Woman seriously burned decanting petrol

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-17560534

A woman suffered serious burns when petrol ignited as she was decanting it in the kitchen of her York home because her daughter had run out of fuel.

The woman, who is in her 40s, suffered 40% burns in the accident in the Acomb area of the city on Thursday.

She has been taken to the burns unit at Pinderfields Hospital.

A fire service spokesman said: "Her daughter asked her mum for petrol because she had run out. The cooker was on and the fumes ignited."

The woman was treated by ambulance personnel in her kitchen before being taken to Pinderfields.

Her condition is not known but a North Yorkshire Fire Service spokesman described the burns as severe.

Regrettable, but inevitable due to the panic caused by the government ..... :sad:

[InOne]

Jesus :bored:

[King Gizzard]

Oh dear

[Kizzy]

Have just commented on this in another thread, who will be held accountable for this?
It was direct advice from Francis maude however it was David Cameron who caused the stampede to the pumps....hmmm .
Im surprised there haven't been more incidents like this to be honest.....

[King Gizzard]

Don't think you can hold anyone accountable for this really, it was daft doing it in the first place, especially in a kitchen

[Benjamin]

Don't think you can hold anyone accountable for this really, it was daft doing it in the first place, especially in a kitchen

Especially while the oven is on.

[arista]

Especially while the oven is on.


Yes big error.

[Scarlett.]

You think some people would make the connection between petrol and fire being dangerous....Jesus....

[Omah]

Have just commented on this in another thread, who will be held accountable for this?
It was direct advice from Francis maude however it was David Cameron who caused the stampede to the pumps....hmmm .
Im surprised there haven't been more incidents like this to be honest.....

Yeah, the Tories have totally mismanaged the "alleged" fuel crisis, rallying in support of their commercial cronies to demonise the unions - presumably, they hoped the "drama" would deflect attention from Osborne's intention to rob the poor and feed the rich ..... :rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

Yeah, the Tories have totally mismanaged the "alleged" fuel crisis, rallying in support of their commercial cronies to demonise the unions - presumably, they hoped the "drama" would deflect attention from Osborne's intention to rob the poor and feed the rich ..... :rolleyes:

Exactly!

[Livia]

She was "decanting petrol in her kitchen".

You cannot legislate for fools because they are so ingenious.

[GypsyGoth]

She was "decanting petrol in her kitchen".

You cannot legislate for fools because they are so ingenious.

Harsh but true, I agree.

[Kizzy]

Just harsh...

[GypsyGoth]

Just harsh...

Pouring petrol in a kitchen with a gas fire oven on is not something an intelligent person would do.

[Kizzy]

Neither is trying to light farts...but we all know someone who has done it.....

[GypsyGoth]

Neither is trying to light farts...but we all know someone who has done it.....

I've never met anyone who has done that.

And I hardly think it's the same as pouring petrol into a jug near an open flame.

[Jesus.]

There is far too much using my name in vain, in this thread.

The person involved probably fixes electrical appliances in the bath, too.

Although the wider point, is this would never of happened had there not been a fuel panic.

But you can't dispute the naivety (I'm being as polite as possible) of this womans actions.

[Benjamin]

Just harsh...

Not really. I feel sorry for her, but it was her own stupidity that did it.

[Benjamin]

Neither is trying to light farts...but we all know someone who has done it.....

I don't get your point.

[HBB1508]

Pouring petrol in a kitchen with a gas fire oven on is not something an intelligent person would do.

Totally agree and you would think by the time you reach your 40's you would just know that this would not be a great idea.

[Kizzy]

I don't get your point.

A source of ignition...deary me lol

[Omah]

I've never met anyone who has done that.

I've done it many times, safely, but I know of others who damaged themselves, others and nearby objects in the process, like this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWBQsp6e8E

:eek:

[Kizzy]

Listening to the firefighters report he suggests even using a mobile phones around petrol was dangerous..Anyone know that?...i didn't
I have seen people on phones while filling their car.

[Benjamin]

A source of ignition...deary me lol

Ok.

[Benjamin]

Listening to the firefighters report he suggests even using a mobile phones around petrol was dangerous..Anyone know that?...i didn't
I have seen people on phones while filling their car.

That is common knowledge surely? The signs at petrol stations even ask you to not use your mobile phones.

[Kizzy]

I know, but they ignore it...

[Benjamin]

I know, but they ignore it...

Then that is down to their own stupidity again.

[Kizzy]

Im not sure what point you are trying to make here?
Getting back to the original discussion if the injured lady had not been advised by government officials to use this method she would not have suffered the incident.
It may have been unwise of her to handle the petrol in the manner she did, but the scaremongering preceded the act.

[Z]

Human error, she'd be up for a Darwin Award if she'd died...

[Benjamin]

Im not sure what point you are trying to make here?
Getting back to the original discussion if the injured lady had not been advised by government officials to use this method she would not have suffered the incident.
It may have been unwise of her to handle the petrol in the manner she did, but the scaremongering preceded the act.

That both acts you mentioned are down to sheer stupidity of the person and that nobody else is accountable for them. Not really difficult to understand, Kizzy.

[Omah]

Im not sure what point you are trying to make here?
Getting back to the original discussion if the injured lady had not been advised by government officials to use this method she would not have suffered the incident.
It may have been unwise of her to handle the petrol in the manner she did, but the scaremongering preceded the act.

I agree ..... the Tories persistently make matters worse, except for their paymasters - THEY, of course, will NOT want for a gallon of petrol for any of their fleets of gas-guzzling limousines and 4x4s ..... :mad:

[arista]

Human error, she'd be up for a Darwin Award if she'd died...


She had her Gas Cooker On.


Fumes and Petrol - Deadly

At least her face was not burnt.

[Shaun]

What a moron.

[Ammi]

Listening to the firefighters report he suggests even using a mobile phones around petrol was dangerous..Anyone know that?...i didn't
I have seen people on phones while filling their car.

..that's probably why the signs are up in all of the petrol stations then

[Jesus.]

..that's probably why the signs are up in all of the petrol stations then

Damn you and your logic.

[Ammi]

Im not sure what point you are trying to make here?
Getting back to the original discussion if the injured lady had not been advised by government officials to use this method she would not have suffered the incident.
It may have been unwise of her to handle the petrol in the manner she did, but the scaremongering preceded the act.

..so I guess then...the car manufacturers are to blame for all of the road accidents

[Ammi]

Damn you and your logic.

..well..I'm not saying that's for sure though..there could be another reason

[King Gizzard]

Woman on the tannoy shouted at me once when I was on my phone in the back of the car, x ray vision

[Shaun]

I've never heard of being advised not to use mobile phones at a petrol station. *then again doesn't drive*

[Ammi]

I've never heard of being advised not to use mobile phones at a petrol station. *then again doesn't drive*

..there's signs up in every station..LOL

[Ammi]

Woman on the tannoy shouted at me once when I was on my phone in the back of the car, x ray vision

..you could have blown yourself up...and the car..then how would anyone get home

[arista]

This Lady was Cooking Dinner
And Transfering Petrol without a funnel.

Fumes and Petrol are Deadly.

[Jords]

Woman on the tannoy shouted at me once when I was on my phone in the back of the car, x ray vision

Ive had that happen before :joker:

[thesheriff443]

this accident involves fuel, and thats the only link that it has to the panic buying of petrol,
accidents like this happen every day!
people dont realise how volatile the fumes are in petrol, or that the spark from a lightswitch when there is a gas leak can cause an explosion!

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-17568804

The commonly-held belief that turning on a mobile phone in a petrol station can cause an explosion could be a myth, researchers have said.

Dr Adam Burgess, of the University of Kent,said that out of 243 petrol station fires attributed to mobiles around the world in the last 11 years, not one was caused by a handset.

Researchers said static electricity from the body caused many of the fires.

Spontaneous human combustion ..... :eek:

[Josy]

It's sad she was burned but she should have known better.

[Kizzy]

That both acts you mentioned are down to sheer stupidity of the person and that nobody else is accountable for them. Not really difficult to understand, Kizzy.

I didn't say I didn't understand did I?
In my opinion they are to a degree.

[Benjamin]

I didn't say I didn't understand did I?
In my opinion they are to a degree.

You said you didn't get my point. :crazy:

[Kizzy]

..so I guess then...the car manufacturers are to blame for all of the road accidents

Explain what you mean ammi...how are you relating that to this incident?

[thesheriff443]

the woman is responsable for the accident not the goverment!

[Josy]

the woman is responsable for the accident not the goverment!

Exactly.

[Kizzy]

You said you didn't get my point. :crazy:

I said i was not sure of your point...not that I did not understand...There is a difference. Please don't patronise me its rude.

[Ammi]

Explain what you mean ammi...how are you relating that to this incident?

...Car manufacturers are about the same to blame for silly drivers as the government are for someone pouring petrol..indoors..in the kitchen..with the oven on
..very unfortunate..with a terrible outcome..but not the brightest thing to do...as much as some may like to...David Cameron can't be blamed for everything

[Kizzy]

Oh fgs I didn't say they were directly responsible. im not repeating myself, I gave my opinion on page one...

[Ammi]

..they are neither directly or indirectly responsible for irresponsible people with petrol cans..next to ovens..switched on

[Kizzy]

Ok ammi thanks for your opinion :)

[Ammi]

...welcome

[thesheriff443]

peace again returns to the forum,lol

[King Gizzard]

I love a bit of peace. Martin Luther would be proud

[Kazanne]

I'll be disliked for this opinion,but,how on earth can anyone blame someone else for this,Anyone with two brain cells knows not to have an open flame near petrol,it's laughable some people blame David Cameron himself,infact anyone but themselves,was he holding the gerry can?have people not got minds of there own anymore,he gave sound advice but he should have known people would over react as usual ,with emptying petrol stations,seems we cant share, we want it all for ourselves.I hope that woman survives but what a daft thing to do,would anyone here do that?I certainly wouldn't,where has peoples common sense gone?

[Livia]

I'll be disliked for this opinion,but,how on earth can anyone blame someone else for this,Anyone with two brain cells knows not to have an open flame near petrol,it's laughable some people blame David Cameron himself,infact anyone but themselves,was he holding the gerry can?have people not got minds of there own anymore,he gave sound advice but he should have known people would over react as usual ,with emptying petrol stations,seems we cant share, we want it all for ourselves.I hope that woman survives but what a daft thing to do,would anyone here do that?I certainly wouldn't,where has peoples common sense gone?

I think you're in the majority, actually.

[Kazanne]

Have just commented on this in another thread, who will be held accountable for this?
It was direct advice from Francis maude however it was David Cameron who caused the stampede to the pumps....hmmm .
Im surprised there haven't been more incidents like this to be honest.....

No it wasn't ,it was peoples over the top reaction as usual,Why would anyone syphon petrol near an open flame?No ones fault but hers,

[Kazanne]

I think you're in the majority, actually.

Well that will be a first Livia,lol:xyxwave:

[Marc]

What a silly woman, she's just an idiot for doing it in the kitchen.

[Kizzy]

I'll be disliked for this opinion,but,how on earth can anyone blame someone else for this,Anyone with two brain cells knows not to have an open flame near petrol,it's laughable some people blame David Cameron himself,infact anyone but themselves,was he holding the gerry can?have people not got minds of there own anymore,he gave sound advice but he should have known people would over react as usual ,with emptying petrol stations,seems we cant share, we want it all for ourselves.I hope that woman survives but what a daft thing to do,would anyone here do that?I certainly wouldn't,where has peoples common sense gone?

Kezanne dont be silly, you will not be disliked for stating your opinion....

[Me. I Am Salman]

=(

[Me. I Am Salman]

What a silly woman, she's just an idiot for doing it in the kitchen.

I don't think it's fair to call her an 'idiot'. We're humans and we all make mistakes and now her whole life is basically ruined, so have a little sympathy eh :thumbs:

[Incensed]

As much as our present Government have handled this situation badly imo, there is no way they can be blamed for the stupidity of this lady. I really feel for her, but FGS!!....

[Ammi]

I don't think it's fair to call her an 'idiot'. We're humans and we all make mistakes and now her whole life is basically ruined, so have a little sympathy eh :thumbs:

..I think everyone has sympathy for what's happened to her Salman...it's awful..but the fact is..it wasn't the smartest thing to do..it's a shame that such a 'mistake'..has such a high price to pay
..but no one has said they don't have sympathy..for what the end result has been for her

[Kizzy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/petrol-farce-turns-to-tragedy-7604151.html

[Benjamin]

I don't think it's fair to call her an 'idiot'. We're humans and we all make mistakes and now her whole life is basically ruined, so have a little sympathy eh :thumbs:

I think it is very fair to call her an idiot. What she did was idiotic. I feel sorry for her that she has suffered, but it was down to her own stupidity that it happened.

[Omah]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/petrol-farce-turns-to-tragedy-7604151.html

"Mad" Maude must go!

:hmph:

[Livia]

"Mad" Maude must go!

:hmph:

He's ineffective and a liability and must go... but not over this. People have to take responsibility for themselves.

[Kizzy]

The government have to take responsibility for the disgusting way they handled this strike threat imo.

[Livia]

What a shame people use what is essentially a tragic accident to score political points.

[Kizzy]

Its not about points, its about admitting you made an error and aknowledging your comments contributed to a serious incident.

[Omah]

What a shame people use what is essentially a tragic accident to score political points.

The tragic accident wouldn't have happened if the Tories hadn't brought politics into an industrial dispute in order to distract attention from all the other gaffes they've made recently .....

[Marc]

What a shame people use what is essentially a tragic accident to score political points.

This

[chathappyforum]

I just think its gone way to far and people and gone silly with it , and yes i do think this women should have knew better .

[Kazanne]

The tragic accident wouldn't have happened if the Tories hadn't brought politics into an industrial dispute in order to distract attention from all the other gaffes they've made recently .....

We don't know it wouldn't have happened,i don't know about the government,but the press are the ones in my view who fuel things up by their sensationalised headlines,as for blaming 'the goverment' yet again all I saw Mr Cameron do was give advice NOT orders and people calling for one of them to resign because someone was stupid enough to fill cans in her KITCHEN near a naked flame,well the mind boggles,speaking of politics,Milliband could probably stop this strike now ,wonder why he HASN'T at least tried?!

[Kazanne]

What a shame people use what is essentially a tragic accident to score political points.

This^

[arista]

Its not about points, its about admitting you made an error and aknowledging your comments contributed to a serious incident.


Yes in her Kitchen
Gas Cooker on
Pouring Petrol Raw


She is Lucky to be Alive.


It is true to say she was worried about her daughter
so took some Petrol from her Can
and Poured it Raw next to a Gas Cooker.

Tragic.

But if this Strike goes ahead later
her burns will help the Women in this Land
that have No Freaking Idea how to Handle Petrol,
as this Tragic Accident has gone Global.


I am Blunt but Honest.

[Omah]

We don't know it wouldn't have happened

I think it's safe to say that the lady wouldn't normally keep petrol in her house ..... :rolleyes:

[Omah]

Milliband could probably stop this strike now ,wonder why he HASN'T at least tried?!

There's NO strike to stop at the moment ..... :nono:

[Kazanne]

There's NO strike to stop at the moment ..... :nono:

Don't split hairs Omah,lol,there is a strike looming,this is what this is all about.

[Kazanne]

I think it's safe to say that the lady wouldn't normally keep petrol in her house ..... :rolleyes:

I think it's safe to say most people would not be filling cans in their kitchen near a gas cooker that was lit ,she was to blame,no one else.:tongue:

[Omah]

Don't split hairs Omah,lol,there is a strike looming,this is what this is all about.

At the momemt, there is NO STRIKE for anybody to stop - the "looming" strike threat was whipped up by Cameron and his cronies for political ends .....

So what is the truth about the strike?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17512729

Fuel tanker drivers have voted in favour of taking strike action in a row over terms and conditions and safety, the Unite union has said.

About 2,000 drivers at seven distribution depots took part in the ballot in what was the first national industrial action campaign for more than 10 years.

Unite said five of the seven depots backed strike action, while two did not. Of those five, the vote in favour was 69%. Turnouts across the five averaged 77.7%.

"Drivers have voted for a strike, but each employer and Unite should now get back around the table to discuss the issues raised. Going ahead with strike action would have a real impact on people across the country," said John Cridland, CBI director general.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17558294

When could a strike be called?

Not before, or even over, Easter - a strike then has been ruled out by Unite. It is to join conciliation talks and says there may still be a strike after Easter if those fail.

:idc:

[Omah]

I think it's safe to say most people would not be filling cans in their kitchen near a gas cooker that was lit ,she was to blame,no one else.:tongue:

What prompted her to take that action ?

Was it the weather forecast, the football results, the price of bread?

:rolleyes:

[Ammi]

..this is all hypothitical..we don't know whether she would have bought the petrol can regardless of whether she was advised to or not...I'm sure many people bought them..but they were not badly burned...buying the can didn't cause the incident...disregard of basic safety precautions did

[Kizzy]

Don't be naive ammi, it was the government advising her to do this.
A good day to bury bad news...as some would say.....
It smacks of.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1358985/Sept-11-a-good-day-to-bury-bad-news.html

[Benjamin]

I'm with Ammi. People do stupid things everyday and nobody else is held accountable. This woman has her own stupidity to blame for what happened to her, nobody else.

[Ammi]

Don't be naive ammi, it was the government advising her to do this.
A good day to bury bad news...as some would say.....

..Naive?.....there are some would have your viewpoint..and some who would have mine...overall I mean...not on Tibbs...and it is only a view..because we don't know if she would have panic bought anyway..like so many others do..regardless of what ministers say or don't say ..whenever any possible shortage is mentioned..that's what some people do...make it worse..well..sometimes cause it...so please don't call me naive
.....but really..that's not the point...it isn't buying the petrol that caused this..I imagine lots of people did that...but only one woman was burnt...and strangely enough..that woman disregarded every safety precaution she could...now..I don't think it's naive...to find a little link between 'the correct handling of petrol'....and.....'lady getting badly burnt'

[Kizzy]

Ammi maybe naive was the wrong word, and yes I see that it is a popular view that it is entirely her own fault.
However, is it only omar and myself that see that this whole business with the tanker drivers was used very cleverly as spin to detract from recent bad press?....
It's a miracle only one woman was burnt, the comments of all three could have caused many more incidents.

[Ammi]

..I don't believe in miracles..but fortunately there are not many people who would handle petrol in the way this lady did or indeed there could be more unfortunate incidents
..I don't believe we will ever agree on this Kizzy..and as it is one of those 'no proof' things...and I'm only repeating myself in each post...I think I will retire from the thread..because I have nothing new to add

[thesheriff443]

kizzy your floging a dead horse,

[Kizzy]

Haha i think i am...:)

[Kazanne]

kizzy your floging a dead horse,

Make that TWO dead horses:hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

Cant stand Cameron most of the time, but to blame him for this is just as idiotic as this womans actions were tbh.

[InOne]

Ammi maybe naive was the wrong word, and yes I see that it is a popular view that it is entirely her own fault.
However, is it only omar and myself that see that this whole business with the tanker drivers was used very cleverly as spin to detract from recent bad press?....
It's a miracle only one woman was burnt, the comments of all three could have caused many more incidents.

:joker:

[Benjamin]

Its not about points, its about admitting you made an error and aknowledging your comments contributed to a serious incident.

How absolutely bloody ridiculous. It's the same as a doctor telling you that fruit is good for you then choking on a piece of fruit because you forgot to chew it before swallowing, and then blaming the doctor for making a comment that contributed to the incident.

[joeysteele]

I am sorry to be so blunt on this one and I hope she gets all sorted, however, what sensible person would ever even take petrol into a Kitchen area, let alone mess about with it while a cooker was on.

Sorry, it was her carelessness and stupidity that caused what happened.

[Kizzy]

:joker:
Seriously?.... Omah not omar...... Happy now? :idc:

[Kizzy]

How absolutely bloody ridiculous. It's the same as a doctor telling you that fruit is good for you then choking on a piece of fruit because you forgot to chew it before swallowing, and then blaming the doctor for making a comment that contributed to the incident.

No its not...thats a rubbish analogy.

[InOne]

Seriously?.... Omah not omar...... Happy now? :idc:

Oh come kizzy :idc: It was a funny typo

[Vicky.]

No its not...thats a rubbish analogy.

I actually fail to see the difference between the two situations :S

Except for that in one case the 'blame' is with a random doctor, in another case the 'blame' is with the prime minister. In essence they are the same thing really

[Kizzy]

It is not in any way shape or form similar to me vicky. I can't see it.

[Kizzy]

Oh come kizzy :idc: It was a funny typo


http://theseattlesalmon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/gone-fishing-sign.jpg

[InOne]

I'll have less of your cheek and silly pictures kizzy :idc: You have a few holes to dig yourself out of as it is

[Vicky.]

Person of 'authority' tell you it might be a good idea to do a certain task

You carry out task but make a ridiculous mistake that you should KNOW not to do...

It goes wrong because of your mistake and you get injured.

Its the person who advised you to do said tasks fault? Or your fault for being stupid?

[Kizzy]

Person of 'authority' tell you it might be a good idea to do a certain task

You carry out task but make a ridiculous mistake that you should KNOW not to do...

It goes wrong because of your mistake and you get injured.

Its the person who advised you to do said tasks fault? Or your fault for being stupid?

Vicky, I have explained my view on this on this thread.

[Vicky.]

:laugh: ok

[Kizzy]

I'll have less of your cheek and silly pictures kizzy :idc: You have a few holes to dig yourself out of as it is

Do I...Hows that then?

[InOne]

Do I...Hows that then?

It's not up to me to tell you.

[Kizzy]

It's not up to me to tell you.
Fine, when you find who it is up to let me know :D

[Benjamin]

Keep it on topic.