Can you visualise a new colour?

[Me. I Am Salman]

A completely new and different colour, like how yellow is different to blue for exaple
This is SUCH a brain****, and always leaves me perplexed.

[Doogle]

Nope.

[Smithy]

Serious Debates & News Stories

:laugh2:

[Harry!]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missing_Shade_of_Blue

[Me. I Am Salman]

I'm expecting someone like Livia to come in and turn it into a serious news debate.

[Niall]

It's physically impossible to imagine or perceive a new colour.

[andy191]

Can you think of a new letter that sound's completely different to any other when pronounced?

[Me. I Am Salman]

It's physically impossible to imagine or perceive a new colour.

Mentally impossible

[Ammi]

LOL..Salman, you're....unique

[ILoveTRW]

my bedroom used to be painted a colour that was whiter than white but yet blueish, so yes

[Niall]

Mentally impossible

No it's a physical thing. Our eyes can only perceive a certain spectrum of light, so if there were any other colours, we wouldn't be able to see them because of the physical constraints of our eyes.

[SharkAttack]

No it's a physical thing. Our eyes can only perceive a certain spectrum of light, so if there were any other colours, we wouldn't be able to see them because of the physical constraints of our eyes.

This. You could maybe imagine something with a 3-D fluorescence, but it'd be blinding, or almost impossible to look at, but that's not really a color change. And, yes, I have no idea what I'm talkin about. :joker:

[Ammi]

This. You could maybe imagine something with a 3-D fluorescence, but it'd be blinding, or almost impossible to look at, but that's not really a color change. And, yes, I have no idea what I'm talkin about. :joker:

...sounds good to me

[Harry!]

If you are Locke and you say that "Your mind is a blank slate." then it could be possible. A blind person from birth could visualise a colour in their minds by other descriptions. For example the colour red could be described as "love, hot, fire, evil" and therefore could be visualised.

If you are Hume and with the Missing Shade Of Blue Theory" it could be possible to visualise it but you MUST have had similiar experience to know this. Could you work out the missing colour marked "?" without the blocks next to it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Missing_blue_shade.svg/220px-Missing_blue_shade.svg.png

[Kizzy]

How can there be a missing shade? if you have dark blue, then you add a tiny bit of white, you get lighter blue...surely?
Why are you trying to blag my head? haha

[Harry!]

How can there be a missing shade? if you have dark blue, then you add a tiny bit of white, you get lighter blue...surely?
Why are you trying to blag my head? haha

But the fact is what does it look like? And could you do it in you head without physically forming that colour (ie using paint or pencils). There are of course many critsisms to Hume's theory. I am currently studying Philosophy at college and I know about this.

[Me. I Am Salman]

If you are Locke and you say that "Your mind is a blank slate." then it could be possible. A blind person from birth could visualise a colour in their minds by other descriptions. For example the colour red could be described as "love, hot, fire, evil" and therefore could be visualised.

If you are Hume and with the Missing Shade Of Blue Theory" it could be possible to visualise it but you MUST have had similiar experience to know this. Could you work out the missing colour marked "?" without the blocks next to it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Missing_blue_shade.svg/220px-Missing_blue_shade.svg.png

Reasons like this is why I put it in the serious debate thread
This is certainly no chat.

[Harry!]

Sorry for having a bit of background knowledge :hmph:

[Kizzy]

Blue can be visualized, Cold, sad, sky,...but why is one missing? and why only blue? surely all colours have a spectrum, by the same token there must be a missing red...or a missing yellow?

[Roy Mars III]

Blue can be visualized, Cold, sad, sky,...but why is one missing? and why only blue? surely all colours have a spectrum, by the same token there must be a missing red...or a missing yellow?

lol, your missing the point of the Hume's argument. The fact that it's blue is irrelevant.

[Kizzy]

Right! Im googling it...

[Me. I Am Salman]

Okay can some mod move this to serious news & debates pls?

[Doogle]

I think a mod just moved it here, doubt they're moving it back LOL.

[Josy]

I moved it here, its not a serious debate.

[Kizzy]

oh...so it means even if you cant see something it does not mean it is not real,once you conceptualize something it makes it real?

[Harry!]

oh...so it means even if you cant see something it does not mean it is not real,once you conceptualize something it makes it real?

Yes sort of. It basically challenges the belief that you can visualise something via reason alone and a need of experienced the colour first.

But of course like many theories they have a counter-argument such as it doesn't explain how we get are general concept of blue in the first place. 1+1=2 sort of thing.

[Kizzy]

I got that from this...its just word vomit philosophy isn't it.... haha
http://www.humesociety.org/hs/issues/v15n2/nelson/nelson-v15n2.pdf
Not sure if im allowed to post this, if im not im sure someone will let me know/ rap my knuckles :)