Tobacco Ban sees supermarkets remove cigarettes from view

[Ammi]

A ban on tobacco promotion comes into force on Friday in a bid to cut down on the number of people smoking.

The new legislation means all large shops and supermarkets in England must cover up cigarettes and hide tobacco products from public view.

The Department of Health said the move was in response to evidence that cigarette displays in shops can encourage young people to take up the habit.

More than 300,000 children under 16 try smoking each year and 5% of children aged 11 to 15 are regular smokers, according to its figures.

Meanwhile 39% of smokers say that they were smoking regularly before the age of 16.

Health Minister Anne Milton said: "We cannot ignore the fact that young people are recruited into smoking by colourful, eye-catching, cigarette displays.
"Most adult smokers started smoking as teenagers and we need to stop this trend.

"Banning displays of cigarettes and tobacco will help young people resist the pressure to start smoking and help the thousands of adults in England who are currently trying to quit."

Under the new rules all tobacco products must be kept out of sight except when staff are serving customers or carrying out other day-to-day tasks such as restocking.

Those found not complying with the law could be fined up to £5,000 or face imprisonment.

The ban on displays will roll out to smaller shops and businesses in three years time while the government is also consulting on introducing plain packaging for packets of cigarettes and other tobacco products.

BIB...I'm not convinced that has any bearing at all on what attracts people to smoke

[arista]

Yes its a Great Move.


Stinking Smokers
need to be banned more.


I love NYC
No Smoking in Public Main Streets

[Ammi]

Yes its a Great Move.


Stinking Smokers
need to be banned more.


I love NYC
No Smoking in Public Main Streets

LOL Arista..I know how you feel about smoking..but I'm not convinced the 'colourful eyecatching displays' have any bearing at all in 'enticing' people to smoke..I don't think they even are 'eyecatching' at all..and children are educated about the dangers of smoking from primary school age..if they decide to discard the warnings and smoke anyway..I don't think the lack of displays will be a factor

[Iceman]

Theres a complete ban here on showing them in any shops.....makes the machines more prominent though because theres just a big white machine behind a counter.....

[Ammi]

Theres a complete ban here on showing them in any shops.....makes the machines more prominent though because theres just a big white machine behind a counter.....

..where are you..ROI?..and that's what concerns me..the 'forbidden' element may actually make it more inviting to the young new smoker..for the ones already hooked..I don't think this move will make any difference

[Iceman]

..where are you..ROI?..and that's what concerns me..the 'forbidden' element may actually make it more inviting to the young new smoker..for the ones already hooked..I don't think this move will make any difference

Yeah Im in ROI, it just makes it more noticeable.....People notice stuff more when it's changed.

[Ammi]

Yeah Im in ROI, it just makes it more noticeable.....People notice stuff more when it's changed.

Yeah..smokers..hardened smokers won't be deterred at all..and if we're saying that young people are going to ignore all the many other warnings and try smoking anyway..imo the 'machine' is only going to entice them far more than any colourful packaging would..I don't know..it seems to me in the quest to discourage smoking in young people..they're in danger of doing the exact opposite

[joeysteele]

I have never seen anything more ridicuous as to this regulation to shops and stores, your attention is immediately drawn to the fact they have these sliding doors in place, this regulation is going to likely create the effect if it's wrong to be displaying them and selling them then younger people may want them.

However, the ASDA store where I am, also has hidden smoking related items like lighters etc, which is even more bonkers.

I have rarely seen queues like I have over recent weeks at the cigarette counters there, furthermore since cigarettes went up in the budget, people seem to be buying packs of 100s or 200s to save a bit of the rise in price.

Incredible that smokers are being inconvenienced for this daft Govt ruling, but alcohol in Stores is just about poured down your throat,with displays all over from entering the store and even displays at the top of the confectionery aisles too.
Alcohol can do as much if not worse harm to the body as cigarettes,yet children see adults piling alcohol into trollies juslt like its general shopping.

Total hypocrisy from a far more interfering Govt than the last one even was now. I don't smoke,never have, never will, I however think this is pathetic.

Should people stop smoking or cut down bigtime then the Govt would be in panic at the lost massive income it gets from cigarettes and tobacco.
Watching the staff having to slide these panels backwards and forwards with a queue of something like 20+ people waiting to be served is something I wouldn't expect to see in Stores supposedly open for business.

Bonkers, is the only appropriate word for this ruling by this now fast becoming totally incompetent/too interfering coalition Govt.

[waterhog]

i think its great to - disgusting habit and if it helps on people not going into this addiction - its got to be a good thing.

[Iceman]

Yeah..smokers..hardened smokers won't be deterred at all..and if we're saying that young people are going to ignore all the many other warnings and try smoking anyway..imo the 'machine' is only going to entice them far more than any colourful packaging would..I don't know..it seems to me in the quest to discourage smoking in young people..they're in danger of doing the exact opposite

Yeah, I do wonder sometimes who comes up with these ideas.....'let's pretend nobody smokes' is basically what they're trying to do here.

[Ammi]

I have never seen anything more ridicuous as to this regulation to shops and stores, your attention is immediately drawn to the fact they have these sliding doors in place, this regulation is going to likely create the effect if it's wrong to be displaying them and selling them then younger people may want them.

However, the ASDA store where I am, also has hidden smoking related items like lighters etc, which is even more bonkers.

I have rarely seen queues like I have over recent weeks at the cigarette counters there, furthermore since cigarettes went up in the budget, people seem to be buying packs of 100s or 200s to save a bit of the rise in price.

Incredible that smokers are being inconvenienced for this daft Govt ruling, but alcohol in Stores is just about poured down your throat,with displays all over from entering the store and even displays at the top of the confectionery aisles too.
Alcohol can do as much if not worse harm to the body as cigarettes,yet children see adults piling alcohol into trollies juslt like its general shopping.

Total hypocrisy from a far more interfering Govt than the last one even was now. I don't smoke,never have, never will, I however think this is pathetic.

Should people stop smoking or cut down bigtime then the Govt would be in panic at the lost massive income it gets from cigarettes and tobacco.
Watching the staff having to slide these panels backwards and forwards with a queue of something like 20+ people waiting to be served is something I wouldn't expect to see in Stores supposedly open for business.

Bonkers, is the only appropriate word for this ruling by this now fast becoming totally incompetent/too interfering coaition Govt.

..a very good post Joey..it's a silly idea to think it would act as a discouragement..and it's true about the alcohol too
..crikey Joey..you said bonkers twice LOL..but it fairly much describes what it is

[Marc]

I don't see it as a bad thing.

But I don't think it'll ever stop people smoking or starting to smoke :shrug: they don't start smoking because it's on display to them!

[Marc]

I don't see it as a bad thing.

But I don't think it'll ever stop people smoking or starting to smoke :shrug: they don't start smoking because it's on display to them!

[joeysteele]

..a very good post Joey..it's a silly idea to think it would act as a discouragement..and it's true about the alcohol too
..crikey Joey..you said bonkers twice LOL..but it fairly much describes what it is

:joker: I cannot claim credit for the bonkers use Ammi, I wnated a lighter and had to queue for ages to get one, in front of me was a Woman who was going to buy cigarettes,she was 87, fitter than a lot of people I have seen who don't smoke and she had smoked since she was 15 she said.

When she got to the counter after getting her cigarettes all she said to the assistant was this is completely bonkers.

It seemed to me after she said it, no other word was really appropriate.(I loved talking to her though).

[Ammi]

i think its great to - disgusting habit and if it helps on people not going into this addiction - its got to be a good thing.

..well imo it will do the exact opposite..that's the point I'm making..unless they're trying to encourage smoking..for the tax..this could be a conspiracy thing LOL

[Ammi]

:joker: I cannot claim credit for the bonkers use Ammi, I wnated a lighter and had to queue for ages to get one, in front of me was a Woman who was going to buy cigarettes,she was 87, fitter than a lot of people I have seen who don't smoke and she had smoked since she was 15 she said.

When she got to the counter after getting her cigarettes all she said to the assistant was this is completely bonkers.

It seemed to me after she said it, no other word was really appropriate.(I loved talking to her though).

Haha....Joeysteele :love:

[arista]

LOL Arista..I know how you feel about smoking..but I'm not convinced the 'colourful eyecatching displays' have any bearing at all in 'enticing' people to smoke..I don't think they even are 'eyecatching' at all..and children are educated about the dangers of smoking from primary school age..if they decide to discard the warnings and smoke anyway..I don't think the lack of displays will be a factor


By 2015
all shops will cover up Displays
in England.


It helps reduce smoking on young people.

[Marc]

It doesn't though :shrug:

Peer pressure and seeing others smoke does

[Vicky.]

Health Minister Anne Milton said: "We cannot ignore the fact that young people are recruited into smoking by colourful, eye-catching, cigarette displays.
"Most adult smokers started smoking as teenagers and we need to stop this trend.


:joker:

When I started smoking I didnt even get them from shops, neither did most people I knew at the time. Nor did I find the boxes 'colourful and eye catching'

I noticed this new display thing in morrisons on tuesday. I only noticed because the sliding door was jammed for the poor woman behind the counter who was waiting for her supervisor to come to sort it out while the queue got longer and people tutted at her like it was her fault. Felt really bad for her actually :S

[Marc]

That's because most customers are rude and impatient bastards

[Vicky.]

..where are you..ROI?..and that's what concerns me..the 'forbidden' element may actually make it more inviting to the young new smoker..for the ones already hooked..I don't think this move will make any difference

Exactly!

Kids do what they arent meant to...it happens. The more they arent meant to do it, the more they will want to. This wont change anything for the better. If anything more kids will smoke IMO

Also wondering how long before they ban displays of alcohol, as surely this is as much of a problem as child smokers ;)

[Vicky.]

That's because most customers are rude and impatient bastards

Ya I know this, but I dont see why shop workers need any extra stress on top of what they already get :laugh:

[Ammi]

:joker:

When I started smoking I didnt even get them from shops, neither did most people I knew at the time. Nor did I find the boxes 'colourful and eye catching'

I noticed this new display thing in morrisons on tuesday. I only noticed because the sliding door was jammed for the poor woman behind the counter who was waiting for her supervisor to come to sort it out while the queue got longer and people tutted at her like it was her fault. Felt really bad for her actually :S

..yeah I bet it's gone down really well with the staff..and imo..there's nothing quite like a bit of 'taboo-ness' to encourage you to try it more..it actually draws attention to it

[arista]

"more bonkers."


No Joey
Stinking Fags Hidden
is the way Forward.

[Vicky.]

"more bonkers."


No Joey
Stinking Fags Hidden
is the way Forward.

Arista its really not. If it was I would fully support this as (although I smoke) it would be fantastic to see a decrease in the number of young smokers

But teens will be teens, and the more taboo something is, the more they want to do it.

Think about it...take drinking. In greece (I can only use this as an example because I lived there and noticed this) the legal drinking limit is 14. Yet in the 6 months I was there...working in a bar...I never once saw a 14 year old drunk. They came in occasionally for a half or two but thats it. Compare this to our limit of 18 which sees kids as young as 11/12 downing litres of cider on street corners because they arent 'allowed' to...

[Marc]

Ya I know this, but I dont see why shop workers need any extra stress on top of what they already get :laugh:

Poor lassy.

[Marc]

They need to make cigarettes really expensive. That'll do it

[Boothy]

They've had this in place at my local Co-Op for a few weeks now, it's absolutely ridiculous. Big black doors infront of the cigarettes with 'Can't see what you're looking for? Ask a member of staff if you want tobacco.'

I can't imagine anyone being deterred by that.

[Marc]

People go to the shops FOR tobacco so it's not as if they see it and then remember they need some

[Vicky.]

They've had this in place at my local Co-Op for a few weeks now, it's absolutely ridiculous. Big black doors infront of the cigarettes with 'Can't see what you're looking for? Ask a member of staff if you want tobacco.'

I can't imagine anyone being deterred by that.

LOL. Thats hilarious :laugh2:

I dont remember seeing a sign when I went, only the doors

[Marc]

LOL. Thats hilarious :laugh2:

I dont remember seeing a sign when I went, only the doors

They must think you smokers can't read in Chester-le-Street :laugh:

[joeysteele]

"more bonkers."


No Joey
Stinking Fags Hidden
is the way Forward.

arista, you know by and large I agree with you on most things,this is one I don't.
If any Govt had the courage to dare to make selling cigarettes illegal then their hypocrisy as to this would then be gone for the most part.

However, smoking, drinking etc are legal acts in the UK and the Govt should excuse the pun butt out and let people smoke if they want to and not to if they don't,
A legal product on sale in the UK should not be hidden from those who wish to purchase it, that is interference in private business on a scale even the last nanny Govt ,Labour, didn't reach.

Indeed the covering up of the displays, with the panelling most have put up now in fact only draws your attention more to what it is covering up.

This is in my view a stupid ruling by this Govt, one of a good few rulings already done and still growing.

[arista]

They've had this in place at my local Co-Op for a few weeks now, it's absolutely ridiculous. Big black doors infront of the cigarettes with 'Can't see what you're looking for? Ask a member of staff if you want tobacco.'

I can't imagine anyone being deterred by that.


Sure
But in Time it will Work,

I Also want Smokers banned from Main Streets

[Pyramid*]

If the Government were REALLY that concerned - they'd make smoking tobacco illegal.

All they are doing is paying lip service to it all.

They make far too many billions of £s on the tax and vat on cigarettes and tobacco to every want to put their 'money' where their mouths are..... and ban it.

They won't as it generates far too much revenue, so in the meantime: they play these silly pretences of implying that they want people to stop smoking or reduce the numbers: to use the pun ''it's nothing but a smokescreen'.

[Vicky.]

If the Government were REALLY that concerned - they'd make smoking tobacco illegal.

All they are doing is paying lip service to it all.

They make far too many billions of £s on the tax and vat on cigarettes and tobacco to every want to put their 'money' where their mouths are..... and ban it.

They won't as it generates far too much revenue, so in the meantime: they play these silly pretences of implying that they want people to stop smoking or reduce the numbers: to use the pun ''it's nothing but a smokescreen'.
:worship:

[Marc]

We're all going to die http://www.eternalduel.com/image/small/frantic.gif

[arista]

This System of Hidden Deadly Fags
works in Canada.

[Pyramid*]

Who can afford holidays nowadays? :shrug:

Haven't you seen the advert with Stephen Fry and Rupert Grint? :joker: Stay in the UK!

flights are available for less cost than a half decent meal / night out.

I deliberately go abroad within the Eurozone to buy my tobacco and cigarttes for 6months - flights are cheap as chips and the money I save on buying at Eurozone prices compared to UK prices: literally pays for a week vacation in nice hotels: and that includes my spendy money.

3 days at Xmas for £99 in a 4* HB, including flights..... who can't afford that!

[joeysteele]

If the Government were REALLY that concerned - they'd make smoking tobacco illegal.

All they are doing is paying lip service to it all.

They make far too many billions of £s on the tax and vat on cigarettes and tobacco to every want to put their 'money' where their mouths are..... and ban it.

They won't as it generates far too much revenue, so in the meantime: they play these silly pretences of implying that they want people to stop smoking or reduce the numbers: to use the pun ''it's nothing but a smokescreen'.

Hi Pyramid* :hugesmile::dance::dance:You have been a massive miss, Needed you like crazy last week,:joker:

Totally right as ever and great to see your name again, really missed you.

[arista]

This System of Hidden Deadly Fags
works in Canada.

[Pyramid*]

We're all going to die http://www.eternalduel.com/image/small/frantic.gif


Well they do say the only thing in life that's certain is death and taxes (mostly on fags !!) :D

[Marc]

Are there any parents (who don't smoke) who have a view on this?

[Pyramid*]

Hi Pyramid* :hugesmile::dance::dance:You have been a massive miss, Needed you like crazy last week,:joker:

Totally right as ever and great to see your name again, really missed you.

Hello Joey! Thanks for the welcome back. :wavey:

What happened last week- what fun did I miss ! :shocked:

I am just back from holiday funny enough - with 6 months supply of fags/baccy - so Ammi must have read my mind when she started this thread! :hugesmile:

You'll have to excuse me.... I have some smokers phlegm that I need to hoak up into a spitton.................. :D (jkg!!)

[arista]

We're all going to die http://www.eternalduel.com/image/small/frantic.gif



Sure
But Stinking Smokers can Die in Horrid Pain
Coughing up Blood etc.

[joeysteele]

Hello Joey! Thanks for the welcome back. :wavey:

What happened last week- what fun did I miss ! :shocked:

I am just back from holiday funny enough - with 6 months supply of fags/baccy - so Ammi must have read my mind when she started this thread! :hugesmile:

You'll have to excuse me.... I have some smokers phlegm that I need to hoak up into a spitton.................. :D (jkg!!)



Oh nothing of great importance just a great load of fun in a game that was going,so glad to see you back and :joker: love the humour you have injected into this topic on tobacco displays too.:joker:.


Hope you had a really good break and a great holiday too, honestly though, a very warm welcome back.

[Boothy]

Sure
But in Time it will Work,

I Also want Smokers banned from Main Streets

arista
For PM

Life in the Fast Lane

[Marc]

Sure
But Stinking Smokers can Die in Horrid Pain
Coughing up Blood etc.

Yes true, however their smoke could get us
the
same way

[joeysteele]

Sure
But Stinking Smokers can Die in Horrid Pain
Coughing up Blood etc.

Being fair,a lot of people do that arista having never had a cigarette in their mouth ever or been around smokers particularly.

It's not just smokers that may end up possibly suffering that and likely most smokers never do anyway.

[Pyramid*]

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Vicky - is mum aware of the new rules that came into force 1st October? Just tell her to be aware - it's a very badly worded ruling which basically is worded to put the frighteners on travellers - a few of my friends bottled it but as long as it can be justified as own use - no issue - but if she's unaware - might be worthwhile ensuring she's in the know - I love the wording


"Although there are no limits on the amount of alcohol and tobacco you can bring in from EU countries, customs officials are more likely to ask you questions if you have more than the following:"


http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/arrivingeu.htm

If our goverment played fair ball: they'd actually gain MORE tobacco sales in the long run.

Amber Leaf baccy - was being sold on a promo - 1kg with free 1/2 bottle of vodka ! :D Superb!

[Pyramid*]

Sure
But Stinking Smokers can Die in Horrid Pain
Coughing up Blood etc.


True - but many other non smoking related illnesses cause many people to die in horrid pain and far worse things that coughing up blood.

You pays your money: you takes your chance.

I'd far rather the smell of a smoker than someone with a leaking colostomy bag - maybe I'm fussy that way. :blush2:

[Me. I Am Salman]

This is all stupid, it just diverts attention towards them more

[Vicky.]

Vicky - is mum aware of the new rules that came into force 1st October? Just tell her to be aware - it's a very badly worded ruling which basically is worded to put the frighteners on travellers - a few of my friends bottled it but as long as it can be justified as own use - no issue - but if she's unaware - might be worthwhile ensuring she's in the know - I love the wording


http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/arrivingeu.htm

If our goverment played fair ball: they'd actually gain MORE tobacco sales in the long run.

Amber Leaf baccy - was being sold on a promo - 1kg with free 1/2 bottle of vodka ! :D Superb!

Oh. I dont know if shes aware, might give her a ring later. I didnt know there was no limit now, and neither does she...she thinks its still like 5k a person or whatever it was (has told my brothers friend to bring a massive suitcase even if he doesnt need it, and told my dad and brother they need one each instead of sharing :laugh: )

Edit oh, 3.2k it looks like it was. LOL at them trying to stop people bringing more than 800 :joker:

[Barbie]

I don't know anyone who smokes because of the so called "colourful packaging" that statement is just ridiculous!

I cant see it making much difference, i can actually see it encouraging young people to smoke, when you are a teen alot is about defiance and now these forbidden hidden behind the doors cigarettes are going to be desired.

For example since i was young alcohol has always been around in small quantities as just a drink, a little bit of shandy or a sip of grandads beer was normal so for me alcohol has never been this massive thing and its there but you don't go silly, those that get hold of it who haven't had much to do with it and see it as a big deal and rebelling against parents go crazy and end up paraletic.
I can only see young people have more desire to get to what is behind the doors rather than just being oblivious, lets face it everyone knows about smoking.

[Pyramid*]

This is all stupid, it just diverts attention towards them more

Of course it's stupid. The wee buggar that's in all of us at times; when someone tells you NOT to do something or that you can't have something: that's when it makes you all the more curious. The one guaranteed way for me to try something out when I was younger was to tell me 'No...'. :devil:

Oh. I dont know if shes aware, might give her a ring later. I didnt know there was no limit now, and neither does she...she thinks its still like 5k a person or whatever it was (has told my brothers friend to bring a massive suitcase even if he doesnt need it, and told my dad and brother they need one each instead of sharing :laugh: )


Friends of mine brought in a load of rolling tobacco and were asked if it was soley for them - which it was - and were actually asked if they could demonstrate by making a rollie..... :shocked: True.

But the crucial wording is the bit I bolded.... ;) - it's jus that they 'may' make it 'more likely' for you to be questioned - it's a frightener - nothing more. ;)

[Vicky.]

Friends of mine brought in a load of rolling tobacco and were asked if it was soley for them - which it was - and were actually asked if they could demonstrate by making a rollie..... :shocked: True.

But the crucial wording is the bit I bolded.... ;) - it's jus that they 'may' make it 'more likely' for you to be questioned - it's a frightener - nothing more. ;)

:laugh2:

Well if they do that to mum, dad can make rollies so thats fine

She would also probably say something about only being able to afford to go away once every 3 years or something (lies but they dont know that) to justify her huge haul. She doesnt get nervous around authority, like me :D

When me gav and his dad went to turkey, his dad brought back a lot more than we were meant to (you are only allowed 200 per person OR tobacco I think it is, he had about 4000 + loads of baccy) and he proper choked at the airport. They didnt search us but they asked how many ciggies he had. He went bright red and started stuttering so I said we had 200 each. They then asked about baccy to which I replied that the baccy out there was crap and snide, why would we want to smoke any of that crap...and I actually want a cig now after the 3+ hour journey so can they please leave me alone. It worked and they let us through :laugh:

[InOne]

I think I might move to one of the countries in Europe that just ignored the smoking ban :bored: They're chilling in a nice pub or cafe with a cig and we're made to feel like we're buying crack from the co-op

[Sam:)]

It seems that the majority of Tobacco laws come into Ireland a few years before they do in the UK.
We've had this law for maybe 2 years now...As many have already pointed out most shops use them big machines, but now they put ads for chocolate and shop offers on it.

[joeysteele]

I think I might move to one of the countries in Europe that just ignored the smoking ban :bored: They're chilling in a nice pub or cafe with a cig and we're made to feel like we're buying crack from the co-op

That InOne is a very strong and totally valid point, no one should be made to feel an outcast or that they are doing anything wrong when all they are doing is participating in something that is legal and also that they have had to pay for it too.

[Vicky.]

You know, my mum said a few months back...and I laughed at the time but it seems to be very true, that its more socially acceptable to snort a line of coke than it is to light a cigarette up.

She actually said this during a meeting at work about smoking (she works for the NHS :laugh: ) and the majority of people there..or so she said, after getting over how she dared say that infront of the bosses, agreed with her. And she has a point IMO.

[InOne]

It seems that the majority of Tobacco laws come into Ireland a few years before they do in the UK.
We've had this law for maybe 2 years now...As many have already pointed out most shops use them big machines, but now they put ads for chocolate and shop offers on it.

You were the first country in the world to have an outright Smoking ban. 2004 I think

[Kizzy]

Of course it's stupid. The wee buggar that's in all of us at times; when someone tells you NOT to do something or that you can't have something: that's when it makes you all the more curious. The one guaranteed way for me to try something out when I was younger was to tell me 'No...'. :devil:




Friends of mine brought in a load of rolling tobacco and were asked if it was soley for them - which it was - and were actually asked if they could demonstrate by making a rollie..... :shocked: True.

But the crucial wording is the bit I bolded.... ;) - it's jus that they 'may' make it 'more likely' for you to be questioned - it's a frightener - nothing more. ;)

Hello! :) ... As an ex smoker I am for the ban, it was harder trying to quit when they seemed to be everywhere! haha. In the queue at the lottery terminal they mock you ...hide them I say.

[Jesus.]

It just reeks of trying to sweep a problem under the carpet. Out of sight, out of mind, when in reality, most young people don't start smoking because they can see cigarettes in the supermarket.

[Kizzy]

Are there any parents (who don't smoke) who have a view on this?

Yes me, my 'angels' emotionally blackmailed me into stopping ....
So I told them if they ever start I will start again too and make damn sure it kills me....Fear is healthy :devil:

[arista]

It just reeks of trying to sweep a problem under the carpet. Out of sight, out of mind, when in reality, most young people don't start smoking because they can see cigarettes in the supermarket.



Yes
But by getting them Out of View,
the Younger Kids Grow up
not viewing Stinking Fag Packs.


It works in Canada.



Sign Of The Times.

[Jesus.]

Yes
But by getting them Out of View,
the Younger Kids Grow up
not viewing Stinking Fag Packs.


It works in Canada.



Sign Of The Times.

Smoking is not an advertising problem, it's a societal problem. There are lots of things I've grown up seeing on supermarket shelves that I've never felt the inclination to try.

[bbfan1991]

Good idea this is:D;).

[Pyramid*]

I think I might move to one of the countries in Europe that just ignored the smoking ban :bored: They're chilling in a nice pub or cafe with a cig and we're made to feel like we're buying crack from the co-op

that's the bit that pisses me off big time. Smokers have been harrassed for years now - most of where we smoke is so restricted that enough is enough. If you don't like my fag smoke - then walk away - no one is tying or has superglued your feet to that spot if the wind is blowing it in your direction.

viva la revolution.

[Pyramid*]

Hello! :) ... As an ex smoker I am for the ban, it was harder trying to quit when they seemed to be everywhere! haha. In the queue at the lottery terminal they mock you ...hide them I say.


*lights up fag and casually blows smoke in Kizzy's direction*

:devil:

good for you on giving up - I should for health reasons but ach....... it's one of my few vices.

Perhaps I'll try prostitution when the fags have completely knacked my lungs and it's all I can do to lay down............ see - always have a back up plan ! :D

[Jesus.]

that's the bit that pisses me off big time. Smokers have been harrassed for years now - most of where we smoke is so restricted that enough is enough. If you don't like my fag smoke - then walk away - no one is tying or has superglued your feet to that spot if the wind is blowing it in your direction.

viva la revolution.

That's like riding a motorbike on the pavement and telling pedestrians they can get out of the way if they don't want to be run over.

[Livia]

Well, not being on display doesn't seem to have decreased the uptake of other drugs. I've never see cocaine or heroin on display, or a prettily packaged bag of weed... and yet people still get into it.

[Jesus.]

*lights up fag and casually blows smoke in Kizzy's direction*

:devil:

good for you on giving up - I should for health reasons but ach....... it's one of my few vices.

Perhaps I'll try prostitution when the fags have completely knacked my lungs and it's all I can do to lay down............ see - always have a back up plan ! :D

Or a plan for "up your back" :joker:

[bbfan1991]

Alcohol will need hiding too at this rate, although that will not stop the determined alcoholics because they will just go round to the pub or get booze off someone they know...

[joeysteele]

Well, not being on display doesn't seem to have decreased the uptake of other drugs. I've never see cocaine or heroin on display, or a prettily packaged bag of weed... and yet people still get into it.

Another excellent point.

[Boothy]

Well, not being on display doesn't seem to have decreased the uptake of other drugs. I've never see cocaine or heroin on display, or a prettily packaged bag of weed... and yet people still get into it.

Great point, this.

The more I think about it, the more stupid it becomes.

[Smithy]

I really don't get the fuss, if you smoke and you're gonna carry on smoking whats the problem :conf2:

[Pyramid*]

That's like riding a motorbike on the pavement and telling pedestrians they can get out of the way if they don't want to be run over.

Riding a motorbike on pavements is illegal.

Smoking outside is not.

I'd have thought that was more than obvious......


Well, not being on display doesn't seem to have decreased the uptake of other drugs. I've never see cocaine or heroin on display, or a prettily packaged bag of weed... and yet people still get into it.

Absolutely. And part of the attraction is that little edge in knowing your doing something you really shouldn't be doing when rolling a spliff....... it add to the allure, to the fun of it all.

It's a fabulous move on the government's part - it's going to make it seem all so surrepticious, something bad to be doing - so bad that it's cool ..... and all the while, they rake in the tax and revenue. Not so daft our politicians....not so daft at all. ;)

[Livia]

Riding a motorbike on pavements is illegal.


Absolutely. And part of the attraction is that little edge in knowing your doing something you really shouldn't be doing when rolling a spliff....... it add to the allure, to the fun of it all.

It's a fabulous move on the government's part - it's going to make it seem all so surrepticious, something bad to be doing - so bad that it's cool ..... and all the while, they rake in the tax and revenue. Not so daft our politicians....not so daft at all. ;)

I have no idea what you're talking about, obviously....................

[arista]

so called "colourful packaging"



Its about tots growing up
this Works in Canada

[Kizzy]

It may or may not work, I dont buy into the conspiracy theory side of it, maybe the thinking is 'out of sight out of mind?'
It will as I said really help those who have stopped not to be tempted, as I don't think the urge ever really goes away....Not compleatly, as you can associate smoking with good times.

[bananarama]

I have never seen anything more ridicuous as to this regulation to shops and stores, your attention is immediately drawn to the fact they have these sliding doors in place, this regulation is going to likely create the effect if it's wrong to be displaying them and selling them then younger people may want them.

However, the ASDA store where I am, also has hidden smoking related items like lighters etc, which is even more bonkers.

I have rarely seen queues like I have over recent weeks at the cigarette counters there, furthermore since cigarettes went up in the budget, people seem to be buying packs of 100s or 200s to save a bit of the rise in price.

Incredible that smokers are being inconvenienced for this daft Govt ruling, but alcohol in Stores is just about poured down your throat,with displays all over from entering the store and even displays at the top of the confectionery aisles too.
Alcohol can do as much if not worse harm to the body as cigarettes,yet children see adults piling alcohol into trollies juslt like its general shopping.

Total hypocrisy from a far more interfering Govt than the last one even was now. I don't smoke,never have, never will, I however think this is pathetic.

Should people stop smoking or cut down bigtime then the Govt would be in panic at the lost massive income it gets from cigarettes and tobacco.
Watching the staff having to slide these panels backwards and forwards with a queue of something like 20+ people waiting to be served is something I wouldn't expect to see in Stores supposedly open for business.

Bonkers, is the only appropriate word for this ruling by this now fast becoming totally incompetent/too interfering coalition Govt.


I am also a none smoker and would love to see the end of people being ridiculous by impersonating a walking chimny pot and potentially slowly killing themselves and others.

However I agree governments of all shades not just this mad coalition mob aproach to smoking is as you say "bonkers" and hypocritical.

Hiding them behind closed doors and then having in huge letters the name of the product behind those closed doors is hardly hiding them from view. bonkers bonkers and bonkers again. Can't say it too many times.

If smoking is so dangerous (and it is) (yet its legal) Then the product as a whole should be banned from being sold and manufactured.......Addicts should get it on prescription only while being treated for the addiction.

Its claimed the government would lose out on tax revenue. Yea but look what they would save on the health service and people would still spend their mony on other taxable items along with more money being used to buy goods and encourage growth instead of money being burned on smoking cancer sticks.

As a nation I think we would be better off if smoking was no more in many more ways than one.

Same with drug takers sqandering money on false personality creating chemistry and in turn supporting terrorists and criminals in their evil activities.....

[Jords]

It wont stop anything, let people smoke if they want to, like drink.

[MTVN]

I've still seen cigarettes on show in the last few shops I've been in, what's actually the exact details for this ban?

-has not read thread-

[Ammi]

I've still seen cigarettes on show in the last few shops I've been in, what's actually the exact details for this ban?

-has not read thread-

..I thought it was meant to come into effect last Friday..but maybe they allow a certain amount of time for the changeover

[MTVN]

Hmm maybe, maybe

[Shaun]

Oh I noticed this the other day, I just went to Tesco late so I assumed they were closing up :laugh:

It does seem to nullify the amount of daftly exaggerated health warnings they put on the packet :conf2: Hiding them completely is just going to heighten the taboo about them, and if there's one thing teens love doing it's shattering taboos :whistle:

[arista]

Oh I noticed this the other day, I just went to Tesco late so I assumed they were closing up :laugh:

It does seem to nullify the amount of daftly exaggerated health warnings they put on the packet :conf2: Hiding them completely is just going to heighten the taboo about them, and if there's one thing teens love doing it's shattering taboos :whistle:


It Works
in Canada.

Its clever as all the tots never see them.

Its not for the (Current Walking Dead) Smokers
its for our Future Kids


Shaun think Bigger.


Feel The Force.