View Full Version : Twins to Michael: You're an american actor, they've probably seen all your films
The Penguin
26-01-2012, 09:06 PM
err....no lol
He may be a Hollywood actor but he's not exactly Robert Deniro. I've only seen one or two of his films where he had a starring role like Free Willy and Reservoir Dogs. I think that's probably true for most people in this country, and probably even america too. Heck the twins didn't even recognise him at first!
Livia
26-01-2012, 09:10 PM
Most people know very well who Michael Madsen is.
Niamh.
26-01-2012, 09:13 PM
You've just said you've seen atleast 2 of his films so ...........they're probably right.
armand.kay
26-01-2012, 09:15 PM
I think they we're just being nice I'm sure if franky said it this thread would never of happend. :bored:
The Penguin
26-01-2012, 09:19 PM
Most people know very well who Michael Madsen is.
I don't think he was really that famous or well known in the UK. People might recognise his face but I doubt most people in the UK really would be able to identify him before this show. A lot of the housemates had to ask his name when they first met him, even the american twins. And what the twins said about people seeing all his films is nowhere near true.
He's not exactly an oscar winning actor. He's more like the guy you seen in some films and you need to ask someone his name.
Niamh.
26-01-2012, 09:23 PM
I don't think he was really that famous or well known in the UK. People might recognise his face but I doubt most people in the UK really would be able to identify him before this show. A lot of the housemates had to ask his name when they first met him, even the american twins. And what the twins said about people seeing all his films is nowhere near true.
He's not exactly an oscar winning actor. He's more like the guy you seen in some films and you need to ask someone his name.
He's still at the highest level of celebrity that BB could actually get to go on the show. He is pretty famous and has been in some brilliant films
vortex
26-01-2012, 09:26 PM
He's not a Robert DeNiro but he's quite known and for CBB he's the biggest foreign star that has been on the show.
Livia
26-01-2012, 09:28 PM
I don't think he was really that famous or well known in the UK. People might recognise his face but I doubt most people in the UK really would be able to identify him before this show. A lot of the housemates had to ask his name when they first met him, even the american twins. And what the twins said about people seeing all his films is nowhere near true.
He's not exactly an oscar winning actor. He's more like the guy you seen in some films and you need to ask someone his name.
Just because you aren't clear who he is and what he's done, and you "have only seen 1 or 2 films" (is it 1 or is it 2?) doesn't mean you're in the majority. Most people who like films and know anything about them know who he is. Loads of people on this forum know who he is... but hey, you obviously think you're right, so what's the point arguing the toss with you?
I've never heard of him, but ive never watched any films he's in either ..so thats probably why..
SoBig
26-01-2012, 10:07 PM
Robert DeNiro is suppperrrrrrrrrrrrrr A list.
Michael is a B list celebrity. He is very well known. Probably the most famous person to ever be on BB.
Get over it.
SoBig
26-01-2012, 10:07 PM
Robert DeNiro is suppperrrrrrrrrrrrrr A list.
Michael is a B list celebrity. He is very well known. Probably the most famous person to ever be on BB.
Get over it.
The Penguin
26-01-2012, 10:10 PM
He's still at the highest level of celebrity that BB could actually get to go on the show. He is pretty famous and has been in some brilliant films
So he's been in some brilliant films. Reservoir Dogs was great because of the script and Tarantino. I haven't seen Kill Bill but that's probably true for that too. He didn't exactly have the defining role that made those films great. Tarantino is a genius and he could have made those films great with another set of actors. Donnie Brasco was another one. I haven't seen it but it was the screenplay that was nominated for an oscar for that film. Also from whate I've heard, Pacino and Depps performances received a lot of praise for that film. In Free Willy, it was the whale that was the star as well as the moving story. His role again was secondary and he was replaceable.
All these brilliant films he has been in, they were great because of other people. He didn't get any awards for them or even any nominations. He was a replaceable secondary character in these films. His moderate fame comes primarily from being associated with great films. Whether you like him in the house or not, that's what he is. So let's not make out he's some big Hollywood star. He's not.
Jezzy
26-01-2012, 10:14 PM
Oh cmon. Reservoir Dogs was great because of the script, Tarantino, and the quality of the actors. Mr. Blond is probably what most people would remember about it.
The Penguin
26-01-2012, 10:17 PM
Just because you aren't clear who he is and what he's done, and you "have only seen 1 or 2 films" (is it 1 or is it 2?) doesn't mean you're in the majority. Most people who like films and know anything about them know who he is. Loads of people on this forum know who he is... but hey, you obviously think you're right, so what's the point arguing the toss with you?
Getting a little upset are we? Do you know him personally? I don't think most people who like films in general know who he is. Certainly most people who like Tarantino films would know him. That's just one group of people who like films. Some people may prefer Alfred Hitchcock films, or Spielberg films and aren't into Tarantino films or have only seen the ones without Madsen. I think it's pretty illogical and stupid to say that most people who like films would know him.
Michaels response to this horrible thread
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Shaun
26-01-2012, 10:25 PM
i wouldn't say he's the most famous. that'd probably be jermaine jackson.
Jezzy
26-01-2012, 10:26 PM
Nah, Vinnie, I reckon...
MrWong
26-01-2012, 10:28 PM
Yeah but what about what they thought about Denise' 'star power' on Loose Women.
Denise has obviously been bigging herself up to mega-star status, along with all the name dropping.
Wait until they come out and find out how sh!te it is. :joker:
Michael Madsen brother of Virginia Madsen, is an accomplished American characted actor who has starred in many films. He is also a published and award winning poet and photographer.
SoBig
26-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Nah, Vinnie, I reckon...
No.
Niamh.
26-01-2012, 11:19 PM
So he's been in some brilliant films. Reservoir Dogs was great because of the script and Tarantino. I haven't seen Kill Bill but that's probably true for that too. He didn't exactly have the defining role that made those films great. Tarantino is a genius and he could have made those films great with another set of actors. Donnie Brasco was another one. I haven't seen it but it was the screenplay that was nominated for an oscar for that film. Also from whate I've heard, Pacino and Depps performances received a lot of praise for that film. In Free Willy, it was the whale that was the star as well as the moving story. His role again was secondary and he was replaceable.
All these brilliant films he has been in, they were great because of other people. He didn't get any awards for them or even any nominations. He was a replaceable secondary character in these films. His moderate fame comes primarily from being associated with great films. Whether you like him in the house or not, that's what he is. So let's not make out he's some big Hollywood star. He's not.
He is a Hollywood star whether you want to think it or not. He was one of the main characters in Reservoir Dogs, Infact the scene that everyone remembers and talks about was a scene with Michael only (and the ear). No one is claiming he's in Deniro or Pacinos league but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a famous actor and has had a very successful movie career
He is a Hollywood star whether you want to think it or not. He was one of the main characters in Reservoir Dogs, Infact the scene that everyone remembers and talks about was a scene with Michael only (and the ear). No one is claiming he's in Deniro or Pacinos league but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a famous actor and has had a very successful movie career
Well said
RodHull
26-01-2012, 11:32 PM
His moderate fame comes primarily from being associated with great films. Whether you like him in the house or not, that's what he is. So let's not make out he's some big Hollywood star. He's not.
Thats the funniest thing Ive read in days. You could apply that logic to just about anyone in any film ever. Would De Niro be a massive star if he hadn't been given roles in great films?? Good example would be Dan Akroyd who was about as big a comedy actor as you could get in the 80s and 90s but when the roles dried up he faded into obscurity. Did he suddenly become crap overnight or was it perhaps just the mercurial nature of fame and celebrity in Hollywood.
Take Mickey Rourke (who I believe is mates with Michael) up until the Wrestler and Sin City he was a washed up nobody. And for that matter Travolta in his role in Pulp Fiction, that totally resurrected his career.
Madsen pretty much IS reservoir dogs, he and Harvey Keitel hold the whole film together. For that alone he is a film legend, that film revolutionised the way films are made, Tarantino is a genuis, the fact he cast him in 3 separate films tells me he must be fairly talented.
The Doors- Tom Baker(1991)
Thelma and Louise- Jimmy(1991)
Reservoir Dogs (1992)
Free Willy (1993)
Wyatt Earp (1994)
The Getaway (1994)
Species (1995)
Free Willy 2: The Adventure Home (1995)
Mulholland Falls (1996)
Donnie Brasco (1997)
Die Another Day (2002)
Kill Bill: Volume 1- Budd (2003)
Kill Bill: Volume 2- Budd (2004)
Sin City (2005)
Thats a selection of the 150 films hes made. Ive seen all of those (except the free willy films lol) and hes good in all of them.
vortex
26-01-2012, 11:39 PM
Michaels response to this horrible thread
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The Penguin
27-01-2012, 12:10 AM
Thats the funniest thing Ive read in days. You could apply that logic to just about anyone in any film ever. Would De Niro be a massive star if he hadn't been given roles in great films?? Good example would be Dan Akroyd who was about as big a comedy actor as you could get in the 80s and 90s but when the roles dried up he faded into obscurity. Did he suddenly become crap overnight or was it perhaps just the mercurial nature of fame and celebrity in Hollywood.
Take Mickey Rourke (who I believe is mates with Michael) up until the Wrestler and Sin City he was a washed up nobody. And for that matter Travolta in his role in Pulp Fiction, that totally resurrected his career.
Madsen pretty much IS reservoir dogs, he and Harvey Keitel hold the whole film together. For that alone he is a film legend, that film revolutionised the way films are made, Tarantino is a genuis, the fact he cast him in 3 separate films tells me he must be fairly talented.
The Doors- Tom Baker(1991)
Thelma and Louise- Jimmy(1991)
Reservoir Dogs (1992)
Free Willy (1993)
Wyatt Earp (1994)
The Getaway (1994)
Species (1995)
Free Willy 2: The Adventure Home (1995)
Mulholland Falls (1996)
Donnie Brasco (1997)
Die Another Day (2002)
Kill Bill: Volume 1- Budd (2003)
Kill Bill: Volume 2- Budd (2004)
Sin City (2005)
Thats a selection of the 150 films hes made. Ive seen all of those (except the free willy films lol) and hes good in all of them.
My original point was on the twins comment about how people have seen all his films. Most of the great films he has been in, he was not the thing people remember about the film and he didn't play one of the main characters. Reservoir Dogs and that infamous scene are probably the exception. And his part in Die Another Day was so minor that I forgot he was in it.
Patrick
27-01-2012, 12:19 AM
Most people know very well who Michael Madsen is.
..No, no they don't.
This was proven on BOTS.
Most people IN AMERICA know who he is.
..No, no they don't.
This was proven on BOTS.
Most people IN AMERICA know who he is.
Patrick bots would struggle to prove what day it was, most people who watch movies do know who Michael Madsen is.
Kizzy
27-01-2012, 12:32 AM
im no film buff either i thought robert deniro was just some guy bananarama sang about... his scene is iconic to the 9os though and when he went mad about the pig ....lool a pigs a filthy animal pulp fiction stylee ace! :o)
Pyramid*
27-01-2012, 06:08 AM
More people in the Uk know who Michael is compared to how well known any of the UK contestants would be familiar to those living in America.
Proven by the fact that most (if not all) of the UK housemates in the house knew who he was: yet neither he or the Twins knew much about any of the UK contestants.
Angus
27-01-2012, 06:28 AM
More people in the Uk know who Michael is compared to how well known any of the UK contestants would be familiar to those living in America.
Proven by the fact that most (if not all) of the UK housemates in the house knew who he was: yet neither he or the Twins knew much about any of the UK contestants.
I should think the Americans have a higher standard of who they would consider a celebrity. Shagging your brother-in-law doesn't confer celebrity status, neither does being an x-factor contestant kicked out for taking drugs. Natasha and Frankie would have been ideal fodder for the normal BB, but CBB? Hell no.
Pyramid*
27-01-2012, 06:34 AM
I should think the Americans have a higher standard of who they would consider a celebrity. Shagging your brother-in-law doesn't confer celebrity status, neither does being an x-factor contestant kicked out for taking drugs. Natasha and Frankie would have been ideal fodder for the normal BB, but CBB? Hell no.
All very true - it still shows that the Americans are more well known to those in the UK, than the Brits in the house are known to those in America (most likely indeed for the very reasons you have given: that being a celebrity over there mean you have done something valid and of worthwhile conribution to be regarded as a celeb).
lostalex
27-01-2012, 09:36 AM
Even as an American i have to say i didn't know the name Michael Madsen, but i definitely recognized him right away when i saw him. He's one of those actors that's been in a lot of hit movies, but he wasn't the lead character in any of them, his name is never in big print on the movie posters.
lostalex
27-01-2012, 09:38 AM
I should think the Americans have a higher standard of who they would consider a celebrity. Shagging your brother-in-law doesn't confer celebrity status, neither does being an x-factor contestant kicked out for taking drugs. Natasha and Frankie would have been ideal fodder for the normal BB, but CBB? Hell no.
Don't give America more credit than we deserve lol./ Have yu ever heard of Kate from John and Kate plus 8? She was on Dancing with the Stars(US version of Strictly)... vile woman.
Livia
27-01-2012, 10:07 AM
Getting a little upset are we? Do you know him personally? I don't think most people who like films in general know who he is. Certainly most people who like Tarantino films would know him. That's just one group of people who like films. Some people may prefer Alfred Hitchcock films, or Spielberg films and aren't into Tarantino films or have only seen the ones without Madsen. I think it's pretty illogical and stupid to say that most people who like films would know him.
You would have to work a little harder than you are able to make me have any kind of emotion about you. Although I do admit your provocative, argumentative views I do find really tiresome. Michael is one of the best known and best supported housemates on here and masses of people knew him from the start. But hey, if you don't know him.... then everyone else must be wrong.
Livia
27-01-2012, 10:09 AM
..No, no they don't.
This was proven on BOTS.
LMAO @ something being proven on BOTS.
I know who he is by looking at his face but the name did not ring a bell to me. When he was rumoured to go in I had to google him, but when I saw him I knew instantly who he was and what some of the films he's been in were.
But I agree with the OP, I don't know all of his films and I wouldn't class him as the most famous american actor of our time.
Livia
27-01-2012, 10:17 AM
I know who he is by looking at his face but the name did not ring a bell to me. When he was rumoured to go in I had to google him, but when I saw him I knew instantly who he was and what some of the films he's been in were.
But I agree with the OP, I don't know all of his films and I wouldn't class him as the most famous american actor of our time.
If he was the most famous actor of our time, would he be in Big Brother?
I'm sure we're all grateful to the OP for pointing out that Michael Madsen is not Robert De Niro.
Good morning Marc.
If he was the most famous actor of our time, would he be in Big Brother?
I'm sure we're all grateful to the OP for pointing out that Michael Madsen is not Robert De Niro.
Good morning Marc.
:laugh: Morning Livia :)
Well obviously he isn't the most famous actor, but the way the twins went on they probably were trying to convey that, they don't seem very realistic and tend to exaggerate from time to time. So I guess the point is valid, but given that the twins actually didn't say he was the most famous actor, and instead portrayed it, there appears to be leeway to everybodies arguements.
Wow.. that must be the biggest waffling/piece of poo I've ever typed.
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Livia
27-01-2012, 10:24 AM
Wow.. that must be the biggest waffling/piece of poo I've ever typed.
[/proud]
At last... we agree x
At last... we agree x
:joker: bitch.
Livia
27-01-2012, 10:39 AM
:joker: bitch.
You say that like it's a bad thing!
Don't give America more credit than we deserve lol./ Have yu ever heard of Kate from John and Kate plus 8? She was on Dancing with the Stars(US version of Strictly)... vile woman.
I actually have heard of her :D I think I was was flicking through TV channels when I came across the reality show. Didn't they get divorced? Or was there another couple with just as many babies did a programe also? I remember them having free surgery to get rid of the excess skin caused by the multiple birth.
Tourmaline
27-01-2012, 10:50 AM
I watched Free Willy many times and still didn't know who he was....but then...Willy did kind of steal the show :hugesmile:
lostalex
27-01-2012, 11:10 AM
I actually have heard of her :D I think I was was flicking through TV channels when I came across the reality show. Didn't they get divorced? Or was there another couple with just as many babies did a programe also? I remember them having free surgery to get rid of the excess skin caused by the multiple birth.
Yes that's her...that's the woman they had on Dancing with the Stars, the most popular "celebrity" reality show in the US, so now you know the quality of "stars" we get on our "celebrity" programs lol.
Tarrantino wanted Michael for the role of Vincent in Pulp Fiction but he had to turn it down due to other commitments and the part went to Travolta
Jezzy
27-01-2012, 12:59 PM
In addition to that, he had planned a film with the two Vega brothers / cousins (?) ie, Travolta and Madsen...
The Penguin
27-01-2012, 01:11 PM
You would have to work a little harder than you are able to make me have any kind of emotion about you. Although I do admit your provocative, argumentative views I do find really tiresome. Michael is one of the best known and best supported housemates on here and masses of people knew him from the start. But hey, if you don't know him.... then everyone else must be wrong.
I wasn't talking about myself. I knew him myself. When he came in I said to myself, oh that's Michael Madsen. However I don't think most people in the UK prior to CBB would have been able to identify him. I know a lot about films so I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about most people in the UK. On BBOTS I think only 11 percent of people could identify him. I don't know how accurate that is but it's certainly no higher than 20 percent if we're talking about putting a name to a face. Like when my mum was visiting and we watched it together she said think she recognised his face but I had to tell her his name and what he was in.
Livia
27-01-2012, 01:13 PM
I wasn't talking about myself. I knew him myself. When he came in I said to myself, oh that's Michael Madsen. However I don't think most people in the UK prior to CBB would have been able to identify him. I know a lot about films so I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about most people in the UK. On BBOTS I think only 11 percent of people could identify him. I don't know how accurate that is but it's certainly no higher than 20 percent if we're talking about putting a name to a face. Like when my mum was visiting and we watched it together she said think she recognised his face but I had to tell her his name and what he was in.
I'm sure a lot more knew him than knew the twins. Or Romeo for that matter. But hey, whatever...
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