Convert dead Mormons to homosexuality!

[Shaun]

Causing a stir online today is a new website that invites users to posthumously convert Mormons to homosexuality.

The single-serving site is a rather candid knock at the common Mormon practice known as “vicarious baptism” or “proxy baptism,” which involves the baptizing of a living person on behalf of someone who has passed on.

LDS Church members have received significant criticism in the past for attempting to baptize deceased individuals who belonged to a different faith in life. Of particular contention are conversion ceremonies conducted on behalf of Holocaust victims.

Earlier this month the church was forced to apologize to the family of noted Holocaust survivor Simon Wiesenthal, whose parents, it was revealed, had been baptized by proxy in January. Yesterday, a similar story involving iconic Holocaust victim Anne Frank appeared in the media.

The Church has since released a statement vowing to discipline “individual abusers” of the controversial practice.

I imagine this is largely a big "F-You" to Mitt Romney, given his stance on homosexuals, and a story circulating that he converted his father-in-law to Mormonism...after he'd died.

http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/

[GypsyGoth]

I just converted someone called Ruth Young :laugh2:

[Shaun]

I got someone called Larry Lane

[GypsyGoth]

:laugh:

[Marsh.]

This is so wrong but...

*Holocaust victims are not eligible for conversion.

:laugh3:

[Shaun]

I'm not sure why. They sure loved showering together :idc:

i did not just say this i feel awful for this

[Marsh.]

I'm not sure why. They sure loved showering together :idc:

i did not just say this i feel awful for this

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b1HSHLCsIco/T0JvFvvI3lI/AAAAAAAAFQQ/Xzn48hnxIa0/s1600/faint-o.gif

[lostalex]

To be honest, and i'm not religious at all, but i find it weird that people could be offended by this.

To me it actually seems very kind. The idea that they are so compassionate towards someone, and so concerned for them that they would do this, i mean, it is kinda sweet isn't it? Or am i just weird.. I think it actually seems like a nice thing to do.

I don't understand why people think it's offensive. the person is dead and they are just doing it in prayer.

It's not like they are digging people up and stealing their bodies to perform the ritual. It's just prayer.

I don't see how it is offensive. I think it's a sweet thing to do.

[billy123]

Pretty dumb and trashy trolling trying to grab headlines its very westborough baptist churchesque tactics just at the other end of the freak spectrum.
You would have to be pretty stupid not to see how these extremist morons stances wouldnt be upsetting to the people involved familys,friends and anybody with an I.Q. of over 8.

[lostalex]

The fact that other religions are offended by it, makes me think other religions are just very racist against the mormon church. What's wrong with honoring someone from another religion like this?

[lostalex]

Pretty dumb and trashy trolling trying to grab headlines its very westborough baptist churchesque tactics just at the other end of the freak spectrum.
You would have to be pretty stupid not to see how these extremist morons stances wouldnt be upsetting to the people involved familys,friends and anybody with an I.Q. of over 8.

it was only exposed by someone who HATES the mormon church, so obviously it's not the Mormon church trying to make headlines...

[Roy Mars III]

The fact that other religions are offended by it, makes me think other religions are just very racist against the mormon church. What's wrong with honoring someone from another religion like this?

Mormons have always been looked down on by other religious people, especially other Christians

[Shaun]

How is that racism :suspect:

[lostalex]

How is that racism :suspect:
"racism" includes cultural discrimination, and Mormon is a culture just as much as Jewish is a culture.

[Niall]

I got William Thomas -googles-

[arista]

Shaun why post this

they are Nutters

[Jesus.]

Mormons have always been looked down on by other religious people, especially other Christians

All religions love to argue and fight about who has the best imaginary friend.

As soon as they accept that there are many paths to Dog, then their set of superstitions become irrelevant.

Magic Mormon underwear.

http://1857massacre.com/MMM/Images/undrwrmo-couple.jpg

[GypsyGoth]

Magic Mormon underwear.

http://1857massacre.com/MMM/Images/undrwrmo-couple.jpg

:laugh3:

[lostalex]

All religions love to argue and fight about who has the best imaginary friend.

As soon as they accept that there are many paths to Dog, then their set of superstitions become irrelevant.

Magic Mormon underwear.

http://1857massacre.com/MMM/Images/undrwrmo-couple.jpg

i'd rather wear that than a burqa.... just saying...

[Kizzy]

Well dont say. If you are defending one faith its silly to then rubbish another....i hate all organised religion. This is disgusting to assume you have the right to 'convert' corpses. It does not sound very 'christian' to me...the soul has left the body they no longer have free will ergo its impossible. Its a sham scam.

[InOne]

Well dont say. If you are defending one faith its silly to then rubbish another....i hate all organised religion. This is disgusting to assume you have the right to 'convert' corpses. It does not sound very 'christian' to me...the soul has left the body they no longer have free will ergo its impossible. Its a sham scam.

The whole point of Christianity is to spread the word and convert people...

[Kizzy]

The dead are not people.

[InOne]

Indeed, but you get nutters in all religions just like all walks of life.

[Kizzy]

That does not make it right.

[lostalex]

That does not make it right.

define "right".

????????????????

[joeysteele]

The dead are not people.

I may be wrong on this kizzy,maybe you know more on this than I do,I don't though think the Mormon church just converts the dead generally, I think if someone newly converts to their Faith then would like some or all of their loved ones gone before them to be accepted into the faith too,then the Mormon faith will do that and encourage it to be done too by holding a service to recognise the lost loved ones as members of the Church too.

I have chatted with Mormon missionaries and really like a lot of what they do, they are very strong on family bonds and connection so although I myself don't agree with converting the dead, I can accept they would do it in repsonse to a desire from a new convert.

I hold Christian values myself but equally like you I dislike organized religions, however, Christian faith instructs that the dead are elsewhere,not gone completely.

[Kizzy]

I did in my earlier post. im not repeating myself, that is my opinion.

[Kizzy]

I whilst alive you choose to repent or convert fine....once deceased....no

[joeysteele]

I did in my earlier post. im not repeating myself, that is my opinion.

I wasn't being critical of your view, overall I agree with your take on things. You made a very strong point as to the wrongs of organised religions.

I was just trying to balance my own view with the official Mormon view.
However personally, were I to convert to a particular religion,no way would I want or expect any of my loved ones gone before me to have any conversions done for them.

[Kizzy]

I understand, thankyou joey :) If you choose to convert/adopt a religion that is great. But to suggest your great grandfather should is wrong on so many levels.Im not religious but quite spiritual, i think those passed deserve respect.

[joeysteele]

I understand, thankyou joey :) If you choose to convert/adopt a religion that is great. But to suggest your great grandfather should is wrong on so many levels.Im not religious but quite spiritual, i think those passed deserve respect.

My personal thinking is exactly the same as yours as to that kizzy, you made very strong points.

[lostalex]

I whilst alive you choose to repent or convert fine....once deceased....no

Umm, what? ....is this english?

[Kizzy]

Sorry i missed an eff off...it should say 'If whilst alive..'

[lostalex]

Sorry i missed an eff off...it should say 'If whilst alive..'

are you jewish?

[Kizzy]

no

[lostalex]

no

are you muslim?

[Kizzy]

Are you mormon? I have had enough of your interrogation alex, i have made my point and dont have to justify myself to you.

[lostalex]

Are you mormon? I have had enough of your interrogation alex, i have made my point and dont have to justify myself to you.

you are correct you don't have to do anything for me. just a question, geesh.

i'm just asking cause obviously this topic involves religion. I'm an agnostic personally. (raised catholic though)

[Kizzy]

Well funnily enough for once me and my dtr are in full agreement... get the flags out haha

[lostalex]

Well funnily enough for once me and my dtr are in full agreement... get the flags out haha

dtr = doctor? like a psychiatrist you mean?

[Kizzy]

No, my daughter...:S

[lostalex]

No, my daughter...:S
plz don't bring children into this den of inequity.

this thread is about dead bodies and anal sex. no need to bring children into this.

...unless yur willing to sign some sort of consent form...?

[Pyramid*]

dtr = doctor? like a psychiatrist you mean?

Now that sounds very much like a dig lostalex.


To mess around with the the 'principles' that a person held when alive - now that they are dead - tbh, one hell of a sick & warped sense of humour imo.

I am not religious in any way, shape or form but I happen to think this is extremely distasteful - regardless of how funny some others think it may be.

[lostalex]

Now that sounds very much like a dig lostalex.


To mess around with the the 'principles' that a person held when alive - now that they are dead - tbh, one hell of a sick & warped sense of humour imo.

I am not religious in any way, shape or form but I happen to think this is extremely distasteful - regardless of how funny some others think it may be.

ok, well you are wrong, it wasn't a dig.

i would have made the comment in response to anyone on the forum, so i wasn't targetting or "digging" at her.

yu honestly think DTR is a common abbreviation? so how is it a dig that i asked her? It LOOKS like doctor. I have had a psychiatrist before, why do you think having a psychiatrist would be insulting? seriously it's almost like you are harassing me and targetting me right now. If you wanna talk about someone DIGGING.

You know i woulda said the same thing to anyone on the forum. It wasn't a dig.

[Kizzy]

She is 18...anal sex? whats wrong with you!

[Pyramid*]

ok, well you are wrong, it wasn't a dig.

i would have made the comment in response to anyone on the forum, so i wasn't targetting or "digging" at her.

yu honestly think DTR is a common abbreviation? so how is it a dig that i asked her? It LOOKS like doctor. I have had a psychiatrist before, why do you think having a psychiatrist would be insulting? seriously it's almost like you are harassing me and targetting me right now. If you wanna talk about someone DIGGING.

You know i woulda said the same thing to anyone on the forum. It wasn't a dig.

It was not the doctor comment, it was your additional 'like a pyschiatrist' comment and I suspect you know that fine well.

Most people think of a doctor as in GP.

As for me harrassing and targetting you. Given this was my first comment on this thread - I doubt that very much. I found your comments on here the most disagreeable towards other fms - hence why I responded.

I didn't say you were insulting, I said it sounded like you were having a dig. Big difference.

That's how forums work.

[lostalex]

It was not the doctor comment, it was your additional 'like a pyschiatrist' comment and I suspect you know that fine well.

Most people think of a doctor as in GP.

As for me harrassing and targetting you. Given this was my first comment on this thread - I doubt that very much. I found your comments on here the most disagreeable towards other fms - hence why I responded.

I didn't say you were insulting, I said it sounded like you were having a dig. Big difference.

That's how forums work.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg507/scaled.php?server=507&filename=madonna002.gif&res=medium


so you think someone who seeks psychiatric treatment is some how degraded? what is INSULTING about receiving care from a psychiatrist? Please explain that to me.

[Pyramid*]

so you think someone who seeks psychiatric treatment is some how degraded? what is INSULTING about receiving care from a psychiatrist? Please explain that to me.

That's not discussing the topic. Feel free to PM me, if I want to discuss this further, I will do it off the board.

[lostalex]

That's not discussing the topic. Feel free to PM me, if I want to discuss this further, I will do it off the board.

how strange that you didn't give me that same courtesy when you addressed me... how peculiar, some might even say hypocritical.

[Kizzy]

There is no point being argumentative with other members new to the topic, i have shown my 'child' is of an age to make her own mind up on the discussion. Well just the religious issue , nothing else...

[Pyramid*]

how strange that you didn't give me that same courtesy when you addressed me... how peculiar, some might even say hypocritical.


You will see I in fact, addressed your comment and then also addressed the subject matter together.

Not continuing a dicussion that is off topic is sticking to the rules of the forum. I addressed what you asked me - however it is off topic - and if you want to discuss it further - take it to PM. Any further posts on the matter will be ignored by me.

[lostalex]

You will see I in fact, addressed your comment and then also addressed the subject matter together.

Not continuing a dicussion that is off topic is sticking to the rules of the forum. I addressed what you asked me - however it is off topic - and if you want to discuss it further - take it to PM. Any further posts on the matter will be ignored by me.


Why would i want to discuss it further? i never wanted to discuss anything with you to begin with. I was only responding to your ACCUSATION againt ME. I called you out for your bigotry against the mental health profession, then all of a sudden you'd rather talk in private.

[Pyramid*]

There is no point being argumentative with other members new to the topic, i have shown my 'child' is of an age to make her own mind up on the discussion. Well just the religious issue , nothing else...



on topic: people believe in what they want to: but to use their death
to try to alter what they believed in, whilst they were alive - to alter what made them the person they were in life: I think is utter disrespectful.

Those who died, did nothing to any of us here in real life....why would anyone want to faff about with this type of thing ''coz they think it's funny'' - I don't get it. C'est la vie I guess.

[arista]

There are Online Nutters in America

why even post this link, shaun?

[lostalex]

There are Nutters in America

why even post this link, shaun?

We are a very eccentric bunch. :)

[Pyramid*]

There are Nutters in America

why even post this link, shaun?

I think there are nutters all over the world.

I do have to agree Arista - it might be a news story - but it's certainly not a serious debate - seems a bad idea for News Stories to have been mixed in with Serious Debates section.

Perhaps Serious News Stories would have been a better category if being mixed with Serious Debates.

[arista]

We are a very eccentric bunch. :)


No this is beyond that.

[lostalex]

No this is beyond that.

a SUPER eccentric bunch. ;)

[Jesus.]

i'd rather wear that than a burqa.... just saying...

I'd rather people didn't believe in any of these ridiculous superstitions. The founder of Mormonism was a known con man.

If people were rational and treated each other as though this is the only life we have, so we need to live it well, then the world, and the people on it, would be in a lot better shape.

There is no tit for tat with ridiculous religious attire.

[CharlieO]

I converted Debra Lee :)

[armand.kay]

I have never heard of Mormons what are they.

[Roy Mars III]

I have never heard of Mormons what are they.

they don't actually exist

[arista]

I have never heard of Mormons what are they.


The Osmonds are them


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormons


They are Freaks
and one is trying to be future leader of USA

[Z]

This is just really warped.

[arista]

This is just really warped.


Ideal for America

[Z]

Ideal for America

:laugh: You raise a good point

[Shaun]

I posted it because I will not cease until all Mormons are converted to homosexuality, arista. Duh.

[arista]

I posted it because I will not cease until all Mormons are converted to homosexuality, arista. Duh.


That will not happen.

Crazy link to do a thread on.

[arista]

:laugh: You raise a good point


You will do well in America
as you learn fast.




Feel The Force

[Shaun]

I THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY I'VE ALREADY MADE 6 PEOPLE GAY AND NOW FOR YOUR INSUBORDINATION I'LL MAKE THAT SEVEN x

[Marc]

What the hell? I don't get this?..

[Shaun]

It's a pisstake because Mitt Romney made headlines for supposedly converting his dead father-in-law to the Mormon church. He also has some questionable opinions re: homosexuality. So 1+1=troll

[arista]

It's a pisstake because Mitt Romney made headlines for supposedly converting his dead father-in-law to the Mormon church. He also has some questionable opinions re: homosexuality. So 1+1=troll


Yes but from a Crazy link.

Most of them are against gays
Thats America, honey

[lostalex]

I'm much more offended by the implication that you can "convert" someone to homosexuality, than converting someone to mormonism.

Whoever created this stupid website is clearly a hateful bigot and homophobic. It's offensive to gay people, not Mormons.

[lostalex]

Yes but from a Crazy link.

Most of them are against gays
Thats America, honey

remind me again when any gays in the UK had equal rights? oh yea, NEVER, so how is that "AMERICA", HONEY??

The UK is just as homophobic as America.