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Scarlett.
14-03-2012, 02:36 PM
The Human Centipede 3 (Final Sequence) looks set to be the most horrifying of the series, with director Tom Six revealing plans to seriously up the ante for the final outing of the franchise.

“[Human Centipede 3] will have a 500+ person pede” announced Six via his Twitter feed. “XXXXL American style!” How exactly that will work is anyone’s guess, but nobody can accuse Six of thinking small…

Six previously told The Playlist that his plans for the final film were to create a final piece in the jigsaw that would bring the trilogy together, and interconnect all three stories.

“The thing is that Part Two started with the end of Part One,” explained Six, “Part Three will start with the ending of Part Two, and I did that because in the end, all of the films can literally be connected, like a centipede. So you have one four and a half hour film, and I love that idea, even though all of the films are so different.”

Whether or not anyone could stand four and a half hours of this stuff is another matter, but at least the man has ambition. Meanwhile, original villain Dieter Laser has been officially confirmed to return for the third outing, an intriguing move given how the first Human Centipede film finished…

The Human Centipede 3 (Final Sequence) is expected to arrive at some point in 2013. Let the moral outrage commence!

Total Film

Oh, he's such a creative fellow is that Tom Six bloke

Jords
14-03-2012, 02:37 PM
Why????? :S

Benjamin
14-03-2012, 02:37 PM
:bored:

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 02:38 PM
oh ffs

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 02:39 PM
Oh, he's such a creative fellow is that Tom Six bloke

Modern day Hitchcock

Black Dagger
14-03-2012, 02:42 PM
lovely stuff

Livia
14-03-2012, 02:43 PM
Modern day Hitchcock

You're half right.

Benjamin
14-03-2012, 02:45 PM
You're half right.

:joker:

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 02:46 PM
You're half right.

:laugh2:

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 02:48 PM
Has anyone actually watched any of these? When I read the synopsis of the first film, I felt ill for days afterwards, who enjoys.........pardon the pun.......that kind of s**t?

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 02:52 PM
I made it about half way in the first one before I turned it off. It wasn't even really that it was sick or anything like that, it was just a really bad movie

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 02:54 PM
I made it about half way in the first one before I turned it off. It wasn't even really that it was sick or anything like that, it was just a really bad movie

It's just the idea itself, it's revolting, I don't see where entertainment comes into it at all :conf:

Marc
14-03-2012, 02:56 PM
That's a whole load of re-used poo

Black Dagger
14-03-2012, 02:57 PM
It's just the idea itself, it's revolting, I don't see where entertainment comes into it at all :conf:

It is very niche, some people have a fetish almost for that sort of thing, it's vile :bored:

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 02:59 PM
It is very niche, some people have a fetish almost for that sort of thing, it's vile :bored:

They should stick with fetish porn movies then I think :joker:

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 03:01 PM
It's just the idea itself, it's revolting, I don't see where entertainment comes into it at all :conf:

yeah, it's part of the 'shock' horror genre, not a fan of those type of movies myself.

Marsh.
14-03-2012, 03:03 PM
It's just cheap torture porn with a load of poo thrown in. The man should keep his vices behind closed doors. No one wants to see it. 2 girls, 1 cup was bad enough.

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 03:04 PM
yeah, it's part of the 'shock' horror genre, not a fan of those type of movies myself.

Yeah, me neither tbh, I do like horrors but ones that scare me not ones that make me feel sick

Marc
14-03-2012, 03:08 PM
The first one is really really weird.

Might watch the second one though :joker:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-03-2012, 03:26 PM
i miss saw

Smithy
14-03-2012, 03:40 PM
D:

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 03:44 PM
i miss saw

what did you miss see?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-03-2012, 03:47 PM
-tumbleweed-

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-03-2012, 03:49 PM
but saw was actually good :nono:

yeah it was sick but atleast there was a story to it and the early ones especially were more to do with story than just pointless gore which is why i liked them i havent even seen any of the centipede films and i would never watch them

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 03:51 PM
it has just about single handily turned the horror genre into a shell of its former self. Horror in it's worst form

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 03:56 PM
it has just about single handily turned the horror genre into a shell of its former self. Horror in it's worst form

I don't even class films like Saw or Hostel as horror, they should have a whole new title, like torture film or something imo

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-03-2012, 03:59 PM
it is its known as torture porn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_porn#Torture_porn

;__;

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 04:02 PM
it is its known as torture porn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_porn#Torture_porn

;__;

ah, I never knew that, rightly so as well

Ramsay
14-03-2012, 04:24 PM
great news!

Marc
14-03-2012, 04:28 PM
i miss saw

same.

Me. I Am Salman
14-03-2012, 05:19 PM
Saw was amazing :lovedup:

I so badly want to watch Human Centipede but I cba.

Tom4784
14-03-2012, 05:20 PM
I weep for creativity when **** like this gets commissioned.

Jesus.
14-03-2012, 05:31 PM
Saw was amazing :lovedup:

I so badly want to watch Human Centipede but I cba.

So you really want to watch it, but can't be arsed watching?

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj116/cfbsigs/AUPPL/coleman_wtf.gif

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-03-2012, 05:44 PM
idc what anyone says the first 2 saws were amazing :hmph:

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 05:46 PM
if you want some great splatter horror see The Devil's Rejects, or any of Zombie's horror films that isn't that trash Halloween remake.

Ramsay
14-03-2012, 05:47 PM
Saw was great
loved the ending 1 and 2...the end of the last one was great too

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-03-2012, 05:48 PM
now devils rejects thats sick :nono:

i havent seen all of it just little bits when it was on tv one night and from what i could gather some girl had been raped with a gun

Roy Mars III
14-03-2012, 05:49 PM
great film

greatest horror character ever

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/c/c5/Billmreject.jpg

Kazanne
14-03-2012, 07:15 PM
I havent seen the second one,I watched some of the first one by accident and thought it was gross,but it seems to have a bit of a cult following now(I did say 'cult')lol,lord knows why ,I love horrors and can stomach most things but that was not my kind of movie at all.

Jake.
14-03-2012, 07:43 PM
if you want some great splatter horror see The Devil's Rejects, or any of Zombie's horror films that isn't that trash Halloween remake.

The devils rejects :love:

Niall
14-03-2012, 08:22 PM
It actually makes me feel sick. I saw the trailer for the first one and I felt ill. I read the synopsis for the second and I very nearly threw up.

I don't understand what compels this man to make such disgusting, vile and grotesque movies. He's ****ed up in the head. Really.

Niamh.
14-03-2012, 08:25 PM
It actually makes me feel sick. I saw the trailer for the first one and I felt ill. I read the synopsis for the second and I very nearly threw up.

I don't understand what compels this man to make such disgusting, vile and grotesque movies. He's ****ed up in the head. Really.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-wAlrWQCNlxU/TfLTPZ8wbXI/AAAAAAAABZs/EjaA5OQVxWI/applause%25255B3%25255D.gif

Mrluvaluva
14-03-2012, 08:25 PM
I think most people actually watch films like The Human Centipede out of inqusitiveness. I know I did. I thought the synopsis was a bit sick, but was intrigued, so when the film came on the SyFy channel it made me want to watch it. Shock tactics basically. The film was pretty crap though. It had no clever twist to it and the acting was pretty dire which doesn't want me make to watch the second one.


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MTVN
15-03-2012, 01:42 AM
Kind of people who make these films think they're being really artistic by trying to break through boundaries and stuff, most just rightly think they're a bit sick though, I'll probably end up watching the films at some point though out of curiosity

swinearefine
15-03-2012, 02:24 AM
Big Brother influenced horror film The Human Centipede, says director
The director of controversial new film The Human Centipede claims his experience working on Big Brother influenced the movie.

Tom Six told Metro.co.uk in an exclusive chat that his stint as a director for the TV show in Holland gave him an insight into "human behaviour".
"It was a very good learning experience," he said.
"I got to see a lot of human behaviour and that really helps as a director when you write your script. You see more under the microscope."
The Human Centipede revolves around a crazy surgeon (played by Dieter Laser) who kidnaps tourists and conducts gruesome experiments on them.
He ends up surgically joining two young American women and a Japanese man to form a "human centipede".
Cinema-goers were so shocked over the film that some even created a Facebook page filled with death threats.
He defended his film saying: "I like it when people talk about your film."
"When you write a story like this you know it’s going to be controversial. People are going to love it or absolutely hate it, and I don’t care really much."
"Of course there are people who are really angry but it's just a movie - it's make believe."
"I’m not a murder or child rapist. I’m just a film-maker."
The Human Centipede is out on release now.


Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/film/839355-big-brother-influenced-horror-film-the-human-centipede-says-director#ixzz1p9FiIqxB

Shaun
15-03-2012, 02:34 AM
what a load of crap

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw0yv3Uk4K1qbjo08o1_250.png

lostalex
15-03-2012, 02:39 AM
A Serbian Film was better imo.

King Gizzard
15-03-2012, 05:33 AM
whoever made A.S.F needs looking at :crazy:

Ammi
15-03-2012, 05:36 AM
..I have no idea what this threads about...but somehow I know I don't want to either

Jessica.
15-03-2012, 06:11 AM
:shocked:

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 10:41 AM
..I have no idea what this threads about...but somehow I know I don't want to either

Wise choice Ammi

Z
15-03-2012, 11:07 AM
I've never watched either film, torture porn isn't appealing to me.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
15-03-2012, 11:12 AM
a serbian film is terrible :bored:

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 11:21 AM
This thread piqued my interest, so I actually watched the first one last night.

It's a slow film, that's creepy, but it isn't really torture porn. There is no gratuitous violence or anything like that.

You don't really see anything stomach churning at all, no scenes of anyone being joined together, and everything is covered by bandages afterwards.

So whilst this film is bad, it's not bad in the way that many people who haven't seen it would think.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 11:26 AM
I hate stuff like this, I hate horror gore or violence. In film or game format i am sure it leads to a degree of desensitisation.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
15-03-2012, 11:31 AM
the second one is a whole lot worse from what i have heard

a woman gives birth in a car, and the baby ends up on the floor of the car and its head is under the pedal and she puts her foot down to escape and crushes the babys head

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 11:38 AM
This thread piqued my interest, so I actually watched the first one last night.

It's a slow film, that's creepy, but it isn't really torture porn. There is no gratuitous violence or anything like that.

You don't really see anything stomach churning at all, no scenes of anyone being joined together, and everything is covered by bandages afterwards.

So whilst this film is bad, it's not bad in the way that many people who haven't seen it would think.

I haven't watched any of them (tbh just reading the idea of it made me feel sick for days) but from what I heard the second was far worse and much more on the torture porn road than the first, It was even banned in the UK (I think it was unbanned later though after removing some particularly bad scenes

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 11:38 AM
the second one is a whole lot worse from what i have heard

a woman gives birth in a car, and the baby ends up on the floor of the car and its head is under the pedal and she puts her foot down to escape and crushes the babys head

Sounds like a wholesome comedy for all the family. I'm surprised Will Ferrell and Jennifer Aniston aren't in it.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
15-03-2012, 11:39 AM
:joker:

Scarlett.
15-03-2012, 11:52 AM
This thread piqued my interest, so I actually watched the first one last night.

It's a slow film, that's creepy, but it isn't really torture porn. There is no gratuitous violence or anything like that.

You don't really see anything stomach churning at all, no scenes of anyone being joined together, and everything is covered by bandages afterwards.

So whilst this film is bad, it's not bad in the way that many people who haven't seen it would think.The first one isnt really that bad, in a way its quite well done. The second on from what I hear is like "LOL! BARBED WIRE RAPE WHILE BEING FORCE FED **** AND MASTURBATING WITH SANDPAPER! LOL!" And nothing in that 'quoted' sentence is made up.

lostalex
15-03-2012, 11:56 AM
The first one isnt really that bad, in a way its quite well done. The second on from what I hear is like "LOL! BARBED WIRE RAPE WHILE BEING FORCE FED **** AND MASTURBATING WITH SANDPAPER! LOL!" And nothing in that 'quoted' sentence is made up.
not to mention the woman trying to escape, then giving birth, and killing her own baby to escape... her baby was under the pedal, and she stepped on the pedal crushing her baby's skull,, that was pretty amazing./

not as amazing as newborn porn though!

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 11:56 AM
The first one isnt really that bad, in a way its quite well done. The second on from what I hear is like "LOL! BARBED WIRE RAPE WHILE BEING FORCE FED **** AND MASTURBATING WITH SANDPAPER! LOL!" And nothing in that 'quoted' sentence is made up.

I did actually watch the first 2 minutes of the second one last night, before asking myself, "I've just sat through an hour and a half of this ****, why would I want to sit through another hour and a half?"

I might watch the second one later. I'll report my learnings.

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 11:57 AM
not to mention the woman trying to escape, then giving birth, and killing her own baby to escape... her baby was under the pedal, and she stepped on the pedal drushing her babies skull,, that was pretty amazing./

not as amazing as newborn porn though!

This post isn't going to help your warning/infraction/banning record.

lostalex
15-03-2012, 11:58 AM
This post isn't going to help your warning/infraction/banning record.

umm, why would i get an infraction for talking about a movie? don't be stupid.

which rule did i break? you are harassing me now, maybe yu should worry about breaking that rule.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 11:59 AM
not to mention the woman trying to escape, then giving birth, and killing her own baby to escape... her baby was under the pedal, and she stepped on the pedal crushing her baby's skull,, that was pretty amazing./

not as amazing as newborn porn though!


WTF! did you really just say all that?

Scarlett.
15-03-2012, 11:59 AM
not to mention the woman trying to escape, then giving birth, and killing her own baby to escape... her baby was under the pedal, and she stepped on the pedal crushing her baby's skull,, that was pretty amazing./

not as amazing as newborn porn though!

My point is, that sort of 'horror' isnt only wierd, but it's uncreative, the horror is created through shock tactics. The horror in the first film is totally psychological, and more deep.

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:00 PM
WTF! did you really just say all that?

ummm, that's what happened in the movie, this is a thread about human centipede right?

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:01 PM
My point is, that sort of 'horror' isnt only wierd, but it's uncreative, the horror is created through shock tactics. The horror in the first film is totally psychological, and more deep.

i agree the motivation was shock, but it was shocking, so technically it was successful...

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 12:03 PM
umm, why would i get an infraction for talking about a movie? don't be stupid.

which rule did i break? you are harassing me now, maybe yu should worry about breaking that rule.

Maybe a little something about newborn porn being amazing?

I don't think I have to worry about an infraction for harassing you. I think replying to someones post is perfectly allowed on here, especially when raising concerns about the content.

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:03 PM
cINmtxgULks

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
15-03-2012, 12:04 PM
the newborn porn thing was a new low for these types of movies and whats worse is the fact that they all try to outdo one another so where will they go next

Roy Mars III
15-03-2012, 12:04 PM
not a fan of A Serbian Film, it's too over the top, that it becomes comical and you end up laughing at half the stuff in the film

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:05 PM
Maybe a little something about newborn porn being amazing?

I don't think I have to worry about an infraction for harassing you. I think replying to someones post is perfectly allowed on here, especially when raising concerns about the content of your post.

i was obviously referring to A Serbian Film which is equally as shocking. If you havn't seen it, i recommend it. It's in the same vein.

Marc
15-03-2012, 12:06 PM
I weep for creativity when **** like this gets commissioned.

You should commission Darkwood :amazed:

Marc
15-03-2012, 12:06 PM
Saw was great
loved the ending 1 and 2...the end of the last one was great too

Yes yes.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 12:09 PM
See point proven, they make sicko films and suddenly there are no boundries, nothing is beyond exploiting for so called 'entertainment'

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:11 PM
See point proven, they make sicko films and suddenly there are no boundries, nothing is beyond exploiting for so called 'entertainment'

Why should movies be held to a higher standard than real life?

As long as HUMANS are sicko's then there will be sick movies. Maybe you should worry about sick humans instead of censoring movies.

Scarlett.
15-03-2012, 12:16 PM
See point proven, they make sicko films and suddenly there are no boundries, nothing is beyond exploiting for so called 'entertainment'

I agree, shock movies are just becoming too....weird

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:18 PM
Kizzy has 1/4 of my post count in just 3 months... that's scary.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 12:20 PM
Why should movies be held to a higher standard than real life?

As long as HUMANS are sicko's then there will be sick movies. Maybe you should worry about sick humans instead of censoring movies.


What are you suggesting? the films are made for sickos? .....by sickos?...what?
My worry is that sickos feed off this stuff and may even inspire some sickos to act on their urges?

lostalex
15-03-2012, 12:22 PM
What are you suggesting? the films are made for sickos? .....by sickos?...what?
My worry is that sickos feed off this stuff and may even inspire some sickos to act on their urges?

umm, no, my suggestion was exactly what i SAID, that you should spend less time worrying about movies, and more time worrying about actual sicko's that kill and rape.

i'm pretty sure that no one was actually killed or raped in the making of these films, so why are you worrying about the films instead of the real thing?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
15-03-2012, 12:33 PM
i dont agree that these films 'inspire' people to do stuff like that at all

thats the same as saying people that play violent video games are likely to go out on a killing spree

like i said though i think a serbian film was a new low and i dont see how they could top that tbh but no doubt somebody will try

having said that i did find some bits of ASF hilarious like when he stuck his erection into that guys eye socket to kill him

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 12:38 PM
What are you suggesting? the films are made for sickos? .....by sickos?...what?
My worry is that sickos feed off this stuff and may even inspire some sickos to act on their urges?

There will always be people that commit atrocious acts, as there have been throughout history. I'm sure jack the ripper wasn't playing "horsecarriage theft auto", before deciding to go on a prostitute killing spree.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 12:48 PM
Kizzy has 1/4 of my post count in just 3 months... that's scary.

Is it why is that then?.....Can noone debate a point without getting personal?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZbiYVkMzCek/SuqFC-d0gMI/AAAAAAAAAvY/nX4FOvQN1Bw/s400/confused.jpg

Mrluvaluva
15-03-2012, 12:56 PM
I haven't watched any of them (tbh just reading the idea of it made me feel sick for days) but from what I heard the second was far worse and much more on the torture porn road than the first, It was even banned in the UK (I think it was unbanned later though after removing some particularly bad scenes

I seem to recall they had to make 40+ cuts to the film in order for it to be released.

Tom4784
15-03-2012, 01:11 PM
The whole idea that a film or a game can influence a person to commit violent acts is just a scare tactic that politicians use to score votes. I personally detest anyone who gives those ideas weight since it turns films/games into a scapegoat. 'It's not Jimmy's fault he stole a car, he saw it on GTA first.' It does nothing but take away responsibility from the wrongdoer.

If someone goes out to commit a violent act, it's their choice to do so. Games and films can't influence or force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 01:11 PM
There will always be people that commit atrocious acts, as there have been throughout history. I'm sure jack the ripper wasn't playing "horsecarriage theft auto", before deciding to go on a prostitute killing spree.

Im aware of that, however its not just my view and im not saying im right but I still feel it could be a contributory factor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2455337/Richard-Lord-Attenborough-blames-film-violence-for-knife-crime.html

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 01:12 PM
I seem to recall they had to make 40+ cuts to the film in order for it to be released.

Wow, was it that many? Surprised they had anything left after that!

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 01:15 PM
Im aware of that, however its not just my view and im not saying im right but I still feel it could be a contributory factor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2455337/Richard-Lord-Attenborough-blames-film-violence-for-knife-crime.html

Yeah I appreciate the point you're just trying to get across, I just happen to disagree with it. History shows us that these people have always existed, and the increased media today just brings it in to the public eye.

For example, I don't personally believe we have more paedophiles now than ever before in history, but if you read/watch the news, then every other person is trying to rape children.

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 01:16 PM
The whole idea that a film or a game can influence a person to commit violent acts is just a scare tactic that politicians use to score votes. I personally detest anyone who gives those ideas weight since it turns films/games into a scapegoat. 'It's not Jimmy's fault he stole a car, he saw it on GTA first.' It does nothing but take away responsibility from the wrongdoer.

If someone goes out to commit a violent act, it's their choice to do so. Games and films can't influence or force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

I think it can be a factor, if the person isolates themselves from the real world and the games or films become almost a reality for them. If that happens with kids/teens, then that is ultimately the parents fault imo

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 01:17 PM
The whole idea that a film or a game can influence a person to commit violent acts is just a scare tactic that politicians use to score votes. I personally detest anyone who gives those ideas weight since it turns films/games into a scapegoat. 'It's not Jimmy's fault he stole a car, he saw it on GTA first.' It does nothing but take away responsibility from the wrongdoer.

If someone goes out to commit a violent act, it's their choice to do so. Games and films can't influence or force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.


You 'personally detest' them do you? thats nice then...

Tom4784
15-03-2012, 01:20 PM
I think it can be a factor, if the person isolates themselves from the real world and the games or films become almost a reality for them. If that happens with kids/teens, then that is ultimately the parents fault imo

If people are going to go out and commit heinous crimes then the potential for them to do so existed within them long before they played Call of Duty.

It's a point I'm not going to budge on, I just think by even entertaining the idea we're vindicating criminals. Blaming games and films is an excellent way of avoiding the problem at hand.

lostalex
15-03-2012, 01:22 PM
Is it why is that then?.....Can noone debate a point without getting personal?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZbiYVkMzCek/SuqFC-d0gMI/AAAAAAAAAvY/nX4FOvQN1Bw/s400/confused.jpg


i'm not getting personal, i;m just saying, it's freaky that you have such a monster post count, when it seems like just yesterday you were introducing yourself to the forum. It's a bit imposing. You certainly have taken the bull by the horns...

Tom4784
15-03-2012, 01:28 PM
You 'personally detest' them do you? thats nice then...

Well done, you've avoided the crux of my post to focus on two words. Excellent work.

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 01:33 PM
If people are going to go out and commit heinous crimes then the potential for them to do so existed within them long before they played Call of Duty.

It's a point I'm not going to budge on, I just think by even entertaining the idea we're vindicating criminals. Blaming games and films is an excellent way of avoiding the problem at hand.

No, I do agree with you, I think certain games or films can give people ideas on how to do some things but I think that these people would have committed crimes anyway.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 01:34 PM
Well done, you've avoided the crux of my post to focus on two words. Excellent work.

Thanks, but if you have already decided to detest anyone who supports that view there did not seem to be any point discussing it.
Im not suggesting for a second that it should be a bleeding heart 'little johnnie was Made to do it by a film' excuse for theft/violence.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 01:40 PM
i'm not getting personal, i;m just saying, it's freaky that you have such a monster post count, when it seems like just yesterday you were introducing yourself to the forum. It's a bit imposing. You certainly have taken the bull by the horns...

Imposing? im not imposing im a pussy cat :) I like to get my point across, it is easy for opinions to be misconstrued so its best to be direct. :spin:

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 01:41 PM
Thanks, but if you have already decided to detest anyone who supports that view there did not seem to be any point discussing it.
Im not suggesting for a second that it should be a bleeding heart 'little johnnie was Made to do it by a film' excuse for theft/violence.

Kizzy, if you offer forthright views (as you do), and you stand by them (which you rightly do), then you have to back them up sometimes, as we all do (trust me, I know).

Maybe you could stop rushing to be continually offended by any criticism, and continue the discussions? This isn't a personal attack, it's advice from someone who also has forthright views and puts them out there.

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 02:00 PM
I do jeebs! i am constantly backing up my views with relevant and reliable information from appropriate sources...What else can i do :(

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 02:06 PM
I do jeebs! i am constantly backing up my views with relevant and reliable information from appropriate sources...What else can i do :(

Well for example, I think Dezzy was simply using a turn of phrase that she didn't mean exactly as it was written down, and you did sort of just reduce her argument down and end all discussion.

*Although, I don't know Dezzy (and have never had a conversation with her), and she may well have meant that she literally "detests" those people, but I somehow doubt it.

* No Dezzys or Kizzys were harmed in the writing of this post.

Vicky.
15-03-2012, 02:08 PM
Never seen any of these. Nor do I plan to.

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 02:11 PM
Well for example, I think Dezzy was simply using a turn of phrase that she didn't mean exactly as it was written down, and you did sort of just reduce her argument down and end all discussion.

*Although, I don't know Dezzy (and have never had a conversation with her), and she may well have meant that she literally "detests" those people, but I somehow doubt it.

* No Dezzys or Kizzys were harmed in the writing of this post.

Dezzy is a he :laugh:

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 02:13 PM
Dezzy is a he :laugh:

Errrrrr, hmmmmmm, yeah, I errrrrrrrr know. Ooooops.

See, that proves my point that I don't know him! :joker:

Vicky.
15-03-2012, 02:19 PM
If people are going to go out and commit heinous crimes then the potential for them to do so existed within them long before they played Call of Duty.

It's a point I'm not going to budge on, I just think by even entertaining the idea we're vindicating criminals. Blaming games and films is an excellent way of avoiding the problem at hand.

I agree 100%

It always seems to be the fault of someone else though whenever something bad happens so if video games etc werent getting the blame it would be something/someone else. Its never the fault of the person actually committing the crime.

Actually I think this was from scream...films dont create murderers, they just make murderers more creative...I do think theres an element of truth to that. Though the people who do things would do it whether they play games/watch films/whatever anyways.

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 02:21 PM
I agree 100%

It always seems to be the fault of someone else though whenever something bad happens so if video games etc werent getting the blame it would be something/someone else. Its never the fault of the person actually committing the crime.

Actually I think this was from scream...films dont create murderers, they just make murderers more creative...I do think theres an element of truth to that. Though the people who do things would do it whether they play games/watch films/whatever anyways.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say earlier but not as clearly :laugh:

Marc
15-03-2012, 02:27 PM
Imagine if Saw happened in real life...

Scarlett.
15-03-2012, 02:35 PM
I don't think films influence people, but there is are lines between decency, shocking material and just down right morally bankrupt material

Niamh.
15-03-2012, 02:38 PM
I don't think films influence people, but there is are lines between decency, shocking material and just down right morally bankrupt material

Yeah, I agree with that too

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 02:41 PM
Why dont you all just shurrup! :D

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 02:48 PM
this is sort of the point i was trying to make...
http://sitemaker.umich.edu/brad.bushman/files/ba09.pdf

Jesus.
15-03-2012, 02:54 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002NV6NU.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

lostalex
15-03-2012, 02:56 PM
Imagine if Saw happened in real life...

it did kinda, some guy in Australia broke into a house and put a bomb collar like from saw around a girls neck. This wasn't that long ago.

Luckily it wasn't a real bomb, but she didn't know that. Imagine the terror.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-collar-bomb-hoax-police-name-australian-suspect-arrested-in-us-20110816-1iv7m.html

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 02:58 PM
it did kinda, some guy in Australia broke into a house and put a bomb collar like from saw around a girls neck. This wasn't that long ago.

Luckily it wasn't a real bomb, but she didn't know that. Imagine the terror.


Hmmmmm....you mean a sicko acted out something from a sick film?

lostalex
15-03-2012, 03:00 PM
Hmmmmm....you mean a sicko acted out something from a sick film?

Not really, because there was another case, before the SAW movies came out in America, where there was a real Bomb Collar put on a Pizza Delivery guy, and the bomb actually went off, and he died. It happened on Live TV too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Douglas_Wells

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 03:00 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002NV6NU.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I agree

Kizzy
15-03-2012, 03:05 PM
Life imitates art more than art imitates life.