability to accept him for himself


Helen was pointing out to Brian that she and Paul had been confronted with the spectre of the outside world repeatedly over the weeks.






I agree Brian should probably have had more faith in his parents, but being Irish and Catholic, and being repeatedly told by Dean how unacceptable his sexuality would be to the church did little to help his insecurity.

I'm not trying to have a go at Helen, just saying that she seemed to turn on Brian at the very time he needed a little support. He was absolutely terrified, and calling him selfish at a time like that wasn't really the action of a friend. By all means tell him he's talking rubbish, but selfish ... ?? That was below the belt. Also, Helen had repeatedly told all the housemates that her nominations had never bothered her and she'd taken them all in her stride ... so a little reassurance wouldn't have gone amiss. Maybe she could have done with Mr Clarke on hand to remind her to be more ...tactful??? :hugesmile: Obviously, I'm speaking as a huge Brian fan, but the friends who chose to comment on the outburst were Helen fans, so I was just pointing out that that was how some people felt at the time. There really was no comparison between the apprehension she felt, and the sheer dread that was playing on Brian's mind, whether he was right or wrong in feeling that way. As I said in a previous post, Brian had his iffy moments too, but this particular rant did not go down well with a lot of people.

But I still love 'er! :love:

[BusyBee]

Sorry bonzobrave I didnt mean to upset anyone - perhaps I didnt explain myself very well. Susieq explained it much better than me. I have absolutely nothing against anyone being bi=sexual or gay but I just like people to be honest and up front which I felt Josh wasnt. I apologise if I upset you but everyone is entitled to their own views. For your information my daughter's best friend is a gay guy and he is the kindest, most honest and genuine person you could meet. I sure opened a can of worms here which certainly wasnt intended.

[Romantic Old Bird]

I know Ig, and we are all more tolerant by now, I hope, of all the other housemates frailties. After all, it was along time ago now :bawling: and everyone seems to have done just fine out of it.

In fact, I imagine that the BB2 11 have agonised about it a LOT less than we have.

ANY RODE UP - Back to the original thread!!

My views on the housemates in BB2


Penny-

I thought she was a very kind eccentric woman who would have driven anyone round the twist very quickly in an enclosed space. She did invade personal space and it is very discomfiting.

I think she is a natural carer, and it is really a shame that she left teaching. A sort mad, female version of Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society. Except it wasn't

'Oh Captain, my captain!'

It was

'Oh come on Paul, GRAB me!'


Stuart -

I think he made a grave error of judgement going in to the house. I think he is probably a very good man, but he came across as autocratic and inflexible. Probably a very successful businessman, but not a team player at all. On the plus side, his organisational skills have acheived a reunion and one or two more get togethers.

His wife and children obviously adore him, so I'm sure he is much nicer than he was portrayed as being.


Narinder:

I really liked her at the time, but having seen all the replays and watched her work her way around denegrating people who were essentially nice to her, I have tempered that opinion rather.

She is feisty and funny, but demanding of attention and incredibly intolerant of others. Her mimicry of other housemates was cruel.

She had a kind side to her as well I am sure, and she was funny. It is a very good thing for Brian that she left when she did though.


Bubble:

Like Paul, I actually liked him better after nomination and eviction.
I thought in the house he was loud and moody. I was completely flumoxed as to why Dean, Amma, Brian and Elizabeth were so enamoured of him. He thought he was far funnier than he was.

I also didn't see the great 'nobility' of trying to win the money for his daughter. Sorting himself out and being there for her, working hard and saving over 18 years like the rest of the human race would have been far more sensible and likely to work.

It annoyed me that everyone was so concerned for him, and how he felt, completely ignoring Paul's stress at being up for the 3rd time.

He redeemed himself by seeming to be an OK bloke during his Davina interview, but I wish he'd stop banging on about the vote against him being fixed. It wasn't.

Amma:

Not a lot to say really. She was very opinionated and had a big chip on her shoulder. She seemed angry and confrontational all the time, but it could have been editing. She was bright and knew she had under-utilised this, so she was defensive. She really didn't know where she was going with her life.

She was obviously a nice girl really. Helen really took to her, and I think she is a great judge of character!

Josh:

I don't know really. I think he would be charming to meet, and good company, but he was out of place in the house somehow. It was probably because of his late entry. He didn't have the courage to be himself, and defo shouldn't have shaved his head :nono: . Nice bod though!

Mr Clarke...........


http://www.bluemountain.com/img/t/tweety1cp.gif

Where do I begin, to tell the story etc, etc.

No really, here's the deal:

A much loved and cherished oldest son, apple of his parents eye, and obviously adored by sister and brother.

Kind natured and brought up to be decent by someone with strong if rather narrow views.

The laddish bravado was I think developed after his breakup with Philippa, which had really shattered him. If you look through the 'rubber clad nurses' bit, he had two serious girlfriends.

Hence the 'I'm single, and that's the way I like it' comment in the audition. Bravado.

I remember reading at the time comments by his first girlfriend and his long term friends. Not a bad word anywhere.

In the house he decided to go for a laugh with Penny, whose response frightened the s**t out of him. If you look at Paul before he was nominated and when Penny wasn't around, he was an amiable, cheerful, fun individual. He got on well with most housemates. Then, Narinder told Penny he was boring, and started pulling the faces.

Amma told Bubble he had failed the fire task and let Helen take the blame. I actually have a clip where he tells Elizabeth, Dean and Helen immediately that was probably at least as much at fault when Helen said she thought she was. He had been in the house re: something to do with his ankle injury on crutches when Helen left Elizabeth alone with the fire.

Amma and Bubble then consistently nominated him for being dishonest. One thing he never really was.

We've talked about the Josh thing, and the Amma argument was pure self defence. he was being treated very unkindly by several of the housemates.

His behaviour with Helen was at first superficial flirting, and then as we all know, nature kicked in. I thought he behaved admirably, and protected Helen from her worst impulses. He was an absolute sweetie, and with her we saw his guard come down, he relaxed and showed his tender caring nature. BHLCS
:love: :love:

He showed a lot of character in how he dealt with his nominations, and directed no recriminations at all towards his fellow housemates.

I liked Paul Clarke, I did.


Elizabeth:

I think I have to take a deep breath and try to rationalise my feelings. She was in the wrong gameshow.

She was like a Queens guide doing the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme. She thought she had been appointed house mother. She complained about it, but loved it. She felt superior to the others, and thought she was slumming it.

She annoyed me intensely, but never more so than when she held a victory parade after Paul's eviction, and told Helen to shut up snivelling.

Not to mention that night.

How controlled was that!

Dean:

Nice guy, would have been far better without Elizabeth. The voice of reason, and had a great dry sense of humour.

His music was a catalyst on the dates night for P&H.

Helen:

Amazing, natural, bright, happy loving girl with a bag full of insecurities. Desperate for love and approval, she is therfore vulnerable and could easily become a victim in the wrong relationship.

Absolutely guileless, and wonderfully uninhibited in her pursuit of Mr Clarke. I think she has picked the right person to protect and cherish her. A good match of dependance and protection. He's her lobster.


Brian:

Singular, and in a way it was unfair to put him in the house. It was obvious he would stand out by a mile. I did think he was sweet and funny initially, but I tired of the Evil Demons bit quite quickly. As I said earlier, I think if Narinder hadn't gone when she did, he might have been more vulnerable.

Putting Josh in after week two was bound to unsettle him. I did know exactly where Brian was coming from in his fears, he had felt safe until then. It wasn't fair on either of them.

I laughed with him, but I won't fib and say he was my favourite. He upset me by nominating Helen, and he was very focused on his own needs. I'm glad he has done well and established a career in television, but I really wanted Helen to win.

Never mind, it's all done and dusted now.

[bonzobravo]

Busbybee

You don't have to apologise, I don't think you are homophebic (not that I know you)

Thats why I like this forum, things do tend to go of on a tangent!

[cc100]

Originally posted by Romantic old bird





If you look through the 'rubber clad nurses' bit






u cant just brush over that!!!!
explain please?

[Princess Pink Pants]

can U also explain wot BHLCS means??!

[Mark]

Bless His Little Cotton Socks

:colour:

[cc100]

can someone reply to my post above please?
thanx

[Romantic Old Bird]

Originally posted by cc100
can someone reply to my post above please?
thanx

If you mean my 'rubber clad nurses' bit, I meant Paul talking about his past amorous adventures with 'the ladies'. Well, maybe not ladies.

They all did it, but Elizabeth particularly disliked his tale about a particular party he attended where there was a girl dressed in such an outfit who shall we say, took an instant shine to him... :blush: