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lily.
19-06-2006, 11:58 AM
This has been going on now since BB4 kicked Anouska out on night one.

Why does BB have to meddle with the nominations? This latest one with Susie will have disastrous consequences. Not only for the one who got kicked out, but for Susie herself who has now become unpopular with a certain group because of BBs decision to do this to her.

It defeats the purpose of the "game" to mix it up when nominations are coming so that BB can sway the votes one way or the other.

Also, if they hadn't let Grace hear the boos and chants, then her eviction would have been more dramatic. Not that I enjoy the cat-calling and boos, but it's an integral part of BB that the HMs have no idea what kind of reception to expect.

You only have to look at Sezer's reaction to being evicted and Grace's to see what I mean. Sezer was speechless, whilst Grace already knew what to expect.

There's far too much meddling in BB. Nominations should never be meddled with. There should be no "exempt from nomination" and there should be no stupid games like the one they played with Susie.

That's my opinion.. take it or leave it.. :thumbs:

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:05 PM
At the end of the day - The public voted Anoushka out, and everyone else who has followed.
People only say stuff like this when one of their faves go, thats all

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by blackgloves
At the end of the day - The public voted Anoushka out, and everyone else who has followed.


The public do vote them out, but how many people vote for one person because they like the other, rather than because they dislike the one they vote for?

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:09 PM
look ,the public voted them out so its just something we will all have to deal with.

This happens every year, a HM gets voted out who we all thought shouldnt have

*Edited due to origional post coming across as aggresive"

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:10 PM
*Post Edited* Argument over. :thumbs: :laugh:

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:11 PM
just stating a point, dont take it personally

Deep2
19-06-2006, 12:25 PM
Yes but your point is made aggressively. Can't stand people who write 'get over it'. You get some manners.

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:26 PM
Don't worry about it Deep2. He/she appears to have some maturity problems and the vocabulary of Vikki Pollard. :thumbs:

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:32 PM
How dare you, i have made some constructive posts since i joined, posted HLs from emails ect.

Im sorry for writing like that, i apoligise, ill change...i dont understand how that could offend someone

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by blackgloves
look whatever right, the public voted them out, tough, deal with it - get over it

^You don't understand how that remark above made you look/sound like Vikki Pollard?

Please take a minute to read it back to yourself and then you might see where I'm coming from.

Edwin
19-06-2006, 12:38 PM
stropz and blackgloves are becoming the new edwin and deep2.

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:39 PM
Not at all.. we have sorted out our differences in another thread...

It's over. :thumbs:

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:39 PM
Oh yes i can see how it made me look like Vikki Pollard, but i dont see how it could offend someone, there are far more things i could have wrote lol. Im sorry that posting a comment in a Vikki P style had come across offensivly.

Once again i apoligise, come on people i dont normally post like that lol

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:41 PM
It's all good blackgloves. :thumbs:

Dan_
19-06-2006, 12:41 PM
I have never liked Big Brother messing around with the nominations, the last two series have had the most amount of meddling and I think the show could do without it. They should just leave it to the normal format and only have one twist with nominations in a series otherwise it defeats the object of the game.

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:44 PM
That was the point I was making Danny. How can the HMs devise a gameplan where they pull the wool over their HMs eyes, when BB can step in with a twist which ensures that Public Enemy #1 gets evicted.

Let's face it, if we had a "Susie" last year, Makosi would have been out on her ear in the first few weeks. She was vastly unpopular with the public, but we were never given a chance to chuck her out. That's the nature of the game!

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:46 PM
I dont mind twists, but your right there has been far too many. I guess BB meddling the noms process gives it a bit of spice.

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:48 PM
Some of the twists are encouraging people to cry "fix", because it does look like Endemol/C4 engineer the noms some weeks in order to bring in more revenue from phone voting.

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:50 PM
But the reasons why people say 'fix' are so lame, it normally comes down to the facts that they like the 'villian'.

I dont mind villans, but Grace was on a different scale.

If the twist last week didnt take place, im pretty sure Grace would make it to at least Wekk 8 or 9 until being nominated

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:52 PM
That's also true. A lot of people only want to complain when their favourite HM gets evicted.

Although I liked Grace and wanted her to stay because of that. I also wanted her to stay to see if she could redeem herself, or if indeed her HMs would be able to see her true colours and turn on her inside the house. I found her to be an interesting character, mainly because the inside perception of her was so different from the outside perception.

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 12:55 PM
Even though Grace was bad - it did keep us amazed and something to watch.

I do believe that those who break rules should be punished though.

lily.
19-06-2006, 12:56 PM
Yeah, if they discuss nominations, they shouldn't be allowed to nominate... that makes sense.

I wonder who will be banned this week, and what effect it will have on the votes.

Dan_
19-06-2006, 12:57 PM
It's pretty good to see someone with a gameplan or someone vilified on the outside make it far in the show, once they have gone you soon get left with less conflict and the publics interest might start to decrease as you wait to see the housemates with a game plan get found out.

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 01:01 PM
I personallly cant see Big Brother banning those 5 who have been named, i wouldnt be surprised if Big Brother put them all up for eviction.

A game plan is good. Jason and Victor spoke openly of playing a game, reporting to the DR lol, but i think most of this years lot are so deluded and self absorbed they would never saying they are playing a game, though they are quick to say that someone else is playing a game

lily.
19-06-2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by BB fernzy
It's pretty good to see someone with a gameplan or someone vilified on the outside make it far in the show, once they have gone you soon get left with less conflict and the publics interest might start to decrease as you wait to see the housemates with a game plan get found out.
Yeah Danny. Again, I mention Makosi. I didn't like her, but it was good to watch and you couldn't help wondering when her HMs would see through her bullsh!t. So, you kept watching and waiting for her day to come.

lily.
19-06-2006, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by blackgloves
I personallly cant see Big Brother banning those 5 who have been named, i wouldnt be surprised if Big Brother put them all up for eviction.

A game plan is good. Jason and Victor spoke openly of playing a game, reporting to the DR lol, but i think most of this years lot are so deluded and self absorbed they would never saying they are playing a game, though they are quick to say that someone else is playing a game

I think they are afraid of saying they are playing a game because of how the public reacts to it. Victor and Jason didn't get a great reception upon leaving the house and you can tell this lot are terrified of any boos they might get.

They are totally self-absorbed... you are right about that.. in fact, they might be the worst HMs so far for that particular trait. And I thought last year's were bad!!! :laugh:

blackgloves
19-06-2006, 01:06 PM
Last years lot were self absorbed, but at times they could come together and have fun and not care what people think - speed date task, pool orgy ect

I doubt we will see fun like we have seen in other series. It just amazes me that Lisa, Imogen and Mikey think they are popular outside and the others are backstabbing, bitching ect - it worries me lol

Lisa's outburst to Aisylene on Friday i think was down to the fact that Richards camp had caught them out by hearing them giggling and discussing what Grace was going to do.

If the others heard - why did they not say anything to Suzie?

lily.
19-06-2006, 01:11 PM
I can't figure Richard's group out. They have no loyalty to one another at all. They talk the talk, but when it comes down to it, they backstab each other.

I think that's why Richard is so unpopular with the public.

I heard someone on BBBM say that Richard is just a "bald man with a suitcase full of really bad Village People outfits". That made me chuckle. :laugh:

GlitterEyes
19-06-2006, 04:38 PM
I agree with most of that I think bb should be alot more clear, if they talk nominations they either automatically go up for eviction (this would stop them talking so much I think) or dont get to vote. I personally think the first idea would stop them all from slipping up and make them be aware for each other aswell. The only person who got "punished" in my opinion was Nikki. I don't think its fair the others got let off. Also with the likes of Imogen who has done this basically every week so far yet the punishment has remained the same and not got to nominate first with Sezar then without. I think punishments should be warned once, automatically up for eviction and third strike and they are out.

GlitterEyes
19-06-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
I can't figure Richard's group out. They have no loyalty to one another at all. They talk the talk, but when it comes down to it, they backstab each other.

I think that's why Richard is so unpopular with the public.

I heard someone on BBBM say that Richard is just a "bald man with a suitcase full of really bad Village People outfits". That made me chuckle. :laugh:


Who do you see in his group? I see him ais and susie thats it.

Foebane100
19-06-2006, 05:33 PM
What would have happened if the rule breakers got two votes?

I don't think it was very fair that Glyn Nikki and Lea were given the same punishment as Imogen and Lisa.

I kind of agree with GlitterEyes, but think kicking them out for it seems a bit extreme.

Maybe make them were a sign all week saying I talked about nominations and was talking about whoever.

lily.
19-06-2006, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Who do you see in his group? I see him ais and susie thats it.

Richard, Susie, Aisleyne and Lea (sometimes - she floats back and forth)

GlitterEyes
19-06-2006, 10:45 PM
Yeah I kick booting them out is extreme aswell when I think about it lol but having that in place would make them be alot more aware of what they talk about, I don't really see Lisa and Imogen being punished at all because they will get another person out when they realisticially should be up for nomination themselves. They have both talked about nominations before but are still not being properly punished they have been let off in a way which is a shame.

I don't see how nominating Nikki is a punishment at all for them all apart from poor nikki.

abs
19-06-2006, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
This has been going on now since BB4 kicked Anouska out on night one.

Why does BB have to meddle with the nominations? This latest one with Susie will have disastrous consequences. Not only for the one who got kicked out, but for Susie herself who has now become unpopular with a certain group because of BBs decision to do this to her.

It defeats the purpose of the "game" to mix it up when nominations are coming so that BB can sway the votes one way or the other.

Also, if they hadn't let Grace hear the boos and chants, then her eviction would have been more dramatic. Not that I enjoy the cat-calling and boos, but it's an integral part of BB that the HMs have no idea what kind of reception to expect.

You only have to look at Sezer's reaction to being evicted and Grace's to see what I mean. Sezer was speechless, whilst Grace already knew what to expect.

There's far too much meddling in BB. Nominations should never be meddled with. There should be no "exempt from nomination" and there should be no stupid games like the one they played with Susie.

That's my opinion.. take it or leave it.. :thumbs:

BB is a fix, i have said that from day 1. the kit kat thing, suzie knowing (2wks in advanced) that she was going in, meddling with nominations to favour the other group, us not knowing the actual figures of the person who is evicted, & many more. i think BB have already picked the winner, johnny public ringing in is only putting £s in their (already fat) pockets. & look at the people who are in the house, more than half of them have been around in the public eye one way or the other. i feel grace is an actress for BB, no 20yr old acts the way she does. sezer (a major character) is already out of the house. its all very fishy to me...

EmilyJ
20-06-2006, 12:21 AM
Totally agree. They need to spend less time meddling and more time thinking up some interesting tasks and give us something decent to watch.

GlitterEyes
20-06-2006, 12:24 AM
I think the show would fail if they didn't fix some parts. Imagine a room full of Imogens it would be so boring.

Kore
20-06-2006, 12:24 AM
personally i think its different and entertaining. it varies