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A gunman on a motorbike has opened fire in a Jewish school in Toulouse, France, killing four people including three children.
Police said that one adult and three children, aged three, six and 10, were killed with an adult teacher.
The shooting reportedly occurred at around 8am local time as children waited at a drop-off point near to the Lyceé Ozar Hatorah, which has around 200 students. It is part of a network of 13 institutions which teaches more than 4,000 students across France.
Le Monde said that the dead included a rabbi who taught at the school and his two sons. The French newspaper said the man was a French-Israeli from Jerusalem.
Another rabbi, Rahamim Sabag, told Israeli reporters for Channel 2 that the other victim was the headmaster's daughter.
The city was said to be on "lockdown" as police hunted the killer, who has also been linked to two other recent attacks on soldiers in the region. Safety fences were put up in front of some schools, French media siad.
Toulouse prosecutor Michel Valet said: "He shot at everything he could see, children and adults. Some children were chased into the school."
One witness whose child attends the school described "a vision of horror" in the aftermath of the shooting.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03/19/toulouse-shooting-gunman-france_n_1360967.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cwww.aol.com%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D100 853
Shocking, just sick how some people can do this
Livia
19-03-2012, 11:06 AM
Shocking enough for the serious thread.
Livia
19-03-2012, 11:09 AM
Sometimes I wonder how human beings have made it this far.
Sounds like it was probably politically motivated if hes also attacked soldiers, too soon to speculate as to the specifics though..
Livia
19-03-2012, 11:18 AM
He shot children. ******* his motives.
Eh I'm only speculating, I'm not trying to defend him
Livia
19-03-2012, 11:22 AM
No, I know that MTVN.
I really can't get my head around why so often children are targetted
Livia
19-03-2012, 11:30 AM
It's bad enough when this stuff happens to adults, but when it happens to kids it's just beyond the realms of comprehension.
No, I know that MTVN.
Oh right ok, just didn't want to be misunderstood
Livia
19-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Oh right ok, just didn't want to be misunderstood
I would never think for one moment you would defend someone who kills children to make a point.
Tom4784
19-03-2012, 11:39 AM
Disgusting, I hope he's caught swiftly and made to face the full wrath of the law. Child killers are beyond hope, redemption or mercy.
It's bad enough when this stuff happens to adults, but when it happens to kids it's just beyond the realms of comprehension.
Yes..because they're purposefully targetted..like Norway..not that I understand any killings..but with children it's particularly hard to understand
I would never think for one moment you would defend someone who kills children to make a point.
No I know, I worded myself badly, what I mean is that by speculating about the motive, I didnt mean to take anything away from how shocking a crime this is
The French government said security was being tightened at all religious sites in France, particularly around Jewish schools..I hope there are no more incidents before they catch up with him
Kazanne
19-03-2012, 11:49 AM
Cowardly tosser,targetting little kids,B-----D.
arista
19-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Sometimes I wonder how human beings have made it this far.
Its like Tribes
What we know (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17428860)
Three gun attacks which left seven people dead and two wounded have sparked a security alert in south-western France, with fears that the same killer could be at work.
In each case the attacker is said to have been a gunman on a moped, using a weapon of the same calibre, striking in broad daylight.
All of the attacks took place within a radius of about 50km (30 miles), between the city of Toulouse and town of Montauban.
The first two shootings saw soldiers targeted but the third took place outside a school.
What the victims have in common is that they belong to, or are associated with, ethnic minorities - North African, Caribbean and Jewish.
That they were singled out is suggested by reports that, in at least one attack, the killer pushed aside a bystander to get to his victims.
A manhunt is under way and France has placed its national judicial police in charge of the investigation, with anti-terrorist investigators and specialists in serial crimes at its disposal.
While little has been reported about the identity or motivation of, in the words of Le Figaro newspaper, the "most wanted man in France", some of the strongest clues may have been left by the first attack.
Cyber trail
Investigators believe it is "highly plausible" that the same .45 calibre gun was used in the first two shootings, a judicial source told France's AFP news agency several days before the third.
On Sunday 11 March, Imad Ibn-Ziaten, a 30-year-old staff sergeant in the 1st Airborne Transportation Regiment, was shot dead around 16:00 (15:00 GMT) behind a school in a quiet district of Toulouse.
According to Le Figaro, Sgt Ibn-Ziaten, who was not in uniform, was unwittingly waiting for his own killer.
He had posted a small ad on a website to sell a Suzuki Bandit motorcycle, and the suspected gunman had arranged a meeting to see it.
The sergeant was found shot in the head, his motorcycle beside him.
French cyber police are working to extract clues from the two men's internet exchanges, Le Figaro says.
Sgt Ibn-Ziaten had a clean service record, prosecutors stressed, rejecting suggestions that there could have been some gangland element involved in his murder.
'Tattoo'
In the second attack, in Montauban on Thursday 15 March, 46 surveillance cameras picked up the gunman on his scooter, according to Le Figaro.
They showed "a man in dark clothing wearing a black helmet and riding a powerful moped".
11 March: Off-duty airborne sergeant shot dead in Toulouse while waiting to see man about selling his motorbike
15 March: Two paratroopers shot dead and a third seriously injured while waiting at a cash machine in Montauban
19 March: Three children and a teacher shot dead, and a youth injured, at a Jewish school in Toulouse
Crikey..it sounds like something from a movie script doesn't it...it makes me worry that his 'plan' will continue and something else will happen in the next few days..I hope to god they get him soon
Sometimes I wonder how human beings have made it this far.
Me too, it's a joke how human's can even do this :bored:
I really can't get my head around why so often children are targetted
:shrug: Perhaps, if it is politically influenced, killing children will get more press coverage?/more attention?
To be honest, if you want to kill people whom you don't know then you're already screwed up, if it's a kid, or an adult, I'm sure that wouldn't matter to somebody who might be that screwed up.
Roy Mars III
19-03-2012, 01:21 PM
:shrug: Perhaps, if it is politically influenced, killing children will get more press coverage?/more attention?
Yea. Children are viewed as innocent people. Killing them causes more conflict
Me too, it's a joke how human's can even do this :bored:
:shrug: Perhaps, if it is politically influenced, killing children will get more press coverage?/more attention?
To be honest, if you want to kill people whom you don't know then you're already screwed up, if it's a kid, or an adult, I'm sure that wouldn't matter to somebody who might be that screwed up.
Yes..I hadn't thought of that...sick
Livia
19-03-2012, 01:31 PM
I'll tell you what gets on my tits... the media's rush to Hollywoodise a story like this. I just read that the gunman is described as a "burly lone wolf". Sounds like Steven Seagal on a mission, not a freakin' child murdering scumbag freak.
Shaun
19-03-2012, 02:05 PM
So sad. I'd hope it wasn't racially motivated but that wouldn't make it any more or less heinous.
arista
19-03-2012, 02:15 PM
Crikey..it sounds like something from a movie script doesn't it...it makes me worry that his 'plan' will continue and something else will happen in the next few days..I hope to god they get him soon
French Police Are Armed
so he will be shot dead soon
I would think.
arista
19-03-2012, 02:22 PM
I'll tell you what gets on my tits... the media's rush to Hollywoodise a story like this. I just read that the gunman is described as a "burly lone wolf". Sounds like Steven Seagal on a mission, not a freakin' child murdering scumbag freak.
Yes the Bloated BBC are just that
French Police Are Armed
so he will be shot dead soon
I would think.
..even better..the youngest child was three years old
I hope he doesn't kill anyone else before they do
Livia
19-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Yes the Bloated BBC are just that
It was a newspaper... but I catch your drift.
Livia
19-03-2012, 02:26 PM
..even better..the youngest child was three years old
My littlest niece is 3. How could someone shoot a child like that? What kind of monster do you have to be?
My littlest niece is 3. How could someone shoot a child like that? What kind of monster do you have to be?
I know..and if children were the target merely for 'shock' and attention..well that makes it worse..if anything could make this worse. I don't think it is though..I may be wrong..but the police are investigating a 'serial killer' based on similarities with two other incidents..and they weren't children. In one case, after shooting his victim, he got off his bike, walked over and shot him again 3 times at close range..this man is deranged...and I pray he is stopped because if it is the same person..I doubt this will be the last of his killings
Livia
19-03-2012, 02:41 PM
I looked at the story on Yahoo. Don't know why, was just looking at my emails... read some of the comments on there from people exercising their right to free speech. Made me sick to my stomach.
..and the other victime were a father and two sons...can you imagine what that wife and mother is feeling now
I looked at the story on Yahoo. Don't know why, was just looking at my emails... read some of the comments on there from people exercising their right to free speech. Made me sick to my stomach.
..I had to click off the page..I'm struggling to understand a monster like him..they're not even worth attention
Livia
19-03-2012, 02:49 PM
..and the other victime were a father and two sons...can you imagine what that wife and mother is feeling now
Sadly as far as her husband is concerned, I have an idea. Sadly... I know what the next few months will bring her. But I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to lose your husband and your two children. I don't think I could carry on if I was that woman.
Sadly as far as her husband is concerned, I have an idea. Sadly... I know what the next few months will bring her. But I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to lose your husband and your two children. I don't think I could carry on if I was that woman.
:hug:...to say it won't be easy doesn't even begin...I hope she has a strong family support..and the family of the 3 year old too
Kazanne
19-03-2012, 02:55 PM
My littlest niece is 3. How could someone shoot a child like that? What kind of monster do you have to be?
Livia ,I agree,we have to live amongst these awful monsters,makes you so scared for your kids,child killers are the lowest of the low and should be done away with or locked up forever.hope this pratt is caught soon.
bbfan1991
19-03-2012, 03:28 PM
Terrifying, my condolences to the families of those children/adults who have died and I hope those who are injured make a speedy recovery.
thesheriff443
19-03-2012, 03:47 PM
this is the a terrible thing to happen,but it is happening every day of the week in third world countrys and those at war,
Livia
19-03-2012, 06:34 PM
this is the a terrible thing to happen,but it is happening every day of the week in third world countrys and those at war,
... so that somehow makes it easier to bear? A kind of tit-for-tat? Let the developed countries feel how it feels? That'll be a great comfort to the families of the dead children.
thesheriff443
19-03-2012, 06:53 PM
... so that somehow makes it easier to bear? A kind of tit-for-tat? Let the developed countries feel how it feels? That'll be a great comfort to the families of the dead children.
sorry im far too long in the tooth to get into that crap with you!
im drawing the attention to the fact that this goes on every day in other countries unpunished, the fact that it happened in france brings it to the attention of the world news,
fruit_cake
19-03-2012, 07:02 PM
... so that somehow makes it easier to bear? A kind of tit-for-tat? Let the developed countries feel how it feels? That'll be a great comfort to the families of the dead children.
I don't think that's what Sheriff said at all tbf
Livia
19-03-2012, 07:53 PM
sorry im far too long in the tooth to get into that crap with you!
im drawing the attention to the fact that this goes on every day in other countries unpunished, the fact that it happened in france brings it to the attention of the world news,
Being long in the tooth doesn't necessarily give you a unique view. Most people on here know what goes on in the world, you can see that from the things that are discussed and the way they are discussed. If you don't want to get into "that crap with me" on a discussion thread, fine. I won't reply to any of your posts. Do me the same courtesy.
Le Point are reporting that neo-Nazi former soldiers are thought responsible
http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/exclusif-le-point-une-premiere-piste-dans-l-enquete-de-toulouse-19-03-2012-1442791_23.php
http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=262529
Vicky.
19-03-2012, 09:03 PM
****ing disgusting.
thesheriff443
19-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Being long in the tooth doesn't necessarily give you a unique view. Most people on here know what goes on in the world, you can see that from the things that are discussed and the way they are discussed. If you don't want to get into "that crap with me" on a discussion thread, fine. I won't reply to any of your posts. Do me the same courtesy.
sorry, it dont work like that!
its not what i wrote, its what you read,
nothing that you wrote had anything to do with what i wrote!
your post made me out to be some heartless twat,
The sick creep 'filmed' his killings....
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03/20/toulouse-shooting-gunman-victim-details_n_1366318.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D101013
arista
20-03-2012, 11:11 AM
Yes they just said he had a Camera
on SkyNewsHD
Someone must be keeping him hidden
Niamh.
20-03-2012, 11:14 AM
Disgusting, I hope he's caught swiftly and made to face the full wrath of the law. Child killers are beyond hope, redemption or mercy.
Indeed.
arista
20-03-2012, 05:10 PM
SkyNewsHD
just said his black Yamaha motor bike - scooter
is the same as Police use.
..Earlier on they said that the three incidents have been four days apart each time...meaning there could be another on Friday
arista
20-03-2012, 06:43 PM
..Earlier on they said that the three incidents have been four days apart each time...meaning there could be another on Friday
Crazy Nazi will be Shot Dead soon
i think.
And any that know the place of this soon to be dead nazi is
should get Life or if they run - Kill them as well.
This is not like that other Real Evil Neo Nazi
in north europe,
The French do not need to ask if his mother was hard on him
the President has given orders to Shoot him dead
as his Election is getting buggered by this nazi.
Capt Remy
please post.
Kizzy
20-03-2012, 06:47 PM
It seems the far right are behaving more and more extreme, first Anders Breivik and now this.
To target children is sickening.
French police have launched a dawn raid on suspects, 2 policeman apparently injured in a shoot-out
Edit - 24 year old reported to be holed up http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17446999
Looks like it might not be a right wing extremist, AFP are reporting the suspects are from Afghanistan and Pakistan and are Al Qaeda
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16192930
...I hope they've got him..I can't find any further updates
This site is giving live updates, it's Spanish but your browser should translate it, Google Chrome does anyway http://eskup.elpais.com/*ultima_hora
They just heard six or seven shots in the place where the police surrounding the suspect in the massacre in France, according to AFP
9 minutes ago
The intelligence agencies now agree and clarify the news: the suspect would not be stopped, but cornered by agents. According to AFP the security services are fairly certain that the man around the agents is the murderer.
4 minutes ago
Think that last one's a bit of a dodgy translation
Edit
French Interior Minister today announced that the suspect, who is surrounded, is a Frenchman of Algerian origin 24 years and added that his brother has been arrested, reports @ miguelmora
...so it looks as though they may have him then?
arista
21-03-2012, 07:47 AM
...so it looks as though they may have him then?
Yes and the Evil Terror Man
is now saying he will come out of there this afternoon?
Now the Police should go in fast now
he can be sending messages to other terror men.
Get in there and shoot him dead.
There is a French Election soon
this matters.
lostalex
21-03-2012, 09:15 AM
Looks like it might not be a right wing extremist, AFP are reporting the suspects are from Afghanistan and Pakistan and are Al Qaeda
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16192930
i think it's funny anyone was entertaining the idea that it was a white supremesist to begin with. It had every tell tale sign from the beginning that it was a muslim.
But the press is so PC now that they will pretend for as long as they can that it's not a Muslim.
Certain elements of the press are so pathetically left wing, that they will exhaust every other posibility before they accuse any Muslim.
HMM, an attack on NATO Soldiers, and Jewish children, why weren't they assuming MUSLIM from the beginning, that is the OBVIOUS suspect.
GET REAL. wtf is wrong with the world when you can't call a spade a spade.
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 10:12 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9157126/Toulouse-siege-live.html
arista
21-03-2012, 10:25 AM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02173/toulouse-police-2_2173405c.jpg
Get in there
and kill the Evil Punk
Iceman
21-03-2012, 10:58 AM
Surely the longer the police take to get into the house the less chance of him coming out alive? I know it's a tricky situation and they have to think of their own health but I just get the feeling he wont be coming out alive...
..Are there other people in the house..innocent people?
Iceman
21-03-2012, 11:29 AM
..Are there other people in the house..innocent people?
I dont think so, I had been using Sky News to watch and get updates but it's changed to PM's Question time and the the Budget.
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 11:34 AM
I posted a link to live streaming iceman.
Iceman
21-03-2012, 11:37 AM
I posted a link to live streaming iceman.
I have no speakers at the minute :( if something happens can you post though.
I really do hope they get him, it has aspects of the Raul Moat saga I just hope it doesn't end like that.
Iceman
21-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Oh its a live update thing, thanks Kizzy I'll leave that opened :thumbs:
...so this is the guy who slaughters children..apparantly he intended to post the killings on the internet
Mohammed Merah, the man believed to be the gunman on a scooter who killed seven people in south-western France, is a 23-year-old French citizen of Algerian extraction.
Before the shootings in Toulouse and Montauban, he was known to the French authorities because he had a criminal record for non-terrorist crimes.
But he was also brought to French attention because of visits he made to Pakistan and Afghanistan, where he reportedly escaped from prison while serving a sentence for carrying bomb-making equipment
..more profile: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17456541
fruit_cake
21-03-2012, 12:02 PM
good to hear they have him now
good to hear they have him now
..I don't think they have..there may still be some dead police officers yet
..If he does open fire..I hope it's on himself
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 12:06 PM
They dont have him yet, he is holed up at home and wont come out.
fruit_cake
21-03-2012, 12:07 PM
oh right, tricky situation for the police then
Iceman
21-03-2012, 12:09 PM
Looks like he's planning posting the murders on the net too :bored:
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 12:14 PM
http://www.eitb.com/fr/infos/societe/detail/854031/fusillades-operation-policiere-toulouse/
fruit_cake
21-03-2012, 12:21 PM
what a sicko
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 12:24 PM
It has been reported that he had been radicalised by extreme islamist fundamentalists, similar to the 7/7 bombers in 2005.
It is frightening how suggestible young men from normal family backgrounds can be identified by these groups and influenced to such a degree.
fruit_cake
21-03-2012, 12:26 PM
It has been reported that he had been radicalised by extreme islamist fundamentalists, similar to the 7/7 bombers in 2005.
It is frightening how suggestible young men from normal family backgrounds can be identified by these groups and influenced to such a degree.
It never seems to be the ring leaders who do the crimes it always seems to be the impressionable idiots!
i think it's funny anyone was entertaining the idea that it was a white supremesist to begin with. It had every tell tale sign from the beginning that it was a muslim.
But the press is so PC now that they will pretend for as long as they can that it's not a Muslim.
Certain elements of the press are so pathetically left wing, that they will exhaust every other posibility before they accuse any Muslim.
HMM, an attack on NATO Soldiers, and Jewish children, why weren't they assuming MUSLIM from the beginning, that is the OBVIOUS suspect.
GET REAL. wtf is wrong with the world when you can't call a spade a spade.
Not at all, the soldiers were all of ethnic origin and were deliberately targeted for being so. Plus there were 3 French soldiers recently dismissed for being part of Neo Nazi organisations, one of them had a tattoo on his face similar to one a witness reported the gunman as having
So no, not stupid at all
arista
21-03-2012, 12:29 PM
Live on EuroNews now
Police detain the Evil Punk
Also Live on SkyNews now
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 12:32 PM
Calm down arista its not an episode of the A-team....:)
arista
21-03-2012, 12:39 PM
Calm down arista its not an episode of the A-team....:)
He should be Shot dead
maybe he will be, later on.
He should be Shot dead
maybe he will be, later on.
..do you not want him brought to justice properly Arista
Livia
21-03-2012, 12:51 PM
I'd rather see him dead, to be honest.
Vicky.
21-03-2012, 12:54 PM
..do you not want him brought to justice properly Arista
What? Slung in jail for a few years or something? I dont call that justice for killing kids tbh
Iceman
21-03-2012, 12:57 PM
In some ways I'd rather him dead because he's a despicable creature. In others I wouldn't because I dont think that a few days on the run is justice for what he's done.
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 12:58 PM
Somehow im guessing jail would not be such an easy ride for this guy....
arista
21-03-2012, 01:10 PM
..do you not want him brought to justice properly Arista
No as Other Terror Punks
will be Inspired by this one.
He went out of his way to Kill Jewish Children
he should now be Shot dead
Somehow im guessing jail would not be such an easy ride for this guy....
..me too....and I don't think it will be just for a few years
somehow I think death is nothing to these people..even their own deaths...it seem too easy
Livia
21-03-2012, 01:20 PM
If they were sending him to prison to be punished, I'd be all for it. But they won't. He'll have access to books, the Internet, TV, education... already there are people out there worrying about his rights.
Vicky.
21-03-2012, 01:20 PM
But if he gets jail time, yeah it might be hell for him for a while, but eventually he will (most likely) be released and able to live his life again. Probably with police protection/new identity/etc which is more cost to the public too. So he can live his life after taking the lives of innocents...doesnt seem fair to me.
i would be all for jail if life meant life, but sadly it doesnt.
fruit_cake
21-03-2012, 01:24 PM
..me too....and I don't think it will be just for a few years
somehow I think death is nothing to these people..even their own deaths...it seem too easy
that's an interesting perspective, it seems to me that fits with them too because people like this apparently only know how to destroy things, to gain attention the easy way.
If they were sending him to prison to be punished, I'd be all for it. But they won't. He'll have access to books, the Internet, TV, education... already there are people out there worrying about his rights.
....that's the bit I'm hoping for..I don't know how French prisons compare to ours...I might research it...but I was hoping they are much worse and that there wouldn't be access to any of the above and that spending his life in there would be far worse than a quick bullet
bbfan1991
21-03-2012, 03:14 PM
The poor victims:(, the psycho guy won't care with his links to terror organisations etc as it was revenge for other stuff that happened.
Prison should be a punishment for him but he won't care and I reckon since he is barricaded in a building either he will kill himself or the Police will finally gain entry and shoot him dead.
Iceman
21-03-2012, 03:18 PM
The prosecutor said the suspect says he plans to surrender 'late this evening'.
by katharine.higgins 3:57 PM
:idc: I thought it was this afternoon
...15 minutes ago
16.06 Francois Molins added that several assaults were attempted on the Toulouse gunman's flat but officers were fired upon each time. He said two police were wounded by Mohamed Merah, one in the knee and another when a bullet hit his flak jacket.
arista
21-03-2012, 04:26 PM
...15 minutes ago
16.06 Francois Molins added that several assaults were attempted on the Toulouse gunman's flat but officers were fired upon each time. He said two police were wounded by Mohamed Merah, one in the knee and another when a bullet hit his flak jacket.
Yes more reason to Kill him
arista
21-03-2012, 04:31 PM
SkyNewsHD
has confirmed he still sending out messages.
Why are the not gassing him out?
Iceman
21-03-2012, 04:33 PM
SkyNewsHD
has confirmed he still sending out messages.
Why are the not gassing him out?
Was just thinking that myself.
arista
21-03-2012, 04:34 PM
So easy Fire in gas
he will be knocked out or come out.
They enter with masks on.
...I don't think this will still be going on tomorrow..whatever they have planned, hopefully it will be tonight
Vicky.
21-03-2012, 04:39 PM
Was just thinking that myself.
Probably against his human rights, or some bollocks like that
Jesus.
21-03-2012, 04:45 PM
Maybe they are more worried about the potential for him to have a lot of explosives in there,that he could detonate at any moment if he chose to do so, in order to take some cops with him into martyrdom.
arista
21-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Probably against his human rights, or some bollocks like that
No it is not
he has fired from that home at police.
Its Legal to Fire in Gas now
arista
21-03-2012, 04:50 PM
Maybe they are more worried about the potential for him to have a lot of explosives in there,that he could detonate at any moment if he chose to do so, in order to take some cops with him into martyrdom.
Yes
so clear the area well back
Fire in the Gas in big amounts,
If he Goes up in his own Bombs
its his own Evil Plan.
Iceman
21-03-2012, 05:27 PM
Maybe they are more worried about the potential for him to have a lot of explosives in there,that he could detonate at any moment if he chose to do so, in order to take some cops with him into martyrdom.
Yeah I do suppose there's a lot of aspects they'd need to consider before they went barging in. Just seems that they'd have thought of something by now...
...I wonder if they've switched off the lighting..they would have night vision I presume...maybe they're at stalemate if they suspect he has explosives...that's why they're trying to negotiate
Jesus.
21-03-2012, 05:33 PM
Yeah I do suppose there's a lot of aspects they'd need to consider before they went barging in. Just seems that they'd have thought of something by now...
We're all just speculating, as none of us know what the hell id going on anyway. I'd hope they have plans A, B & C lined up regardless. With things like this, you normally have a massive stand off for a while, then all of a sudden it'll kick off for a few minutes, then it will all thankfully be over.
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 05:36 PM
I thought he was arrested at 1.30 pm?
16.15 Mohammed Merah has now said he will give himself up late this evening. Francois Molins, France's top anti-terror magistrate who is overseeing the probe into the killing of three soldiers, said:
He had said he wanted to give himself up in the afternoon or evening, now it's in the late evening
arista
21-03-2012, 10:04 PM
At last
the Special police are going in.
They have Cut the Power
Iceman
21-03-2012, 10:10 PM
23.05 AFP is suggesting that the first explosion may have been the police breaching the apartment while the other two may have been stun grenades hurled into the room. It's been about 20 minutes since the explosions and no reports of gunfire since then.
23.00 No fresh explosions or bangs reported. Not clear whether Merah is attempting to repulse the RAID officers or if he may agree to go peacefully. Police said he earlier that he didn't appear prepared to die for the cause but rather wanted to be a living symbol.
22.55 This siege began at 3am local time. Just under 21 hours later the police have given up on negotiations and are storming the building.
arista
21-03-2012, 10:15 PM
I hope he is Dead
Iceman
21-03-2012, 10:17 PM
So I wonder is he Alive or Dead?
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 10:18 PM
does it matter?...
arista
21-03-2012, 10:19 PM
does it matter?...
Yes
he must be killed
Iceman
21-03-2012, 10:19 PM
does it matter?...
suppose not really but if they could get info out of him it might
The explosions were to apparently intimidate the and the assault has not yet started
GypsyGoth
21-03-2012, 10:40 PM
That killer guy has noting toulouse.
Iceman
21-03-2012, 10:42 PM
That killer guy has noting toulouse.
:shocked::joker:
Kizzy
21-03-2012, 10:48 PM
Yes
he must be killed
Arista..you make me laugh you know, you get so irate about some things and then the next you are obsessing over 'come dine with me'.....
Iceman
21-03-2012, 11:12 PM
2350: Le Monde's Soren Seelow tweets that things have returned to calm, and that some sources suggest negotiations between the suspect and the police have resumed.
French police have reportedly stormed the house of Mohammed Merah, the suspect in a series of shootings in the south-west region of France, which left seven people dead.
Three explosions were heard close to the block of flats where the man has been holed up for more than 20 hours. The blasts reportedly blew out the doors at the front of the apartment.
However, a conflicting report from the French Interior Ministry said that the explosions were simply an "intimidation tactic" and that an assault is not underway.
The man is believed to still be inside the building.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03/21/toulouse-shootings-assault-underway-mohammed-merah_n_1371341.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D101342#
BBC News...unconfirmed reports that he's dead
King Gizzard
22-03-2012, 06:17 AM
That killer guy has noting toulouse.
amazing
King Gizzard
22-03-2012, 06:24 AM
(disclaimer: not what's happened, that is tragic)
arista
22-03-2012, 10:29 AM
Yes the Evil Killer is Now Dead
arista
22-03-2012, 10:31 AM
Arista..you make me laugh you know, you get so irate about some things and then the next you are obsessing over 'come dine with me'.....
Spiffing
Livia
22-03-2012, 10:35 AM
Yes the Evil Killer is Now Dead
Doctors describe his condition as "satisfactory".
arista
22-03-2012, 11:23 AM
Yes he Jumped out of a Window
shooting.
Sarkozy got his wish
he is now dead.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/22/article-2118052-12480E2B000005DC-399_634x373.jpg
The Killer while racing a car, some time ago.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/22/article-2118052-124918E0000005DC-756_634x393.jpg
Well Done Police.
Shaun
22-03-2012, 12:47 PM
can't say I care he's died. Sickening man.
arista
22-03-2012, 12:52 PM
can't say I care he's died. Sickening man.
570's IP names
lots to go through
Live On News now
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/21/article-2118052-1241AB21000005DC-753_634x495.jpg
Rabbi Jonathan Sandler, his sons Arieh, 5,
and Gabriel, 4, were gunned down on Monday.
Miriam Monsonego, daughter of the school's headteacher, was also killed
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118052/Toulouse-shooting-First-picture-Al-Qaeda-fanatic-Mohammed-Merah-suspected-killing-7.html#ixzz1pr0Yu0O8
Livia
22-03-2012, 01:55 PM
Those beautiful little kids. Zichronam lebracha - bless their memory.
Niamh.
22-03-2012, 02:00 PM
I feel sorry for his poor wife having to cope with losing 2 of her kids and her husband, I hope she can make it through for the sake of her baby.
King Gizzard
22-03-2012, 05:54 PM
Words fail me
http://i.imgur.com/FGjIY.jpg
Fake I think, just edited this pic
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/06/article-1394865-0C6F6DFE00000578-222_634x286.jpg
King Gizzard
22-03-2012, 05:59 PM
:suspect: bit of a random thing to fake
Well the original pic was also a cock up, they used a photo of a comedian impersonating Sarah Palin for a serious story about her :laugh: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394865/Fox-News-uses-photo-Tina-Fey-playing-Sarah-Palin-story-Sarah-Palin.html
Toulouse Shootings:....City square evacuated after suspect package found.........
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/03/23/toulouse-shooting-city-square-evacuated_n_1375909.html
...what is interesting is the comments at the bottom by Rabbi Arthur...wise man.....whatever atrocities happen..if we were all to react with rage...we're all basically ****ed anyway
fruit_cake
24-03-2012, 08:15 AM
Words fail me
http://i.imgur.com/FGjIY.jpg
Toolooz is in Bulgaria or somewhere around there on the map, I shouldn't laugh but I can't help it :laugh:.
a bit of topic but when the American's invaded Grenada in 1983 on American news it was reported that America has invaded 'Granada'. It soon spread to the Spanish news and the people in the Spanish city of Granada that day must have been quite surprised to find out they were being invaded!
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