View Full Version : Justice for Trayvon
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
22-03-2012, 06:54 PM
I don't know if you guys have already talked about this.
But I just heard the 911 call. You can hear Trayvon shouting for help before you hear gun shots.
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Absolutely broke my heart and I shed tears. So devastating to hear that. I swear to god if anything like this ever happened to anyone I loved and I actually heard such an audio tape, I would actually kill that person myself and rue the consequences later. Heartbreaking.
If you haven't heard the story just google Trayvon Martin and the story and clips are all over it.
The Murderer claims it was self defence. He followed the little boy because he looked "suspicious"
R.I.P little man
Brother Leon
22-03-2012, 11:50 PM
This is horrible...just horrible.
R.I.P
Vicky.
22-03-2012, 11:55 PM
Didnt know anything about this story, will have a look about tomorrow too late and to tired right now
After listening to the video, how horrid. Its one of those things you wish you could unhear actually :S
RIP Trayvon
Kizzy
23-03-2012, 12:01 AM
same too tired to take it in now....not listening to the vid though, i don think i could handle it
That emergency services lady didn't exactly handle the matter with much urgency did she
Mrluvaluva
23-03-2012, 01:45 AM
I have read some about this and seen it on the news. There seem to be two different angles on the story, depending on which reports you read. Some focus on the question of would this have happened if he was not "young, black and wearing a hoodie". Others around the gun laws. Apparently Florida has a law known as "stand your ground", which allows the use of deadly force if someone believes they are in danger of imminent death or great bodily harm. I also believe no state permit is required to possess or purchase a rifle, shotgun or handgun. It has been said, "this is not about a black and white thing, it's about a right and wrong thing." It seems to be about both to me. Either way, it's very sad.
I just read that Bill Lee is stepping down as Chief of police in Sanford. Not sure if this is a temporary measure or whether he will resign?
swinearefine
23-03-2012, 02:49 AM
The Stand Your Ground law is absolutely asinine.
Since the Stand Your Ground law took effect in Florida, the number of killings found to be justifiable homicide has jumped there. The annual number of such cases has gone from 13 a year on average before 2005 to an average of 36 a year after the law took effect.
Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0322/Will-Trayvon-Martin-case-spur-rethinking-of-Stand-Your-Ground-laws-video
arista
23-03-2012, 07:20 AM
Yes he is a dodgy officer
contacts head office, alot,
then shoots them.
As if his call is his back up story.
Ref: FoxNews Report.
lostalex
23-03-2012, 09:50 AM
That emergency services lady didn't exactly handle the matter with much urgency did she
They are trained to remain calm and not alarm epople. The 911 lady handled herself perfectly.
I'm more disgusted with the Prosecutors not bringing charges against this guy than anyone else. It's the LAYWERS and the COPS in this case which have messed up.
Florida Laws are messed up, and the cops there that didn't arrest this guy right away.
It's interesting comparing it to the cases in the UK where people are arrested for killing legitamate criminals in self-defense,. and they are arrested for defending themselves, this case is like the exact opposite.
It's interesting how our countries have the same miscarriages of justice, but on different ends of the spectrum.
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 09:52 AM
Oh I read about this on another forum. It's awful, I really hope that guy gets brought to justice, I've heard they've not even charged him yet though.
lostalex
23-03-2012, 09:54 AM
Oh I read about this on another forum. It's awful, I really hope that guy gets brought to justice, I've heard they've not even charged him yet though.
There's no way this is going away with all the media attention, they will have to do something soon, otherwise they are looking at an LA riots pt.2
Roy Mars III
23-03-2012, 09:59 AM
very sad.
they'll charge the guy, like lostalex said, if only to stop something like the LA riots happening again
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 10:02 AM
There's no way this is going away with all the media attention, they will have to do something soon, otherwise they are looking at an LA riots pt.2
I hope so, It's beyond belief he's not been charged yet tbh
I didn't know anything about this story
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 10:58 AM
I didn't know anything about this story
Three weeks ago in Sanford, Florida, a neighbourhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, shot dead an unarmed black teen, Trayvon Martin, as he walked home from the store. Zimmerman, who is Latino, called the emergency services because he thought Martin, 17, looked "suspicious" and then, against the advice of the dispatcher, followed him. The two men fought. Martin died. Zimmerman emerged, bleeding from the nose and the back of his head, claiming he shot Martin in self-defence because he was in fear of his life.
Zimmerman was neither charged nor arrested. Under Florida's "stand your ground" statute, deadly force is permitted if the person "reasonably believes" it is necessary to protect their own life, the life of another or to prevent a forcible felony. Zimmerman weighs 250lbs and had a 9mm handgun; Martin weighed 140lbs and had a packet of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Being a young black male, it seems, is reason enough.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/mar/21/trayvon-martin-killing-too-far
Lord :bored: the world is disgusting.
I might just stay indoors for the rest of my life
Lord :bored: the world is disgusting.
I might just stay indoors for the rest of my life
lostalex
23-03-2012, 11:03 AM
One thing i do take issue with is the media describing the attacker guy as "white" he doesn't look "white" to me. He is clearly hispanic.
i know it sounds petty to mention, but the media did try to make it a quote "white" and "black" thing, but clearly this guy is not white. And as soon as they realized he wasn't white, we never heard anything more about the guys race, i wonder why that is? Why arn't they now making it a "hispanic" and "black" thing now?? I found that very disturbing. Why were so they so willing to talk about the race issue when they thought he was white, but then when they saw the shooter was hispanic, they arn't discussing HISPANIC racism against blacks?? especially considering historically the vast majority of slavery occurred in HISPANIC countries. So you can't say that there isn't a a historical context there.
I found that very disturbing about the American Media, that they will only talk about racism where it's a white aggressor, but to talk about racism when it's a non-white aggressor? then they don't talk about race anymore.
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 11:06 AM
One thing i do take issue with is the media describing the attacker guy as "white" he doesn't look "white" to me. He is clearly hispanic.
i know it sounds petty to mention, but the media did try to make it a quote "white" and "black" thing, but clearly this guy is not white. And as soon as they realized he wasn't white, we never heard anything more about the guys race, i wonder why that is? Why arn't they now making it a "hispanic" and "black" thing now?? I found that very disturbing.
It does actually state that he's latino in the article I posted
lostalex
23-03-2012, 11:12 AM
It does actually state that he's latino in the article I posted
i've been followng the story since it first happened though, and at first they were describing him as "white" on CNN and all major news sources. And all of the commentary was about this "white" guy profiling a black teen. Since then they havn't been focusing so much on his race. They don't point out that the accussed is hispanic, instead they are just talking about racism against blacks in general. So why arn't they targeting HISPANIC racism against blacks?
There is definitely an intentional anti-white narrative in the US media.
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 11:16 AM
i've been followng the story since it first happened though, and at first they were describing him as "white" on CNN and all major news sources. And all of the commentary was about this "white" guy profiling a black teen. Since then they havn't been focusing so much on his race. They don't point out that the accussed is hispanic, instead they are just talking about racism against blacks in general. So why arn't they targeting HISPANIC racism against blacks?
Well, admittedly I haven't been following the case, I only heard about it recently, I take your point but I don't think it should detract from the point that this poor kid was gunned down simply because he was black and someone thought he was suspicious because of that.
BBfanUSA
23-03-2012, 11:25 AM
This thing is all over the news. In New York there was a million hoodie march. I don't understand why we have racism today. If it was a black man shooting a white kid I bet the media wouldnt give a damn unfortunately. Or hardly at least
Roy Mars III
23-03-2012, 11:30 AM
This thing is all over the news. In New York there was a million hoodie march. I don't understand why we have racism today. If it was a black man shooting a white kid I bet the media wouldnt give a damn unfortunately. Or hardly at least
they wouldn't care if it was black on black either. they only care if a story can get viewers/sell papers. This one can, so they cover it like they are
Brother Leon
23-03-2012, 11:37 AM
they wouldn't care if it was black on black either. they only care if a story can get viewers/sell papers. This one can, so they cover it like they are
Truer words were never spoken.
lostalex
23-03-2012, 11:54 AM
It's cause the black kid was incredibly cute, unlike most black teens who often look much older than they are, this black teen looked like he could be in a saturday morning cereal commercial, and the guy that killed him looks like a monster.
It really is the press that decides what cases get attention. How many other murders have happened this week?
this is a particularly outrageous one though, and i'm glad it's getting attention. Florida's laws are insane, and they need to change. i'm glad the FBi is getting involved.
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 11:56 AM
It's cause the black kid was incredibly cute, unlike most black teens who often look much older than they are, this black teen looked like he could be in a saturday morning cereal commercial, and the guy that killed him looks like a monster.
It really is the press that decides what cases get attention. How many other murders have happened this week?
this is a particularly outrageous one though, and i'm glad it's getting attention. Florida's laws are insane, and they need to change. i'm glad the FBi is getting involved.
Yeah, I do hope his family get some justice not that it will make up for the loss of their child.
lostalex
23-03-2012, 12:15 PM
Yeah, I do hope his family get some justice not that it will make up for the loss of their child.
seriously. considering all the people in jail for MUCH MUCH less, it really is an OUTRAGE that this Zimmerman guy is not in jail right now.
there are people in jail in florida for smoking weed, but this guy that KILLED a 17 y/o is free right now? It's unbelievable. The American people won't stand for it. The American people have already stood up, and if the Florida officials don't stand up and do the right thing there will be a riot.
It's gonna get messy if they don't do the right thing.
Livia
23-03-2012, 12:24 PM
I guess that's what happens when you have archaic gun laws that date back to the Wild West, that allow people like Zimmerman to set himself up as an armed vigilante. It's astounding that considering the amount of previous reports he made to the police, and the fact that he's well known to them and frankly a bit of a flaky character, they allow him to possess a gun. And even more astonishing that when he kills someone, he's allowed to walk free! It's insane.
What a sad waste of a young life.
lostalex
23-03-2012, 12:26 PM
I guess that's what happens when you have archaic gun laws that date back to the Wild West, that allow people like Zimmerman to set himself up as an armed vigilante. It's astounding that considering the amount of previous reports he made to the police, and the fact that he's well known to them and frankly a bit of a flaky character, they allow him to possess a gun. And then when he kills someone, then walk free! It's insane.
What a sad waste of a young life.
has nothing to do with gun laws. It has to do with not MURDERING people laws.
Jesus.
23-03-2012, 12:31 PM
The crazy thing about this Zimmerman character, is he has a previous record for attacking the police, but made a bargain plea that enabled him to be able to retain his concealed firearm license.
The NRA is the most powerful lobby in American politics. The 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) was from a time when people were worried about government tyranny. That amendment is completely outdated these days.
If the government wanted to kill every single citizen in the country, they could do it with drones whilst the preside flies around in AF1.
The American constitution is an amazing document, but it needs to be updated.
Roy Mars III
23-03-2012, 12:33 PM
The crazy thing about this Zimmerman character, is he has a previous record for attacking the police, but made a bargain plea that enabled him to be able to retain his concealed firearm license.
The NRA is the most powerful lobby in American politics. The 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) was from a time when people were worried about government tyranny. That amendment is completely outdated these days.
If the government wanted to kill every single citizen in the country, they could do it with drones whilst the preside flies around in AF1.
The American constitution is an amazing document, but it needs to be updated.
agree, won't happen anytime soon though
Niamh.
23-03-2012, 01:46 PM
I'm going to close this for a minute as it's gone way off topic, I'll move those posts to another thread in case you want to continue the discussion
Moved here :
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198590
ILoveTRW
23-03-2012, 02:43 PM
"You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." - Barack Obama
Jesus.
23-03-2012, 03:04 PM
"You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." - Barack Obama
That will probably earn Zimmerman a free pass from the American right who despise Obama.
Fux Noise won't let that comment pass without criticising him for days on end.
arista
23-03-2012, 06:08 PM
This is Boiling Up in America Now
The President has spoken on this.
On Ch4News now
Jesus.
23-03-2012, 06:15 PM
That will probably earn Zimmerman a free pass from the American right who despise Obama.
Fux Noise won't let that comment pass without criticising him for days on end.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/23/santorum-told-to-pretend-its-obama-at-shooting-range/
As if to prove my point.
Jesus.
23-03-2012, 06:48 PM
Fox news doing what fox news does.
RTMyb15bfAE
Mrluvaluva
29-03-2012, 10:06 AM
CCTV footage of the neighbourhood watch volunteer who shot Trayvon Martin dead in Florida appears to cast doubt on his claim he was badly beaten in a scuffle with the unarmed 17-year-old.
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The video shows George Zimmerman climbing handcuffed out of a police car and speaking to officers after he killed the teenager in a gated community outside Orlando on February 26.
Mr Zimmerman has previously claimed he suffered a broken, bloody nose and a head wound after his head was slammed aginst the pavement by the teen.
A lawyer for Trayvon's parents, Benjamin Crump, said: "This certainly doesn't look like a man who told police only an hour or so earlier he suffered a broken nose and had his head repeatedly smashed into the sidewalk.
"It only bolsters our claim that George Zimmerman was not beaten to the point that he feared for his life, as he had indicated.
"This armed vigilante needs to be arrested immediately for the murder of Trayvon Martin."
Mr Zimmerman has claimed he shot Trayvon in self-defence after being attacked. Some witnesses have backed him up but othershave contested his version of events.
Although he was taken into police custody that night, he was never formally arrested and has not been charged with any crime.
Friends have said that Mr Zimmerman cried for days over the shooting.
Speaking on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight, the teenager's mother, Sybrina Fulton said: "If I had killed an individual, I'd be crying too. I believe George Zimmerman hunted my son like an animal."
more (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16198475)
Kizzy
29-03-2012, 10:32 AM
That CCTV footage proves he has alredy lied to police, as he is quite obviously not injured in the slightest.
It was a prejudice driven attack based on stereotypical views of a vigilante.
Well done Bobby Rush for his stand on this.
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16198368
This story is sad to follow, Zimmerman shouldn't be allowed to get away with this.
Kizzy
29-03-2012, 11:22 AM
I read that that The black panther party had offered a $10'000 bounty on zimmerman?
arista
11-04-2012, 06:44 PM
Zimmerman
is on the run.
He has not taken calls from his own Lawyer
His Lawyer on Ch4News , now, has said
he no longer can help him.
NBCNews has reported at 11PM our time
he will be charged, of course thats if they can find him.
Ref: SkyNewsHD and Ch4News.
Mrluvaluva
11-04-2012, 06:44 PM
A prosecutor is to announce that George Zimmerman will be charged over the death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, according to the Washington Post.
The newspaper cited a law enforcement official close to the investigation as saying that Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey will make the announcement.
However, the paper did not say what charges would be brought against Mr Zimmerman.
Mr Zimmerman, a neighbourhood watch volunteer, shot the unarmed 17-year-old in a gated community on February 26.
He said acted in self-defence and has so far not been charged with any crime.
Soon after the shooting in the Florida district of Sanford, Mr Zimmerman went into hiding.
Sky's US correspondent Dominic Waghorn said the newspaper claim was a "surprise development".
"This is interesting because Mr Zimmerman's legal team had a hiatus yesterday," he said.
"The legal team said they had lost contact with Mr Zimmerman and were therefore not going to represent him any further."
More to follow...
Sky (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16206858)
It will be interesting to see what charge is brought against him.
http://www.channel4.com/news/trayvon-martin-case-in-limbo-amid-more-tension-over-race
The latest twist in the Martin case came at a hastily called press conference in Sanford, Florida, where Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig revealed they had not been in contact with their erstwhile client for days, and had no idea where he was.
"I know his phone works", Sonner said, "He won't return my phone calls. He won't return my texts. He won't even give me a collect call." And they said Zimmerman had been taking actions in relation to the case without their knowledge, contacting the state special prosecutor's office on Tuesday, and speaking to Sean Hannity of Fox News, without seeking their advice first.
C4 TV news are reporting that charges against Zimmerman are being prepared.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17684422
A Florida prosecutor is to bring charges against a neighbourhood watchman who shot an unarmed black teenager, US media report.
Angela Corey's decision is reportedly to be announced at 18:00 (22:00 GMT) in Jacksonville, Florida.
Kizzy
11-04-2012, 07:24 PM
About time.
arista
11-04-2012, 10:09 PM
He has been Charged with Murder
Mrluvaluva
11-04-2012, 10:14 PM
First or second degree?
Iceman
11-04-2012, 10:16 PM
Second
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-17684429
A Florida neighbourhood watchman has been charged with second degree murder over the shooting of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman turned himself in on Wednesday, a special prosecutor said.
The decision to bring charges against Mr Zimmerman was taken by prosecutor Angela Corey, after she decided not to seek a grand jury review of the case.
Announcing the charge, Ms Corey said that no bail had yet been set for Mr Zimmerman.
Liberty4eva
12-04-2012, 02:40 PM
I think they're making a mistake charging Zimmerman with murder. Like Casey Anthony, they're doing this because of the public pressure. But Zimmerman can claim he acted in self-defense and the prosecution will have to prove that Zimmerman intentionally murdered him when there was no need for him to do so.
Liberty4eva
12-04-2012, 02:50 PM
The crazy thing about this Zimmerman character, is he has a previous record for attacking the police, but made a bargain plea that enabled him to be able to retain his concealed firearm license.
The NRA is the most powerful lobby in American politics. The 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) was from a time when people were worried about government tyranny. That amendment is completely outdated these days.
If the government wanted to kill every single citizen in the country, they could do it with drones whilst the preside flies around in AF1.
The American constitution is an amazing document, but it needs to be updated.
Most powerful lobby is definitely the Jewish lobby and not the NRA. Every single tyrant in modern history attempted to disarm their population. Why you think that is?
BBfanUSA
12-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Whether or not he did it. I think the real criminal is the media...on both sides. Because the evidence in this case is so messed up.
Recently in my college sociology class we were talking about how the media influences our decisions and prejudice.
My teacher said that the 911 call has been on two stations, Each one is saying a different thing. One is saying that Trayvon and the other is saying that's George's and not only that they both sound different so it fits their argument.
Also he has seen two versions of the tape of Zimmerman in the police station.
One with the scars and one without the scars.
I'll not be surprised that he's declared innocent or there's a mistrial. But even if he didn't do it, they will have to send his ass off to rot in jail for the rest of his life or risk another LA Riot but this time across the whole country.
Jesus.
12-04-2012, 03:03 PM
Most powerful lobby is definitely the Jewish lobby and not the NRA. Every single tyrant in modern history attempted to disarm their population. Why you think that is?
That's just simply insane, and has no foundation in either facts or history. No other modern populations have ever really been armed, and the NRA isn't about preventing tyranny. The clip involved in the Gabby Gifford shooting proves that. The law that Zimmerman is trying to hide behind is an NRA/Jeb Bush special.
American politicians can question Israel, but name one that recently spoke out against the NRA. Not since the Gore election has anyone dared.
Jesus.
12-04-2012, 03:07 PM
Whether or not he did it. I think the real criminal is the media...on both sides. Because the evidence in this case is so messed up.
Recently in my college sociology class we were talking about how the media influences our decisions and prejudice.
My teacher said that the 911 call has been on two stations, Each one is saying a different thing. One is saying that Trayvon and the other is saying that's George's and not only that they both sound different so it fits their argument.
Also he has seen two versions of the tape of Zimmerman in the police station.
One with the scars and one without the scars.
I'll not be surprised that he's declared innocent or there's a mistrial. But even if he didn't do it, they will have to send his ass off to rot in jail for the rest of his life or risk another LA Riot but this time across the whole country.
Fox news has forced your media to be more polarised. Both sides isn't quite fair, there is no liberal alternative to fox news that spews lies, bile, and hatred 24 hours a day.
Brother Leon
12-04-2012, 03:54 PM
I think they're making a mistake charging Zimmerman with murder. Like Casey Anthony, they're doing this because of the public pressure. But Zimmerman can claim he acted in self-defense and the prosecution will have to prove that Zimmerman intentionally murdered him when there was no need for him to do so.
The kid begging for his life before being shot goes well beyond self defense.
Should get life. Full stop.
arista
12-04-2012, 05:23 PM
The Court is Live in a min
on SkyNews and CNN
arista
12-04-2012, 05:38 PM
Live Now
Only a 2-3min hearing
Jesus.
12-04-2012, 05:43 PM
The kid begging for his life before being shot goes well beyond self defense.
Should get life. Full stop.
And the police telling him not to follow him, of course.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17691459
George Zimmerman, the Florida neighbourhood watchman accused over the death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, has appeared in court.
During the brief hearing, a date of 29 May was set for a formal reading of the charges and a bail hearing.
Mr Zimmerman, 28, who turned himself in on Wednesday to face a charge of second-degree murder, stood up straight and wore a grey prison jumpsuit.
Mr Zimmerman has spent his first night in jail 45 days after shooting the teenager in a quiet gated community in the Orlando suburb of Sanford.
Mr Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, did not seek bail for his client during the brief hearing, as expected.
He told reporters outside the court afterwards he had decided not to ask for a bond because "it might only arouse the fervour" around the case.
The attorney said earlier that his client would plead not guilty.
Is this a new lawyer, or a member of the old team?
Liberty4eva
12-04-2012, 11:56 PM
That's just simply insane, and has no foundation in either facts or history. No other modern populations have ever really been armed, and the NRA isn't about preventing tyranny. The clip involved in the Gabby Gifford shooting proves that. The law that Zimmerman is trying to hide behind is an NRA/Jeb Bush special.
American politicians can question Israel, but name one that recently spoke out against the NRA. Not since the Gore election has anyone dared.
Politicians won't directly speak out against the NRA. To do so would be to alienate a segment of the population some of whom may be willing to vote for you. But they will act against the 2nd amendment. Google "operation fast and furious".
The Jewish Lobby, the military industrial complex, and international bankers is the 3 headed snake that must be dealt with.
lostalex
18-04-2012, 01:23 AM
The whole thing is now a circus.
Basically this is like a rape case. How many rapists are set free everyday? millions, why? because it's just a "he said/she said" scenario. and in this case there's not even a "she said" side to say anything because he's dead. The only witness is Zimmerman.
It's basically impossible to prove anything without any witnesses.
lostalex
18-04-2012, 01:25 AM
Politicians won't directly speak out against the NRA. To do so would be to alienate a segment of the population some of whom may be willing to vote for you. But they will act against the 2nd amendment. Google "operation fast and furious".
The Jewish Lobby, the military industrial complex, and international bankers is the 3 headed snake that must be dealt with.
wtf does the jewish lobby have to do with the NRA? yu make no sense. Most American Jews are Democrats and in favor of gun control. You make no sense.
Glenn.
18-04-2012, 03:47 AM
I've been to Sanford.
Just saying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17791236
The man accused of murder over the death of an unarmed Florida teenager has been granted bail, set at $150,000 (£93,000).
George Zimmerman's defence lawyer asked that his client be allowed to reside out of state because of safety fears.
Granting bail, the judge said Mr Zimmerman should inform the police of his location every three days and imposed a curfew between the hours of 19:00 and 06:00 each day.
Mr Zimmerman would be tracked electronically, he said, and would be forbidden from carrying firearms, drinking alcohol, or contacting the victim's family personally or through an intermediary.
Prosecutors asked Mr Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, about a 2005 incident when Mr Zimmerman was arrested for assaulting a police officer, and an anger management course he was required to take.
Just a week ago, Zimmerman was NOT seeking bail ..... :conf:
lostalex
21-04-2012, 02:14 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17791236
Just a week ago, Zimmerman was NOT seeking bail ..... :conf:
a week ago zimmerman was not in jail, why would yu seek bail if yu weren't in jail??
a week ago zimmerman was not in jail, why would yu seek bail if yu weren't in jail??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17691459
13 April 2012 George Zimmerman, the Florida neighbourhood watchman accused over the death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, has appeared in court.
During the brief hearing, a date of 29 May was set for a formal reading of the charges and a bail hearing.
Mr Zimmerman, 28, who turned himself in on Wednesday to face a charge of second-degree murder, stood up straight and wore a grey prison jumpsuit.
On Thursday (12th), Mr Zimmerman spent the evening in jail, after being arrested late Wednesday (11th), according to his booking report. It had been 45 days since he shot the teenager in a quiet gated community in the Orlando suburb of Sanford.
Mr O'Mara expects a bail hearing for Mr Zimmerman on 20 April.
During the hearing Mr O'Mara surprised onlookers by not seeking bail for his client.
He told reporters outside the court afterwards he had decided not to ask for a bond because "it might only arouse the fervour" around the case.
Mrluvaluva
17-05-2012, 02:37 PM
Travyon Martin, the unarmed teenager killed by George Zimmerman in Florida, reportedly had injuries to his knuckles when he died.
The claims in US media emerged after a post-mortem examination and could support Zimmerman's allegations that Trayvon attacked him before the 28-year-old shot him dead.
The medical examiner found two injuries on the 17-year-old's body: the fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles, according to WFTV.
Neighbourhood watch volunteer Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder and is now awaiting trial after being released on bail last month.
Legal expert Bill Sheaffer said the reported post-mortem findings were better for the defence than the prosecution.
He said: "It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defence, because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin."
But Mr Sheaffer warned there could be another explanation for Trayvon's knuckle injuries.
"It could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defend himself," he told WFTV.
Sky (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16229802)
Niamh.
17-05-2012, 02:44 PM
hhhmmm, I don't know if he can really claim that when he followed the boy, with a gun in his pocket for no apparent reason other than what he looked like.........after the emergency service people told him not to follow him
Vanessa
17-05-2012, 03:01 PM
I think Zimmerman is lying. He was a lot bigger than Martin. There's no way the boy could have overpowered him. :bored:
arista
17-05-2012, 03:03 PM
hhhmmm, I don't know if he can really claim that when he followed the boy, with a gun in his pocket for no apparent reason other than what he looked like.........after the emergency service people told him not to follow him
The problem is that Cop
has a record of calling in then shooting
before checking if they are armed.
Its down to the clothes /hood
the youth had on
sadly.
A Dogdy Cop
that needs to be removed from that job
if he gets away with the murder/error.
Niamh.
17-05-2012, 03:11 PM
He's not a cop is he? I thought he was just a member of the Neighbourhood watch?
Vanessa
17-05-2012, 03:14 PM
He's not a cop is he? I thought he was just a member of the Neighbourhood watch?
Yes. He was a Neighbourhood watch Captain. :blush:
arista
17-05-2012, 03:28 PM
He's not a cop is he? I thought he was just a member of the Neighbourhood watch?
Yes but Armed with a Gun
and connected to the Cops.
So he is a Dodgy low level Cop.
Niamh.
17-05-2012, 03:42 PM
Yes but Armed with a Gun
and connected to the Cops.
So he is a Dodgy low level Cop.
He's not a cop, he's part of the Neighbourhood watch, any American is allowed carry a gun with a licence
arista
17-05-2012, 03:52 PM
He's not a cop, he's part of the Neighbourhood watch, any American is allowed carry a gun with a licence
Yes
but many on USA TV call him a Cop.
For You
he is a Dodgy NW
SoBig
17-05-2012, 04:04 PM
He is not a cop. Not even remotely close. Anyone can be part of a neighbourhood watch.
arista
17-05-2012, 04:08 PM
He is not a cop. Not even remotely close. Anyone can be part of a neighbourhood watch.
Yes thats the problem they have.
Niamh.
17-05-2012, 04:11 PM
Yes thats the problem they have.
That in itself shouldn't be a problem, a neighbourhood watch member is only supposed to do that..........watch. The problem is with their gun laws imo
arista
17-05-2012, 04:15 PM
That in itself shouldn't be a problem, a neighbourhood watch member is only supposed to do that..........watch. The problem is with their gun laws imo
America will never change on Guns.
But NW Staff that are Dodgy
should be sacked
Niamh.
17-05-2012, 04:18 PM
America will never change on Guns.
But NW Staff that are Dodgy
should be sacked
Well certainly, if they're following people around with guns, yeah
Mrluvaluva
17-05-2012, 04:19 PM
He's not a cop, he's part of the Neighbourhood watch, any American is allowed carry a gun with a licence
You don't even need a license to carry a gun in Florida and there is no registry.
Niamh.
17-05-2012, 04:20 PM
You don't even need a license to carry a gun in Florida and there is no registry.
Wow, that's scary :shocked:
Kizzy
17-05-2012, 04:41 PM
He was in no way shape or form a cop...He was a vigilante.
The CCTV footage shows no marks on the man following the incident whatsoever.
Mrluvaluva
18-05-2012, 06:40 AM
Photos showing injuries to the alleged murderer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin are among a mass of evidence that has been made public for the first time.
Nearly 200 documents, photos and audio recordings related to the case have been released - revealing the 17-year-old was shot through the heart at close range.
It also emerged that an FBI expert found crucial evidence in the case - which has sparked civil rights protests and debates over guns laws across the United States - was inconclusive.
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ht_george_zimmerman_injuries_ll_120517_wg-600x350.jpg
The expert said it was impossible to tell if the voice heard screaming for help belonged to Trayvon or his shooter George Zimmerman just before the neighbourhood watch volunteer pulled the trigger.
Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder, says he was being beaten up before he fired the fatal shots and photos released show him with a bloody nose and cuts on his head.
Also among the evidence was a document from Trayvon's autopsy showing he had cannabis in his system at the time of his death on February 26.
Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' self-defence law.
But a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged him with second-degree murder -which Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to.
Relatives of both Zimmerman and Martin insist the voice heard screaming for help on a 911 emergency was their family member pleading for his life.
The cries were silenced by a single shot from Zimmerman's Kel Tec 9mm handgun.
Kenneth Marr, a specialist with the FBI's digital evidence laboratory, concluded: "Critical listening and digital signal analysis further revealed that the screaming voice of the 911 call is of insufficient voice quality and duration to conduct a meaningful voice comparison with any other voice samples."
His report added that the audio sample was "produced under an extreme emotional state," making it difficult to analyse.
Sky (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16230397)
arista
18-05-2012, 02:39 PM
Photos showing injuries to the alleged murderer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin are among a mass of evidence that has been made public for the first time.
Nearly 200 documents, photos and audio recordings related to the case have been released - revealing the 17-year-old was shot through the heart at close range.
It also emerged that an FBI expert found crucial evidence in the case - which has sparked civil rights protests and debates over guns laws across the United States - was inconclusive.
http://patdollard.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ht_george_zimmerman_injuries_ll_120517_wg-600x350.jpg
The expert said it was impossible to tell if the voice heard screaming for help belonged to Trayvon or his shooter George Zimmerman just before the neighbourhood watch volunteer pulled the trigger.
Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder, says he was being beaten up before he fired the fatal shots and photos released show him with a bloody nose and cuts on his head.
Also among the evidence was a document from Trayvon's autopsy showing he had cannabis in his system at the time of his death on February 26.
Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' self-defence law.
But a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged him with second-degree murder -which Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to.
Relatives of both Zimmerman and Martin insist the voice heard screaming for help on a 911 emergency was their family member pleading for his life.
The cries were silenced by a single shot from Zimmerman's Kel Tec 9mm handgun.
Kenneth Marr, a specialist with the FBI's digital evidence laboratory, concluded: "Critical listening and digital signal analysis further revealed that the screaming voice of the 911 call is of insufficient voice quality and duration to conduct a meaningful voice comparison with any other voice samples."
His report added that the audio sample was "produced under an extreme emotional state," making it difficult to analyse.
Sky (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16230397)
Why did he not go to Hospital to get it Checked Proper?
Thats what the USA TV News has said
lostalex
19-05-2012, 04:56 AM
He is not a cop. Not even remotely close. Anyone can be part of a neighbourhood watch.
pretty much anyone can be a cop too, it's not like they have very high standards.
Mrluvaluva
01-06-2012, 09:17 PM
The neighbourhood watch volunteer who killed an unarmed black teenager in a case that outraged America has been ordered to return to custody.
George Zimmerman has 48 hours to surrender to authorities after the judge ruled he had misled the court at previous hearings.
Zimmerman, 38, says he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defence after the two clashed at a gated community in Sanford in Florida in February. The killing prompted nationwide protests after police initially released him without charge.
Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty to a charge of second-degree murder, was originally released on a $150,000 bail bond.
Prosecutors say he misrepresented his financial status by failing to disclose several hundred thousands dollars in an account set up as a legal fund to receive donations from supporters.
The state attorney also says Zimmerman failed to mention that he had another passport when surrendering one to the authorities.
Zimmerman’s lawyer, Mark O'Meara, told the court the failures were the result of an innocent misunderstanding.
But judge Kenneth Lester ordered the bond be revoked and for Zimmerman to report to the Seminole County Sheriff.
Meanwhile, media organisations have applied to the court for access to thousands of pages of evidence in the case.
The prosecution and defence had agreed it should be withheld to protect details of witnesses and statements made by Zimmerman after the shooting.
But Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda said: "What's occurring, unfortunately, are cases are being tried in the public sector as opposed to in the courtroom.
“We are in a new age with Twitter, Facebook, and all these things I've never heard of before in my career. Everybody gets to find out intimate details about witnesses that never occurred before. Witnesses are going to be reluctant to get involved."
Evidence released so far appears to confirm that Zimmerman suffered injuries consistent with his story that Trayvon Martin had assaulted him.
But 911 calls have revealed that emergency service operators told Zimmerman not to leave his car to pursue the 17-year-old as he walked across the community.
Sky (http://news.sky.com/home/article/16239967)
BBfanUSA
02-06-2012, 10:27 PM
Why did he not go to Hospital to get it Checked Proper?
Thats what the USA TV News has said
maybe because he didn't feel like he had to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22824531
There is not a lot of trust in the police in this part of town, after the shooting of an unarmed black teenager, Trayvon Martin, by a volunteer neighbourhood watchman, George Zimmerman.
The police took weeks to arrest him, accepting his story that he thought the teenager was acting suspiciously, and had attacked him.
He was eventually charged with murder and the trial starts today.
:idc:
Me. I Am Salman
10-06-2013, 06:43 PM
We were talking about this in Sociology today.
I hope he gets banged up and rots in there.
Nedusa
10-06-2013, 10:45 PM
Unless the jury is predominately black, I think he will be found not guilty...!!!
lostalex
11-06-2013, 10:20 AM
From the evidence I've seen, it seems he is innocent. It's a problem with the laws. But you still have to follow the laws. and the laws say it's perfectly fine to carry a gun, and it's perfectly okay to use it if someone attacks you and you fear for your life.
Based on the injuries, it does seem that Trayvon martin attacks george Zimmerman first, and that George Zimmerman did fear for his life. Trayzon had injuring to his knuckles consistent with attacking someone and no other injuries except the bullet wound. Zimmerman had injuries consistant with his story that Martin punched him and he fell and then Martin got on top of him and started beating his head into the ground. Zimmer had injuries to his nose and to the back of his head to back that up.
Obviously Trayvon Martin could not have gotten the injuries to his knuckles After he was shot in the heart, it would have killed him instantly. which means he must have attacked Zimmerman first.
Personally i disagree with carrying guns and i disagree with the stand your ground law, but the court is not there to decide if the law is good or not, the court is there to enforce the law that politicians make.
It doesn't sound like George Zimmerman did anything illegal.
Roy Mars III
11-06-2013, 10:22 AM
agreed, Alex
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9141832
June 17, 2013 ( SANFORD, Fla.) -- Prosecutors and George Zimmerman's defense attorneys are returning for a second week of jury selection in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial.
Defense attorneys are confident they can pick a jury in the Florida county where the neighborhood watch volunteer fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a gated community last year. Zimmerman is pleading not guilty to second-degree murder, claiming self-defense.
Attorneys resume first-round of questioning Monday of potential jurors about their media exposure to the case that inspired protests nationwide. They've interviewed 41 prospects already.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys are seeking a pool of 40 potential jurors who have been screened for any influence of pretrial publicity before they move to a second round of questioning.
:idc:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/george-zimmerman-jury-_n_3474181.html
SANFORD, Fla. — A jury of six women, five of them white and the other a minority, was picked Thursday to decide the second-degree murder trial of George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who says he fatally shot Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, in self-defense.
Prosecutors have said Zimmerman, 29, racially profiled the 17-year-old Martin as he walked back from a convenience store on a rainy night in February 2012 wearing a dark hooded shirt.
The race and ethnicity of the minority chosen for the jury was not immediately available. Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.
Two of the jurors recently moved to the area – one from Iowa and one from Chicago – and two are involved with rescuing animals as their hobbies.
One juror had a prior arrest, but she said it was disposed of and she thought she was treated fairly. Two jurors have guns in their homes. All of their names have been kept confidential and the panel will be sequestered for the trial.
Opening statements are scheduled for Monday.
The central Florida community of Sanford is in Seminole County, which is 78.5 percent white and 16.5 percent black, roughly mirroring the jury's racial makeup.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys chose the panel of six jurors after almost two weeks of jury selection. In Florida, 12 jurors are required only for criminal trials involving capital cases, when the death penalty is being considered.
Some "jury" ..... :rolleyes:
lostalex
22-06-2013, 11:58 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/george-zimmerman-jury-_n_3474181.html
Some "jury" ..... :rolleyes:
what do you think is wrong with the jury?
if anything it sounds like the jury is best for the prosecution, because women are less inclined to support the stand your ground law, right?
Women in general are less supportive of gun laws, so the Trayvon Martin camp should be happy about this jury.
http://www.inquisitr.com/806880/zimmerman-jury-racist-sexist-trayvon-martin-jurors-almost-all-white-women/#CgVfO7eXomjfUXaF.99
The six person George Zimmerman jury is identified as B29, B76, B37, B51, E6 and E40. Four alternate jurors, labeled as E54, E28, B72, and E17, are two white men and two white women. Out of these 10 people only one person, B29, is non-white. She’s labeled as “unknown race” but it’s guessed she’s either African American or Hispanic, with some speculating she’s both.
Some people might argue the Zimmerman jury is racist because it doesn’t accurately represent the area. After all, 29.2 percent of the Sanford population is black. Seven out of 40 potential jurors were completely black, but none were picked for the Zimmerman jury.
:idc:
lostalex
22-06-2013, 11:59 AM
http://www.inquisitr.com/806880/zimmerman-jury-racist-sexist-trayvon-martin-jurors-almost-all-white-women/#CgVfO7eXomjfUXaF.99
:idc:
and how many hispanic jurors are there? Zimmerman is not white, he is hispanic, and there is how many hispanics on the jury??
You can argue that white jurors are just as racist against hispanics as they are against blacks, so it kind of balances itself out, doesn't it?
Zimmerman is not white, so how is having a majority white jury in his favor? He looks like a fat mexican to me. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/gty_george_zimmerman_trial_lpl_130619_wg.jpg
lostalex
22-06-2013, 12:06 PM
The Trayvon supporters keep on desperately trying to make it seem like he was killed by a white man. He wasn't killed by a white man, he was killed a by a brown man, an hispanic, a latino.
what do you think is wrong with the jury?
if anything it sounds like the jury is best for the prosecution, because women are less inclined to support the stand your ground law, right?
Women in general are less supportive of gun laws, so the Trayvon Martin camp should be happy about this jury.
That seems to be the American way of looking at it - finding a jury to suit the crime and the legal teams.
In the UK, single jury selection is random from several hundred random potential jurors and a jury is always 12 from a random 15, i.e. only 3 may be dismissed from each case, but are immediately available for other cases.
In rare cases, the prosecution or defence team may decide that it is appropriate for the jury to be vetted. Vetting a jury checks the suitability of the jury in comparison to the trial matter.
Vetting is only to be carried out in exceptional circumstance, in such cases that include national security issues and is only to be carried out with the permission of the Attorney General.
BBfanUSA
22-06-2013, 12:40 PM
Who cares, they're going to Deadlock it anyway or he'll be declared innocent or something.
This isn't involving gun laws, If Zimmerman had a knife instead of a gun he could've still killed him.
This is just a Stand Your Ground case that been blown out of proportion because a African American was killed by a Hispanic/Latino American (when originally some media outlets were trying to pass him off as a white guy) and the media has been looking for ratings. (Here's looking at you Nancy Grace)
Also ANY evidence that has been shown to the public should be thrown out.
lostalex
22-06-2013, 01:12 PM
It's stupid that people are obsessing about this one case, they should be obsessing about gun laws, not racism.
This case really has nothing to do with racism, they are just using racism to distract from the real issue, which is gun laws.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23034619
A Florida neighbourhood watchman shot dead an unarmed black teenager "because he wanted to", a prosecutor has said at the start of his murder trial.
George Zimmerman, 29, was a vigilante who presumed Trayvon Martin was up to no good, the jury of six women heard.
On Monday, the jury heard profanity-laced quotes from a phone call to police by Mr Zimmerman after he spotted the teenager walking in the gated community, in which the defendant tells an emergency dispatcher: "They always get away."
"George Zimmerman didn't shoot Trayvon Martin because he had to," prosecutor John Guy told the court.
"He shot him for the worst of all reasons: because he wanted to."
But a defence lawyer said Mr Zimmerman had been attacked first. "There are no monsters here," Don West told the jury.
He said that Trayvon used the street pavement like a weapon.
"Trayvon Martin armed himself with the concrete sidewalk and used it to smash George Zimmerman's head... That is a deadly weapon," Mr West said.
Trayvon's parents attended the first day of the trial but the teenager's mother, Sybrina Fulton, left the room as a recording of an emergency call moments before the fatal shot was played to the court.
The trial at a circuit court in Sanford is expected to focus on events leading up to the death.
Neither prosecutors nor defence lawyers dispute that Mr Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the chest with a 9mm handgun, nor that the teenager died at the scene.
Mr Zimmerman had been sitting in his vehicle observing the dark street when he saw Trayvon, who had his hood up while walking in the rain.
At some point the defendant, who had a permit to carry a concealed weapon, got out of his car and followed the teenager. Minutes later, the fatal confrontation ensued.
Mr Zimmerman has told police he lost sight of the teenager and was attacked as he walked back to his car.
But prosecutors say it was the defendant who started the argument.
There have been conflicting reports from witnesses about how the fight unfolded.
The trial is expected to last between two and four weeks, and the sequestered jurors will be constantly supervised by the local sheriff's office.
:idc:
Brother Leon
14-07-2013, 02:31 AM
Found not guilty of Murder or Manslaughter....wish I could say I am shocked, But I'm not. This is the life we live in..
Innocent just as i thought
Shaun
14-07-2013, 04:34 AM
crazy.
arista
14-07-2013, 09:45 AM
Innocent just as i thought
Yes never get that close to Cop with a Gun.
bbfan1991
14-07-2013, 12:21 PM
The not guilty verdict for George Zimmerman is a disgrace:mad:. My thoughts are with Trayvon Martin's family, no justice for them.
Roy Mars III
14-07-2013, 12:26 PM
it is not. The prosecution did a god awful job at the trial. If they would have gone for aggressive assault or something like that it probably would have worked. No jury in their right mind is going to sentence Zimmerman for manslaughter or murder with all the holes and discrepancies in the case. The experts were saying for the past week or so that Zimmerman would get off
he deserved to be acquitted.
GiRTh
14-07-2013, 12:52 PM
So many holes in t is case from both side and the media 'spinning' of certain events, I suppose this is the only logical outcome. Personally, I think Zimmerman did profile Trayvon Martin but all the people trying to get involved to further their name/cause has effected the outcome.
Tom4784
14-07-2013, 01:12 PM
Only in Florida....Chasing an unarmed boy down and shooting him dead due to a snap decision based on his race? That's A-Okay in Florida!
What an embarassing turn of events for America.
GiRTh
14-07-2013, 01:22 PM
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Brother Leon
14-07-2013, 01:42 PM
Manslaughter was the right call tbh. Well Murder was, but it was never legally going to be able to happen and the prosecution done a abit job proving it went beyond self defence. Thoughts go to the Martin family. Seeing your son's killer walk away...I mean,damn.
Nedusa
14-07-2013, 09:38 PM
As I predicted NOT guilty , tbh he was never going to be found guilty by a jury beyond a reasonable of such serious crimes, there were far too many inconsistencies in the prosecutions case.
Sad case all round, young man shot dead but the right to shoot people with a firearm defended....
Tipsy turvy world we live in....!!!
Livia
14-07-2013, 10:09 PM
None of us were in possession of all the fact, but hearing on a recorded telephone call the sound of a young man pleading for his life, followed by a gunshot I thought was pretty damning. As was the rest of the story that seemed littered with holes. I'm shocked at the verdict and I can understand why there has been a public outcry. Had the young man been shot by a police officer it would have been a different case (whether that's right or wrong), but the man who shot him was no more than a vigilante. It's given a precedent for vigilantes to kill. Shameful.
arista
15-07-2013, 06:24 AM
None of us were in possession of all the fact, but hearing on a recorded telephone call the sound of a young man pleading for his life, followed by a gunshot I thought was pretty damning. As was the rest of the story that seemed littered with holes. I'm shocked at the verdict and I can understand why there has been a public outcry. Had the young man been shot by a police officer it would have been a different case (whether that's right or wrong), but the man who shot him was no more than a vigilante. It's given a precedent for vigilantes to kill. Shameful.
Yes thats the American Way , though.
Are you saying he never went towards the Officer?
The outcry is not big
few hundreds each place.
I've not really been following this case, but I think all these protests in America are ever so slightly helping the case against the gun laws and hopefully tackle racism too. America is just such an impossibly large and diverse country with so many issues, it's logical to have a lot of powers devolved to a state level but I think the right to bear arms is an outdated concept that was relevant when people were playing games of divide and conquer, but has no place in America today. I don't know the ins and outs of this case but from what I've read it seems like Zimmermann hunted this boy down and killed him in cold blood. The boy was recorded begging for his life, for the love of God, how can any jury find him not guilty? Use a gun to drive someone off your property, don't chase them down and murder them!
CaudleHalbard
15-07-2013, 03:11 PM
Unfortunately for many in the USA, the answer to people using guns is to get an gun yourself!
The right to have a gun is in the American constitution. It's quite an unusual constitution in that respect.
Mrluvaluva
10-09-2013, 12:22 AM
The estranged wife of George Zimmerman, who was acquitted in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin, has alleged that he threatened her with a gun.
Shellie Zimmerman called police to her father's Florida home and claimed her husband punched her father in the nose, smashed an iPad and threatened them both with a firearm.
Police said Mrs Zimmerman declined to press charges despite the alleged threats.
She told the 911 dispatcher Mr Zimmerman had his hand on his gun while he was in his car and that she was scared because she did not know what he was capable of doing.
Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Mr Zimmerman had not been arrested and officers were at the house trying to determine what happened.
Police said the estranged couple accused each other of being at fault.
Mrs Zimmerman's 911 call on Monday took place nearly a week after she filed for divorce.
Kizzy
10-09-2013, 12:40 AM
The estranged wife of George Zimmerman, who was acquitted in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin, has alleged that he threatened her with a gun.
Shellie Zimmerman called police to her father's Florida home and claimed her husband punched her father in the nose, smashed an iPad and threatened them both with a firearm.
Police said Mrs Zimmerman declined to press charges despite the alleged threats.
She told the 911 dispatcher Mr Zimmerman had his hand on his gun while he was in his car and that she was scared because she did not know what he was capable of doing.
Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Mr Zimmerman had not been arrested and officers were at the house trying to determine what happened.
Police said the estranged couple accused each other of being at fault.
Mrs Zimmerman's 911 call on Monday took place nearly a week after she filed for divorce.
I still don't know how he got away with this?...
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