Student, 18, moves in with teacher 41, after he leaves wife and children & quits job

[fruit_cake]

Student, 18, moves in with computer teacher, 41, after he leaves wife and children and quits job

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108725/Jordan-Powers-18-moves-James-Hooker-41-quits-teaching-job.html#ixzz1o3H5Nh6A

is this right or wrong morally, the forum must decide!

I'd say it was not wrong, but it's going to end in tears probably.

[Roy Mars III]

he was texting her when she was underage, it is wrong

[fruit_cake]

but if they're happy is it wrong?

[Novo]

You've got to ask yourself why someone as good looking as her is going out with him.. one of those questions in life that need to be answered

[Livia]

If he was a millionaire and she was a model, no one would bat an eye.

[Jords]

You've got to ask yourself why someone as good looking as her is going out with him.. one of those questions in life that need to be answered

Lifes not about looks.




She is really good-looking though :amazed:
But it depends if she was the 'pusher' for it to happen or him and if anything illegal happened before she turned 18 I guess. They do look happy :shrug:

Its weird though because when hes 82 she'll only be 59......

Edit: I hate math, thanks Livia

[Niamh.]

I feel sorry for his wife and kids. You would have to wonder what an 18 year old school kid and a married 41 year old with a wife and kids have in common though.

[Callum]

Wrong, he was grooming her before she was 18. The mother has every right to be angry, this man sounds like a sick pervert.

[Niamh.]

Lifes not about looks.




She is really good-looking though :amazed:
But it depends if she was the 'pusher' for it to happen or him and if anything illegal happened before she turned 18 I guess. They do look happy :shrug:

Its weird though because when hes 82 she'll only be 36......

Do you really think they'll still be together then? :laugh:

[waterhog]

its not going to last is it ? after a few weeks what are they going to say to each other ?

[Roy Mars III]

it depends if she entered the relationship of her own free will, or, as said, if he was grooming her.

[Omah]

Wrong - teachers should not instigate, encourage or perpetuate sexual relationships with any pupil at the school where they work - any sexual relationships, consummated or not, formed by a middle-aged man with "schoolchildren" should be cause for police investigation ..... :idc:

[thesheriff443]

it happens every day of the week,even on big brother, aaron and faye!
11 years between them he is still married with a kid, not the same sitation but not far away,

[Roy Mars III]

Wrong - teachers should not instigate, encourage or perpetuate sexual relationships with any pupil at the school where they work - any sexual relationships, consummated or not, formed by a middle-aged man with "schoolchildren" should be cause for police investigation ..... :idc:

he quit his job before they moved in togeter

[fruit_cake]

tbf to them they do seem to have lasted quite a while. If it were just a fling it would be over by now I'd have thought.

[Omah]

he quit his job before they moved in togeter

Their "relationship" began long before that ..... Mrs Powers discovered up to 8,000 text messages exchanged between them, emails and late night phone calls.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108725/Jordan-Powers-18-moves-James-Hooker-41-quits-teaching-job.html#ixzz1o3OruYWB

[Livia]

Lifes not about looks.




She is really good-looking though :amazed:
But it depends if she was the 'pusher' for it to happen or him and if anything illegal happened before she turned 18 I guess. They do look happy :shrug:

Its weird though because when hes 82 she'll only be 36......

When he's 82, she'll be 59, surely...

Goes to see if it was Jords who started the numeracy thread...

[thesheriff443]

in some countries an 11 year old girl is married off to a 40 year old man,

[Jords]

I feel sorry for his wife and kids. You would have to wonder what an 18 year old school kid and a married 41 year old with a wife and kids have in common though.

After school clubs :whistle:

[Roy Mars III]

the student/teacher thing and whether the relationship was mutual and not grooming is the problem really, the age isn't really a big deal imo

[Omah]

Goes to see if it was Jords who started the numeracy thread...

It wasn't ..... ;)

[thesheriff443]

he was giveing her sex education!

[fruit_cake]

the student/teacher thing is the only problem really, the age isn't really a big deal imo

I agree the school thing definitely seems to be the more disturbing issue

[Jords]

When he's 82, she'll be 59, surely...

Goes to see if it was Jords who started the numeracy thread...

Yes youre right :joker:
I just doubled their ages for some reason vjiorvhniethvnoi /niall

Thats not THAT bad tbf. My nextdoor neighbours got together at 19 and 40-something but they were both prison wardens. Its not that uncommon its just the fact it developed in a school environment and he had a wife and kids.

Our neighbours have been together a good 5 years now and have a kid. It can work... (and shes gorgeous too!)

[Niamh.]

I agree the school thing definitely seems to be the more disturbing issue

I'm torn by this tbh, I know it's legal and all but I can't help thinking about if it was my daughter and I think I would be livid at the man. I know 18 is technically an adult and maybe in a less seedy kind of set up, it wouldn't be as bad but the fact that he was her teacher and he left a wife and kids, doesn't paint the most honourable picture of the man imo

[fruit_cake]

I'm torn by this tbh, I know it's legal and all but I can't help thinking about if it was my daughter and I think I would be livid at the man. I know 18 is technically an adult and maybe in a less seedy kind of set up, it wouldn't be as bad but the fact that he was her teacher and he left a wife and kids, doesn't paint the most honourable picture of the man imo

tbf to the man, it must have been a big step leaving his job and family etc, and does give him some sort of weird credibility. It doesn't really say what the situation is with his kids though, I'd hope he still has some form of contact with them.

He is also taking the risk that this girl might just decide to leave him. She has nothing to lose at this point really, whereas he has already sacrificed a lot to be with her.. actually it doesn't put the relationship on stable ground at all really, having to carry that around their necks.

[joeysteele]

I am not sure only because of the student/teacher thing.

You cannot help you who fall in love with or become strongly attracted to, age is just a number, I am 20 but know people in their 40s and 50s who are far more young in outlook than some teenagers and 20+ year olds .

However, in this instance, a teacher does have to keep a distance from pupils,so maybe it's an unwise move as to that issue.
If they are happy,(also he has quit his job),plus it's their choice then no harm done really except to the family now broken up but often love or strrong attraction causes people to act in a throwing caution to the wind action.
Actions that may be massively regretted later on,especially if things go sour between these 2 in the near or distant future.

[arista]

Student, 18, moves in with computer teacher, 41, after he leaves wife and children and quits job

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108725/Jordan-Powers-18-moves-James-Hooker-41-quits-teaching-job.html#ixzz1o3H5Nh6A

is this right or wrong morally, the forum must decide!

I'd say it was not wrong, but it's going to end in tears probably.



It's American Student

So its Typical for them.

[Niamh.]

I am not sure only because of the student/teacher thing.

You cannot help you who fall in love with or become strongly attracted to, age is just a number, I am 20 but know people in their 40s and 50s who are far more young in outlook than some teenagers and 20+ year olds .

However, in this instance, a teacher does have to keep a distance from pupils,so maybe it's an unwise move as to that issue.
If they are happy,(also he has quit his job),plus it's their choice then no harm done really except to the family now broken up but often love or strrong attraction causes people to act in a throwing caution to the wind action.
Actions that may be massively regretted later on,especially if things go sour between these 2 in the near or distant future.

I don't believe this for a second, you can't help who you're attracted to but love is something that happens over time and work imo

[GypsyGoth]

That teacher guy should never have been a teacher.

Aren't they meant to help students learn and not fall in love with them?

[MTVN]

Love knows no boundaries :lovedup:



But no, this is weird

[GypsyGoth]

Love knows no boundaries :lovedup:



But no, this is weird

Having a crush on a teacher is normal. It's wrong when the teachers have crushes on the students.

[Niamh.]

Having a crush on a teacher is normal. It's wrong when the teachers have crushes on the students.

Yeah it is, it's part of the job to not get involved with students, he was out of order

[GypsyGoth]

Yeah it is, it's part of the job to not get involved with students, he was out of order

:worship:

[MTVN]

I wasn't being serious with my comment :laugh:

[Niamh.]

I wasn't being serious with my comment :laugh:

I bet you were :nono:

[GypsyGoth]

I wasn't being serious with my comment :laugh:

Yea I realised after I quoted you that we've got the same opinion on this :laugh:

[fruit_cake]

the power of love :lovedup:


is not acceptable here

[Niamh.]

the power of love :lovedup:


is not acceptable here

It's a glorious thing :lovedup:





But not with students.

[Ramsay]

ehhh i guess you cant help who you fall in love with
but i just feel really bad for his wife and kids especially the one whos only a year younger than the girl he left his family for ..must be really hard

[fruit_cake]

love will find away... :lovedup:



but not here it won't

[Niamh.]

ehhh i guess you cant help who you fall in love with
but i just feel really bad for his wife and kids especially the one whos only a year younger than the girl he left his family for ..must be really hard

Of course you can help who you fall in love with :nono:

[Niamh.]

love will find away... :lovedup:



but not here it won't

Love is all around :lovedup:




But not at school

[fruit_cake]

:laugh:

when two hearts collide... :lovedup:




the consequences are not acceptable

[Shaun]

i just... don't care. and don't understand why others do.

[SharkAttack]

Yeah it is, it's part of the job to not get involved with students, he was out of order

I agree with this. Teachers are supposed to be safe, they have a hand in raising and educating the children(non-adult) not getting romantically involved with them.

[joeysteele]

Of course you can help who you fall in love with :nono:

Normally I agree with you almost 100% Niamh, but from what I have come across even in my own family there are couples, who really do love each other but life is very difficult and their relationship is too between them.
However, no matter what, they stick by each other and have an almost unbreakable bond between them.

I have come across that too in University as to staff there particularly as to 'not approved of' relationships by their friends or family,possibly even too by society. If the feeling/love is there though,virtually nothing will stop them getting together no matter the question marks as to the relationship.

Having said that,I am not in love with anyone yet,maybe I never will be, I love loads of people in a family/friend like way but in no relationship so I bow to your greater knowledge with the fullest respect on this issue.

[Ammi]

I agree with Niamh on this. I do believe we have control over who we fall in love with. I don't believe love is 'instant' and I don't believe there is only one person on this earth we are capable of loving. We have attractions and opportunities and it is a consious decision to act on them. Attraction is one thing..love is another. There are many things I disagree with in this particular story...the betrayal of trust and deceipt of his wife and family being the first

[waterhog]

well said ammi - she is the person who i feel most sorry for as the other 2 made the decission - yes the girl is young and niave but maybe its a mistake she will lern from .

[Kizzy]

Its a bloke having a midlife crisis, similar to the boss who has an affair with his secretary and buys a motorbike..Her being an ex pupil does but a seedy spin on it though. It wont last.

[Roy Mars III]

http://gma.yahoo.com/california-student-relationship-teacher-moves-sexual-assault-arrest-131605656--abc-news-topstories.html

oh dear

[Boothy]

:joker:

[Ammi]

..oh dear..just when it all seemed so perfect

[arista]

http://gma.yahoo.com/california-student-relationship-teacher-moves-sexual-assault-arrest-131605656--abc-news-topstories.html

oh dear


Guilty

Nonce.

[Vicky.]

Is the age of consent in america 18?

I didnt know that:/

[Patrick]

Is the age of consent in america 18?

I didnt know that:/

Indeed.
That's why American teenagers always seem so happy go lucky and innocent and cheerful, can be seen as a good thing I suppose.

[bbfan1991]

I feel sorry for his wife and kids, although I don't think this relationship will last for the pupil and her ex Teacher.

[Pyramid*]

People form relationships often with those they are most contact with in life.

Married people grow apart, people change. Not ideal but that's life.

If both of them were consenting adults, if his 'married' relationship was on the rocks and beyond repair: I see no reason for a married couple to remain in that marriage if both of them are not equally happy.

How often does anyone in the celeb world get flack when the rich sugar daddies have the young 18 year old bimbos having off their arms? Very rarely when we are talking of 18 & 41 year olds. No one bats an eyelid these days. In fact: the guy gets all the slaps on the back for being able to pull a 'young one'.

Do the rules change because these two people are normal everyday folk?

Morals are personal to individuals - one set of morals doesn't mean they are wrong, it's simply a different set of morals based on our own subjective judgements.

If he made a clean break from the wife, from a marriage that was already dead - I'd far rather see 2 people be happy, than have 3 people unhappy. It might not be nice, but it's life. Who are we or anyone else to say that he should remain in an unhappy relationship? Is he meant to stay in an unhappy relationship because it will make his 'wife' happy? That in my mind is absurd.


The messy part is the student/teacher relationship - that's where it gets a bit out of control but given that he resigned from his job before he moved in with her - I don't see why that really has any impact. Different if he were still teaching and she still was his student.

Do I think it will last? In all reality, no but that doesn't mean he can't make the choice on whether he wants to be happier with someone else. It's his choice.

[Mystic Mock]

My god she looks beautiful.

Anyway she's old enough and his not her Teacher anymore so I think it's fine, although a bit weird.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree with this. Teachers are supposed to be safe, they have a hand in raising and educating the children(non-adult) not getting romantically involved with them.

Really? i've seen Teachers everyday at my School spanking there students, kissing them and giving them sextexts.

[Mystic Mock]

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