Faith schools

[Jack_]

...and schools like all boys/girls only. Do you think they should exist or not?

Apologies to anyone that does go or has been to one of these types of schools, but it's merely a debate thread.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Yes because it gives you choice.

[Niall]

I don't think all male/female schools should still be around, no. There's no point to them. End of.

Faith schools I can understand but part of me thinks the abolishment of them would be a good idea too, even though both schools I went to were faith schools. I think I just see it as a form of indoctrination (I know that might sound extreme, but it's the best word I could think of to describe it). I think religion is something that is personal and that you should decide for yourself.

[Smithy]

I went to an all boys school and I don't see a problem with it :shrug:

[Patrick]

All I know is, all boys and girls schools are pathetic.

In 2006 I went to an all boys school, and if I'm perfectly honest - I went in, fairly cool and came out camp as ******.
Those schools mess you up, seriously there's no clunge to look at, the conversation is dull, the teachers think they're in the army and most of the staff are raging homosexuals wanting to look at the boys.

I heard the other day actually, that all girls schools tend to make the girls more reluctant when it comes to guys, and all boys schools often make the guys pretty gay.. so all in all, it simply ruins the circle of life.

I regret ever moving to an all boys school and left it after one year - I honestly don't know how anyone can go through secondary/primary education being surrounded by the same sex constantly, it would drive me mad.

[Patrick]

I don't think all male/female schools should still be around, no. There's no point to them. End of.

Faith schools I can understand but part of me thinks the abolishment of them would be a good idea too

This.

[Jessica.]

I don't know of any schools where I live that aren't Catholic. I went to a co-ed primary school til I was 7/8 and then started in a convent school, which was all girls. The secondary school was on the same grounds and was all girls so I went to that too. There were nuns there and the Primary school teacher was a nun. We still did science and every other subject that you would learn in a non faith-school. It was quite amusing to me the day we learned about evolution with a crucifix hanging in the classroom. Schools here still allow people of other faiths and they aren't discriminated against for their religion. I think schools of faith or all boys/all girls are fine. As long as the teachers teach and the kids show up, a school is a school.

[Patrick]

Catholic schools. :yuk:

I go to one, because my family are catholic and made me - and even though our school has kind of accepted the fact that most people don't really care anymore, so now we have protestants and other religions and cultures in the school, for some reason they still force GCSE Religion onto us.

Which I think is a disgrace, because I don't believe in Jesus, the other religions in the school clearly don't either - so why we have to learn about him and sit an exam on R.E is pathetic?

[Jessica.]

In my school we had to learn everything about Islam for our exams, I think in secondary school RE is mostly discussion of religion rather than saying "you must believe this".

[Ammi]

Catholic schools. :yuk:

I go to one, because my family are catholic and made me - and even though our school has kind of accepted the fact that most people don't really care anymore, so now we have protestants and other religions and cultures in the school, for some reason they still force GCSE Religion onto us.

Which I think is a disgrace, because I don't believe in Jesus, the other religions in the school clearly don't either - so why we have to learn about him and sit an exam on R.E is pathetic?

Is RE not compulsary at all schools though?

[MTVN]

Hmm trouble with faith schools is that they mind it difficult to be objective and unbiased on matters of science, religion, and general social issues. It's also kind of forced on you there, my primary school was pretty good generally but every afternoon we had to sing hymns and say prayers and stupid stuff like that

[Jessica.]

Hmm trouble with faith schools is that they mind it difficult to be objective and unbiased on matters of science, religion, and general social issues. It's also kind of forced on you there, my primary school was pretty good generally but every afternoon we had to sing hymns and say prayers and stupid stuff like that

My school was very accepting of Science and other non religious things in general. :o

[Patrick]

Is RE not compulsary at all schools though?

Nope.

The Grammar School next door to us don't do R.E :(

[Kizzy]

my parents wouldn't let me go to the all girls school my friends went to as the didn't want me to be 'bitchy'....guess it was inevitable though haha
I dont agree with faith schools faith and school should be compleatly separate.

[Ammi]

Nope.

The Grammar School next door to us don't do R.E :(

Oh right...it is where I live

[King Gizzard]

Don't have a problem with either.

[Jack_]

I completely oppose faith schools personally. No child should essentially be brainwashed with a certain religious belief without being given the choice. Allowing parents to choose their child's religion is just totally wrong in any case if you ask me, it's a personal choice and one that should be made when the child is old enough to comprehend different ideas. Despite what some people may say, I still have a feeling and am in no doubt that in some faith schools they won't properly educate students about other religions and cultures...and of course that's totally wrong.

As for all boy/all girl schools, I disagree with them purely on the basis that children need to be brought up around members of both sexes, so that they can learn about each other, socialise with each other and generally prepare themselves for the rest of their lives. I just...don't really see the point in one-gender schools. Apart from preventing potential sexual distractions there's no other real reason. Seems pretty pointless to me.

Probably should've included private schools in this thread...or maybe I should make a separate one for them.

[joeysteele]

I went to an all boys school, I personally would prefer mixed schools though, I also do agree with faith schools.
It's down to choice really however.

[Niamh.]

I think all boys and all girls schools can be a good idea, there's less distractions and sometimes girls/boys could feel too self conscious to participate fully in the class if the opposite sex are there. personally I think mixed primary and single sex secondary is a good idea.

I hate the fact that most of the schools here are Catholic, I would have liked to send my kids to non denominational schools but there wasn't any near us

[Ammi]

I think all boys and all girls schools can be a good idea, there's less distractions and sometimes girls/boys could feel too self conscious to participate fully in the class if the opposite sex are there. personally I think mixed primary and single sex secondary is a good idea.

I had the fact that most of the schools here are Catholic, I would have liked to send my kids to non denominational schools but there wasn't any near us

Yes...that's what I had....I didn't have any problems with it

[Niamh.]

Yes...that's what I had....I didn't have any problems with it

I actually had it the other way around but I think I would have done better in a single sex secondary.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't think they should exist because your just causing a divide between a certain group of people and everybody else.

[MTVN]

I was considering going to an all boys school for a bit but I'm glad I didn't, I don't think it's a good idea to be restricted to just mainly socialising with one sex :shrug:

[Tom4784]

I believe Religion and Education should always be kept seperate, not all faith schools are as stereotypical as we're led to believe but I think education should be balanced and neutral which are two things you won't fully get at a faith based school. I personally wouldn't send any future children I may have to one.

[Shaun]

I went to an all-boys secondary school... it wasn't a problem :shrug: it makes no difference, really.

[King Gizzard]

The way I see all boy/girl schools, there's no distraction to your education right at the time when boys get interested in girls, and vice versa.

Classes can then also be boy/girls specific and utilise the best ways of teaching for either

[Ammi]

I actually had it the other way around but I think I would have done better in a single sex secondary.

Tbh...it wasn't a problem at all....I socialised with boys outside of school enough and I have two older brothers so there were always lots of boys around our house.

[Harry!]

Religion and Life Issues (PC alert!) was made compulsory in my school which was not a religious school of any kind. Athough my school was a "Language College" which of course emphasised on multicultralism. I now study Relgious Studies at college (I am one of two students from my school who study it - at least at my college :p). I am interested in religious points of view and the moral side of it though I decare myself of no faith.

There are of course many benefits of having same sex schools, I know the Girls' school in my city has attracted a large number of Muslim students - this may help them feel less worried about male attention and teenage boys looking at the students "provocatively". And of course an all boys' school prevents this and at time of prayer there would not be no worry about the male/female divide which is a core rule of worship.

But our Boys' school in our city often has the lowest GCSE grades for the city and that could be down to the steriotypical view of boys being rough and 'ard. So it can effect the students potential.

[Niamh.]

Religion and Life Issues (PC alert!) was made compulsory in my school which was not a religious school of any kind. Athough my school was a "Language College" which of course emphasised on multicultralism. I now study Relgious Studies at college (I am one of two students from my school who study it - at least at my college :p). I am interested in religious points of view and the moral side of it though I decare myself of no faith.

There are of course many benefits of having same sex schools, I know the Girls' school in my city has attracted a large number of Muslim students - this may help them feel less worried about male attention and teenage boys looking at the students "provocatively". And of course an all boys' school prevents this and at time of prayer there would not be no worry about the male/female divide which is a core rule of worship.

But our Boys' school in our city often has the lowest GCSE grades for the city and that could be down to the steriotypical view of boys being rough and 'ard. So it can effect the students potential.

It's the opposite here, most of the schools who get highest marks in The Leaving cert (A levels) are single sex

[rk3388]

It was quite amusing to me the day we learned about evolution with a crucifix hanging in the classroom.

Evolution does not deny the existence of god or any other religion though...

[InOne]

Evolution does not deny the existence of god or any other religion though...

I think it pretty much denies the existence of a creator.

[Jessica.]

Evolution does not deny the existence of god or any other religion though...

I know that, it's just one of those things that people use in the debate.

[rk3388]

I think it pretty much denies the existence of a creator.

:conf:
no it does not whatsoever, trust me i just finished studying this and it straight up says that evolution does not deny the existence of god

[rk3388]

I know that, it's just one of those things that people use in the debate.

* Use falsely* but your right :hugesmile:

[Jesus.]

:conf:
no it does not whatsoever, trust me i just finished studying this and it straight up says that evolution does not deny the existence of god

Well it does make a god of any sorts less likely. After all, evolution isn't a process that needs any kind of outside influence. According to the Abrahamic religions, god created man in his own image, but it actually took him 13.7 billion years of evolution from the beginning of the universe to now.

[InOne]

:conf:
no it does not whatsoever, trust me i just finished studying this and it straight up says that evolution does not deny the existence of god

Ah, I forgot you managed to invent something that fits with evolution.