His age.

[Mystic Mock]

I am seriously getting fed up of people excusing Frankie's behaviour because of his age,if you don't think his old enough to be judged on his actions then he shouldn't be on BB.

Also i'm 3 years younger than him and I don't say anywhere near the vile stuff that this prick comes out with,neither do my friends.

Get the Chav out.

[lostalex]

He shouldn't even be allowed in the house. You have to be 21 to be on most US reality shows.

[Smithy]

He shouldn't even be allowed in the house. You have to be 21 to be on most US reality shows.

Well this isn't a US reality TV show

[Saph]

I dont see whats so outrageous about him to be honest :s He's made a few sexist comments but thats just humour to most boys that age..

[chuff me dizzy]

Well this isn't a US reality TV show

AND he is in there and he will win too !! :dance:

[Ammi]

It's laughanle that Jay was disliked and Frankie is praised when basically they're the same person....Jankie

[Saph]

He shouldn't even be allowed in the house. You have to be 21 to be on most US reality shows.

..:laugh3:

[chuff me dizzy]

He shouldn't even be allowed in the house. You have to be 21 to be on most US reality shows.

Please check the map, it is a BRITISH show

[Roy Mars III]

He is a normal guy.

[Mystic Mock]

I dont see whats so outrageous about him to be honest :s He's made a few sexist comments but thats just humour to most boys that age..

No as me and my friends talk about stuff like girls but not as vile and crude as Jay Mckray's cousin does.

[Saph]

No as me and my friends talk about stuff like girls but not as vile and crude as Jay Mckray's cousin does.

Well thats you, and thats him sooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. :evilgrin:

[Livia]

I am seriously getting fed up of people excusing Frankie's behaviour because of his age,if you don't think his old enough to be judged on his actions then he shouldn't be on BB.

Also i'm 3 years younger than him and I don't say anywhere near the vile stuff that this prick comes out with,neither do my friends.

Get the Chav out.

I'm completely with you on this one JF. I don't think Frankie is typical of young men.

[Mystic Mock]

Well thats you, and thats him sooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. :evilgrin:

:joker:

But in all seriousness Frankie seems to be getting away with alot that Jay Mckray couldn't even get away with last year,i'm just waiting for Frankie to take a dump where his not suppose to next.

[Angus]

I dont see whats so outrageous about him to be honest :s He's made a few sexist comments but thats just humour to most boys that age..

No it isn't "just humour", it's ingrained sexist attitudes being passed down from generation to generation by knobs like Frankie and Kirk. So long as it's being excused and accepted, nothing will ever change. It is now illegal to make racist and homophobic comments and charges can be pressed against those who make them. It's about time the same could be said about sexist remarks - that's the only way morons like Frankie will ever learn. They need to know unequivocally that such attitudes in this day and age are totally unacceptable.

[Josy]

Imagine if Frankie was a young girl talking like that..........

[chuff me dizzy]

No it isn't "just humour", it's ingrained sexist attitudes being passed down from generation to generation by knobs like Frankie and Kirk. So long as it's being excused and accepted, nothing will ever change. It is now illegal to make racist and homophobic comments and charges can be pressed against those who make them. It's about time the same could be said about sexist remarks - that's the only way morons like Frankie will ever learn. They need to know unequivocally that such attitudes in this day and age are totally unacceptable.

:bored:

[chuff me dizzy]

Imagine if Frankie was a young girl talking like that..........

Buts hes not

[lostalex]

Please check the map, it is a BRITISH show

...cause i didn't know that. shame on me for comparing and contrasting... SOME people might find it interesting to learn about the differences in cultures and countries. not you obviously. (and Americans are insular??)

[Mystic Mock]

Buts hes not

I get what Josy is trying to say and I think you do aswell,but you are choosing to ignore it.

[Josy]

Buts hes not

Yeah I know and I have nothing against Frankie but I do think its double standards tbh if it was a young girl making comments like Frankie has there would be an uproar imo and it would not matter if she was young.

[chuff me dizzy]

...cause i didn't know that. shame on me for comparing and contrasting... SOME people might find it interesting to learn about the differences in cultures and countries. not you obviously. (and Americans are insular??)

Naaaah thanks :bored:

[Brother Leon]

I'm a month younger than him and I talk about sex nearly as much, as do alot of my friends. Its no big deal for me as long as I'm not making a female feel awkward while being in the room lol.

[Jords]

I think hes just trying hard to come across a 'LAD', I dont care though hes alreet.

[Kizzy]

he is as up himself as they come, doesent he have names of conquests tattooed on his bum?... says it all really. I hope he has used his time in the house for some reflection and personal growth...stop laffin! :)

[Mystic Mock]

I'm a month younger than him and I talk about sex nearly as much, as do alot of my friends. Its no big deal for me as long as I'm not making a female feel awkward while being in the room lol.

On what i've seen of you on here though King Anton you are not in the same league as him,I obviously don't know you away from here so can't possibly comment but I imagine that you don't make women as uncomfortable as Frankie did with one of the Twins.

[chuff me dizzy]

On what i've seen of you on here though King Anton you are not in the same league as him,I obviously don't know you away from here so can't possibly comment but I imagine that you don't make women as uncomfortable as Frankie did with one of the Twins.

The twins who slept with a pensioner for money ,made a sex tape and flash their tits for a living ?

[Mystic Mock]

The twins who slept with a pensioner for money ,made a sex tape and flash their tits for a living ?

Hey i'm not to keen on them either,but still what he was doing to them was wrong as they kept telling him no,ok I wouldn't go as far as one of the posters a few days ago and start calling him a rapist but it's pretty disturbing imo.

[chuff me dizzy]

Hey i'm not to keen on them either,but still what he was doing to them was wrong as they kept telling him no,ok I wouldn't go as far as one of the posters calling him a rapist but it's pretty disturbing imo.

Rapist ? tell me you are joking

[MTVN]

He does talk about sex a lot and he doesn't leave that much to the imagination either, but I don't really see a problem with it, his age is relevant; he's 19, he doesn't really have any responsibilities in life; drinking and women are his main interests which is understandable. I do think he shouldn't be so vocal about it round the Twins though, or anyone else who gets really uncomfortable with it.

[chuff me dizzy]

He does talk about sex a lot and he doesn't leave that much to the imagination either, but I don't really see a problem with it, his age is relevant; he's 19, he doesn't really have any responsibilities in life; drinking and women are his main interests which is understandable. I do think he shouldn't be so vocal about it round the Twins though, or anyone else who gets really uncomfortable with it.

If it was 2 sweet virgins he was saying lads stuff too it would be different, but to claim youve got morals and are"classy" with what the Shannon have fitted into their 22 years is a bit rich

[Glenn.]

Most 19yr olds talk like Frankie. It's nothing out of the ordinary.

[Mystic Mock]

Rapist ? tell me you are joking

Re-read that part of the post again please?

[Ramsay]

Im 20 years old and 2 of my best friends are girls but i talk about wanking and sex alot..they dont mind it at all so i dont know why you singling out frankie

[Jamie.]

a) This is NOT a US show lol
b) FRANKIE TO WIIIN!!!!1 (Deliberate 1)

[InOne]

If it was 2 sweet virgins he was saying lads stuff too it would be different, but to claim youve got morals and are"classy" with what the Shannon have fitted into their 22 years is a bit rich

Your logic is nonsense and pretty disturbing. All the stuff you say dangers very closely to the "they were dressed like slags so deserve to be raped" view.

[Mystic Mock]

Most 19yr olds talk like Frankie. It's nothing out of the ordinary.

There's a difference between acting laddish to being creepy.

[chuff me dizzy]

Re-read that part of the post again please?

I read it right the first time, to even hint that Frankie is a rapist is sick

[Mystic Mock]

Your logic is nonsense and pretty disturbing. All the stuff you say dangers very closely to the "they were dressed like slags so deserve to be raped" view.

I would like to think that even Frankie has higher morales than that.:joker:

I would also like to think that Chuff Me Dizzy wouldn't think like what your saying either.:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Your logic is nonsense and pretty disturbing. All the stuff you say dangers very closely to the "they were dressed like slags so deserve to be raped" view.

As i have said countless times ,but will say again "To earn respect from others,you must first respect yourself"

[Jamie.]

Stop using the word 'Rape' please, its not a topic we should discuss on an open-forum

[Mystic Mock]

I read it right the first time, to even hint that Frankie is a rapist is sick

No you didn't as this is what I exactly said.

Hey i'm not to keen on them either,but still what he was doing to them was wrong as they kept telling him no,ok I wouldn't go as far as one of the posters a few days ago and start calling him a rapist but it's pretty disturbing imo.

So what your saying is incorrect and putting words in my mouth.:nono:

[InOne]

As i have said countless times ,but will say again "To earn respect from others,you must first respect yourself"

But they do respect themselves... More than can be said for some of the women in there

[chuff me dizzy]

No you didn't as this is what I exactly said.

Hey i'm not to keen on them either,but still what he was doing to them was wrong as they kept telling him no,ok I wouldn't go as far as one of the posters a few days ago and start calling him a rapist but it's pretty disturbing imo.

So what your saying is incorrect and putting words in my mouth.:nono:

No you are wrong, if you didnt agree with what someone else wrote, why quote it ?

[Bollo]

He shouldn't even be allowed in the house. You have to be 21 to be on most US reality shows.

yeah, I understand what you're saying but I think this is because the general coming of age in the uk is 18, whereas in the U.S it's 21 and also it might have something to do with the legal drinking ages as well. For some reason we have historically had younger drinking and smoking ages here in the uk, I'm not saying it's right but it might be the reason why the age limits differ..

[chuff me dizzy]

But they do respect themselves... More than can be said for some of the women in there

Are you sure about that ? :suspect:

[Mystic Mock]

No you are wrong, if you didnt agree with what someone else wrote, why quote it ?

Incase you thought I was apart of that clique,and also if that poster came back to say it again.

I think Frankie is many things but his certainly not a rapist.

[Roy Mars III]

Just because they lived in the playboy manison and have posed for magazines doesn't mean they don't resepct themselves.

[chuff me dizzy]

Just because they lived in the playboy manison and have posed for magazines doesn't mean they don't resepct themselves.

Roy !! they went in playboy mansion as girlfriends of a pensioner ,not to make the tea

[Roy Mars III]

Roy !! they went in playboy mansion as girlfriends of a pensioner ,not to make the tea

What does that have to do with respecting themselves. They wanted fame, just like many others.

[majomartin]

Calling Frankie a "rapist" is a little bit too much. I really didnt think the jokes he told were that sexist, most of boys in my class tell that type of joke, they dont do it in a bad way or to offend, they're just stupid.

[MTVN]

What does that have to do with respecting themselves. They wanted fame, just like many others.

Yeah exactly, they went in there for a bit of fame, a bit of cash, and to be able to appear on their own TV show, they always said they were just doing it for fun

[InOne]

Are you sure about that ? :suspect:

Yes, look at Denise and Nicola for example.

[chuff me dizzy]

They were 19 years old, but constantly tell Frankie hes a "boy" at the same age they were sleeping with Hefner ,what was their Mother thinking of for allowing them to do it "In 2008, the Shannons moved into the Playboy Mansion as two of Hugh Hefner's three new girlfriends;" From wiki

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah exactly, they went in there for a bit of fame, a bit of cash, and to be able to appear on their own TV show, they always said they were just doing it for fun

They were 2 or his 3 girlfriends

[Kazanne]

I am seriously getting fed up of people excusing Frankie's behaviour because of his age,if you don't think his old enough to be judged on his actions then he shouldn't be on BB.

Also i'm 3 years younger than him and I don't say anywhere near the vile stuff that this prick comes out with,neither do my friends.

Get the Chav out.

Jedward,you are one of a very few lads like that,kudos to your parents for bringing you up so well,Frankie has probably had a very different up bringing and tbh I have seen you post some choice words yourself,lol,none of us are perfect.I dont like Frankies crudeness but dont let his bad traits overshadow what are his good points,you are a nice lad Jedward and with the proper guidance I think Frankie could be too,I am shocked at myself as to how much I like Frankie,he really annoys me sometimes and I could shake him,but I also see someone who underneath all that bluster is a nice lad,no his age is no excuse but lots of lads today are sex mad,woman mad and take longer to mature than others.

[InOne]

Frankie is a silly little boy who thinks with his Penis. Spot on by Kristina.

[MTVN]

They were 2 or his 3 girlfriends

:shrug:

[Jamie.]

Give the boy a rest.

[Mystic Mock]

Jedward,you are one of a very few lads like that,kudos to your parents for bringing you up so well,Frankie has probably had a very different up bringing and tbh I have seen you post some choice words yourself,lol,none of us are perfect.I dont like Frankies crudeness but dont let his bad traits overshadow what are his good points,you are a nice lad Jedward and with the proper guidance I think Frankie could be too,I am shocked at myself as to how much I like Frankie,he really annoys me sometimes and I could shake him,but I also see someone who underneath all that bluster is a nice lad,no his age is no excuse but lots of lads today are sex mad,woman mad and take longer to mature than others.

Thanks for the comments Kazanne,I know i'm not perfect but I am not as bad as him.

[Ramsay]

The Twins have said many times that they never ****ed Hef and that their relationship with him was more for fun and fame then anything else

[chuff me dizzy]

The Twins have said many times that they never ****ed Hef and that their relationship with him was more for fun and fame then anything else

If you are a girlfriend you sleep with him

[Roy Mars III]

If you are a girlfriend you sleep with him

speaking from personal experience?

[Ramsay]

If you are a girlfriend you sleep with him

They werent really his girlfriend..they just made the media think that so they would get famous..plus while they were his 'girlfriend' he was engaged to some girl you really think he would sleep with them while he was engaged?

[Josy]

Give the boy a rest.

Its a discussion, thats what forums are for...........

[majomartin]

Thanks for the comments Kazanne,I know i'm not perfect but I am not as bad as him.

my god, he's not a bad lad.

[MTVN]

If you are a girlfriend you sleep with him

They were "girlfriends" in name only not in the conventional sense, it's all done for show, for entertainment purposes

[Mystic Mock]

speaking from personal experience?

:laugh3::laugh3:

It shows how boring Frankie is that we are talking about the Twins.:joker:

[Jamie.]

I just think its stupid, half the people on this forum probably speak worse than him.

[Mystic Mock]

my god, he's not a bad lad.

You think what you want but i've seen him on two things now and his vile imo,and what an actor to turn his popularity all the way around inside 5 to 7 months.

[majomartin]

I just think its stupid, half the people on this forum probably speak worse than him.

I agree. Yes, sometimes he's annoying, but he's the most honest in that house.

[MTVN]

I like Frankie most just when he's having a normal conversation, love his friendship with Michael in particular, you can tell he's friendly and likeable. Fair enough if you don't really approve of the way he talks about women but it doesn't make him a bad guy

[Mystic Mock]

I agree. Yes, sometimes he's annoying, but he's the most honest in that house.

His that honest that his had a personality transplant over at most 7 months.

His only let his true self come out a couple of times and that's with his creepyness with the Twins,and enjoying the bitch fight and causing more trouble between the three girls.

[majomartin]

His that honest that his had a personality transplant over at most 7 months.

His only let his true self come out a couple of times and that's with his creepyness with the Twins,and enjoying the bitch fight and causing more trouble between the three girls.

what? Press were always talking rubbish about him, he's really nice, and I'm saying this because I know his mum and sister, they're all lovely. X Factor made a joke out of him. Kirk used to tell the sames jokes as him but he didnt get half as hate Frankie does, and Kirk is older.

[Jamie.]

I think people need to lay off Frankie as he is 19 for goodness sake, yes he has foul language, but don't we all?
We're are all teenagers at one point.

For me it's Frankie all the way!

[Kazanne]

No as me and my friends talk about stuff like girls but not as vile and crude as Jay Mckray's cousin does.

But you call people bastards and pricks Jedward,kinda defeats the topic.

[InOne]

I think people need to lay off Frankie as he is 19 for goodness sake, yes he has foul language, but don't we all?
We're are all teenagers at one point.

For me it's Frankie all the way!

Yes, 19 not 13.

[Mystic Mock]

what? Press were always talking rubbish about him, he's really nice, and I'm saying this because I know his mum and sister, they're all lovely. X Factor made a joke out of him. Kirk used to tell the sames jokes as him but he didnt get half as hate Frankie does, and Kirk is older.

Tbf I hated Kirk more than I hate Frankie.

The only reason Kirk didn't get as much hate is because he hasn't lasted as long as Frankie,and TOWIE is watched by 2 million viewers at best while the last X Factor was watched by 8 million viewers.

[Jamie.]

Yes, 19 not 13.
Did I say he was?
And there is a clue in the numbers
NineTEEN
ThirTEEN

[Mystic Mock]

But you call people bastards and pricks Jedward,kinda defeats the topic.

Tbf everyone says those words in there life,I would accept Frankie saying that,it's his so called girls that his slept with being tattooed on his back and the words he uses towards women that I don't accept.

[InOne]

Did I say he was?
And there is a clue in the numbers
NineTEEN
ThirTEEN

There is also quite a big gap. Seems he hasn't matured eh.

[chuff me dizzy]

They werent really his girlfriend..they just made the media think that so they would get famous..plus while they were his 'girlfriend' he was engaged to some girl you really think he would sleep with them while he was engaged?

From Wikipedia " In 2008, the Shannons moved into the Playboy Mansion as two of Hugh Hefner's three new girlfriends; "

[MTVN]

From Wikipedia " In 2008, the Shannons moved into the Playboy Mansion as two of Hugh Hefner's three new girlfriends; "

And if you'd have kept reading

"Despite their "girlfriend" status, Karissa said the relationship she and Kristina shared with Hefner was more for fun and the opportunity to be on the show, rather than romance"

[Mystic Mock]

And if you'd have kept reading

"Despite their "girlfriend" status, Karissa said the relationship she and Kristina shared with Hefner was more for fun and the opportunity to be on the show, rather than romance"

What it shows is that they're very clever and calclulating,but Frankie behaves really creepy and disturbing so I could understand them being disturbed by him.

[Kazanne]

Hey i'm not to keen on them either,but still what he was doing to them was wrong as they kept telling him no,ok I wouldn't go as far as one of the posters a few days ago and start calling him a rapist but it's pretty disturbing imo.

Jedward,the twins weren't uncomfortable,but they would have you believe that they were,do you really think they are not used to that sort of talk?all they had to do IF they felt that way ,is to tell BB,they would have had a chat with him.

[chuff me dizzy]

And if you'd have kept reading

"Despite their "girlfriend" status, Karissa said the relationship she and Kristina shared with Hefner was more for fun and the opportunity to be on the show, rather than romance"

Of course they would say that :sleep:

[joeysteele]

I don't like Frankie's talk as to sex,he isn't in the same swearing continuously league as Jay was however, I saw no endearing features in any of Jay's behaviour at all, I see though a lot in Frankie's aside from the sex talk.

I had no time at all for Frankie on X Factor but in the house,( aside from his sex talk especially with Kirk who was far worse in my view), I have seen a polite young guy who is able to get on with all the housemates,who has been team player throughout, even with alcohol not really doing anything too outrageous and also he has shown a sensitive and supportive side to him too.

I don't think it is really double standards to now like Frankie if I didn't like Jay, Jay had awful filthy personal habits in addition to really graphic and filthy sex talk, Jay is someone I would avoid completely if he was in the same place as me, Frankie on his CBB showing I would happily have a chat to and a drink with.

[Livia]

Of course they would say that :sleep:

So, out of two consecutive sentences, you only believe the one that suits your agenda, and you dismiss the other. Typical.

[Bluerang1]

I am very inclined to insult all of you saying "typical boys" his age. No thank you. I don't know what rotting society you live in but '"boys" his age, aren't even boys for once, he's a man. Secondly, don't group that age group being Frankie-like because not all of them are. You don't act the way he has in public, and say those things, especially on television. It's a disgrace. And he can't spell and only has one GCSE. The "easy" one. Keep on glamorizing illiteracy Great British (some of you).

[Mystic Mock]

Jedward,the twins weren't uncomfortable,but they would have you believe that they were,do you really think they are not used to that sort of talk?all they had to do IF they felt that way ,is to tell BB,they would have had a chat with him.

I agree that they milked it,but I still find Frankie creepy and disturbing.