Thank you and goodbye Michael

[chuff me dizzy]

Well hes really blown the little scrap of a chance of winning CBB tonight and I cannot wait for the boos that await him ,what a dirty,low ,ansty speech he made ,I think the creep is mentally unstable

[Jords]

Vote to save could keep him, I dunno though think hes a goner tbh

[Bojangles]

I don't think so Chuff.

[Bojangles]

So you want Nicola to stay then Chuff?

[joeysteele]

I think he will have lost a lot of support from it definately.

[Locke.]

Thought it was hilarious myself, and from the looks of the polls, so did everyone else

[Black Dagger]

Meh, Denise is a ******* of the highest decorum, she's been horrible to him, I'm glad he put that hag in her place, and her bitch of a friend as well.

He won't go when there is so many up in a vote to save.

[chuff me dizzy]

So you want Nicola to stay then Chuff?

I loathe Nicola ,but will vote to save her to get this lowlife out

[Black Dagger]

Thought it was hilarious myself, and from the looks of the polls, so did everyone else

This, Natalie and Denise thought they did there work getting one of Michael/Twins out on Friday and they failed, morons.

[chuff me dizzy]

Thought it was hilarious myself, and from the looks of the polls, so did everyone else

Shame on them all

[Visage]

I think he will have lost a lot of support from it definately.

I believe this too and if it was just him and the twins up he would have gone.

Now though, I think he will have a bigger fan base than Romeo. Nicola and maybe Kirk.

[Jords]

I dont think anybody who says they found it hilarious actually belly-laughed at it, just tryna play it cool :tongue:

[Samuel.]

I dont think anybody who says they found it hilarious actually belly-laughed at it, just tryna play it cool :tongue:

No.

[reece(:]

moment of the series calling denise unstable, of which she is as well as a wild drunk

[Locke.]

I genuinely laughed. So did my mum and brother.

[joeysteele]

I believe this too and if it was just him and the twins up he would have gone.

Now though, I think he will have a bigger fan base than Romeo. Nicola and maybe Kirk.

Kirks the uncertain one, he could well go, however I know of 15 people already who actually voted heavily for Michael this week but who will now be voting for most others against him this time,
I think Nicola must be favourite to go but if Michael doesn't apologise and retract the mental reference of his comment then he could be in trouble.

I too gave him votes this week but will not be doing so now.I will be voting for some of the more apparant vulnerable others.

[rk3388]

We cant complain about people being to fake and then when someone speaks their mind, hate them. Or else housemates will continue to hold back so that they are liked by the public

[chuff me dizzy]

I genuinely laughed. So did my mum and brother.

And your proud of that ?

[Locke.]

I wouldn't class laughing at something on the TV as something to be proud or not proud about

[Black Dagger]

And your proud of that ?

To be fair, I laughed as well, what've I got to feel bad about? I don't like the woman and thought he was fair in what he said.

[InOne]

Mine was more of a shocked laugh that he'd been so blunt

[Bojangles]

We cant complain about people being to fake and then when someone speaks their mind, hate them. Or else housemates will continue to hold back so that they are liked by the public


Spot on.

[Shaun]

i get a slight impression you aren't a michael fan, chuff. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/indifferent0023.gif

[chuff me dizzy]

To be fair, I laughed as well, what've I got to feel bad about? I don't like the woman and thought he was fair in what he said.

It sickens me ,to think its funny of clever then telling people you laughed ,is disgraceful, speaks volumes

[Samuel.]

And your proud of that ?

:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

i get a slight impression you aren't a michael fan, chuff. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/indifferent0023.gif

Not a Michael or a Denise fan, but HATE bullying and men who think its good to talk to women like he did tonight

[Black Dagger]

It sickens me ,to think its funny of clever then telling people you laughed ,is disgraceful, speaks volumes

So you're telling me I'm this inhumane sicko for laughing at some bitter, nasty woman being put in her place?

God TIBB is amazing.

[MTVN]

I thought it was amazing, everyone's there crying and going on about how hard this is and how they don't think they can do it and then Michael just stands up and bluntly states that Denise is emotionally disturbed :joker:

[lostalex]

michael is the same in the house as he is in the Diary room, and i assume in the outside world as well. It's nice seeing someone being GENUINE and HONEST for once on this show.

[Colbert-Bump]

I wouldn't call him a bully for that but the clip on BBBOTS with Georgia looked worse.

[MTVN]

I wouldn't call him a bully for that but the clip on BBBOTS with Georgia looked worse.

What was that?

[Colbert-Bump]

What was that?

Mr Blonde was bitching about the house to the Twins & Georgia. She made a comment to him & he turned on her in a agressive way, won't do him any favors.

[Monkey Slut]

I didn't see the live feed, was the clip on BOTS the whole thing? If so, I think that some of the comments here are a bit of an overreaction, I don't think what he said was that bad and I wouldn't consider it bullying either.....

[Cheddarcakes]

This thread has made me chuckle.Denise has lost the plot , she pushed Michael over the edge so niceness is done and dusted.Legendary CBB moment!!!!

[Angus]

Well hes really blown the little scrap of a chance of winning CBB tonight and I cannot wait for the boos that await him ,what a dirty,low ,ansty speech he made ,I think the creep is mentally unstable


A tad hypocritical to criticise Michael for speaking the truth about Denise's emotional state, and then to accuse him of being "mentally unstable":idc: Surely if he's "mentally unstable" he is not responsible for his "dirty, low and nasty" speech?

[vortex]

Michael doesn't like the BS and he actually shows it, unlike the other housemates who pretend to care for the people they are nominating like Denisse nominating the twins even when she clearly gets along with them and Kristina was the only one who hugged her after Michael's rant, such a joke.

[BadBoyMcCoy]

I thought it was a bit harsh and could of phrased it nicer but she needs to learn to leave him alone and stop trying to get him to do stuff when he's having his "Michael time".

[Beso]

Well hes really blown the little scrap of a chance of winning CBB tonight and I cannot wait for the boos that await him ,what a dirty,low ,ansty speech he made ,I think the creep is mentally unstable

How can you criticise him for saying that then go on to suggest it about him...makes you look a bit of a hypocrite.

[Roy Mars III]

It was the best moment of the series.

[Suze]

It was the best moment of the series.

Yes it was :D

Love all the Michael threads popping up :laugh2:

[Jake Jacksonville]

gareth should slap him around a bit then we see how tough he is

[Livia]

Yes it was :D

Love all the Michael threads popping up :laugh2:

I wondered how long it'd take for the Michael haters to get back on here. They were very quiet last night. But here we go with the "he's abusing women, all women are victims" bullsh1t.

[chuff me dizzy]

Hes mentally sick ,and for some sad reason thinks hes interesting :crazy:??? deluded or what ? http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbrother-uk/article/Michael-has-a-word-with-himself/

[Livia]

Hes mentally sick ,and for some sad reason thinks hes interesting :crazy:??? deluded or what ? http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbrother-uk/article/Michael-has-a-word-with-himself/

Weren't you the one telling me to put "IMO" after my posts yesterday?

If anyone's sick and deluded it's sad, floppy, "middle-aged teenager" Denise and her unrequited lust for someone who just can't be arsed with her.

I notice the poll still has Michael MILES ahead of Denise. That must sting.

[chuff me dizzy]

Weren't you the one telling me to put "IMO" after my posts yesterday?

If anyone's sick and deluded it's sad, floppy, "middle-aged teenager" Denise and her unrequited lust for someone who just can't be arsed with her.

I notice the poll still has Michael MILES ahead of Denise. That must sting.

How does that sting me? Im no Denise fan :conf: and yes it is IMO and a lot of other opinions too

[Livia]

How does that sting me? Im no Denise fan :conf: and yes it is IMO and a lot of other opinions too

It must sting because he's so well-liked on here and you hate him with such hysteria. You're on every thread, every other post. It's alarming.

[Cynical]

Put me down in the "laughing" group. I found it so funny, i rewound it on skyplus and watched it again. Not only did Madsen hit the nail on the head, the delivery was second to none!

[Angus]

Hes mentally sick ,and for some sad reason thinks hes interesting :crazy:??? deluded or what ? http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbrother-uk/article/Michael-has-a-word-with-himself/

So the very thing you're accusing Michael of, you think it's okay for you to do, ie calling him mentally sick which is nowhere near what Michael actually said:idc: Talk about double standards.

[fitz2k2]

you fail to realize hes best entertainment in the show

[Angus]

you fail to realize hes best entertainment in the show

There would be tumbleweed on this forum if he wasn't in the house:idc:

[MTVN]

So the very thing you're accusing Michael of, you think it's okay for you to do, ie calling him mentally sick which is nowhere near what Michael actually said:idc: Talk about double standards.

Very true :laugh:

[Cherie]

I thought it was amazing, everyone's there crying and going on about how hard this is and how they don't think they can do it and then Michael just stands up and bluntly states that Denise is emotionally disturbed :joker:

:joker: I loved it, and Denise deserved it. Funny how Tim hasn't show up on BOTS or been available by fone...they had to drag in her DOI partner as her "friend"....Michaels wife managed to get on the phone, as did Hugh Heffner..where is Tim...on Mars :joker:

[Livia]

:joker: I loved it, and Denise deserved it. Funny how Tim hasn't show up on BOTS or been available by fone...they had to drag in her DOI partner as her "friend"....Michaels wife managed to get on the phone, as did Hugh Heffner..where is Tim...on Mars :joker:

In hiding.

[ozzyshaggah]

Well hes really blown the little scrap of a chance of winning CBB tonight and I cannot wait for the boos that await him ,what a dirty,low ,ansty speech he made ,I think the creep is mentally unstable

dont agree with much you have to say but on this occasion you summed him up extremely well :dance:

[chuff me dizzy]

dont agree with much you have to say but on this occasion you summed him up extremely well :dance:

I always speak the truth and defend people who need defending

[Black Dagger]

I always speak the truth and defend people who need defending

So accusing Michael Masden of being a woman beater is your way of defending people?

[chuff me dizzy]

So accusing Michael Masden of being a woman beater is your way of defending people?

Please post link to where i called him a woman beater? I called him,and will continue to call him an ABUSER of women and a coward towards men and do you know what? Im right in what I say

[InOne]

Michael is going nowhere, we finally have some deadwood up s it should be a good week.

[Roy Mars III]

Denise and Nicola are going.

[Livia]

Oh I would LOVE it to be Denise and Nicola... Or Denise and Natalie - either or.

[Black Dagger]

Please post link to where i called him a woman beater? I called him,and will continue to call him an ABUSER of women and a coward towards men and do you know what? Im right in what I say

Okay abuser then, same difference, and he's hardly abused Denise, she attacked him drunk one night, continues to bait him and then crys victim when he gives it back to her. And he doesn't need to have arguments with the men, they've done and said nothing to him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Okay abuser then, same difference, and he's hardly abused Denise, she attacked him drunk one night, continues to bait him and then crys victim when he gives it back to her. And he doesn't need to have arguments with the men, they've done and said nothing to him.

Hold on here sunbeam have you forgot he also abused Georgia? What short memory spans Michael fans have

[Black Dagger]

Hold on here sunbeam have you forgot he also abused Georgia? What short memory spans Michael fans have

I didn't see that as abuse... he just had a go at her, it wasn't even THAT bad.

[chuff me dizzy]

I didn't see that as abuse... he just had a go at her, it wasn't even THAT bad.

In your opinion

[Vicky.]

We cant complain about people being to fake and then when someone speaks their mind, hate them. Or else housemates will continue to hold back so that they are liked by the public

This

[Knitting Nana]

When I saw the clip of denise harrassing michael to 'have one last drink' or whatever, I was thinking 'oh just fecking shut up and leave him alone woman!'. After all the previous hoohaa she was STILL doing it.

And then I saw the nominations. To all those saying michael was just being 'honest' (I bet you also used to watch xfactor and love it when simon cowell was 'honest' when he tore people with learning difficulties to shreds in front of all those people), - you should ask yourself - if he genuinely thinks she is 'emotionally unstable' then why would he go out of his way to try to push her over the edge - in front of everyone??

He's made himself look a complete w@nker to any decent-minded person. It was a cheap shot and showed a lack of maturity and integrity (I will admit denise is also lacking in maturity but she didnt do what he did)

[chuff me dizzy]

When I saw the clip of denise harrassing michael to 'have one last drink' or whatever, I was thinking 'oh just fecking shut up and leave him alone woman!'. After all the previous hoohaa she was STILL doing it.

And then I saw the nominations. To all those saying michael was just being 'honest' (I bet you also used to watch xfactor and love it when simon cowell was 'honest' when he tore people with learning difficulties to shreds in front of all those people), - you should ask yourself - if he genuinely thinks she is 'emotionally unstable' then why would he go out of his way to try to push her over the edge - in front of everyone??

He's made himself look a complete w@nker to any decent-minded person. It was a cheap shot and showed a lack of maturity and integrity (I will admit denise is also lacking in maturity but she didnt do what he did)

IF Michael had only abused Denise ,then it would have some credence thats its just a clash of personalities,but when he then went on to abuse Georgia he showed where the true problem lies, Michael

[Suze]

Michael didn't say anything that Denise wouldn't already know, and for all we know as we are not privvy to everthing that goes on in there, Denise could have said a lot worse to Michael before the noms even took place. I see nothing wrong with Michael speaking his mind, others in there bitch behind backs, at least Michael doesn't, or not often as he knows it gets back to them anyway.

I am no way going back on thinking Michael was wrong, because I 100% don't think he was at all. I also don't think Denise was upset by it but playing to the cameras, I mean for goodness sakes how old is the woman supposed to be that she hasn't had things said before, she has probably been told that and a lot worse before now. If she can't handle CBB then she can walk, I really hope she is out soon. Ghastly, horrible, slovenly, person that she is. I expect she was upset at being up for the vote :joker:

[hennessy]

"won't someone please think of the children!!"

[chuff me dizzy]

Michael didn't say anything that Denise wouldn't already know, and for all we know as we are not privvy to everthing that goes on in there, Denise could have said a lot worse to Michael before the noms even took place. I see nothing wrong with Michael speaking his mind, others in there bitch behind backs, at least Michael doesn't, or not often as he knows it gets back to them anyway.

I am no way going back on thinking Michael was wrong, because I 100% don't think he was at all. I also don't think Denise was upset by it but playing to the cameras, I mean for goodness sakes how old is the woman supposed to be that she hasn't had things said before, she has probably been told that and a lot worse before now. If she can't handle CBB then she can walk, I really hope she is out soon. Ghastly, horrible, slovenly, person that she is. I expect she was upset at being up for the vote :joker:

"Michael doesnt bitch behind backs" :shocked::shocked::shocked: tell me you are joking ?

[Livia]

Michael's not a back-stabber, he's a front-stabber. I haven't heard him say anything behind anyone's back he's not said to their face.

[chuff me dizzy]

Michael's not a back-stabber, he's a front-stabber. I haven't heard him say anything behind anyone's back he's not said to their face.

Really? :shocked::conf:

[InOne]

Really? :shocked::conf:

Yes I'm pretty sure he's 100% straight, therefore a front stabber :tongue:

[Livia]

Really? :shocked::conf:

Yes, really.

Haven't you just gone on and on about how he's so bullying and abusive to woman? Are you saying now he's just a gossip?

Anyhoo... thanks for keeping all the Michael threads at the top of the list. Couldn't have done it without ya, Chuff.

[Livia]

Yes I'm pretty sure he's 100% straight, therefore a front stabber :tongue:

LOL... lowering the tone there InOne. I like that though.

[Kazanne]

I just dont think he suffers fools gladly and lets face it there are a lot of fools in that house.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes, really.

Haven't you just gone on and on about how he's so bullying and abusive to woman? Are you saying now he's just a gossip?

Anyhoo... thanks for keeping all the Michael threads at the top of the list. Couldn't have done it without ya, Chuff.

Glad to oblige posting hate threads

[Livia]

Glad to oblige posting hate threads

The haters are so outnumbered though, it really is working in favour of the supporters.

[Livia]

I just dont think he suffers fools gladly and lets face it there are a lot of fools in that house.

LOL... right. He's spoilt for choice.

[Tourmaline]

We cant complain about people being to fake and then when someone speaks their mind, hate them. Or else housemates will continue to hold back so that they are liked by the public

"someone who speaks their mind" seems to have become a socially acceptable quality for anyone who lacks tact and diplomacy but thinks it's cool to publicly humiliate and undermine others particularly those who are more vulnerable. Shame on you Michael!

[chuff me dizzy]

"someone who speaks their mind" seems to have become a socially acceptable quality for anyone who lacks tact and diplomacy but thinks it's cool to publicly humiliate and undermine others particularly those who are more vulnerable. Shame on you Michael!

"Speaks their minds" is an excuse for abusing women ,Shame on Michael

[chuff me dizzy]

The haters are so outnumbered though, it really is working in favour of the supporters.

You wish

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I can't believe what Micheal said about Denise on LF lastnight, he was out of order, if I was Denise I would have punched his face in, I also can't that people on this forum still like him & want him to win.:shocked:

I just wish it was a double eviction with Micheal & The Twins going, cant stand them either.

[Roy Mars III]

You wish

Have you seen the forum polls. Not just this forum, Michael is popular on them all

[Livia]

"someone who speaks their mind" seems to have become a socially acceptable quality for anyone who lacks tact and diplomacy but thinks it's cool to publicly humiliate and undermine others particularly those who are more vulnerable. Shame on you Michael!

You could take out the name "Michael" and replace it with almost any other housemate's name.

[Livia]

I can't believe what Micheal said about Denise on LF lastnight, he was out of order, if I was Denise I would have punched his face in, I also can't that people on this forum still like him & want him to win.:shocked:

I just wish it was a double eviction with Micheal & The Twins going, cant stand them either.

yeah, she's already tried with the punching thing. I suggest if she raises a fist and makes contact, he should do the same.

[Vicky.]

yeah, she's already tried with the punching thing. I suggest if she raises a fist and makes contact, he should do the same.

:o he would be hung drawn and quartered if he went on the same as she has :laugh:

Though its gotta be poor denise and nasty michael...just because hes the man. Sexism at its finest :D

[Livia]

:o he would be hung drawn and quartered if he went on the same as she has :laugh:

Though its gotta be poor denise and nasty michael...just because hes the man. Sexism at its finest :D

Can you imagine? Denise should stay off the sauce, and then the apologists wouldn't have to keep posting how ill-treated she's been by the nasty man.

[chuff me dizzy]

I can't believe what Micheal said about Denise on LF lastnight, he was out of order, if I was Denise I would have punched his face in, I also can't that people on this forum still like him & want him to win.:shocked:

I just wish it was a double eviction with Micheal & The Twins going, cant stand them either.

Facebook full of Michael hate and Denise love ,Every chance its a double, lets get the 3 yanks out

[Vicky.]

Facebook full of Michael hate and Denise love ,Every chance its a double, lets get the 3 yanks out

Facebook was also full of Aaron hate and Alex love. Look how that turned out :idc:

[Bojangles]

"Speaks their minds" is an excuse for abusing women ,Shame on Michael

I think it has been Michael that's been abused, on several occassions.

[wendywillow]

Facebook full of Michael hate and Denise love ,Every chance its a double, lets get the 3 yanks out

yeah but with no americans who would you have left to hate? and you have to admit it would be a little more boring

[Suze]

I would love if the three/four American housemates were the final three :D and would love that they managed to beat the odds then :D It happened with Dirk, and Germaine when Shilpa went on to win that CBB :) So not impossible :) I remember Dirk and Shilpa getting loads of sh*te but the voting public upped and got behind them :)

[chuff me dizzy]

I would love if the three/four American housemates were the final three :D and would love that they managed to beat the odds then :D It happened with Dirk, and Germaine when Shilpa went on to win that CBB :) So not impossible :) I remember Dirk and Shilpa getting loads of sh*te but the voting public upped and got behind them :)

4 ? and lets be honest here, Shipla would never have won without the pity vote she was never favourite to win ,she won on default

[Cherie]

I believe it is a double eviction on Friday, Nicola and Kirk, or even Nicola and Natalie..OR my ultimate desire Natalie and Denise...:devil:

[Suze]

I believe it is a double eviction on Friday, Nicola and Kirk, or even Nicola and Natalie..OR my ultimate desire Natalie and Denise...:devil:


Let's hope it's a quadruple then :laugh2:

[Cherie]

wud be good...:joker:

[Tourmaline]

You could take out the name "Michael" and replace it with almost any other housemate's name.

For instance? After specifically being told that they were going "live"...which other housemate chose to be abusive?

[Truth Teller]

Kirks the uncertain one, he could well go, however I know of 15 people already who actually voted heavily for Michael this week but who will now be voting for most others against him this time,
I think Nicola must be favourite to go but if Michael doesn't apologise and retract the mental reference of his comment then he could be in trouble.

I too gave him votes this week but will not be doing so now.I will be voting for some of the more apparant vulnerable others.

Joey, I hope what you are saying isn't true. He is blunt and to the point and nominated how he would in the diary room. He stated she was emotionally disturbed. Denise herself has stated this in her own book she has emotional problems; on Loose Women today Sherri said she warned her not to drink on entering the house. Denise has made a career out of talking about her emotional problems. These are just facts. Michael sees she is drinking and it affects her behaviour. She has harassed the poor man since last week, virtually every night. It was harsh - but true and he shouldn't be voted out for two words.

If you look on FB she was at him all day yesterday too - bitching about him etc. I think he had had an utter gutful by the time noms came round.

BB has a duty of care to Denise - she isn't happy there and cries all the time and seems emotionally wraught. Allowing her to drink like this for viewing isn't right. Projecting all her unhappiness on MM isn't fair either. Turning the house against him isn't right. She was crying/tearful even before the noms started!

There are other unplesant and fake housemates who deserve to go before MM. If people don't like him then fair enough but to use his honest nom to vote for others baffles me.:conf:

[Roy Mars III]

Michael is still the most popular, or second after the Twins on the forums. The forums are what matters, as Aaron showed us

[Suze]

Michael is still the most popular, or second after the Twins on the forums. The forums are what matters, as Aaron showed us

I actually think Michael has gained some fans for his truthfulness :) If we are to believe twitter all the time, then both Alex and Jay should have had runaway victories and winning over Aaron last year and Jay should have been beating him in the voting to save :joker: So think I will ignore twitter :joker:

[rusticgal]

I think Michael was out of order... what you say in the diary room is between BB and the public....but to say it in front of Denise in front of the rest of the housemates on live TV was really harsh. There is a time and place for everything and that was totally below the belt.
He knew he had stepped out of line because he was trying to justify himself to the other housemates afterwards.

He will certainly have lost a few votes.

[boomoo]

This, Natalie and Denise thought they did there work getting one of Michael/Twins out on Friday and they failed, morons.

Yes that was sweet when BB announced Michael and the twins and then announced the rest.

[Angus]

I think Michael was out of order... what you say in the diary room is between BB and the public....but to say it in front of Denise in front of the rest of the housemates on live TV was really harsh. There is a time and place for everything and that was totally below the belt.
He knew he had stepped out of line because he was trying to justify himself to the other housemates afterwards.

He will certainly have lost a few votes.

He will certainly also have gained a few too - his fan base is strong. He won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

As for trying to justify himself, the gobby HMs have attacked him for it, so all he is doing is explaining himself, though why he should have to I have no idea.
How anyone can defend the devious, lying bitch that is Denise, I really don't know.

[Pyramid*]

I think it has been Michael that's been abused, on several occassions.

I agree.

I loved when she was drunk the other night, going topless and him saying he'd been trying to tell everyone this was going to happen but no one would listen.....that she cannot handle her drink.

The man spoke the truth. If people reach the ages of Michael and Denise, and cannot be upfront, honest and truthful - it's a sad day.

On an off shoot - I loved hearing Denise admitting when she was doing the fake upset crying bit on the bed, with the girls coo cooing her: that she ADMITTED she had been plaguing Michael and deliberately pushing his buttons the past few weeks...... took her long enough to finally admit that eh. ;)

So now she reaps what she sowed -and she has the temerity to play the victim!!! It's hilarious.

[Truth Teller]

I have copied this post from DS as the poster has clarified quite a few things re: Denise and her emotional state and how the drinking is affecting her. Hopefully some posters will cut MM some slack:


denise... depression... ENOUGH

"I've had a look through the message board and felt compelled to write this.

There's a lot of comments on here relating to denise and her mental health. I've suffered depression the last 9 years, been hospitalised for it etc etc....
As patronising as this may sound to you, it is true; unless you have been through depression, you cannot know what it's like. I'm not going to single out people with quotes, but some of you seem to think it's something to be embarresed about, or that they know the ins and outs of it because a friend of a friend had it, or, more related to BB, that a sufferer should be wrapped in cotton wool despite them feeling well enough to put themselves into such a stressfull experience as BB.

If i applied to go in BB, i would not be allowed in because of my mental health, ~FACT. there's a good reason for this, and the rule shouldn't change because of a celebrity status.

denise suffers depression ~FACT

alchohol is a depressant, you are strongly discouraged from drinking at all by doctors whilst suffering depression, it also stops anti-depressants working,. ~FACT

denise should not be in there in the first place. this is nothing against her. this is just common sense. and the usual BB rules for "normal" people.

and as for the michael madsen comment, saying denise is emotionally disturbed.. guess what? he's right.

denise is emotionally disturbed, same way as i'm emotionally disturbed. quoted from the oxford english dictionary: "disturbed: having emotional or mental problems."
denise HAS got emotional/mental problems. that is undisputable. this doesn't mean that i'm slagging her off. having emotional/mental problems isn't something to be ashamed of.
I have heard the word "disturbed" used by doctors, as i assume denise has, and if the story of michael being sectioned is true, he'll have heard it in that context too.

let's say though, that he did say it out of nastiness, it is still the most real, meaningful, wake up call of a sentence denise has heard in there, there was more genuine care in his abrupt comment (I remind you, being disturbed mentally ill etc... is NOT an insult as so many of you seem to think it is) than has been shown to her from the other housemates.

I'm disturbed. I didn't ask for it, i'd rather not have it, but i cope with it as best i can and i'm a proud".

[Patricia4]

Michael just told the truth he was the only one that did everyone came out with a load of shi* licking towards each other.
Ive been sick to death of hearing them say I voted for Michael because of the conflict in the house between him and Denise but didnt Denise course some conflict?
Get her out.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I have copied this post from DS as the poster has clarified quite a few things re: Denise and her emotional state and how the drinking is affecting her. Hopefully some posters will cut MM some slack:


denise... depression... ENOUGH
I've had a look through the message board and felt compelled to write this.

There's a lot of comments on here relating to denise and her mental health. I've suffered depression the last 9 years, been hospitalised for it etc etc....
As patronising as this may sound to you, it is true; unless you have been through depression, you cannot know what it's like. I'm not going to single out people with quotes, but some of you seem to think it's something to be embarresed about, or that they know the ins and outs of it because a friend of a friend had it, or, more related to BB, that a sufferer should be wrapped in cotton wool despite them feeling well enough to put themselves into such a stressfull experience as BB.

If i applied to go in BB, i would not be allowed in because of my mental health, ~FACT. there's a good reason for this, and the rule shouldn't change because of a celebrity status.

denise suffers depression ~FACT

alchohol is a depressant, you are strongly discouraged from drinking at all by doctors whilst suffering depression, it also stops anti-depressants working,. ~FACT

denise should not be in there in the first place. this is nothing against her. this is just common sense. and the usual BB rules for "normal" people.

and as for the michael madsen comment, saying denise is emotionally disturbed.. guess what? he's right.

denise is emotionally disturbed, same way as i'm emotionally disturbed. quoted from the oxford english dictionary: "disturbed: having emotional or mental problems."
denise HAS got emotional/mental problems. that is undisputable. this doesn't mean that i'm slagging her off. having emotional/mental problems isn't something to be ashamed of.
I have heard the word "disturbed" used by doctors, as i assume denise has, and if the story of michael being sectioned is true, he'll have heard it in that context too.

let's say though, that he did say it out of nastiness, it is still the most real, meaningful, wake up call of a sentence denise has heard in there, there was more genuine care in his abrupt comment (I remind you, being disturbed mentally ill etc... is NOT an insult as so many of you seem to think it is) than has been shown to her from the other housemates.

I'm disturbed. I didn't ask for it, i'd rather not have it, but i cope with it as best i can and i'm a proud.

Yes but the difference between that poster and you is she is not slagging Denise off and you have been very harsh in calling her names and basically saying shes scum

[the truth]

I have not said she is scum , you are lying yet again. shame on you.

[the truth]

michael said the truth...the last labour government passed 1000s of useless laws but even they failed to pass a law that outlaws the truth. He had to say it. Touch love is the best love.

[the truth]

Yes but the difference between that poster and you is she is not slagging Denise off and you have been very harsh in calling her names and basically saying shes scum

neither has truth teller

[Truth Teller]

Yes but the difference between that poster and you is she is not slagging Denise off and you have been very harsh in calling her names and basically saying shes scum

WTF - I have not slagged Denise off once. You have the wrong poster.

Apologise.

[the truth]

I think Michael was out of order... what you say in the diary room is between BB and the public....but to say it in front of Denise in front of the rest of the housemates on live TV was really harsh. There is a time and place for everything and that was totally below the belt.
He knew he had stepped out of line because he was trying to justify himself to the other housemates afterwards.

He will certainly have lost a few votes.

It just proves hes not in it to curry favor or suck up falsely for votes or no nominations. saying the truth is the ONLY was and he is the only truthful housemate

[the truth]

WTF - I have not slagged Denise off once. You have the wrong poster.

Apologise.

hes saying lies about us both and hes name called me on here several times. Id suggest you report him

[Pyramid*]

I have copied this post from DS as the poster has clarified quite a few things re: Denise and her emotional state and how the drinking is affecting her. Hopefully some posters will cut MM some slack:


denise... depression... ENOUGH

"I've had a look through the message board and felt compelled to write this.

There's a lot of comments on here relating to denise and her mental health. I've suffered depression the last 9 years, been hospitalised for it etc etc....
As patronising as this may sound to you, it is true; unless you have been through depression, you cannot know what it's like. I'm not going to single out people with quotes, but some of you seem to think it's something to be embarresed about, or that they know the ins and outs of it because a friend of a friend had it, or, more related to BB, that a sufferer should be wrapped in cotton wool despite them feeling well enough to put themselves into such a stressfull experience as BB.

If i applied to go in BB, i would not be allowed in because of my mental health, ~FACT. there's a good reason for this, and the rule shouldn't change because of a celebrity status.

denise suffers depression ~FACT

alchohol is a depressant, you are strongly discouraged from drinking at all by doctors whilst suffering depression, it also stops anti-depressants working,. ~FACT

denise should not be in there in the first place. this is nothing against her. this is just common sense. and the usual BB rules for "normal" people.

and as for the michael madsen comment, saying denise is emotionally disturbed.. guess what? he's right.

denise is emotionally disturbed, same way as i'm emotionally disturbed. quoted from the oxford english dictionary: "disturbed: having emotional or mental problems."
denise HAS got emotional/mental problems. that is undisputable. this doesn't mean that i'm slagging her off. having emotional/mental problems isn't something to be ashamed of.
I have heard the word "disturbed" used by doctors, as i assume denise has, and if the story of michael being sectioned is true, he'll have heard it in that context too.

let's say though, that he did say it out of nastiness, it is still the most real, meaningful, wake up call of a sentence denise has heard in there, there was more genuine care in his abrupt comment (I remind you, being disturbed mentally ill etc... is NOT an insult as so many of you seem to think it is) than has been shown to her from the other housemates.

I'm disturbed. I didn't ask for it, i'd rather not have it, but i cope with it as best i can and i'm a proud".


Hi TT. Long time no see, hope you are well.

thanks for posting this from another DS user. I have in other threads on here said much the same thing as this same poster has in regards to depression and drinking - but was poo pooed for stating the same facts as this DS poster's quote above.

Being emotionally unstable isn't a crime - what is a crime is the abuse that Michael is being given out here for speaking the truth about Denise - and the reason he has clearly done so is becaue Denise obviously in incapable of dealing or coping with her own problems responsibly (which she isn't doing), then no one else should have to be in the firing line, nor take the flack or backlash when they call it as it is. Some people cannot handle the truth, hurtful as it may seem: Denise is one of those people. She projects, she plays the victim and then denies all responsibility....... (until a few weeks later when it suits her as she did the other night....which also shows how utterly manipulative and sleekit she is).

[Livia]

Despite everything that's gone on between them, Denise just can't seem to sort herself out where Michael is concerned. What did she say to Michael last night? He was in the bedroom alone, she burst in and said "It's Frankie's birthday, come and have one drink and then you can go to bed". Who the hell does she think she is? I think most people, including me, would have told her to ******* off and mind her own business. Then she wonders why he's sharp with her and turns on the waterworks. Someone take the bottle off her...

[the truth]

this moral relativism is a corruption of our morals...this is why this country spends more money per head on hardened criminals than the sick and the old

the bad guy (denise) gets more sympathy and attention than the victim (michael) ok this is just a tv show. but the principle is just the same. besides shes stated shes hit her rather great husband in drunken rages before. yet shes never been arrested , shes merely profited from it by selling more books. immoral.

any abuser can fall back on , I had a bad childhood, I was drunk I didnt know what I was doing? etc utter tripe. personal responsibility must replace this corrupt moral relativism. if you are a criminal and you suffer depression. get help IN JAIL. and leave the rest of us in peace

[wendywillow]

Despite everything that's gone on between them, Denise just can't seem to sort herself out where Michael is concerned. What did she say to Michael last night? He was in the bedroom alone, she burst in and said "It's Frankie's birthday, come and have one drink and then you can go to bed". Who the hell does she think she is? I think most people, including me, would have told her to ******* off and mind her own business. Then she wonders why he's sharp with her and turns on the waterworks. Someone take the bottle off her...

its crazy....she keeps doing the same thing and then is surprised when he snaps...mm is like a a big dog...you dont yell and jab him whens hes sleeping curled up in a ball...you come at him nice and mellow when hes awake and in the mood....its the 4th time shes done the exact same thing...and gotten bit each time (no resevoir dogs pun intended)

[the truth]

no one likes their space invaded...not even space invaders lol

[rk3388]

Forums are not enough. Remember Tara Reid being way ahead in the polls last year ?

[Tanser_Man]

I laughed for the sheer audacity to say it in front of everyone.

Yet, not one of the doo'gooders jumped in and condemned him there and then..... they've talked a good game after he was out in the garden.

If he goes I'd be VERY surprised because he's been quality, from start to finish. He might not be in your face 24/7 but when he chirps up, he's priceless.... and I've never even seen reservoir dogs...

[chuff me dizzy]

I actually think Michael has gained some fans for his truthfulness :) If we are to believe twitter all the time, then both Alex and Jay should have had runaway victories and winning over Aaron last year and Jay should have been beating him in the voting to save :joker: So think I will ignore twitter :joker:

You are joking ? honestly do you TRULY think this? I think you will be in for a MASSIVE shock

[Bojangles]

What I can't stand is Denise knows the situation between them is delicate to say the least,
but she will insist when they are talking again to start harping on about past rows between them.No wonder it does his head in because it certainly does mine.

[chuff me dizzy]

What I can't stand is Denise knows the situation between them is delicate to say the least,
but she will insist when they are talking again to start harping on about past rows between them.No wonder it does his head in because it certainly does mine.

So whats your excuse for his abusing Georgia? is it also HER fault ? Georgia called him a bully and shes lived with him

[Bojangles]

I didn't see any bullying.He was talking to her about how was she so certain it was her that would be leaving.

[Truth Teller]

Hi TT. Long time no see, hope you are well.

thanks for posting this from another DS user. I have in other threads on here said much the same thing as this same poster has in regards to depression and drinking - but was poo pooed for stating the same facts as this DS poster's quote above.

Being emotionally unstable isn't a crime - what is a crime is the abuse that Michael is being given out here for speaking the truth about Denise - and the reason he has clearly done so is becaue Denise obviously in incapable of dealing or coping with her own problems responsibly (which she isn't doing), then no one else should have to be in the firing line, nor take the flack or backlash when they call it as it is. Some people cannot handle the truth, hurtful as it may seem: Denise is one of those people. She projects, she plays the victim and then denies all responsibility....... (until a few weeks later when it suits her as she did the other night....which also shows how utterly manipulative and sleekit she is).

Hi:xyxwave:,

I left earlier after another poster personally attacked me and lied so only just read your post.

Hope you are well. Yes sadly I think the house hasn't been good for her and the drinking isn't helping. I feel BB has a care of duty towards her - but only seem interested in exacerbating her behaviour. None of the other housemates will do anything about it and jsut seem to encourage it.

[jegmeister]

Well hes really blown the little scrap of a chance of winning CBB tonight and I cannot wait for the boos that await him ,what a dirty,low ,ansty speech he made ,I think the creep is mentally unstable

er...no he hasn't. Look at the polls my friend - he is right up there. There is zero chance he will go tonight. And he will be very much in for a shout to win.

And well done I say. At last he has told that stupid cow where to shove it.

[David R]

Being emotionally unstable isn't a crime - what is a crime is the abuse that Michael is being given out here for speaking the truth about Denise - and the reason he has clearly done so is becaue Denise obviously in incapable of dealing or coping with her own problems responsibly (which she isn't doing),

THIS!

It's criminal that Michael is being made out to be the bad guy here when Denise is the one who is incapable of keeping herself together. If she knows she has problems and drink sets her off then its her fault for after all these years not knowing better.

Say what he said to anyone else and they would have just been pissed off but not lost the plot. I don't think it was overly abusive, if anything he worded it very simply and delivered it calmly. It wasn't anything different from what he had been saying to other housemates about her anyway and most importantly it was exactly how he felt when no one else would have the guts and sugarcoat it.

She lived in total delusion and was somehow suprised that he felt this way, well dur, he has been telling you to take a hike all week!

I also hate when someone (Natalie) who is self proclaimed as neutral buts into something thats none of their damn business says they haven't got an opinion but then clearly does have one by saying shes never going to speak to Michael again and then sides with Denise!

Get either one of those women out!