Lets all be honest here

[Kazanne]

Lets all be honest here and not stick up for someone cos you 'like/fancy' them,who REALLY saw the twins ass?talk about being blown out of proportion it's as bad on here as the twin made it,i watched it and all that happened was Denise tugged her pants,they came down a little(not even to her knees)then it took her a while to think before registering that it would be a good idea to claim she had been violated,i mean really? she had pants on,we all saw a side view of thigh,no more exposure than them walking round the bedroom in skimpy undies or a bikini.Denise should NOT have done it but I'm certain it wasn't done maliciously and come on,no one saw the crack of her ass,but I suppose the ammunition for twin fans was a God send,and as for Nicola,lol,can she spell hypocrite,much.

[HBB1508]

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

[rusticgal]

Exactly Kazanne..... blown way out of porportion. The twins obviously had 'dont film me sitting on the toilet' clause written into their contract then....lol

[Saph]

She didnt seem to mind when she was in the hot tub last week in a bikini :bored: I felt bad for Denise, Karissa overreacted.

[jasper]

Totally agree. i looked at moment Denise pulled her pants and all you saw was her thigh

[MTVN]

They probably did have a better view of her ass from somewhere but chose not to show it, there's cameras all around that room. And Karissa straight away said she wasn't cool with that but did agree to keep dancing and then Denise went to go and do it a second time, and then she went and denied that later :bored:

[Cherie]

Thats the game innit, Denise should not have been so naive, she says she has the twins sussed, and as she is increasingly on her own in there now the Cat Pack has dispersed she needed to box clever as they used to say in the olden days, the twins are as sharp as tacks, and Denise and Nicola fell right into it, having said that Nicola did try to take one of the twins into the garden to defuse the situation, but then Frankie chimed in (I like that expression) to let her speak so thats when it really kicked off. If Denise could lay off the sauce for 5 minutes she might be able to think and speak coherently, so you cant really blame the twins for taking advantage of the drunk can you..:joker:

[MrWong]

Lets all be honest here and not stick up for someone cos you 'like/fancy' them,who REALLY saw the twins ass?talk about being blown out of proportion it's as bad on here as the twin made it,i watched it and all that happened was Denise tugged her pants,they came down a little(not even to her knees)then it took her a while to think before registering that it would be a good idea to claim she had been violated,i mean really? she had pants on,we all saw a side view of thigh,no more exposure than them walking round the bedroom in skimpy undies or a bikini.Denise should NOT have done it but I'm certain it wasn't done maliciously and come on,no one saw the crack of her ass,but I suppose the ammunition for twin fans was a God send,and as for Nicola,lol,can she spell hypocrite,much.

How does Karissa know what was shown? There are cameras for every angle. Ridiculous argument. Her whole arse was on display, it's irrelevant whether it was down to her knees or not.

Took her awhile to think or was in shock that the drunken ole lush had just exposed her? She turned to her sister and said "I don't think i'm ok with that"

LOL @ you comparing wearing knickers/bikini to having your pj bottoms pulled down by a drunk.

The ammunition for the twins came when Denise tried to justify her own behaviour by implying they shouldn't be bothered because they get their t!ts out for a living. Only an imbecile would use that reasoning. :idc:

[MrWong]

They probably did have a better view of her ass from somewhere but chose not to show it, there's cameras all around that room. And Karissa straight away said she wasn't cool with that but did agree to keep dancing and then Denise went to go and do it a second time, and then she went and denied that later :bored:

Exactly right.

[Josy]

She said straight away she wasnt ok with that, then even after that Denise went to do it again........

[kisywisy]

we didn't see her bum because bb didn't show it. how are the twins to know what is going to be edited into the show and what camera angle they will use for the event???

[kisywisy]

Thats the game innit, Denise should not have been so naive, she says she has the twins sussed, and as she is increasingly on her own in there now the Cat Pack has dispersed she needed to box clever as they used to say in the olden days, the twins are as sharp as tacks, and Denise and Nicola fell right into it, having said that Nicola did try to take one of the twins into the garden to defuse the situation, but then Frankie chimed in (I like that expression) to let her speak so thats when it really kicked off. If Denise could lay off the sauce for 5 minutes she might be able to think and speak coherently, so you cant really blame the twins for taking advantage of the drunk can you..:joker:

:thumbs:

although i don't think they were 'taking advantage' of her

[chuff me dizzy]

Delayed reaction or what? in the bedroom the other day they said to Michael ,we will go in living room and wind her up(or words to that effect) they were gutted when Denise didnt take the bait, but went back to report to Michael that she hadnt ,Michael showed true colours as well last night by lying for Nicola, she had already told Denise she had not asked the others about shredding letters, then Michael jumped in and said she HAD asked ,wish tomorrow was a triple .,let the lot of them go

[chuff me dizzy]

She said straight away she wasnt ok with that, then even after that Denise went to do it again........

She did it ONCE

[Josy]

She did it ONCE

Go rewatch last nights episode, she says sorry then tugs at the trousers again.

And Jamie also said on bots she done it TWICE.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

lets all be honest

look how hot denises son is

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/16/article-1095268-02D126B3000005DC-127_468x734.jpg

just look

[chuff me dizzy]

Go rewatch last nights episode, she says sorry then tugs at the trousers again.

And Jamie also said on bots she done it TWICE.

she PRETENDED to do it the second time, even hm8s said that

[Kazanne]

Denise is a rancid jealous hag. Pure and simple. Hers and that swamp donkey, Natalie's sycophant fans stick up for them purely because they are ugly and do not feel threatened by them.

pmsl,at how defensive the twins fans are,they have to resort to insults,Mmmm could that be down to their age and cos they is fit?I am not supporting Denise ,didn't like Natalie and don't like the twins,my choice,my opinion,the incident blown way out of proportion.i guess had it been the other way round,the girlies would 'just have been having fun':joker:some people are shallow as wee on a plate

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

is everybody appreciating how attractive denises son is

good just checking

[kisywisy]

Delayed reaction or what? in the bedroom the other day they said to Michael ,we will go in living room and wind her up(or words to that effect) they were gutted when Denise didnt take the bait, but went back to report to Michael that she hadnt ,Michael showed true colours as well last night by lying for Nicola, she had already told Denise she had not asked the others about shredding letters, then Michael jumped in and said she HAD asked ,wish tomorrow was a triple .,let the lot of them go

they did discuss the shredding of the letters

plus, everyone in denise's room said they wanted the others to hurry up and push the button. denise HERSELF said 'i don't care about my letter. i know my boys love me' before bb set the timer.

[Josy]

she PRETENDED to do it the second time, even hm8s said that

Yeah and the post of mine you quoted clearly says she WENT to do it again, so she must have been really sorry about doing it the first time eh?

[chuff me dizzy]

Made me howl after Karissa shout "Sue/lawsuit" they STILL showed it ,good on you producers for not listening to her blackmail

[Kazanne]

IF BB had other shots of her precious ass,they didn't show it,so no problem and i'm sure they would have told the twin that,so why are people up in arms about something that HASN'T happened?people have posted shots of her on here showing her ass,wonder how she would feel about that,maybe she'll sue.

[Josy]

IF BB had other shots of her precious ass,they didn't show it,so no problem and i'm sure they would have told the twin that,so why are people up in arms about something that HASN'T happened?people have posted shots of her on here showing her ass,wonder how she would feel about that,maybe she'll sue.

That all comes down to choice though, if Karissa choose to bare her arse all over the internet and magazines etc then fair enough but Denise has no right to make that choice for her.

[Beso]

My take on the whole matter is that Denise had no right to do it in the first place, then after realising that one of the twins was upset she jokingly tried to do it again which was beyond contempt for me. This I believe is when the twins got irate about it and had every right to do so. However the argument only really began when Nicola got he self involved and the real discussion point started. Denise wiped the floor with nicola and it made great viewing.

For me Nicola had a mouth when the twins were there to back her up but as soon as they were both in the diary room she crumbled under the brilliant barrage of truths from denise when her backing was gone.

Nicola and the twins in the diary room together was pathetic, not so much the twins but Nicola, she really is a useless twat when faced with someone brave enough to bite back. She only regained her fake bravado when in the diary room with her little team.

The twin who was saying she was going to sue and all that I think was probably taking it a bit far and over dramatising the whole situation because she had had a drink and tempers were raised before she got into the diary room.

So for the initial pant pulling denise was in the wrong, and the twin had every right to be angry with denise.

For the main story though for me, Denise was brilliant she went away sucked it up then thought **** this, so went back fighting, and boy did she fight back. Nicola was left speechless time and time again as she reeled against the ropes failing to block denises blows as she pathetically looked around the room for the support she thought woul;d be forthcomming.. It wasn't which made it even better.


I took 2 things from it.


1. gareth and romeo need to go tomorrow. fence sitters aint my thing and their audible gasps and nervous sighs they made as they fumbled for glasses to fill with water or kettles to put on spoiled the quality of the arguments audio.

And 2..the main one....FRANKIE SHOULD WIN. He stood his ground and backed Denise all the way, told Nicola she was an arse licker and generally took the piss out the twins..Fantastic frankie, the shining light.

[Jules2]

Thats the game innit, Denise should not have been so naive, she says she has the twins sussed, and as she is increasingly on her own in there now the Cat Pack has dispersed she needed to box clever as they used to say in the olden days, the twins are as sharp as tacks, and Denise and Nicola fell right into it, having said that Nicola did try to take one of the twins into the garden to defuse the situation, but then Frankie chimed in (I like that expression) to let her speak so thats when it really kicked off. If Denise could lay off the sauce for 5 minutes she might be able to think and speak coherently, so you cant really blame the twins for taking advantage of the drunk can you..:joker:

Good post, I dont blame the twins at all it is a game and they are playing it. Thereagain so is Denise but she is working on the vibe of jealousy, this is a bad thing and it isnt doing her any good at all. She is losing her self esteem, mind you maybe she doesnt worry about that as a majority will feel sorry for her instead of seeing things as they really are. Denise has managed to turn herself into the underdog, she isnt though she imo has played the major part.

[Jules2]

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

They looked upon Denise as a mother figure so why would they want to bring her down? Denise did it to herself I am afraid but it has done her good as the bookies have upped her chance of winning.

[buckfast67uk]

I'd be surprised if you were older than me Kazanne.

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[buckfast67uk]

The slightly milder twin, came out of it better than the gobby one. My guess is their career choice has led to too many unwelcome advances over the years and they get sensitive over it.

Denise was in the wrong although she did apologise. Why she went to do it again AFTER the apology is confusing.

Nicola shot herself right in the foot last night by getting involved. Her true colours were finally shown and good on Denise for bringing them out.

Frankie was useless last night. His involvement blatantly inflamed the situation, he knows fine well how the twins feel about him and his lecherous ways, in my opinion he was seeking TV time. He added nothing to the argument and was purely seeking air time.

Gareth is a disgrace. His fence sitting shenanigans were disgusting. He was asked straight up for his opinion by Nicola and refused to side. The man is a disgrace.

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[MrWong]

That all comes down to choice though, if Karissa choose to bare her arse all over the internet and magazines etc then fair enough but Denise has no right to make that choice for her.

Damn right.

[Kazanne]

Made me howl after Karissa shout "Sue/lawsuit" they STILL showed it ,good on you producers for not listening to her blackmail

if that had been a bloke Chuff,can you imagine ?they would have cried rape,lol

[Tourmaline]

The ammunition for the twins came when Denise tried to justify her own behaviour by implying they shouldn't be bothered because they get their t!ts out for a living. Only an imbecile would use that reasoning. :idc:

Denise didn't use that reasoning for pulling her pants down.....she said that in response to be told that Karissa is "reserved"

[Kazanne]

we didn't see her bum because bb didn't show it. how are the twins to know what is going to be edited into the show and what camera angle they will use for the event???

BB DIDN'T show it,so what's the problem,we've seen her ass posted on here anyway:joker:it's an ass,we all have one.

[HBB1508]

They looked upon Denise as a mother figure so why would they want to bring her down? Denise did it to herself I am afraid but it has done her good as the bookies have upped her chance of winning.

IMO they looked on Denise as a mother figure for as long as it benefited them - now the end game is on they are out to bring as many down as possible so they can win, and Denise gave them all the ammunition they needed, she was in the wrong but it seems to have worked in her favour!

[buckfast67uk]

Big brother did the right thing by not showing it.

Denise paraded round topless, but it was her choice so they showed it.

The twins have chosen (whilst in the house) to hide their nudity and big brother have respected that. Denise took away that choice. In terms of decency big brother did the right thing.

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[Ellen]

BB DIDN'T show it,so what's the problem,we've seen her ass posted on here anyway:joker:it's an ass,we all have one.

Think that was the point, she didnt know what would be shown.
Yes we all have an ass, some just dont like their clothes been forcibly pulled down to show our ass off!

[Kazanne]

Think that was the point, she didnt know what would be shown.
Yes we all have an ass, some just dont like their clothes been forcibly pulled down to show our ass off!

The point is BB would have told them it hasn't been shown,you must have a better TV then me as i never saw her ass,the only place i have seen that is posted pictures on here:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That all comes down to choice though, if Karissa choose to bare her arse all over the internet and magazines etc then fair enough but Denise has no right to make that choice for her.

yes, i mean imagine pulling someones joggers down so you can briefly see her pants. OH THE SHAME

FFS


bwahahahahahahahaha:joker:


is this P5?

[kefln]

Arguments and gameplay side…

If I am to believe this thread, the OP wants to know what the problem is if a woman’s pants is pulled down in public, by someone else. That if the “victim” walks around in a bikini on occasion, then they have no right to blow things like this out of proportion...

Interesting.

Lets not forget that Denise has blown everything that Michael has said, or not said, to her out of proportion.

And, for example, had Nicola walked up behind Natalie and pulled her pants down, no matter how little, would the crowd be braying for Natalie’s or Nicola’s blood? Even if there was a huge argument where everything was blown out of proportion? I’m guessing that a move like that would have been the end of Nicola’s time in the house. Why? Because people see her as a b*tch.

Is it because we know the Twins personal history and that they have obviously been plotting, but no more than Natalie did, or Denise does, that people lack any sympathy?

Because I think that is the real question.

[Ellen]

The point is BB would have told them it hasn't been shown,you must have a better TV then me as i never saw her ass,the only place i have seen that is posted pictures on here:joker:

Your quote that i replied to implied that because we all have an ass she shouldnt be that bothered about it been shown off.:conf:
Im sure BB did tell her it would not be shown but i dont think that would have stopped her worrying that it would be viewed by all & sundry.

[Josy]

yes, i mean imagine pulling someones joggers down so you can briefly see her pants. OH THE SHAME

FFS


bwahahahahahahahaha:joker:


is this P5?

You would think it was going by your reply :idc:

[robb]

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

Agreed...I was really hoping the twins would be the 'good guys' after Georgia being nominated to death. They could have laughed it off, tugged denise's jumper up....ITS BB FOR GAD'S SAKE, WHAT DID THEY EXPECT? But as with the Japanese game show thing, they wanted to sue/make money/whatever. Nicola used one of her faces to side with the twins (after SLAUGHTERING THEM/NOMINATING THEM for 2 weeks while georgia was in there). The fact that denise pointed this out after nicola's 'feminist stance' was fair game. And where exactly was nicola's concern when frankie offered the twins his condom or kirk pestered georgia for 10 days??? NOWHERE TO BE SEEN....because she was in their bigger gang then. She switches sides like robbie keane switches football teams. The twins have let me (and, I suspect, Georgia) down.

[robb]

They looked upon Denise as a mother figure so why would they want to bring her down? Denise did it to herself I am afraid but it has done her good as the bookies have upped her chance of winning.

So if Michael madsen had pulled down romeo or gareth's joggers, he would be slaughtered on here in the same way I presume????:nono:

[MrWong]

Denise didn't use that reasoning for pulling her pants down.....she said that in response to be told that Karissa is "reserved"

The fact that Denise doesn't think Karissa can be reserved in her private life contrary to who she is in her public life is rather worrying. :shocked:

[dyfed]

Delayed reaction or what? in the bedroom the other day they said to Michael ,we will go in living room and wind her up(or words to that effect) they were gutted when Denise didnt take the bait, but went back to report to Michael that she hadnt ,Michael showed true colours as well last night by lying for Nicola, she had already told Denise she had not asked the others about shredding letters, then Michael jumped in and said she HAD asked ,wish tomorrow was a triple .,let the lot of them go
Absolutely right,it was a delayed reaction from the twin,thinking $$$$ or put Denise in a bad light...it may work in USA but the Brits are one step ahead of them,well most...

[dyfed]

The point is BB would have told them it hasn't been shown,you must have a better TV then me as i never saw her ass,the only place i have seen that is posted pictures on here:joker:
It must be a wide screen with tinted blue glasses......:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kefln]

Denise was extremely sly last night.

Her first reaction was “well you get your tits out for a living”, meaning she didn’t see the harm in pulling down the twins pants. But she copped on very quickly to the fact that this was the wrong way to put things. So she changed tack…

Everytime her behaviour was mentioned, she attacked Nicola. Bringing up the button, or the “lying” thing. Anything to portray herself as a victim, rather than the aggressor.

Nicola was perfectly correct, why didn’t Denise bring these things up in private? Because she needed them for ammo.
Its been shown on more than one occasion in that house, Denise is a bad drunk and she constantly plays the victim, no matter what the circumstances.

[Bojangles]

I suspect when the twin was in the diary room she was doing a deal for more money so the clip we saw last night could be shown
They are business women.

[Kazelle]

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.



Exactly, they know what they're doing. They've made it obvious from the start that the competition is why they're there. I think in the US BB is more of a gameshow than the British public tend to think of it as.
The twins were asked to compete in a gameshow and that's exactly what they're doing, there's nothing "real" about them, they're whole lives have been living up to an image, sad really.
If Karissa really was so enraged about her backside being seen on tv then she wouldn't have let herself be seen in a bikini.

[RodHull]

Frankie was useless last night. His involvement blatantly inflamed the situation, he knows fine well how the twins feel about him and his lecherous ways, in my opinion he was seeking TV time. He added nothing to the argument and was purely seeking air time.


TOTALLY AGREE... cant believe people are so gullible to think he was just defending Denise and didnt have his own agenda. And more to the point, Denise didnt deserve anyone defending her.

If The Twins had done this to Natalie or if Denise had done that to Georgia would Frankie have defended them??? No I dont think so... he is a sad little boy he cant accept that there are women who see him as revolting rather than funny or cute.

And to answer someone else from another thread (which got closed)

Notice how she intentionally is putting her ass on display AND pointing it in the direction of the cameras.

Notice how SHE Is intentionally is putting her ass on display... note the CAPITALS there (hint)

Its her choice, just like a prostitute makes a choice to sell HER body, doesn't give men the right to rape her.

"Oh well judge shes a ***** so it doesn't matter that I raped her cause she sleeps with people for a living"

Your essentially condoning that behaviour. They are slightly ridiculous, the threats to BB were pure acting/drama but beheath all that Denise was out of order to do that. Would Georgia have been ok with Denise pulling down her trousers? She an underwear model so thats ok surely, would Nicola or Michael (hes done nude/semi nude scenes in films) be ok with it??

No they wouldn't so why should the twins accept it. What people are doing is formulating an opinion of the twins based on their lifestyle and then essentially saying its cool for people to treat them like trash and they have no right to complain.

So please wise one explain why its ok for an old drunken hag with serious boundary issues who waps her boobs out at the drop of a hat to pull her trousers down?

If the twins had done this to say Natalie would you be cool with that?? No of course you wouldnt cause you hate the twins... dont let your own dislike of them mean you excuse unacceptable behavior from a woman who causes trouble every time she drinks and often when she doesnt drink as well.

Forget its the twins (put them aside) do you think what denise did was ok? Do you then think it was ok for her to rip into Nicola who tried to stop the argument and bring up the letters which she told Nicola she was fine about (two faced much) Denise was to gutless to defend her own actions so she turned the whole argument onto Nicola and made her feel small and bullied... disgraceful behaviour from a 53 yr old woman imho

Gareth and the others who had their letters shredded even agreed before that timer started they would let the others have theirs (as Natalie and Nicola were there) Denise sat their and agreed to it. In the other room all the others where either complicit or agreed outright with Nicola and she forwarned all of them. The only one who took issue with it at the time was Romeo. Yet last night they all sat their and let Denise rip into Nicola about that, only Michael tried to defend her by admitting she did consult everyone, but he was very wary of making the argument worse I believe as he has issues himself with Denise.

I have no love for Nicola, shes easy to dislike, but last night she didnt do much wrong. Had Denise closed her gob for 10 seconds and had Frankie stopped fuelling the fire she would have removed Kristina into the garden and the argument would have settled down, but they were determined to continue it and bring Nicola into it as well. She kept saying it was cause it wasnt Nicolas argument but it was presumable OK that Frankie was siding with her!

[Niamh.]

Well, I can assure you I have no interest in their arses :laugh: But If I was in Karissas situation I really wouldn't like someone to do that to me either. I would feel violated, whether she did it as a joke or not, I know I wouldn't be laughing. Yes she was OTT when she spoke about getting her lawyers involved but she was angry.

[RodHull]

Well, I can assure you I have no interest in their arses :laugh: But If I was in Karissas situation I really wouldn't like someone to do that to me either. I would feel violated, whether she did it as a joke or not, I know I wouldn't be laughing. Yes she was OTT when she spoke about getting her lawyers involved but she was angry.

Oh that was definately silly talk, it was a few things I think. First having made their name as nude models they are probably bored to death of being treated like trash and having people like frankie openly perving over them. Second they come from a very litigious culture where thats seen as normal, and third they were themselves drunk and overreacted a bit. This was obvious as later she calmed down and returned to the house...

[MTVN]

I don't understand why people can't tell the difference between voluntarily flaunting their own body as part of a professional photoshoot, and having their trousers yanked down by a 50 year old drunk. Just because they're comfortable with the former doesn't mean it's suddenly acceptable to do the latter.

[RodHull]

Exactly, like I say its tantamount to saying that all prostitutes are fair game for rape. Basically people dont like the twins cause they are super confident, American and are a bit up themselves. This then means people are excusing behaviour towards them that is not acceptable at all.

Would the public have been cool if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers? I dont think so personally. I also dont think Denise would have done it, she views the twins as *****s, she more or less said as much in that argument to excuse her behaviour. That was what got me in the whole thing.

Strip away the stupid secondary argument about letters (cheap shot imo) and Frankie doing his best to stoke it up (even admitted he was doing it deliberately) Remove the drama bomb that went off and just analyse what she did (Denise) and I cant believe anyone thinks thats acceptable. Specially from a 53 year old mother...

[Livia]

I don't understand why people can't tell the difference between voluntarily flaunting their own body as part of a professional photoshoot, and having their trousers yanked down by a 50 year old drunk. Just because they're comfortable with the former doesn't mean it's suddenly acceptable to do the latter.

I couldn't have put it better.

[Niamh.]

Exactly, like I say its tantamount to saying that all prostitutes are fair game for rape. Basically people dont like the twins cause they are super confident, American and are a bit up themselves. This then means people are excusing behaviour towards them that is not acceptable at all.

Would the public have been cool if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers? I dont think so personally. I also dont think Denise would have done it, she views the twins as *****s, she more or less said as much in that argument to excuse her behaviour. That was what got me in the whole thing.

Strip away the stupid secondary argument about letters (cheap shot imo) and Frankie doing his best to stoke it up (even admitted he was doing it deliberately) Remove the drama bomb that went off and just analyse what she did (Denise) and I cant believe anyone thinks thats acceptable. Specially from a 53 year old mother...

Very true, great post.

[SourMango]

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

I concur.

[SourMango]

I don't understand why people can't tell the difference between voluntarily flaunting their own body as part of a professional photoshoot, and having their trousers yanked down by a 50 year old drunk. Just because they're comfortable with the former doesn't mean it's suddenly acceptable to do the latter.

How about comparing showing a bit of arse cheek on a tv show and unintentionally showing a bit of arse cheek on the same tv show?

But making a huge fuss about the second one.

[Marc]

It's not as if it was her boob or her 'pocket of warm love' :rolleyes: she needs to calm down

[RodHull]

How about comparing showing a bit of arse cheek on a tv show and unintentionally showing a bit of arse cheek on the same tv show?

But making a huge fuss about the second one.

Yes and your point??

Do you think if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers that Georgia would have been ok with it?? No she would be a bit humiliated most likely. So why is it different for the twins?

What part of consent dont you understand. However ridiculous and contradictory it might seem to others, the twins have as much right to respect and decency as anyone else in there. Or do you think that women who behave in a certain way professionally are 'asking for it' when treated like trash by others?

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Lets all be honest here and not stick up for someone cos you 'like/fancy' them,who REALLY saw the twins ass?talk about being blown out of proportion it's as bad on here as the twin made it,i watched it and all that happened was Denise tugged her pants,they came down a little(not even to her knees)then it took her a while to think before registering that it would be a good idea to claim she had been violated,i mean really? she had pants on,we all saw a side view of thigh,no more exposure than them walking round the bedroom in skimpy undies or a bikini.Denise should NOT have done it but I'm certain it wasn't done maliciously and come on,no one saw the crack of her ass,but I suppose the ammunition for twin fans was a God send,and as for Nicola,lol,can she spell hypocrite,much.

Great post Kazanne, 100% agree with you.

[Tourmaline]

Well I saw Karissa make a complete ass of herself..does that count?:hugesmile:

[pinkpanther]

Lets all be honest here and not stick up for someone cos you 'like/fancy' them,who REALLY saw the twins ass?talk about being blown out of proportion it's as bad on here as the twin made it,i watched it and all that happened was Denise tugged her pants,they came down a little(not even to her knees)then it took her a while to think before registering that it would be a good idea to claim she had been violated,i mean really? she had pants on,we all saw a side view of thigh,no more exposure than them walking round the bedroom in skimpy undies or a bikini.Denise should NOT have done it but I'm certain it wasn't done maliciously and come on,no one saw the crack of her ass,but I suppose the ammunition for twin fans was a God send,and as for Nicola,lol,can she spell hypocrite,much.

THE MOST BORING NIGHT OF THE SHOW. it was a joke. no one saw anything. it was a bunch of idiots all fighting depserately for cheap attention. I see idiots like that every night falling out of chav pubs. they bore me senseless , theyre all the same and all as stupid as each other. the only person who stands out is michael

[Lostie!]

Denise is a rancid jealous hag. Pure and simple. Hers and that swamp donkey, Natalie's sycophant fans stick up for them purely because they are ugly and do not feel threatened by them.

Everything about this post fails.

You know that all of Denise and Natalie's fans are ugly? May I ask how?

You've got a lot of anger inside, haven't you? Is school stressful? :o

[Kazanne]

Everything about this post fails.

You know that all of Denise and Natalie's fans are ugly? May I ask how?

You've got a lot of anger inside, haven't you? Is school stressful? :o

just seen that post by buckfast67uk,,isn't it against forum rules to insult posters? or is that just for some

[MTVN]

Sorry it didn't get reported and must have flew under the radar, it's been dealt with now

[Kazanne]

Sorry it didn't get reported and must have flew under the radar, it's been dealt with now
No problem MTVN,just being my usual sarcy self,lol:xyxwave:

[buckfast67uk]

You're quite right, that was out of order. Get a bit carried away on here at times! Apologiesjust seen that post by buckfast67uk,,isn't it against forum rules to insult posters? or is that just for some

[InOne]

Denise and Frankie were by far the worst culprits out of it all. Jealousy and anger fueled them. Horrible people.

[buckfast67uk]

Everything about this post fails.

You know that all of Denise and Natalie's fans are ugly? May I ask how?

You've got a lot of anger inside, haven't you? Is school stressful? :o

I'm not a teacher and i would have thought my username, might indicate i'm not a student! But the post was a bit over the top and let's be honest, stupid.

[buckfast67uk]

Denise and Frankie were by far the worst culprits out of it all. Jealousy and anger fueled them. Horrible people.

I've already said this elsewhere, but Frankie wasn't involved to "stick up for Denise", he was seeking airtime.

He added nothing of value to the argument and to be brutally honest he inflamed the situation. He knows fine well that Karissa and Kistina are repulsed by him and his ego can't take it. He saw an opportunity to get involved, knowing fine well it would make matters worse. But it got him airtime, so job done. Not as dumb as he looks

[InOne]

I've already said this elsewhere, but Frankie wasn't involved to "stick up for Denise", he was seeking airtime.

He added nothing of value to the argument and to be brutally honest he inflamed the situation. He knows fine well that Karissa and Kistina are repulsed by him and his ego can't take it. He saw an opportunity to get involved, knowing fine well it would make matters worse. But it got him airtime, so job done. Not as dumb as he looks

He was there to put the boot in to the twins basically. He even said it when they were in the DR.

[Niamh.]

You're quite right, that was out of order. Get a bit carried away on here at times! Apologies

Someone accepting that they were wrong and apologising, that's refreshing! :love:

[SourMango]

Yes and your point??

Do you think if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers that Georgia would have been ok with it?? No she would be a bit humiliated most likely. So why is it different for the twins?

What part of consent dont you understand. However ridiculous and contradictory it might seem to others, the twins have as much right to respect and decency as anyone else in there. Or do you think that women who behave in a certain way professionally are 'asking for it' when treated like trash by others?

My point about consent is that Karissa had already consented to having her arse cheek shown on Big Brother.

[Kazanne]

I've already said this elsewhere, but Frankie wasn't involved to "stick up for Denise", he was seeking airtime.

He added nothing of value to the argument and to be brutally honest he inflamed the situation. He knows fine well that Karissa and Kistina are repulsed by him and his ego can't take it. He saw an opportunity to get involved, knowing fine well it would make matters worse. But it got him airtime, so job done. Not as dumb as he looks

You can't read Frankies mind,so it's all about what YOU think some of us don't think that way,imo Frankie likes Denise and probably felt sorry for her being ganged up on as he saw it,Frankie said what he thought,i doubt there was any alterior motive,many of you would have us believe he is not 'bright' enough to think of that !! make your minds up

[Ammi]

I think threatening BB with a lawsuit was overreacting yes, but I think Karissa was still so annoyed that part just escalated and she got more and more upset, hence the threats. Because of this the emphasis is being put on Karissa and how she reacted in the diary room and the house reaction. This is taking the emphasis away from Denise and what she did, which started the whole ball rolling in the first place. She behaved like a stupid, drunken, imature, thoughtless, disrespectful child...and if she had not...none of it would have happened. And that's what Frankie failed to grasp. Whether Karissa overreacted or Kristina and Nicola got involved is the result of Denise's imbecile behaviour....and that is the point

[buckfast67uk]

You can't read Frankies mind,so it's all about what YOU think some of us don't think that way,imo Frankie likes Denise and probably felt sorry for her being ganged up on as he saw it,Frankie said what he thought,i doubt there was any alterior motive,many of you would have us believe he is not 'bright' enough to think of that !! make your minds up

You're absolutely right, it's all about opinions, that's just how i read the situation. Without being clairvoyants none of us can really know!

But this is why this is my favourite form of reality tv, real people in real situations and no script. It's compelling viewing. Especially this series

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[SourMango]

How about comparing showing a bit of arse cheek on a tv show and unintentionally showing a bit of arse cheek on the same tv show?

But making a huge fuss about the second one.

My point about consent is that Karissa had already consented to having her arse cheek shown on Big Brother.

Doesn't anybody want to call me sexist?

Make use of the fact that when Karissa says pants we hear knickers even though she means trousers?

Claim that what I've said is tantamount to justifying rape?

No?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.
Nar mate it's not about game play! What if a man had done that? Would it have been ok for the girl to feel violated then?

Denise crossed the line! Period! Maybe it made it even worst that they didn't like her in the first place but still, it is never ok for a 53 yr old woman or anyone to pull anyone pants down. I don't care if the girl in question did gangbang bangfest world wide volume 5 :bawling:

[arista]

She said straight away she wasnt ok with that, then even after that Denise went to do it again........


Yes Pissed Hag Denise had a Idea of what she wanted in the Papers
but it backfired.


As they are Classy Yanks
that will look bad next to a 53 year old Nutter.



They Have a Right to worry about Images
as they have Hot Ass