Over-stepping the mark???

[rusticgal]

Michael has grown on me but I think he over-stepped the mark tonight.... I know he has said similar things in the diary room...but that was brutal.
Denise has been desperate to be his friend...too desperate after a drink or two...but no way did she deserve that tonight.... I really felt for her.

Unless Michael can retrieve the situation then I think he will have caused himself more harm than good!!!

[Black Dagger]

She's a drunken ****ing mess who has harassed him all series and made him feel like **** at every possibly chance, she's a joke and I'd have said much worse.

[InOne]

She should know when to back off. She has played the vicitm card far too long. She got destroyed.

[Josy]

I think Michael was the only one to be truthful with his nominations tbh, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fan, all the rest of the nomination reasons tonight were crap imo

[rusticgal]

Harsh.....

[Cherie]

Nah, she had it coming...

[rusticgal]

I think Michael was the only one to be truthful with his nominations tbh, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fan, all the rest of the nomination reasons tonight were crap imo

I agree but just think it was unnecessary to be sooooo brutal.

Nicola was pathetic...:joker:

[Jedwardhater]

Michael said the truth! Simples.

[JohnnyBB]

some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hes playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.

[waterhog]

this man is not nice - she denise should no better but both do not deserve to come out of this good and they wont <

[Patricia4]

She should know when to back off. She has played the vicitm card far too long. She got destroyed.

i agree just what I thought.

[Angus]

some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hea playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.


Do you actually watch the show at all? If so you will know that Denise has stalked and harrassed Michael from day 1 and turns into a shrieking banshee after a few drinks. She then goes running to the other HMs with her carefully edited version of events that always cast her as the victim.

Michael was told to give his reasons, and he was the only one who did so honestly unlike the other cowardly HMs who were too scared to be truthful. Perhaps NOW Denise will keep out of his face until Friday when she will hopefully be booted out.

[Monkey Slut]

I didn't see any problem with what he said. :shrug:

[Roy Mars III]

She deserved it. Wasn't even that bad

[wendywillow]

Do you actually watch the show at all? If so you will know that Denise has stalked and harrassed Michael from day 1 and turns into a shrieking banshee after a few drinks. She then goes running to the other HMs with her carefully edited version of events that always cast her as the victim.

Michael was told to give his reasons, and he was the only one who did so honestly unlike the other cowardly HMs who were too scared to be truthful. Perhaps NOW Denise will keep out of his face until Friday when she will hopefully be booted out.


it was brutal but michael cant take any more....denise just doesnt know how to not push his buttons....she did it again the other nght after frankies b-day party....its painful to watch at this point, i like them both

[Visage]

I think Michael has just given Denise more public votes.

[Angus]

I think Michael has just given Denise more public votes.



More fool the gullible public if they want to save the sad histrionic cow. Whatever - Michael won't be going anywhere thankfully. With luck two of the three witches will get the boot, or one of them and Kirk.

[Jords]

He wad rude and aggressive, going down the same path as Vinnie. People are only sniffing his arse because of his name, yeah Denise is a crazy drunk but y'know what? At least she has fun. Michael is a miserable git. I do like him because he has good humour at times, but hes slowly creeping down in my estimations.

[Bojangles]

I like Michael and want him to win.They say the truth hurts and it did with Denise tonight.
However I did think he could have put it a bit more delicately than he did.

[snookered]

Some psychotherapists would charge thousands for Michaels diagnosis :joker:

He just saved her a fortune.

[Jack_]

They are both great housemates and are vital if this series is going to remain entertaining, to hate one or both of them would just be idiotic.

He was pretty out of order and nasty with his reasoning tonight I have to be honest, but I still laughed and that doesn't detract from the fact that he's a great housemate.

[Jords]

I like Michael and want him to win.They say the truth hurts and it did with Denise tonight.
However I did think he could have put it a bit more delicately than he did.

Lousy excuse using that saying in this case, Denise has no way near been that bad (nor had Michael up until tonight!)

[joeysteele]

I like Michael, but he should leave mental issues out of things, he has done himself no favours tonight and did in my view overstep the mark.

Denise annoys him and is a vexation to him but to bring in that he thinks she is mentally unbalanced was totally wrong.I certainly would take offence if anyone said that about me and I just hope he will retract it and apologise for that section of his remarks while still saying she annoys him so it's best if they carry out routine courteisies rather than engage in deep conversations for the rest of their time in the house.

[Jules2]

I think Michael was the only one to be truthful with his nominations tbh, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fan, all the rest of the nomination reasons tonight were crap imo

It was unfortunate for her that she had the first call, he may not have been so truthful tbh but she called the shots. Was surprised at Natalie being hurt at the twins nominating her, Natalie nominated them so what was the difference? A lot of hypocricy in the house methinks.

[chuff me dizzy]

Michael has grown on me but I think he over-stepped the mark tonight.... I know he has said similar things in the diary room...but that was brutal.
Denise has been desperate to be his friend...too desperate after a drink or two...but no way did she deserve that tonight.... I really felt for her.

Unless Michael can retrieve the situation then I think he will have caused himself more harm than good!!!

Totally disgusting a vile object he showed himself to be, his true colours shone through

[chuff me dizzy]

I think Michael has just given Denise more public votes.

If people on here think the british public will save him over Denise they have a shock coming

[rogerb]

[QUOTE=rusticgal;4887161]Michael has grown on me but I think he over-stepped the mark tonight.... I know he has said similar things in the diary room...but that was brutal.
Denise has been desperate to be his friend...too desperate after a drink or two...but no way did she deserve that tonight.... I really felt for her.

Unless Michael can retrieve the situation then I think he will have caused himself more harm than good!!![/QUOT
michael is the only hosemate that told it like he would have in the diary room.
the incinsere, 'oh im voting for yoy but i love you. is hypocasy, or just plain lying.
he is not my favourite hosemate, but at least he told the truth.

[Beso]

some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hes playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.

If she just left him alone like he has asked he wouldn't need to be so blunt with her though..

[Roy Mars III]

If people on here think the british public will save him over Denise they have a shock coming

If you think the public will take Denise's side, you are wrong

[Patricia4]

I will save him over Denise and Im sure there is alot more that wiil.
I agree with his comment say what you feel good on him.

[Jules2]

I will save him over Denise and Im sure there is alot more that wiil.
I agree with his comment say what you feel good on him.

I will vote for him as well tbh but I think that a lot of people will see the difference culturally. Not a lot like the thought of an outsider winning and therefore they will go for the one whom they think is underdog, Denise. It wont matter that he has been the underdog with her antics, right from the beginning, it wont matter that she has made it unbearable for him in the house. It wont matter that he dared to stand up for himself.....they wont see the obvious, he has spoken and now many deem him as the bully. Oh dear how many times have we seen this happen over the years, how dare the men have a say.......Michael to win.,

[Livia]

All these people are in show business. It's a brutal world. If they can't handle a little criticism then really, they should have someone twirl them in bubble wrap and then never leave the house.

[Cherie]

All these people are in show business. It's a brutal world. If they can't handle a little criticism then really, they should have someone twirl them in bubble wrap and then never leave the house.

Isn't this what Denise does for a day job on loose women....make judgements...? Madsen has had her at close quarters for nearly 2 weeks now, I think he at least is qualified to make a judgement...:devil:

[Jake.]

If you think the public will take Denise's side, you are wrong

Denise would be saved any day of the week

[Livia]

Isn't this what Denise does for a day job on loose women....make judgements...? Madsen has had her at close quarters for nearly 2 weeks now, I think he at least is qualified to make a judgement...:devil:

That is a very good point CherieB. Come to think about it - and not that I am a regular viewer - but I've heard that bunch of harridans say some bloody awful things about men on that programme. Now everyone has to tiptoe around Denise in case she gets upset?

[Livia]

Denise would be saved any day of the week

LOL... hilarious.

[Angus]

Denise would be saved any day of the week


:laugh3: Deluded, much? Not everyone watches the trashy "Loose Women" who spend most of their time ridiculing men, commenting on political and social issues about which they don't have a scooby do, and sitting in judgment on all and sundry.

[pixee]

I don't understand why it matters.

So does it make any difference if they get out and see that you've slagged them off rotten in the diary room? Is that better?

[craigie2405]

I think what he done to that poor woman was disgusting. That really really hurt Denise, I wanted to give her a big cuddle x

[chuff me dizzy]

I think what he done to that poor woman was disgusting. That really really hurt Denise, I wanted to give her a big cuddle x

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

[Bojangles]

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out


Like he didn't react the night she sat on his bed threatening to smash his face and raising her fist to his face.How he held back I'll never know.

[MrWong]

I prefered his nom of Denise last week

She’s a pretentious, incomprehensible, drunken b****h!”

[spitfire]

He only told the truth better than all this, "I talk to you the least" rubbish. Any one got a link so I can view it again, thanks

[MrWong]

She was the bigger person by not reacting like he wanted her to do, just as when he put her coat on to wind her up, she ate him up and spat him out

:conf:

When did that happen?

[boomoo]

some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hes playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.

If he is treating her badly why does she keep going back for more. She is pestering him. If he was doing that to her he would be told off.

[Roy Mars III]

Denise would be saved any day of the week

No she won't. She'll leave before Michael does for sure

[Truth Teller]

I am copying this post from a poster on DS. It is a very truthful personal view of the emotional issues Denise has and maybe some forum members will cut Michael some slack about his comment last night:

denise... depression... ENOUGH

"I've had a look through the message board and felt compelled to write this.

There's a lot of comments on here relating to denise and her mental health. I've suffered depression the last 9 years, been hospitalised for it etc etc....
As patronising as this may sound to you, it is true; unless you have been through depression, you cannot know what it's like. I'm not going to single out people with quotes, but some of you seem to think it's something to be embarresed about, or that they know the ins and outs of it because a friend of a friend had it, or, more related to BB, that a sufferer should be wrapped in cotton wool despite them feeling well enough to put themselves into such a stressfull experience as BB.

If i applied to go in BB, i would not be allowed in because of my mental health, ~FACT. there's a good reason for this, and the rule shouldn't change because of a celebrity status.

denise suffers depression ~FACT

alchohol is a depressant, you are strongly discouraged from drinking at all by doctors whilst suffering depression, it also stops anti-depressants working,. ~FACT

denise should not be in there in the first place. this is nothing against her. this is just common sense. and the usual BB rules for "normal" people.

and as for the michael madsen comment, saying denise is emotionally disturbed.. guess what? he's right.

denise is emotionally disturbed, same way as i'm emotionally disturbed. quoted from the oxford english dictionary: "disturbed: having emotional or mental problems."
denise HAS got emotional/mental problems. that is undisputable. this doesn't mean that i'm slagging her off. having emotional/mental problems isn't something to be ashamed of.
I have heard the word "disturbed" used by doctors, as i assume denise has, and if the story of michael being sectioned is true, he'll have heard it in that context too.

let's say though, that he did say it out of nastiness, it is still the most real, meaningful, wake up call of a sentence denise has heard in there, there was more genuine care in his abrupt comment (I remind you, being disturbed mentally ill etc... is NOT an insult as so many of you seem to think it is) than has been shown to her from the other housemates.

I'm disturbed. I didn't ask for it, i'd rather not have it, but i cope with it as best i can and i'm a proud".

[smudgie]

Very good personal account of someones view on their own depression.

I too have suffered bouts of depression on and off over the past 30 years, starting off with post natal depression. I can put my hand on my heart and assure you now that I do not consider myself disturbed in any way, mentally or emotional.
As Denise is/was not actually suffering from a bout of depression when she went in the house she has as much right as any other housemate to be in there. If she developed depression again whist in there I would hope she woud be given the help she would need and leave the show.
Everyones account of how they cope with depression would probaby not be the same.

[Beso]

Welch also admitted to using cocaine while filming Coronation Street and hitting her husband's head with a lamp shade after a "drink-fuelled row".
Welch confessed that her marriage was nearly ruined because of her mental illness, as well as an affair she had during the midst of her depression. With the help of her former Coronation Street co-star Kevin 'Curly Watts' Kennedy (a recovering alcoholic), she attended Alcoholics Anonymous and suggested that this helped her to end her dependency on alcohol. She claimed that it was the "hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life, but it is also the thing that I'm proudest of. And my mental health is now so much better than it was when I was drinking...I will always have depression—but I'm in control of it now because I've given up drinking". On 29 April 2010 her 320 Page autobiography Pulling Myself Together was published, in which she described how she overcame her problems with alcohol, drugs and depression. It became a best seller in the UK.




I don't think she's fully recovered, maybe bb should step in and take the poor cow out for her own good. The tit show should have been the final straw.

[the truth]

having depression does not excuse a person bullying and abusing a person for weeks,as she has done. period.she must take responsibility for her own actions. BB also should have warned her the night she threatened abused and hit michael

[Ammi]

Welch also admitted to using cocaine while filming Coronation Street and hitting her husband's head with a lamp shade after a "drink-fuelled row".
Welch confessed that her marriage was nearly ruined because of her mental illness, as well as an affair she had during the midst of her depression. With the help of her former Coronation Street co-star Kevin 'Curly Watts' Kennedy (a recovering alcoholic), she attended Alcoholics Anonymous and suggested that this helped her to end her dependency on alcohol. She claimed that it was the "hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life, but it is also the thing that I'm proudest of. And my mental health is now so much better than it was when I was drinking...I will always have depression—but I'm in control of it now because I've given up drinking". On 29 April 2010 her 320 Page autobiography Pulling Myself Together was published, in which she described how she overcame her problems with alcohol, drugs and depression. It became a best seller in the UK.




I don't think she's fully recovered, maybe bb should step in and take the poor cow out for her own good. The tit show should have been the final straw.

....and even though Natalie and Nicola were shocked andmade her get out and covered her up,,,they're still siding with her.....could you imagine that much compassion if Michael had dangled his b*llocks in the jacuzzi with Georgia and the twins in.....

[Livia]

....and even though Natalie and Nicola were shocked andmade her get out and covered her up,,,they're still siding with her.....could you imagine that much compassion if Michael had dangled his b*llocks in the jacuzzi with Georgia and the twins in.....

Oh yeah, I can imagine that.

[Beso]

madsen tbags livia.

[the truth]

....and even though Natalie and Nicola were shocked andmade her get out and covered her up,,,they're still siding with her.....could you imagine that much compassion if Michael had dangled his b*llocks in the jacuzzi with Georgia and the twins in.....

at this stage as he sits there all alone the only american man in the house with all the guns pointed at him from the cowardly cliques...heck maybe I will dangle them...go down in flames....:devil:well he would if it was a tarantino epic

[Livia]

madsen tbags livia.

I wish I could say I was disgusted.

[BB IS ALIVE]

What he said was plain mean end of. She hasn't been mean to him or upset him, what has she done? If he doesn't get her humor that's his problem. The fact that he get's annoyed with her so easily when he is such a prick irritates me.

She should leave him alone and concentrate on the nice people in the house like Natalie and Gareth.

[Livia]

What he said was plain mean end of. She hasn't been mean to him or upset him, what has she done? If he doesn't get her humor that's his problem. The fact that he get's annoyed with her so easily when he is such a prick irritates me.

She should leave him alone and concentrate on the nice people in the house like Natalie and Gareth.

Right. She should leave him alone. But she just can't.

[the truth]

What he said was plain mean end of. She hasn't been mean to him or upset him, what has she done? If he doesn't get her humor that's his problem. The fact that he get's annoyed with her so easily when he is such a prick irritates me.

She should leave him alone and concentrate on the nice people in the house like Natalie and Gareth.

shes hit him ...as she has hit others (according to her book)...shes threatened him...shes verbally abused him day after day after day usually in adrunken rage....shes also lies about him to other housemates and deliberately turned them against him. she also blamed him for all of the arguments in her nomination. everything he has ever said has been 100% honest and done in self defence. apart from that shes been lovely...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

shes hit him ...as she has hit others (according to her book)...shes threatened him...shes verbally abused him day after day after day usually in adrunken rage....shes also lies about him to other housemates and deliberately turned them against him. she also blamed him for all of the arguments in her nomination. everything he has ever said has been 100% honest and done in self defence. apart from that shes been lovely...

She did not hit him :)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What he said was plain mean end of. She hasn't been mean to him or upset him, what has she done? If he doesn't get her humor that's his problem. The fact that he get's annoyed with her so easily when he is such a prick irritates me.

She should leave him alone and concentrate on the nice people in the house like Natalie and Gareth.

The only thing shes really guilty of is being very annoying by trying to hard to get him to like her. She should have given him space and he wouldnt of snapped i reckon.

He was way to harsh last night imo and he did genuinley upset her which wasnt nice to watch.

[the truth]

she did hit him

[daniel-lewis-1985]

she did hit him

No she tried to and he blocked her.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Denise knows that Michael doesn't want to talk to her. Yet she persistently still bugs him. So what does she expect?

[the truth]

No she tried to and he blocked her.

she hit him, get over it. and she hurled threats and abuse his way. I repeat myself as you fail to acknowledge the truth

[daniel-lewis-1985]

she hit him, get over it. and she hurled threats and abuse his way. I repeat myself as you fail to acknowledge the truth

Well lets agree to disagree.

You as previously said thinks she hit him in the face, I saw that her hand did not touch his face and that is "THE TRUTH" as theres video evidence.

Thats my opinion of what happened.

[Tanser_Man]

I have to applaud Michael for being brutally honest amongst a sea of bum garglers!

At least he had the balls to say what he's been saying in the diary room about her and let's be honest, she's been a manipulative house-mate where Michael is concerned. Everything that has gone wrong between them has been blamed on Michael when many times before she has been the instigator.

Ok, so she's been depressed before in her life, how was he supposed to know that? It wasn't a callous thing to say, because he experienced the bad side of Denise, whereas many others haven't.

Hopefully one of the people gossiping (Denise, Nicola or Sonia) will go and break up the monotomy of the house.

[MTVN]

Bottom line is that.. Michael is a legend, and Denise is a disgrace

I'm not that bothered about the rights and wrongs of this particular incident; it's just great entertainment!

[the truth]

I have to applaud Michael for being brutally honest amongst a sea of bum garglers!

At least he had the balls to say what he's been saying in the diary room about her and let's be honest, she's been a manipulative house-mate where Michael is concerned. Everything that has gone wrong between them has been blamed on Michael when many times before she has been the instigator.

Ok, so she's been depressed before in her life, how was he supposed to know that? It wasn't a callous thing to say, because he experienced the bad side of Denise, whereas many others haven't.

Hopefully one of the people gossiping (Denise, Nicola or Sonia) will go and break up the monotomy of the house.

hes also been very forgiving and given her endless second chances...unlike many of the other far far far more ruthless more calculating shallow dishonest lot in the house....friendships? ha ..a few business relationships and magazine deals...but you have to actually be honest to form real friendships...you know the type of relationships where people tell you the truth....sorry but theyre not fully formed human beings

[dyfed]

As she has suffered with mental illness it must have really hurt,it was just a very insensitive comment,he did himself no favours and showed how cruel he could be.

[Tanser_Man]

As she has suffered with mental illness it must have really hurt,it was just a very insensitive comment,he did himself no favours and showed how cruel he could be.

How was he meant to know, with hindsight it's cruel but in reflection of the moment it was totally relevant.

If she come on any stronger to Michael she'd be knees deep.

[HBB1508]

Having watched it back several times he wasn't brutal he was honest and if people don't like that well that's their problem - Denise has done herself no favours - the JD incident she could have just stuck her head round the door and asked if he wanted to come out for a drink then left - not bugged the hell out of Michael - she does need to leave him alone - she knows the score now so just back off and enjoy what time you have left and don't get obsessed.

[the truth]

As she has suffered with mental illness it must have really hurt,it was just a very insensitive comment,he did himself no favours and showed how cruel he could be.

shes the cruel one, shes hit michael , shes bullied , stalked, abused and threatened him for weeks. the bb producers failed to warn her then as they should have , shame on them. also listen to her lies about him as she turns the house against him. she also blamed him totally for all the arguments in her nomination, she apologised to the twins but went to town on hatcheting michaels character. maybe if he cried and got drunk and took his kit off and stalked denise and screamed abuse at her and threatened her you would have more respect for him? crazy

[the truth]

How was he meant to know, with hindsight it's cruel but in reflection of the moment it was totally relevant.

If she come on any stronger to Michael she'd be knees deep.

the truth is never cruel..its the best thing for any situation.
he tried to sugar coat it for weeks, but she wouldnt back off she wouldnt learn at all...so he told her and she still wont stop. reading her book excerpts sounds that she has serious drinking issues and anyone who she abuses has the right to point out to her what she is doing. protect the victim (michael) not the bully (denise) do not let tears of self pity dissuade you...this was exactly the kind of tough love she needed

[dyfed]

How was he meant to know, with hindsight it's cruel but in reflection of the moment it was totally relevant.

If she come on any stronger to Michael she'd be knees deep.
Of cause he knows,she has spoken openly about it on cbb,no that was meant to hurt her.

[the truth]

Of cause he knows,she has spoken openly about it on cbb,no that was meant to hurt her.

why are you more concerned with her cruelty towards him? has she studied him and his dislikes the way you expect him to read up on her?

[dyfed]

why are you more concerned with her cruelty towards him? has she studied him and his dislikes the way you expect him to read up on her?
He didnt have to read up on her..she spoke about it openly in the house.......

[daniel-lewis-1985]

shes the cruel one, shes hit michael , shes bullied , stalked, abused and threatened him for weeks. the bb producers failed to warn her then as they should have , shame on them. also listen to her lies about him as she turns the house against him. she also blamed him totally for all the arguments in her nomination, she apologised to the twins but went to town on hatcheting michaels character. maybe if he cried and got drunk and took his kit off and stalked denise and screamed abuse at her and threatened her you would have more respect for him? crazy

Erm she didnt blame Michael entirely for the arguing AT ALL!! Michael however blamed her for everything in his nomination.

Watch this video please because what you post does not even match what actually happened.

It was also very very insensitive to call someone with depression emotionally disturbed.

Heres the video of thenominations: She did not blame him for everything if anything shes doing it for the good of the house as the arguments are causing an atmosphere.

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[Tanser_Man]

I've seen the video and you could take it either way.

Yes she didn't say alot wrong to him but he has more wrong to say so.... of course he could have and did!!!

[the truth]

michael says the truth....in the week of the legendary muhammad alis birthday heres one of his poems about truth , it relates well to the BB house

TRUTH

The face of truth is open,
The eyes of truth are bright,
The lips of truth are ever closed,
The head of truth is upright.

The breast of truth stands forward,
The gaze of truth is straight,
Truth has neither fear nor doubt,
Truth has patience to wait.

The words of truth are touching,
The voice of truth is deep,
The law of truth is simple:
All that you sow you reap.

The soul of truth is flaming,
The heart of truth is warm,
The mind of truth is clear,
And firm through rain or storm.

Facts are but its shadows,
Truth stands above all sin;
Great be the battle in life,
Truth in the end shall win.

The image of truth is Christ,
Wisdom's message its rod;
Sign of truth is the cross,
Soul of truth is God.

Life of truth is eternal,
Immortal is its past,
Power of truth will endure,
Truth shall hold to the last.

[dyfed]

Erm she didnt blame Michael entirely for the arguing AT ALL!! Michael however blamed her for everything in his nomination.

Watch this video please because what you post does not even match what actually happened.

It was also very very insensitive to call someone with depression an emotional wreck

Heres the video of thenominations: She did not blame him for everything if anything shes doing it for the good of the house as the arguments are causing an atmosphere.

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Some don't want to know "THE TRUTH" even if you show them.....

[the truth]

He didnt have to read up on her..she spoke about it openly in the house.......

hes not in there to psycho analyse her...the BB producers should have taken care of that situation when she was drunkenly abusing michael in the first place

[the truth]

Some don't want to know "THE TRUTH" even if you show them.....

sad. you didnt even take time to read the poem. I on the other hand have seen the video umpteen times

[daniel-lewis-1985]

sad. you didnt even take time to read the poem. I on the other hand have seen the video umpteen times

Well if you have seen the video you would see Denise DID NOT blame Michael for everything in her nomination but he did with her. Denise said SHE rubs HIM up the wrong way so she took responsibility there.

You said she blamed him for everything when that didnt happen so if you have seen the video i dont understand why you would post something which is not true and can be proven to be incorrect by watching that video.

Im baffled :conf:

[dyfed]

Well if you have seen the video you would see Denise DID NOT blame Michael for everything in her nomination but he did with her.

You said she blamed him for everything when that didnt happen so if you have seen the video i dont understand why you would post something which is not true and can be proven to be incorrect by watching that video.

Im baffled :conf:
Me too.:conf::conf::conf:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Michaels coming accross badly in regards to the arguments with Georgia and Denise tonight but i did actually respect him for thinking of his career outside the house and not doing a George Galloway lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Erm she didnt blame Michael entirely for the arguing AT ALL!! Michael however blamed her for everything in his nomination.

Watch this video please because what you post does not even match what actually happened.

It was also very very insensitive to call someone with depression emotionally disturbed.

Heres the video of thenominations: She did not blame him for everything if anything shes doing it for the good of the house as the arguments are causing an atmosphere.

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A MAN of principles, so refreshing Daniel

[chuff me dizzy]

Michaels coming accross badly in regards to the arguments with Georgia and Denise tonight but i did actually respect him for thinking of his career outside the house and not doing a George Galloway lol

What respect does he deserve? none whatsoever, I pity his poor wife

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What respect does he deserve? none whatsoever, I pity his poor wife

I respected him for not intentionally wanting to make a fool out of himself on tv for the sake of his kids and his career but he has unintentionally made himself look bad aswell.

[chuff me dizzy]

I respected him for not intentionally wanting to make a fool out of himself on tv for the sake of his kids and his career but he has unintentionally made himself look bad aswell.

He showed his true colours, and Thank God it cost him winning CBB

[WATERS]

Michael is already the winner of this competition.

[chuff me dizzy]

Michael is already the winner of this competition.

In your dreams

[WATERS]

You must have mental health problems to think otherwise.

[sl3ptsolong]

I feel this is the bigger picture. Michael has stood up infront of the people he has been living with and has emotional attachments with and not to mention the whole of the UK and called her 'mentally disturbed'. Michael is seriously detached from reality if he thinks this is ok in context. He complains about people whispering behind peoples backs but in the whole of the show nobody has said anything as bad as that.... and it wasnt even behind her back! How can you recover any relationship with actions like that? No wonder wars start with people like Michael around.

Michaels character is a one man army so I can understand why he has such a narrow mindset. He just sits and thinks by himself conjuring up what he thinks is happening. Most people have friends to talk to and discuss things which creates emotional attachments and bonding. Michael rarely interacts like this and has therefore created social suicide in the house.

[the truth]

I feel this is the bigger picture. Michael has stood up infront of the people he has been living with and has emotional attachments with and not to mention the whole of the UK and called her 'mentally disturbed'. Michael is seriously detached from reality if he thinks this is ok in context. He complains about people whispering behind peoples backs but in the whole of the show nobody has said anything as bad as that.... and it wasnt even behind her back! How can you recover any relationship with actions like that? No wonder wars start with people like Michael around.

Michaels character is a one man army so I can understand why he has such a narrow mindset. He just sits and thinks by himself conjuring up what he thinks is happening. Most people have friends to talk to and discuss things which creates emotional attachments and bonding. Michael rarely interacts like this and has therefore created social suicide in the house.

he did not say mentally he said emotionaally, so start again

[Jake.]

Calling someone who suffers with depression emotionally disturbed is a no go. And TheTruth, some of the things you said in your post at the top of the page were not true (such as Denise pinning the argument fully on Michael) so why dont YOU start again?

[Angus]

Calling someone who suffers with depression emotionally disturbed is a no go. And TheTruth, some of the things you said in your post at the top of the page were not true (such as Denise pinning the argument fully on Michael) so why dont YOU start again?

Michael is also someone who suffers with depression, is a recovering alcoholic and has battled with his own demons for years. In this sadly politically correct country we now live in we are not allowed to speak the truth for fear of "offending" someone, somewhere. In America they still believe in the right to speak the truth and Michael did not say anything that was slanderous or untrue. I am totally baffled by the outcry. Denise KNOWS she is emotionally disturbed - we KNOW she is emotionally disturbed, her family and friends KNOW she is emotionally disturbed, so what's the big secret. It's precisely because of ridiculous OTT reactions to the voicing of a truth that such issues are swept under the carpet, and talked about in hushed tones. All that attitude does is stigmatise the issue and stifle proper debate.

Denise needs to wake up and smell the coffee, get herself some help, and get her life sorted out. She has come on CBB and showed us that she is indeed emotionally disturbed, and to be fair to her, she should never have been allowed on the show in the first place. It's not as if she hasn't ample past form to alert the producers to her problems, but all they were interested in was car crash tv. I hope they're proud of themselves, having effectively made Denise a) a figure of pity and scorn and b) a laughing stock.

As for the impact she has had on Michael's experience on the show, I believe she has completely ruined it and stifled him as a HM. The guy has his own emotional baggage and does not need to be in a house with someone who at 53 years of age has still not learnt to deal with her problems. Michael has, but I get the sense he has to do it on a daily basis, and having some old soak constantly in his face, reminding him of how it could be with him if he didn't work on it every minute, is not fair to him either.

What I find the most despicable about the whole situation is the way that Denise has manipulated the house to turn against Michael, since they are clearly unaware of all the occasions she has hunted him down, and confronted him one on one (no audience), then carefully fed the house her edited version of events in which Michael is always the monster. Having successfully wound him up privately, he of course will be grumpy, annoyed and snap at her, so she can then turn to the others, bat her eyelids, squeeze out some tears and say "I don't know what I've done"..."why doesn't he like me"....."I don't know why he's being so mean to me.....". blah, blah.

Michael is totally right about Denise - she is severely emotionally disturbed and if people don't want to hear that, then tough. I feel sorry for her actually because people constantly being in denial on her behalf are enabling her to continue on her path to self destruction, as she conveniently assumes that her actions are acceptable to them. It's totally wrong to crucify Michael for pointing out what her nearest and dearest should have a long, long time ago.

[MrWong]

Well if you have seen the video you would see Denise DID NOT blame Michael for everything in her nomination but he did with her. Denise said SHE rubs HIM up the wrong way so she took responsibility there.

You said she blamed him for everything when that didnt happen so if you have seen the video i dont understand why you would post something which is not true and can be proven to be incorrect by watching that video.

Im baffled :conf:

It's only recently that Denise has taken some of the blame. Before this she was laying the blame on Michael. The two times she woke him from sleeping she had asked the other housemates to leave the room so they weren't witness to her drunken, aggressive behaviour, threats to hit and the pathetic challenge on who's the better actor.

It's only in the last few days that he's retaliated, after over a week of constant drunken badgering.

[MrWong]

Michael is also someone who suffers with depression, is a recovering alcoholic and has battled with his own demons for years. In this sadly politically correct country we now live in we are not allowed to speak the truth for fear of "offending" someone, somewhere. In America they still believe in the right to speak the truth and Michael did not say anything that was slanderous or untrue. I am totally baffled by the outcry. Denise KNOWS she is emotionally disturbed - we KNOW she is emotionally disturbed, her family and friends KNOW she is emotionally disturbed, so what's the big secret. It's precisely because of ridiculous OTT reactions to the voicing of a truth that such issues are swept under the carpet, and talked about in hushed tones. All that attitude does is stigmatise the issue and stifle proper debate.

Denise needs to wake up and smell the coffee, get herself some help, and get her life sorted out. She has come on CBB and showed us that she is indeed emotionally disturbed, and to be fair to her, she should never have been allowed on the show in the first place. It's not as if she hasn't ample past form to alert the producers to her problems, but all they were interested in was car crash tv. I hope they're proud of themselves, having effectively made Denise a) a figure of pity and scorn and b) a laughing stock.

As for the impact she has had on Michael's experience on the show, I believe she has completely ruined it and stifled him as a HM. The guy has his own emotional baggage and does not need to be in a house with someone who at 53 years of age has still not learnt to deal with her problems. Michael has, but I get the sense he has to do it on a daily basis, and having some old soak constantly in his face, reminding him of how it could be with him if he didn't work on it every minute, is not fair to him either.

What I find the most despicable about the whole situation is the way that Denise has manipulated the house to turn against Michael, since they are clearly unaware of all the occasions she has hunted him down, and confronted him one on one (no audience), then carefully fed the house her edited version of events in which Michael is always the monster. Having successfully wound him up privately, he of course will be grumpy, annoyed and snap at her, so she can then turn to the others, bat her eyelids, squeeze out some tears and say "I don't know what I've done"..."why doesn't he like me"....."I don't know why he's being so mean to me.....". blah, blah.

Michael is totally right about Denise - she is severely emotionally disturbed and if people don't want to hear that, then tough. I feel sorry for her actually because people constantly being in denial on her behalf are enabling her to continue on her path to self destruction, as she conveniently assumes that her actions are acceptable to them. It's totally wrong to crucify Michael for pointing out what her nearest and dearest should have a long, long time ago.

Agree with this post, especially the part in bold.

[scary-mary]

Cannot stand Denise. She is a disgrace. Keep telling it how it is Michael !
( Dislike Natalie as well)

[Livia]

Michael is also someone who suffers with depression, is a recovering alcoholic and has battled with his own demons for years. In this sadly politically correct country we now live in we are not allowed to speak the truth for fear of "offending" someone, somewhere.. etc. etc. etc.

Great post Angus, agree completely.

[dyfed]

Why did Michael snap at Georgia, all she said was she was going to get dressed???,that alone shows he is unstable.
He feels he's too good to dress up in a white costume.....didnt want to lose his dignity in front of his children,a bit late for that...this is the man who borrows millions from friends and doesn't pay it back,this is the man who owed thousands in alimony,this is the man who has been so drunk with drugs and alcohol,this is the man who has been arrested and put on a suicide watch a number of times,believe me in America he is very much a B class actor,he is so full of his own self importance it is laughable....

[Kazanne]

Calling someone who suffers with depression emotionally disturbed is a no go. And TheTruth, some of the things you said in your post at the top of the page were not true (such as Denise pinning the argument fully on Michael) so why dont YOU start again?

Do you think Michael actually knew of Denises background with depression? I doubt it and Michael HAS said he was wrong to word it that way.

[Livia]

Why did Michael snap at Georgia, all she said was she was going to get dressed???,that alone shows he is unstable.
He feels he's too good to dress up in a white costume.....didnt want to lose his dignity in front of his children,a bit late for that...this is the man who borrows millions from friends and doesn't pay it back,this is the man who owed thousands in alimony,this is the man who has been so drunk with drugs and alcohol,this is the man who has been arrested and put on a suicide watch a number of times,believe me in America he is very much a B class actor,he is so full of his own self importance it is laughable....

As is your desperate post.

To some of us he's a movie legend, and he's popular with most of our American members. You're very much in the minority. Nice try though.

[joeysteele]

Yes definately, Angus has made some outsanding posts on this issue, I still think Michael could have left much of his reasons for nominating Denise to be done just with her face to face rather than in front of everyone but I got it well wrong, I was told he had said mentally disturbed rather than emotionally, to me there is a massive difference in those 2 terms.

I don't understand why he seeks her out at times though,like the coat incident and sitting by the pool with her, they clearly have had really good conversataions at times.

As in all things both likely have to share a big part of the blame for annoying each other and really they'd be best keeping their distance and just engaging in passing courtesies.
It must be ruining their BB experiences for them going on as they are, surely these 2 adults can set a better example than this,both of them I mean too.

[joeysteele]

Do you think Michael actually knew of Denises background with depression? I doubt it and Michael HAS said he was wrong to word it that way.

I give him full credit for saying he was wrong too. I like Michael and now hope this hasn't damaged his standing in the house but he has as you say said he was wrong to say it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Why did Michael snap at Georgia, all she said was she was going to get dressed???,that alone shows he is unstable.
He feels he's too good to dress up in a white costume.....didnt want to lose his dignity in front of his children,a bit late for that...this is the man who borrows millions from friends and doesn't pay it back,this is the man who owed thousands in alimony,this is the man who has been so drunk with drugs and alcohol,this is the man who has been arrested and put on a suicide watch a number of times,believe me in America he is very much a B class actor,he is so full of his own self importance it is laughable....

He lost his dignity in the house the very first time he turned on a woman ,how dare he slate Denise with the way hes already let his sons down total ,spineless ,useless flabby blob

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes definately, Angus has made some outsanding posts on this issue, I still think Michael could have left much of his reasons for nominating Denise to be done just with her face to face rather than in front of everyone but I got it well wrong, I was told he had said mentally disturbed rather than emotionally, to me there is a massive difference in those 2 terms.

I don't understand why he seeks her out at times though,like the coat incident and sitting by the pool with her, they clearly have had really good conversataions at times.

As in all things both likely have to share a big part of the blame for annoying each other and really they'd be best keeping their distance and just engaging in passing courtesies.
It must be ruining their BB experiences for them going on as they are, surely these 2 adults can set a better example than this,both of them I mean too.

The coat incident backfired on him ,he wanted her to react ,just as he did at nominations,but she made him look an inch tall by NOT reacting ,Well done Denise !!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Do you think Michael actually knew of Denises background with depression? I doubt it and Michael HAS said he was wrong to word it that way.

Denise has spoken openly in the house about her depression

[dyfed]

As is your desperate post.

To some of us he's a movie legend, and he's popular with most of our American members. You're very much in the minority. Nice try though.
Why get so personal,sorry you thought it a "desperate" post, chill out,cool down....

[Livia]

Denise has spoken openly in the house about her depression

Yes, she's banged on and on about it because she thinks everyone's interested in the boring minutiae of her life. Michael never has spoken about his own struggle with depression. Funny that, how one uses it as an excuse and one doesn't.

[Livia]

Why get so personal,sorry you thought it a "desperate" post, chill out,cool down....

I'm perfectly chilled thank you. Take a little of your own advice.

[rusticgal]

Yes, she's banged on and on about it because she thinks everyone's interested in the boring minutiae of her life. Michael never has spoken about his own struggle with depression. Funny that, how one uses it as an excuse and one doesn't.


Well at least Denise is capable of making conversation.... Michael offers very little on that score...all he seems to do is wind everyone up.

[chuff me dizzy]

Well at least Denise is capable of making conversation.... Michael offers very little on that score...all he seems to do is wind everyone up.

Dont forget he talks to the cameras !! mind you,hes happy doing that as they cannot answer back, he doesnt like anyone answering him, hes a true bully only his opinion counts

[chuff me dizzy]

Well at least Denise is capable of making conversation.... Michael offers very little on that score...all he seems to do is wind everyone up.

Its clear from the hm8s who are living in there day to day,who the wrong one is, none of them have nominated Denise and blamed her

[Niamh.]

The coat incident backfired on him ,he wanted her to react ,just as he did at nominations,but she made him look an inch tall by NOT reacting ,Well done Denise !!!!

What are you talking about? It was clear to everyone in that house -Denise included- that he was trying to make up with her when he did that. Why the hell would anyone be annoyed because someone put their coat on? :conf:

[rusticgal]

Its clear from the hm8s who are living in there day to day,who the wrong one is, none of them have nominated Denise and blamed her

Absolutely.... I agree with you in that Michael cannot handle anyone who has a different opinion to him. Even his wife said when Michael needs space you have to give it to him. It must be like treading eggshells around him. Its also strange that the twins are too scared to stand up to him...they leapt on Kirk in Georgias defence in the boat...but said nothing when Michael turned on Georgia for no reason at all!!!
Cannot stand the twins either...

[MrWong]

Its clear from the hm8s who are living in there day to day,who the wrong one is, none of them have nominated Denise and blamed her

What a shame that it's not clear to you why they've taken sides.

Ever thought that it's because Denise relays a very twisted version of events to the other housemates when she's sobered up? That when she's sh!tfaced, verbally attacking him and threatening to hit him, it's after she's asked people to leave the room? Come on, all this happened very recently, you can't have forgotten.

Denise' defenders have very selective memories :whistle:

[chuff me dizzy]

Absolutely.... I agree with you in that Michael cannot handle anyone who has a different opinion to him. Even his wife said when Michael needs space you have to give it to him. It must be like treading eggshells around him. Its also strange that the twins are too scared to stand up to him...they leapt on Kirk in Georgias defence in the boat...but said nothing when Michael turned on Georgia for no reason at all!!!
Cannot stand the twins either...

I hate twins too ,too up themselves ,to say they are nothing but prostitutes who let dirty old men paw them they have a big opinion of themselves,Michael has to have his say (to women NEVER men) then shouts the woman down so she cannot answer,then runs off telling people hes been picked on ,clearly neither of the yanks not liked by fellow hm8s,as nominations proved

[chuff me dizzy]

What a shame that it's not clear to you why they've taken sides.

Ever thought that it's because Denise relays a very twisted version of events to the other housemates when she's sobered up? That when she's sh!tfaced, verbally attacking him and threatening to hit him, it's after she's asked people to leave the room? Come on, all this happened very recently, you can't have forgotten.

Denise' defenders have very selective memories :whistle:

Im not a Denise defender, Im against ANY man abusing ANY woman ,he has not only abused Denise, he has abused Georgia too, in her own words hes a bully

[MrWong]

Im not a Denise defender, Im against ANY man abusing ANY woman ,he has not only abused Denise, he has abused Georgia too, in her own words hes a bully

He snapped at Georgia.... That's not bullying.

He's been provoked by Denise since the first week and is now retaliating..... That's not bullying either.

[spitfire]

I hate it when women abuse men. Denise the bully needs to go.

[chuff me dizzy]

He snapped at Georgia.... That's not bullying.

He's been provoked by Denise since the first week and is now retaliating..... That's not bullying either.

Georgia said herself on BBBOTS he is a BULLY

[MrWong]

Georgia said herself on BBBOTS he is a BULLY

Oh well..... If Georgia said it :sleep:

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh well..... If Georgia said it :sleep:

It was Georgia who was being bullied or are you against women thinking for themselves too ?

[MrWong]

It was Georgia who was being bullied or are you against women thinking for themselves too ?

:joker::joker::joker:

Oh wait..... Are you assuming to know my gender because of my choice of username? How silly.

Your reply to my reply doesn't even make sense either. How can you infer that im against women thinking for themselves?

Just because Georgia says it is doesn't automatically mean it is.

The word 'bully' gets thrown around far too casually nowadays and is an insult to real victims of bullying.

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker::joker::joker:

Oh wait..... Are you assuming to know my gender because of my choice of username? How silly.

Your reply to my reply doesn't even make sense either. How can you infer that im against women thinking for themselves?

Just because Georgia says it is doesn't automatically mean it is.

The word 'bully' gets thrown around far too casually nowadays and is an insult to real victims of bullying.

Im assuming nothing to assume you have to be interested

[MrWong]

Im assuming nothing to assume you have to be interested

:conf:

[chuff me dizzy]

Super Dad ,doesnt even pay for his own kids upkeep http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2011/03/13/arrest_warrant_issued_for_michael_mads

[chuff me dizzy]

Parasite owes £ms http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/06/24/michael_madsen_is_4_million_in_debt_owes_1

[chuff me dizzy]

Hollywood legend :joker: cant even pay his rent http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/10/28/michael_madsen_owes_80_000_in_rent_

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Hollywood legend :joker: cant even pay his rent http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/10/28/michael_madsen_owes_80_000_in_rent_

This is common knowledge.

I thought everyone knew he was doing BB to pay off debts.

[billy123]

Super Dad ,doesnt even pay for his own kids upkeep http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2011/03/13/arrest_warrant_issued_for_michael_mads

Parasite owes £ms http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/06/24/michael_madsen_is_4_million_in_debt_owes_1

Hollywood legend :joker: cant even pay his rent http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/10/28/michael_madsen_owes_80_000_in_rent_Denise? is that you?
Get well soon. :(

[daniel-lewis-1985]

He only earns $3,392 a month and he has to pay off all that debt?!?!

Hes screwed

[daniel-lewis-1985]

He was also arrested last year

http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/13/michael-madsen-arrest-warrant/

[Allysa81]

I'm sorry she just wants to be his firend, if i were her i would have given up though as he's been a complete jerk from what i've seen

[Bojangles]

Well lets agree to disagree.

You as previously said thinks she hit him in the face, I saw that her hand did not touch his face and that is "THE TRUTH" as theres video evidence.

Thats my opinion of what happened.


actually her hand did make contact and he brought his head back.The look in his eyes was very telling indeed.
He prefers to stay out of her way when she's drinking as he is fully aware she could get violent owards him.
There are 3 types of drunk,those that want to go to sleep, those that love evryone and those that get violent.WHICH OF HOSE HREE DO OU SUPPOSE DENISE IS?

[chuff me dizzy]

This is common knowledge.

I thought everyone knew he was doing BB to pay off debts.

But according to his fans hes an A list Hollywood legend, hes a broke drunk/druggy hasbeen more like who doesnt pay to keep his kids

[chuff me dizzy]

He only earns $3,392 a month and he has to pay off all that debt?!?!

Hes screwed

Yes an A list Hollywood legend on same pay as a train driver :joker::joker:

[Bojangles]

actually her hand did make contact and he brought his head back.The look in his eyes was very telling indeed.
He prefers to stay out of her way when she's drinking as he is fully aware she could get violent owards him.
There are 3 types of drunk,those that want to go to sleep, those that love evryone and those that get violent.WHICH OF THOSE THREE DO YOU SUPPOSE DENISE IS?


My keyboard has gone mad mad I tell you.Some keys are working whilst others are not,seems to be working now.

[Livia]

I don't know which would be the most sad... owing lots of money, or believing everything you read on the Internet. Actually... I'm going for the latter.

[Bojangles]

I don't know which would be the most sad... owing lots of money, or believing everything you read on the Internet. Actually... I'm going for the latter.


I'll join you on that.

[dyfed]

What are you talking about? It was clear to everyone in that house -Denise included- that he was trying to make up with her when he did that. Why the hell would anyone be annoyed because someone put their coat on? :conf:
Like Denise said,if she had put his pyjames on he would have hit the roof,he is a bully towards women.

[dyfed]

But according to his fans hes an A list Hollywood legend, hes a broke drunk/druggy hasbeen more like who doesnt pay to keep his kids
So true....

[chuff me dizzy]

Like Denise said,if she had put his pyjames on he would have hit the roof,he is a bully towards women.

Well said ,He put her coat on hoping she would kick off and it backfired on him

[dyfed]

He was also arrested last year

http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/13/michael-madsen-arrest-warrant/
And he has the nerve to talk about the other HM with his higher then mighty attitude...

[Beso]

He was also arrested last year

http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/13/michael-madsen-arrest-warrant/

No he wasn't..it says nothing about him being arrested.

[Beso]

he's at large...how cool is that...

[chuff me dizzy]

and he has the nerve to talk about the other hm with his higher then mighty attitude...

exactly !!!

[G1dds]

Madsen a woman abusing bully? really?? :laugh2: :crazy:

Some people clearly have some major hang ups. Why can't it just be enough that he doesn't like Denise? Why must he be a woman abuser?? Its ridiculous some of these threads I've read through :conf:

Everyone jumping on what he said, when she has pushed her career on by stating she is all those things Madsen accused her of :idc:

If he is what people are squealing on about, then so must I be as I can tell you now, I would NOT tolerate Denise drunk (and barely when she's sober!) :hmph:

[chuff me dizzy]

Madsen a woman abusing bully? really?? :laugh2: :crazy:

Some people clearly have some major hang ups. Why can't it just be enough that he doesn't like Denise? Why must he be a woman abuser?? Its ridiculous some of these threads I've read through :conf:

Everyone jumping on what he said, when she has pushed her career on by stating she is all those things Madsen accused her of :idc:

If he is what people are squealing on about, then so must I be as I can tell you now, I would NOT tolerate Denise drunk (and barely when she's sober!) :hmph:
Whats your excuse for him abusing Georgia?

[G1dds]

Abused Georgia? seriously? :conf:

Well from what I saw on the "edited version" - (perhaps you see it all live and are standing behind the one way glass so are aware of more than I am) Madsen asked why she was talking about what to wear and when she replied "er to look nice", he took offence. Its how he interpreted it, that she was being sarky and lets be honest, we've all done it

but does that make him a woman hater? an abuser? a bully? no of course not. :nono:

[chuff me dizzy]

Abused Gergia? seriously? :conf:

Well from what I saw on the "edited version" - (perhaps you see it all live and are standing behind the one way glass so are aware of more than I am) Madsen asked why she was talking about what to wear and when she replied "er to look nice", he took offence. Its how he interpreted it, that she was being sarky and lets be honest, we've all done it

but does that make him a woman hater? an abuser? a bully? no of course not. :nono:

Georgia called him a bully and Im sure she knows ,she lived with him for nearly 3 weeks :sleep:

[Cherie]

Georgia called him a bully and Im sure she knows ,she lived with him for nearly 3 weeks :sleep:

She only called him a bully, after she saw his reason for nominating her...that she bored him to death, she was bound to be a little peeved.:joker:

oh and she lived with him for 13 days actually, which is nearly two weeks in my book.:devil:

[G1dds]

oh well if Georgia says that, then I stand corrected because her opinion must be the truth:joker:

[Tanser_Man]

I would hardly call it abuse, he overheard her and the twins slagging him off and then eventually, he had a go at her.

Why are you digging up links about someone's past? Ahh yes, lets rejoice in peoples misfortunes because that is the moral thing to do to win an argument.

Seriously, sometimes people can be dense.

[RodHull]

She's a drunken ****ing mess who has harassed him all series and made him feel like **** at every possibly chance, she's a joke and I'd have said much worse.

Same here!

some pepole are thick the way mike has crushed denise is really bad its mental mind fook hes playing with her, ive kept me mouth shut about it on this forum cause it makes me mad and ill say somthing bad and end up getting banned but come on anyone with half a brain should see how mikes treating denise and its not nice its vile.

She has head ****ed him since day 1, he has warned her repeatedly to keep away from him... she totally deserved everything she got.

[Jules2]

He lost his dignity in the house the very first time he turned on a woman ,how dare he slate Denise with the way hes already let his sons down total ,spineless ,useless flabby blob

How dare he eh!! It doesnt matter that Denise has hounded him from day one and made so much trouble for him with the other HMs, no, how dare he stand up for himself!!! LOL gotta laugh tbh. If he hates woman why is he talking to Nicola and Natalie before she was evicted. It is Denise he has trouble with and no wonder the way she acts.

[dyfed]

I don't think he should be in there,he has no idea how to live with people in that environment,he is constantly on his own pacing up and down,he is way out of his depth,he looks like he is ready to crack....

[MrWong]

How dare he eh!! It doesnt matter that Denise has hounded him from day one and made so much trouble for him with the other HMs, no, how dare he stand up for himself!!! LOL gotta laugh tbh. If he hates woman why is he talking to Nicola and Natalie before she was evicted. It is Denise he has trouble with and no wonder the way she acts.

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[Vanessa]

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:joker::joker::joker::joker::laugh3::laugh3::

[Jules2]

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Where are you? :dance::joker:

[Lozzibear]

I don't know how anyone can defend what he said... No matter what Denise has, or has not done, does not mean she deserves that. People may think something, and people may say it is 'being truthful', but what really shows a persons character is how they conduct themselves. He could have said his feeling in a much more appropriate way than what he did, and my opinion of him went WAY down after that. Denise handled it extremely well, and I don't know if I could have handled it as well.

Yes, she has annoyed him but I don't think she has ever tried to annoy him, or make him angry intentionally... Actually, I think quite the opposite... I think she has been too desperate to be friends with him, is that always a bad thing? No, I don't think it is... I just don't think his personality suits her way. Even Natalie came out and said that he blows hot and cold... when people do that, I find it extremely hard to know where I stand, and when certain things are appropriate and when they are not. Heck, my OH blows hot and cold... sometimes I can make a joke and get a laugh, other times I can make a similar joke and he is a right crabby b******!

I didn't particularly like him before he said that, but I can't stand him now! Before, the only time he was marginally entertaining is when he is with Denise! He barely does anything else, except moan and groan and sleep!

The fact that two weeks in a row, he has received a high number of nominations (I think 6 this week, and a similar number last week)... and she has only received nominations from him... should say what the other housemates opinions are.

I won't even start on the drink issue, because I don't like alcohol. I think something that can change a person so drastically, and make them do things that they never normally would, should be controlled strictly... If drugs are illegal, then IMO so should alcohol... but, that is a different issue entirely! lol. Oh, I just want to add that when I turned 18, I drank A LOT... and I thankfully, don't become a nasty/annoying etc person when drunk... but I don't like the feeling of being drunk, of not being in control and sometimes not remembering the night before, so now I am tee total... and I am only 22! LOL, the number of times I have been called a freak because of that... just shows the unfortunate culture we live in... anyway, I digress... Like I said, another issue entirely.

I do think Denise should stay away from drink, but I think a high proportion of drinkers become like her when they drink, and very few actually stay away from it (my comments and opinions are based of the people I know, and see around).

[MrWong]

I don't know how anyone can defend what he said... No matter what Denise has, or has not done, does not mean she deserves that. People may think something, and people may say it is 'being truthful', but what really shows a persons character is how they conduct themselves. He could have said his feeling in a much more appropriate way than what he did, and my opinion of him went WAY down after that. Denise handled it extremely well, and I don't know if I could have handled it as well.

Yes, she has annoyed him but I don't think she has ever tried to annoy him, or make him angry intentionally... Actually, I think quite the opposite... I think she has been too desperate to be friends with him, is that always a bad thing? No, I don't think it is... I just don't think his personality suits her way. Even Natalie came out and said that he blows hot and cold... when people do that, I find it extremely hard to know where I stand, and when certain things are appropriate and when they are not. Heck, my OH blows hot and cold... sometimes I can make a joke and get a laugh, other times I can make a similar joke and he is a right crabby b******!

I didn't particularly like him before he said that, but I can't stand him now! Before, the only time he was marginally entertaining is when he is with Denise! He barely does anything else, except moan and groan and sleep!

The fact that two weeks in a row, he has received a high number of nominations (I think 6 this week, and a similar number last week)... and she has only received nominations from him... should say what the other housemates opinions are.

She hounded him with her ridiculous drunken antics and was quite aggressive. If she was really desperate to be Michaels mate then why did she always relay a twisted version of their encounters to her mates?

People who defend Denise overlook her provocation of Michael and ignore her warped relaying of events to gain sympathy.

[erinp5]

What Michael said she needed to hear .

[chuff me dizzy]

The vile Yank has finally lost the plot, hes deranged "Straight jacket for Madsen"

[Pyramid*]

The vile Yank has finally lost the plot, hes deranged "Straight jacket for Madsen"

Yet the tabloids today are saying that Denise is the one on the verge of cracking up...... I think you might want to hold off on giving Michael one of those jackets and keep it handly for the McCanns supporter Denise. She's in dire need of it if any of the reports are to be believed.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't think he should be in there,he has no idea how to live with people in that environment,he is constantly on his own pacing up and down,he is way out of his depth,he looks like he is ready to crack....

Last night i was waiting for men in white coats to come running in

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't know how anyone can defend what he said... No matter what Denise has, or has not done, does not mean she deserves that. People may think something, and people may say it is 'being truthful', but what really shows a persons character is how they conduct themselves. He could have said his feeling in a much more appropriate way than what he did, and my opinion of him went WAY down after that. Denise handled it extremely well, and I don't know if I could have handled it as well.

Yes, she has annoyed him but I don't think she has ever tried to annoy him, or make him angry intentionally... Actually, I think quite the opposite... I think she has been too desperate to be friends with him, is that always a bad thing? No, I don't think it is... I just don't think his personality suits her way. Even Natalie came out and said that he blows hot and cold... when people do that, I find it extremely hard to know where I stand, and when certain things are appropriate and when they are not. Heck, my OH blows hot and cold... sometimes I can make a joke and get a laugh, other times I can make a similar joke and he is a right crabby b******!

I didn't particularly like him before he said that, but I can't stand him now! Before, the only time he was marginally entertaining is when he is with Denise! He barely does anything else, except moan and groan and sleep!

The fact that two weeks in a row, he has received a high number of nominations (I think 6 this week, and a similar number last week)... and she has only received nominations from him... should say what the other housemates opinions are.

I won't even start on the drink issue, because I don't like alcohol. I think something that can change a person so drastically, and make them do things that they never normally would, should be controlled strictly... If drugs are illegal, then IMO so should alcohol... but, that is a different issue entirely! lol. Oh, I just want to add that when I turned 18, I drank A LOT... and I thankfully, don't become a nasty/annoying etc person when drunk... but I don't like the feeling of being drunk, of not being in control and sometimes not remembering the night before, so now I am tee total... and I am only 22! LOL, the number of times I have been called a freak because of that... just shows the unfortunate culture we live in... anyway, I digress... Like I said, another issue entirely.

I do think Denise should stay away from drink, but I think a high proportion of drinkers become like her when they drink, and very few actually stay away from it (my comments and opinions are based of the people I know, and see around).

:worship::worship::worship:

[chuff me dizzy]

Yet the tabloids today are saying that Denise is the one on the verge of cracking up...... I think you might want to hold off on giving Michael one of those jackets and keep it handly for the McCanns supporter Denise. She's in dire need of it if any of the reports are to be believed.

Oh right !!! you believe the red tops? :sleep::sleep::sleep:

[MrWong]

Last night i was waiting for men in white coats to come running in

The deluded Richard III look-alike Natalie will be needing men in white coats when she realises, away from the sycophantic arse licking at Elstree, that she wasn't popular at all. :joker: