Why does Michael tell such blatant lies?

[Knitting Nana]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

[Locke.]

Nicola did say to the room that she was pressing it and is everyone ok with it, I just don't think anyone replied

[chuff me dizzy]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

Glad someone else noticed this ,they didnt speak out as they have no backbones ,Nicola had just said herself she DIDNT ask anyone ,then he jumped in and said she had, then when he was outside with Denise he said she had not !! :devil::devil::devil:

[Jezzy]

Not at all, Michael said he would back her up if she did it, because if she hadn't, he would have. That's the only reason he commented at all in last night's argument.

[Patricia4]

Michael told her if you dont do it I would of.

[Monkey Slut]

Nicola did say to the room that she was pressing it and is everyone ok with it, I just don't think anyone replied

Yeah she did and Michael said that if she didn't press it, he would. Romeo was there but he didn't speak up.....

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah she did and Michael said that if she didn't press it, he would. Romeo was there but he didn't speak up.....

AFTER she had pressed it,not before

[Monkey Slut]

AFTER she had pressed it,not before

What difference does that make?

[chuff me dizzy]

What difference does that make?

A lot

[Monkey Slut]

A lot

Ah. :idc:

[Cherie]

She did tell them all what she was going to do BEFORE she pressed the button, she didnt jump up unannounced and press it....and if we are going down the no backbone route...why did Denise say...I dont need my letter, I KNOW my boys love me....if she really wanted her letter...where was her backbone?

[armand.kay]

In the time they had to talk about it she said to everyone she is going to pressing the button, no one replied.

[Knitting Nana]

Lordy - for those giving all the comments that were said AFTER the button was pushed: I said in my op about nicola not consulting everyone before she shredded the letters.

The comments given AFTERWARDS do not count as consulting. She was already on her feet and doing it while she said she was going to do she didnt wait for anyone's comments. She didnt give anyone time to speak.

As big brother were reading out the rules Kirk said 'oh they can have their letters' then a few seconds later someone else says 'I'm not saving mine' then nicola says 'they havent got children, people with children should have the letters. Go, I'm doing it, I want my letter. She does not 'consult' them at all she TELLS them she's going to do then immediately does it.

And michael lied about it.

[chuff me dizzy]

lordy - for those giving all the comments that were said after the button was pushed: I said in my op about nicola not consulting everyone before she shredded the letters.

The comments given afterwards do not count as consulting. She was already on her feet and doing it while she said she was going to do she didnt wait for anyone's comments. She didnt give anyone time to speak.

As big brother were reading out the rules kirk said 'oh they can have their letters' then a few seconds later someone else says 'i'm not saving mine' then nicola says 'they havent got children, people with children should have the letters. Go, i'm doing it, i want my letter. She does not 'consult' them at all she tells them she's going to do then immediately does it.

And michael lied about it.
exactly

[JonRC]

what are you people watching? I clearly saw her discussing - AT LENGTH - that she would push the button when the time started, they DID discuss it and Mike DID say he would back her

[vortex]

Nicola did say she was gonna press the buzzer, it's not like she jumped without consulting, nobody opposed to her, so they were agreeing in silence but still Denise agreed with her group to let the other housemates have their letter so her complain makes no sense.

[Cherie]

Nicola did say she was gonna press the buzzer, it's not like she jumped without consulting, nobody opposed to her, so they were agreeing in silence but still Denise agreed with her group to let the other housemates have their letter so her complain makes no sense.

This ....:wavey:

[Niamh.]

It wasn't a lie, she said to everyone before the time started that she was going to do it -which is consulting- none of them said Oh No Nicola don't do it:conf:

[calyman]

It seems to me the main reason for Denise's gripe was the speed at which Nicola pressed the shredder buzzer. No time for reflection, consideration, empathy with the other group, in fact an absence of those same things which Denise's group actually took time to consider. In that manner, Denise does have a right to criticise Nicola's selfish reaction.

[icecakes]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

Who cares:idc:

[Pyramid*]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

Glad someone else noticed this ,they didnt speak out as they have no backbones ,Nicola had just said herself she DIDNT ask anyone ,then he jumped in and said she had, then when he was outside with Denise he said she had not !! :devil::devil::devil:

I really have to question whether both of you are watching the same show?

Before the clock began ticking - there were a few minutes in which each team discussed what they would do. Nicola made it clear that she wanted her letter- made this very vocal to her group and NOT ONE OF THEM spoke up to say no. Not one of them said they disagreed. Not one of them objected to what Nicola said she was going to do, very very clearly. Not one. Whether you think they had backbones or not Chuff, the FACT is: not one of them objected.

When she did press the button - Michael then told her not to be upset because he she hadn't pressed it - He would have.

It's better to discuss what actually happened, instead of twisting the truth to suit you.

[bba50]

I really have to question whether both of you are watching the same show?

Before the clock began ticking - there were a few minutes in which each team discussed what they would do. Nicola made it clear that she wanted her letter- made this very vocal to her group and NOT ONE OF THEM spoke up to say no. Not one of them said they disagreed. Not one of them objected to what Nicola said she was going to do, very very clearly. Not one. Whether you think they had backbones or not Chuff, the FACT is: not one of them objected.

When she did press the button - Michael then told her not to be upset because he she hadn't pressed it - He would have.

It's better to discuss what actually happened, instead of twisting the truth to suit you.

well said

[Livia]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??

When the task was read out by Big Brother, and before the time started to count down, Nicola said, more than once, that she wanted her letter and was going to press the button. I did not hear one person say, no, that's not the right thing to do. Probably because they all wanted their letters.

Did YOU forget it's on film? You would make a terrible witness. Let's hope you're never called.

[Livia]

It seems to me the main reason for Denise's gripe was the speed at which Nicola pressed the shredder buzzer. No time for reflection, consideration, empathy with the other group, in fact an absence of those same things which Denise's group actually took time to consider. In that manner, Denise does have a right to criticise Nicola's selfish reaction.

Can't say I agree... but I do like your Klimt.

[Beso]

They did discuss it. Michael was correct to but in.

[kefln]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??
They discussed it for about 5-10 mins before the clock started.

Nicola said straight away that she was going to push the button. No one objected, which in any court of law means consent. I think what no one expected was for Nicola to react so quickly to the count down.

Meanwhile, in the task room, the other HM's had agreed not to push the button at any cost. Therefore acknowledging the fact that they were ok with not getting their personal letters.

After coming out of the task room they all hugged Nicola and said that they were ok with it. And as far as I can remember Denise supported her 100% by saying that she was thinking of the fact that Nicola had younger kids to worry about.

[dyfed]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??
Michael is in his own crazy world .:spin2:

[lostalex]

She discussed it with the group before she did it, and the group supported her. All of the members of her group had plenty of time to tell her off, or disagree with her, but none did, so Nicola was not lying, and neither was Michael.

[kefln]

Michael is in his own crazy world .:spin2:
Dyfed, on your signature pic...from that thread that was deleted...

Can the twins blame the Denise for this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/23/article-2090486-116A25CB000005DC-496_634x405.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/23/article-2090486-116A25C3000005DC-588_634x407.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/23/article-2090486-116A25CF000005DC-422_634x471.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/23/article-2090486-116A24E1000005DC-605_634x465.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/23/article-2090486-116A25BF000005DC-201_634x350.jpg

Because if these actions were done by a drunk 53 year old man, he'd be out of the house in a heart beat. But because the girls are who they are and Denise plays the victim so very well, we have people putting signatures like yours up...

Just a thought.

[chuff me dizzy]

Michael is in his own crazy world .:spin2:

Add to that his head is razzled through drink ,drugs ,and hopefully guilt over failing to keep his children and failure to pay back the £ms he owes his ex mates and youve summed it up right

[kefln]

She discussed it with the group before she did it, and the group supported her. All of the members of her group had plenty of time to tell her off, or disagree with her, but none did, so Nicola was not lying, and neither was Michael.
Well said.

[Livia]

Add to that his head is razzled through drink ,drugs ,and hopefully guilt over failing to keep his children and failure to pay back the £ms he owes his ex mates and youve summed it up right

You really do believe every bit of gossip on the net, don't you. Well, so long as it's confirming your own dislikes of course.

[chuff me dizzy]

You really do believe every bit of gossip on the net, don't you. Well, so long as it's confirming your own dislikes of course.

:idc:

[Livia]

:idc:

Mature.

[rusticgal]

Nicola did say to the room that she was pressing it and is everyone ok with it, I just don't think anyone replied


Correct...they had a couple of minutes before the task started and Nicola just talked about how much she wanted her letter and tried to justify that they all had kids.... she asked the others if they were ok with it but they all looked a little uncomfortable and said very little.

So Michael was right but he didnt explain it as it was....

[chuff me dizzy]

If anyone still thinks the CBB crown will go over the pond,think again Uk voters will NOT allow it ,watch this as just one reason why http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbrother-uk/article/Day-21-Eviction-morning/

[lostalex]

If anyone still thinks the CBB crown will go over the pond,think again Uk voters will NOT allow it ,watch this as just one reason why http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbrother-uk/article/Day-21-Eviction-morning/


I Agree. There's no way the UK public would ever allow an American to win. But not for the reasons YOU are trying to say. For sinister xenophobic reasons.

[chuff me dizzy]

I Agree. There's no way the UK public would ever allow an American to win. But not for the reasons YOU are trying to say. For sinister xenophobic reasons.

:bored::idc:

[Knitting Nana]

Before Nicola decided for everyone else at least two people said ‘they can have their letters' (meaning the other group) and ‘I’m not saving mine’. She didn’t consult anyone she said ‘I’m doing it, I want my letter’ and immediately did it - that is not consultation.

As she’s pressing the button Kirk can clearly be heard saying ‘i cant do it, i cant do that to gareth’ (who is in the other group) Romeo also says ‘I cant, I cant.'

[Ellen]

Before Nicola decided for everyone else at least two people said ‘they can have their letters' (meaning the other group) and ‘I’m not saving mine’. She didn’t consult anyone she said ‘I’m doing it, I want my letter’ and immediately did it - that is not consultation.

As she’s pressing the button Kirk can clearly be heard saying ‘i cant do it, i cant do that to gareth’ (who is in the other group) Romeo also says ‘I cant, I cant.'

Nicola did say before the coundown began that she wanted her letter, noone said no to her.
Kirk & Romeo said they could not shred, still noone said anything to Nicola.
They all knew what her intentions were before the coundown began.

[chuff me dizzy]

Before Nicola decided for everyone else at least two people said ‘they can have their letters' (meaning the other group) and ‘I’m not saving mine’. She didn’t consult anyone she said ‘I’m doing it, I want my letter’ and immediately did it - that is not consultation.

As she’s pressing the button Kirk can clearly be heard saying ‘i cant do it, i cant do that to gareth’ (who is in the other group) Romeo also says ‘I cant, I cant.'

One second ,hardly time to discuss anything ,thats why she pretended to be a quivering wreck afterwards

[JonRC]

One second ,hardly time to discuss anything

what on earth are you watching? cos I clearly saw them talking about it for quite a while before the countdown started

[Ellen]

They had time before the countdown began which is when Nicola said what she wanted to do.
If it had been me i would have said you cant make that decision, we need to discuss it has a group.
Noone said no to her so she did it.

[RodHull]

Lordy - for those giving all the comments that were said AFTER the button was pushed: I said in my op about nicola not consulting everyone before she shredded the letters.

The comments given AFTERWARDS do not count as consulting. She was already on her feet and doing it while she said she was going to do she didnt wait for anyone's comments. She didnt give anyone time to speak.

As big brother were reading out the rules Kirk said 'oh they can have their letters' then a few seconds later someone else says 'I'm not saving mine' then nicola says 'they havent got children, people with children should have the letters. Go, I'm doing it, I want my letter. She does not 'consult' them at all she TELLS them she's going to do then immediately does it.

And michael lied about it.

You need to watch that again me old fruit...

As soon as the rules became clear and they had about 1 minute BEFORE the timer started Nicola said (along the lines of)

"Im really sorry guys I know this is selfish but I have to get my letters, Im going to press it"

Michael quietly agreed, Natalie sat on the fence (im sure she wanted hers to) Kirk dithered a bit and ONLY romeo said he wasnt comfortable with it.

WATCH it again before shooting off rubbish about lies which actually werent lies at all.

The FACT is that they did know before she pressed it and none of them backed her up despite Denise being flat out wrong. Denise was also told by Gareth that none of them should press it cause Nicola and Natalie needed their letters, a point she agreed with COMPLETELY at the time and later said to Nicolas face she was happy she pressed it.

Denise was just looking for ammo to deflect attention from her own drunken pathetic behaviour and this was it.

[Niamh.]

If anyone still thinks the CBB crown will go over the pond,think again Uk voters will NOT allow it ,watch this as just one reason why http://apps.facebook.com/celeb-bigbrother-uk/article/Day-21-Eviction-morning/

I Agree. There's no way the UK public would ever allow an American to win. But not for the reasons YOU are trying to say. For sinister xenophobic reasons.

Can you two please cut it it out. Anyone making xenophobic comments will be infracted.

[lostalex]

Can you two please cut it it out. Anyone making xenophobic comments will be infracted.

well i've never made anything even remotely close to a xenophobic comment, so i know you arn't talking to me.

[Niamh.]

well i've never made anything even remotely close to a xenophobic comment, so i know you arn't talking to me.

No, I was just letting you know that we are clamping down on it and be sure to report any comments that you think are xenophobic.

[lostalex]

sounds fair to me.

[supergirthuk]

Mike did not lie in this matter. Denise lied saying that she wasn't bothered about a letter when she so obviously was.

One thing is certain though, Denise won't be friends with Nicola after the show when she sees her pressing that button saying "Shred, Shred, Shred, Shred..." as she did it.

Lucky Nicola if you ask me. Who needs an idiot like Welch as your friend anyway?

[supergirthuk]

Denise was just looking for ammo to deflect attention from her own drunken pathetic behaviour and this was it.

Exactly this.

[supergirthuk]

Can you two please cut it it out. Anyone making xenophobic comments will be infracted.

Well that's the entire BBBots team and audience for a start. Good call fella.

[Marc]

What other lies has he said?

[Niamh.]

Well that's the entire BBBots team and audience for a start. Good call fella.

Luckily they're not members here ;) and I'm not a fella :nono:

[Ammi]

Luckily they're not members here ;) and I'm not a fella :nono:

....I thought you'd been holding out on us there

[supergirthuk]

Luckily they're not members here ;) and I'm not a fella :nono:

Oops sorry. :)

[supergirthuk]

I can't recall Michael actually lying at all. Why would he? However his home truths for Denise deserve him to win the show. She is emotionally disturbed and does need to get help.

[supergirthuk]

The dictionary definition of Consult is a. To seek advice or information of b. To refer to. Nicola did seek advice in that she put out there her intention to press the button and sought comment from others otherwise she would not have announced her intentions and just have silently pressed the button. Therefore Michael is correct in saying that she consulted the group and hence did not blatantly lie.

Incidentally, the definition of Blatantly is
1. glaringly conspicuous or obvious a blatant lie
2. offensively noticeable blatant disregard for a person's feelings
3. offensively noisy
None of which apply in this case as there would be no possible discussion or arguement to it if it were blatant.

[Livia]

The Michael haters are getting a little desperate... that's all.

[supergirthuk]

The Michael haters are getting a little desperate... that's all.

I agree. I feel he has been one of the best housemates we've had from foreign shores and certainly one of the most persecuted by his fellow housemates. The truth is just not acceptable to some people.

[Livia]

I agree. I feel he has been one of the best housemates we've had from foreign shores and certainly one of the most persecuted by his fellow housemates. The truth is just not acceptable to some people.

I agree. Madsen's been amazing. Those who hate Michael so much probably prefer people who have made a real contribution to entertainment. You know, Callum Best and the Kardashians, that type.

[SoBig]

Thats three out n out lies I've heard him tell, the last one being last night saying that nicola HAD consulted everyone before she shredded the letters.

Does he forget its all on film? Does he just not care?

I cant remember who was in the room at the time he said this but if anyone else from that (letters) group was there why didnt they speak up??
They did talk about it before she pushed it.

[Glenn.]

Michael lays around all day and talks to himself. Hardly the source of entertainment.:bored:

[Livia]

Michael lays around all day and talks to himself. Hardly the source of entertainment.:bored:

Whereas the others.... erm.... remind me what they do again?

[Glenn.]

They include themselves in things.

The lights in the house have been more entertaining than Michael.

[Ammi]

It's funny how Michael is a blatent liar for siding with Nicola over the buzzer ...yet Frankie is a gentleman for siding with Denise over her unacceptable behaviour......funny that

[kefln]

Denise was also told by Gareth that none of them should press it cause Nicola and Natalie needed their letters, a point she agreed with COMPLETELY at the time and later said to Nicolas face she was happy she pressed it.
Denise was only "unhappy" with it when she needed something to throw in Nicola's face.

There is logic, there is what happened and there is what people like to remember.

[Glenn.]

It's funny how Michael is a blatent liar for siding with Nicola over the buzzer ...yet Frankie is a gentleman for siding with Denise over her unacceptable behaviour......funny that

He sided with her because there were two people screaming at one person?

Or maybe you think thats ok?

[Ammi]

He sided with her because there were two people screaming at one person?

Or maybe you think thats ok?

Nicola was removing Kristina into the garden and only stopped and said 'ok Denise' because Denise as usual will not give anyone any space and pushes and prods in her drunken oblivion, until she gets a reaction....I have absolutely zero sympathy for her

[Livia]

They include themselves in things.

The lights in the house have been more entertaining than Michael.

Amazing that he's got so many supporters then, really, isn't it.

I have no idea why you would find masculine, successful, attractive Michael Madsen boring, I really dont.

[Glenn.]

Amazing that he's got so many supporters then, really, isn't it.

I have no idea why you would find masculine, successful, attractive Michael Madsen boring, I really dont.


Michael is boring:joker:

Maybe we're watching two different shows? :conf:

[Josy]

Michael lays around all day and talks to himself. Hardly the source of entertainment.:bored:

If you follow twitter and facebook you will see thats not true at all, but I have said this numerous times and even pasted stuff from both of those sites to prove it but the fact is the people who dislike Michael have no interest because they just want to make up **** about him :idc:

[kefln]

He sided with her because there were two people screaming at one person?

Or maybe you think thats ok?
Really?

Who were the two people?

Twin #1 was in the diary room.

Twin #2 was pissed off but not screaming, I don't think she was even shouting at that point.

Nicola was leading Twin #2 out the door when Frankie chirped in.

And Frankie said afterwards that he only got involved to get a rise out of them...

[Livia]

Michael is boring:joker:

Maybe we're watching two different shows? :conf:

I am not alone in thinking he's great and you are very much in the minority when you say he's boring. So... maybe you're the one watching the wrong show. Or maybe you're one of those who didn't know who he was when he went in? In any case, for how much longer do you want to keep up this ridiculous ping-pong?

[Glenn.]

Really?

Who were the two people?

Twin #1 was in the diary room.

Twin #2 was pissed off but not screaming, I don't think she was even shouting at that point.

Nicola was leading Twin #2 out the door when Frankie chirped in.

And Frankie said afterwards that he only got involved to get a rise out of them...

Twin 2 and Nicola was screaming at Denise and Frankie was on the sofa's. Twin 2 was also screaming at Frankie to 'Shut up' coz it didn't concern him. The same could also be said for Nicola who had no place in the argument at all.

[Angus]

He sided with her because there were two people screaming at one person?

Or maybe you think thats ok?

The last thing Denise needs is people constantly apologising on her behalf for her persistent unacceptable behaviour. Let's hope when she watches this show back she will get a reality check and go get the help she so obviously needs instead of taking the easy option and allowing her friends, family and fans to constantly shield her from the unpleasant truth that she is a depressive alcoholic who is going to have a very sad and sickly future if she carries on being in denial.

[Ammi]

The last thing Denise needs is people constantly apologising on her behalf for her persistent unacceptable behaviour. Let's hope when she watches this show back she will get a reality check and go get the help she so obviously needs instead of taking the easy option and allowing her friends, family and fans to constantly shield her from the unpleasant truth that she is a depressive alcoholic who is going to have a very sad and sickly future if she carries on being in denial.

....sadly...I think she will learn nothing

[Monkey Slut]

I'm wondering if this would've been made if it was Romeo that told Denise instead of Michael. He was there for the shredding as well but had nothing to say. It didn't require him taking sides, just confirm what Nicola had said.

[Ammi]

I'm wondering if this would've been made if it was Romeo that told Denise instead of Michael. He was there for the shredding as well but had nothing to say. It didn't require him taking sides, just confirm what Nicola had said.
...no, of course it wouldn't silly billy

[kefln]

Twin 2 and Nicola was screaming at Denise and Frankie was on the sofa's. Twin 2 was also screaming at Frankie to 'Shut up' coz it didn't concern him. The same could also be said for Nicola who had no place in the argument at all.
Twin #2 and Nicola were going out the door when Frankie got involved, not screaming at anyone...

AND Frankie said that he got involved only to wind them up

Its hard to argue his motives, when he's admitted to them...

[supergirthuk]

The last thing Denise needs is people constantly apologising on her behalf for her persistent unacceptable behaviour. Let's hope when she watches this show back she will get a reality check and go get the help she so obviously needs instead of taking the easy option and allowing her friends, family and fans to constantly shield her from the unpleasant truth that she is a depressive alcoholic who is going to have a very sad and sickly future if she carries on being in denial.

I agree. I do not think she will though. I also think that the people backing her and supporting her are actually doing her no favours in that she needs more people telling her the truth as Michael did when he nominated her.

She is emotionally disturbed. This is a blatant truth.

[Pyramid*]

One second ,hardly time to discuss anything ,thats why she pretended to be a quivering wreck afterwards

Chuff seriously - what show are you watching because it sure as hell aint' the same show everyone else is viewing. Both groups had minutes to discuss the situation - BEFORE the clock starting the 15min countdown. BEFORE the countdown.

After these minutes BEFORE THE CLOCK STARTED TICKING, both groups were seen and heard discussing what numerous fms have explained in detail to you - but you have your blinkers on and appear to refuse to acknowledge this very crucial part of it all.

When the clock started ticking: it was only then that Nicola went up immediately and pressed the buzzer. Not during the convos, not before the clock started ticking. She didn't make her decision in one second. She took one second to reach to the buzzer - the decision had been made - by the group - given their lack of objection to knowing what Nicola wanted to do: none of them raised an objection.

[Truth Teller]

I really have to question whether both of you are watching the same show?

Before the clock began ticking - there were a few minutes in which each team discussed what they would do. Nicola made it clear that she wanted her letter- made this very vocal to her group and NOT ONE OF THEM spoke up to say no. Not one of them said they disagreed. Not one of them objected to what Nicola said she was going to do, very very clearly. Not one. Whether you think they had backbones or not Chuff, the FACT is: not one of them objected.

When she did press the button - Michael then told her not to be upset because he she hadn't pressed it - He would have.

It's better to discuss what actually happened, instead of twisting the truth to suit you.

Alleluia sister:xyxwave:. MM doesn't lie - actually he's probably the most honest in there......

Nicola told everyone in her group she was going o press the buzzer before the timer started. I would suggest those who are having memory failure should rewatch on ch5 website:spin: