Woman jailed for 14 months after crying rape

[InOne]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132067/John-Lewis-assistant-cried-rape-embarassed-kinky-sex-session-jailed-advertising-online-bondage-dominatrix.html


Vile woman, must be every guys worst nightmare.

[michael21]

i was just going to make a thread on this


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4267817/BDSM-woman-jailed-brafter-crying-rape.html

[Omah]

No doubt she'll be the subject of real BDSM while she's banged up in the slammer ..... :cool:

[Marsh.]

Slut.

[Jake.]

Should be for longer.... disgusting.

[Pyramid*]

I have been saying this for donkeys years. Women (and men) who accuse others of rape when it is a lie and utter fabrication: should be named, shamed and jailed.

I for one am glad to hear this.

These idiots have no idea of the damage that it causes - the untrue gossip mongering alone is enough to tarnish an innocent person for life -it can destroy even the most stongest of people / their familes/ relationships and friendships.....and it's a disgrace that any person should ever be put in this position.

[Tom4784]

She should be jailed for as long as a rapist would be, crying rape can destroy lives and even if it's proven false the victim's image will always be tarnished by it.

[Pyramid*]

She should be jailed for as long as a rapist would be, crying rape can destroy lives and even if it's proven false the victim's image will always be tarnished by it.

for once we are in total agreement Dezzy. I share the same view 100%.

[MTVN]

I think the trauma of actually being raped is a bit worse than the trauma of just being accused of it tbh

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah MTVN but how many friends will this guy keep now after this bitch just accused him of raping her? even though it isn't true it will tarnish his image for the rest of his life.

[Pyramid*]

I think the trauma of actually being raped is a bit worse than the trauma of just being accused of it tbh


I'd say that all things being equal: the accusation is as equally damaging in all manner of ways.

Not having been raped, or accused myself - I can't answer on a personal level but I know a man who was wrongfully accused and I know of a female friend who was raped - and both still have never recovered fully - but the effects on the man were far wider reaching - with far less sympathy for him: he was engaged to be married at the time. These people were 21 and 16. The guy tried to take his own life. The woman didn't. So who knows unless we're in that positon on a personal level.

[Livia]

A travesty for the man wrongly accused, and an insult to every woman who has ever been raped.

[Pyramid*]

A travesty for the man wrongly accused, and an insult to every woman who has ever been raped.


An even worse insult to women who have been raped: with their rapist being let off. That must be one of the most hellish things ever to have to experience.

[bbfan1991]

A travesty for the man wrongly accused, and an insult to every woman who has ever been raped.

I agree, this woman deserves condemnation for lying and the man deserves justice for being wrongly accused, although for those women telling the truth about being raped it leaves them more terrified about coming clean because they think they will not be believed and plus there is the accused representation wanting to try and prove the accusations wrong, lots of pressure and emotional stress.

[arista]

Slut.


"John Lewis assistant, 21,"



And she had a great future.
But went to be a Criminal Sex Slut

[Brother Leon]

I know this is common in the lower age group, but cmon. Grow up ffs Woman.

[GypsyGoth]

"John Lewis assistant, 21,"



And she had a great future.
But went to be a Criminal Sex Slut

:laugh2:

[joeysteele]

She should be jailed for as long as a rapist would be, crying rape can destroy lives and even if it's proven false the victim's image will always be tarnished by it.

100% correct Dezzy, this is the other side of the coin and it is also the reason some women get treated with suspicion as to rape allegations because of women like this who tell blatant lies.

Men get their names usually splashed all over the pages of papers when accused of rape and it's good to see real justice being dished out to this liar, however as you point out rightly, the sentence should have been far harsher.

[thesheriff443]

casual sex comes with many risks for men and women
her sentence was for telling lies
if you sleep with strangers your taking a risk

[Mrluvaluva]

People like this who cry wolf sicken me. They actually make things harder for people who have been genuinely assaulted.

[King Gizzard]

Bet this happens alot more, and there's probably men locked up for it as well

[Mystic Mock]

This woman is stupid for one other thing aswell, if she genuinely gets raped now then nobody is going to believe her.

[Brother Leon]

Bet this happens alot more, and there's probably men locked up for it as well

You would be surprised the amount of girls who cry rape in their teen years....it's scary tbh when you think of the power they could possibly have over the man.

[Ammi]

..Silly, silly girl
..well she's got her bondage now

[Jords]

Sick bitch :bored:

[joeysteele]

Bet this happens alot more, and there's probably men locked up for it as well

Absolutely,as you say there will also be men serving time for something not committed too, those accused of rape often spend a fair time kept on remand too while waiting for a trial then the charges being dropped when the accuser was found to be lying, with no apology given to the guy either,even after he has had his name in the papers too.

which in my view means this woman should have had the book thrown at her for inventing this.

[thesheriff443]

when you think of rape its of a man rapeing a women.
there are cases where women make up rape alligations for one reason or another,
all rape alligations need to be investigated.
what needs to change is the fact that a mans details are made public
if the police feel that he is a serious risk than he should be kept on remand until his trial.
this crime cuts both ways there are women that have been raped gone to trial only to see their attacker go free.


but its in part the news papers fault beacuse they print rape alligations on the front page to sell papers most recent, dane bowers

[Marc]

:bored:

[thesheriff443]

:bored:

if you have got nothing to say dont say anything:nono:

[Niamh.]

She should be jailed for as long as a rapist would be, crying rape can destroy lives and even if it's proven false the victim's image will always be tarnished by it.

Exactly, as in this case, the man had to leave his job and now everyone knows intimate details of his sex life as well.

[thesheriff443]

this thread is strange in that women feel so strongly that she should get more prison time.
if the law was changed then at least his name and details would remain private unless he was found guilty.

[Niamh.]

this thread is strange in that women feel so strongly that she should get more prison time.
if the law was changed then at least his name and details would remain private unless he was found guilty.

Why would you think that's strange? Rape is a horrendous crime, really horrible and women who cry rape falsely, make it more difficult for genuine victims and also, I can imagine it must be a really terrible thing for a man to be wrongly accused like that, it could ruin his whole life even if he's proved innocent. Women like that give genuine women a bad name.

[thesheriff443]

i dont see it like that
each case is different and you cant just throw it in one pot
her sentence was for lieing about being raped which is bad but it happens,
if you sleep with strangers you are taking a risk
if the law was changed then maybe his life and others would not be ruined,
you cant say just beacuse one women lied every other rape case will be viewed the same.

[Niamh.]

i dont see it like that
each case is different and you cant just throw it in one pot
her sentence was for lieing about being raped which is bad but it happens,
if you sleep with strangers you are taking a risk
if the law was changed then maybe his life and others would not be ruined,
you cant say just beacuse one women lied every other rape case will be viewed the same.

Well, a person is either raped or they consented, I don't think there's an in between there.

I do agree that people should not be named while the alleged crime is being investigated though.

[InOne]

They need to get that law sorted where the person who is accused name isn't given to the public until they've been convicted

[Vanessa]

This kind of news make me really mad! Has this woman got no shame?

[Jack_]

They need to get that law sorted where the person who is accused name isn't given to the public until they've been convicted

I concur.

Though The Sun would go into meltdown. They shift copies off the back of inciting hatred upon accused pedophiles and rapists.

[lostalex]

she was actually raped, she just retracted it because she wanted to protect her abuser. it's classic stockholm syndrome.

it's disgusting that people are demonizing her when infact she is actually a rape victim, she's just so brainwashed that she's protecting her rapist. cases like this are very common.

[Pyramid*]

she was actually raped, she just retracted it because she wanted to protect her abuser. it's classic stockholm syndrome.

it's disgusting that people are demonizing her when infact she is actually a rape victim, she's just so brainwashed that she's protecting her rapist. cases like this are very common.

Of course.

Why didn't we all think of this.

*thumps forehead with heel of hand*

[joeysteele]

she was actually raped, she just retracted it because she wanted to protect her abuser. it's classic stockholm syndrome.

it's disgusting that people are demonizing her when infact she is actually a rape victim, she's just so brainwashed that she's protecting her rapist. cases like this are very common.

I can't personally go along with this,if that is the case two wrongs don't make a right, she cannot be given credit for protecting someone who raped her while setting out to destroy the life of some innocent guy who didn't.

I think setting out to do that to someone,whether temporarily or seeing it through to the end, warrants some demonizing of her actions.

[michael21]

when she get out will she be on clebb bb :suspect:

[InOne]

she was actually raped, she just retracted it because she wanted to protect her abuser. it's classic stockholm syndrome.

it's disgusting that people are demonizing her when infact she is actually a rape victim, she's just so brainwashed that she's protecting her rapist. cases like this are very common.

Absolute rubbish.

[Redway]

Sket.

[Redway]

she was actually raped, she just retracted it because she wanted to protect her abuser. it's classic stockholm syndrome.

it's disgusting that people are demonizing her when infact she is actually a rape victim, she's just so brainwashed that she's protecting her rapist. cases like this are very common.

Right, so she protected her "rapist" by reporting him to the police and making rape claims about him - which were proven to be false by people professionally trained in that field? All right, then. Now, look, I'm not at all saying this to be rude, but your argument here contains loads of flaws. All you ever did here was make claims, without offering any form of substantiation whatsoever and cleary ignoring what's actually been reported in the article.

[MTVN]

Yeah she didn't retract her accusation, the police spent £14,000 and 376 hours investigating it before it became clear she was lying

It was only later that the police discovered an online exchange between the suspect and Sowden and realised that she had been lying.

[Brother Leon]

Good trolling brah.

[lostalex]

You all are soo off the mark. False rape accusations are INCREDIBLY rare. ACTUAL rape is incredibly common. Actual rape CONVICTIONS are also incredibly rare.

[Redway]

You all are soo off the mark. False rape accusations are INCREDIBLY rare. ACTUAL rape is incredibly common. Actual rape CONVICTIONS are also incredibly rare.

So? I'm sorry but I fail to see your point. No one's debating that false rape accusations are incredibly rare (although, yet again, if you haven't any valid proof, that's not a fact, but that's not the context of our discussion right now); rather, I don't agree with your ridiculous idea that this incident doesn't fit in that category. If she was a genuine rape victim, why would she just go with the flow? Don't you think she wouldn't rest until justice was served? She cheated on her boyfriend and agreed to meet up with a guy she hadn't seen before and you want me to feel sorry for her? Was she being raped when she went onto a chatroom? Was she forced? True, she regretted it in the end, but she then went onto making up false accusations about a guy she started a fling with. Surely, this should tell you that she's a stupid bitch and deserves no sympathy.

[lostalex]

So? I'm sorry but I fail to see your point. No one's debating that false rape accusations are incredibly rare (although, yet again, if you haven't any valid proof, that's not a fact, but that's not the context of our discussion right now); rather, I don't agree with your ridiculous idea that this incident doesn't fit in that category. If she was a genuine rape victim, why would she just go with the flow? Don't you think she wouldn't rest until justice was served? She cheated on her boyfriend and agreed to meet up with a guy she hadn't seen before and you want me to feel sorry for her? Was she being raped when she went onto a chatroom? Was she forced? True, she regretted it in the end, but she then went onto making up false accusations about a guy she started a fling with. Surely, this should tell you that she's a stupid bitch and deserves no sympathy.

umm, a woman or man has the right to say NO at any point. just because you agree to sex at first does not mean that he can do anything to you he likes, she can say NO at any point, and it is still just as much rape. ANY unwanted sex is rape, just because you agree to sex at first does not mean you cannot say STOP whenever you want to.

[Niamh.]

umm, a woman or man has the right to say NO at any point. just because you agree to sex at first does not mean that he can do anything to you he likes, she can say NO at any point, and it is still just as much rape. ANY unwanted sex is rape, just because you agree to sex at first does not mean you cannot say STOP whenever you want to.

That's all very true but it doesn't apply in this case. She made up a story that he attacked her on her way home from the gym which has been proven un true by the Police.

[lostalex]

That's all very true but it doesn't apply in this case. She made up a story that he attacked her on her way home from the gym which has been proven un true by the Police.

are we talking about the case of the 2 footballers? i'm confused.

[Niamh.]

are we talking about the case of the 2 footballers? i'm confused.

no lol, that's a different thread :laugh:

[lostalex]

no lol, that's a different thread :laugh:

oh.. well i'm not familiar with the case we are talking about then, but everything i said i stand by in principle!

[Niamh.]

oh.. well i'm not familiar with the case we are talking about then, but everything i said i stand by in principle!


Here's the link to the story

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132067/John-Lewis-assistant-cried-rape-embarassed-kinky-sex-session-jailed-advertising-online-bondage-dominatrix.html

[MTVN]

You could just read the OP in threads :laugh:

[lostalex]

the comments on that daily mail website link are DISGUSTING

[Niall]

Stupid bitch. :bored:

[Redway]

umm, a woman or man has the right to say NO at any point. just because you agree to sex at first does not mean that he can do anything to you he likes, she can say NO at any point, and it is still just as much rape. ANY unwanted sex is rape, just because you agree to sex at first does not mean you cannot say STOP whenever you want to.

It wasn't unwanted, though. She didn't say no at any point, did she? The only reason she ever made those accusations was because she felt guilty for cheating on her boyfriend, and it was proved to be false by the police. I'm not saying everything the police do is right, but they have far more experience than you. If they're not defending her, why are you? How can you be so sure she was raped when everything points to the opposite?

[Me. I Am Salman]

the comments on that daily mail website link are DISGUSTING

I think they're quite funny
WOWH!! must go shopping at john lewis in future..........Hot Staff

:laugh:

[Z]

I hate women like this, I remember a fair few drama queens at school thinking it was cool to go around claiming they'd been raped while they were on holiday, that kind of thing. Real victims do not go around bragging about what happened to them, there is a long period of fear and solitude long before the signs of recovery, if they come at all, start to appear. I hope she's ashamed of herself for dragging that poor man through all of this, and for what she did to her boyfriend too.

[Mystic Mock]

We're all saying about she gives genuine women rape victims a bad name but what about giving genuine men victims a bad name? even though it's extremely rare it still exists where another guy or a woman rapes the guy victim.

She has potentially made things even harder for there justice to happen now and it's wrong.

[Redway]

the comments on that daily mail website link are DISGUSTING

No, she's the disgusting one, making up lies about people, sleeping around like the bleeding, lying, hard-faced bitch of a sket she is. I'm not spelling it out for you - you know fully well that's wrong and if you don't reply this I will assume that you bleeding well know I'm right, 'cause I am.

Furthermore, what's also disgusting is the fact that you think you can defend that bitch, so I thought I'd let you know, in case you were unaware of how ridiciculous that view is. Let's have a look at ths facts, shall we?:

1. She cheated on her boyfriend by going on an internet forum. (Can you see any faithfulness in that? Don't you have any sympathy for the guy at all?)
2. She was supposed to be trying for a baby with her boyfriend. (Makes it even more despicable.)
3. She agreed to meet him.
4. They had sexual intercourse - and very graphic sex playing bashed in there as well.
5. The only time she felt guilty was when she'd done all the deeds and remembered her boyfriend.
6. Because she felt guilty, she made up lies about the incident - according to a dictionary, rape is: an act of sexual intercourse wherein the victim is unwilling. Right, when was she unwilling? She went on a chat room, indicating very clearly she wanted sex; she met up eith the guy and she had sex with him. Here, the ONLY qualifying factor is that she felt guilty afterwards (but who wouldn't?), but that doesn't mean she was raped. I'm not wasting my time, lostalex. WHAT do you think I'm sitting here for?
7. She was proved to be lying in the beginning, by people trained in this profession. Why on EARTH are you defending her when it's an OBVIOUS FACT that she's lying?
8. She herself admitted making up nonsense - WHAT does that tell you? I really want to know the reasoning behind this ridiculous, crappy idea when bloody EVERYTHING works to her disadvantage?

Can you explain all that? Because ALL you've done is say the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER again, without any form WHATSOEVER of substantiation. Can you challenge these points? Becauze you're always doing this and so many people are behind me on this, let me tell you. If you don't reply, I've won this argument., I'm afraid.

[joeysteele]

No, she's the disgusting one, making up lies about people, sleeping around like the bleeding, lying, hard-faced bitch of a sket she is. I'm not spelling it out for you - you know fully well that's wrong and if you don't reply this I will assume that you bleeding well know I'm right, 'cause I am.

Furthermore, what's also disgusting is the fact that you think you can defend that bitch, so I thought I'd let you know, in case you were unaware of how ridiciculous that view is. Let's have a look at ths facts, shall we?:

1. She cheated on her boyfriend by going on an internet forum. (Can you see any faithfulness in that? Don't you have any sympathy for the guy at all?)
2. She was supposed to be trying for a baby with her boyfriend. (Makes it even more despicable.)
3. She agreed to meet him.
4. They had sexual intercourse - and very graphic sex playing bashed in there as well.
5. The only time she felt guilty was when she'd done all the deeds and remembered her boyfriend.
6. Because she felt guilty, she made up lies about the incident - according to a dictionary, rape is: an act of sexual intercourse wherein the victim is unwilling. Right, when was she unwilling? She went on a chat room, indicating very clearly she wanted sex; she met up eith the guy and she had sex with him. Here, the ONLY qualifying factor is that she felt guilty afterwards (but who wouldn't?), but that doesn't mean she was raped. I'm not wasting my time, lostalex. WHAT do you think I'm sitting here for?
7. She was proved to be lying in the beginning, by people trained in this profession. Why on EARTH are you defending her when it's an OBVIOUS FACT that she's lying?
8. She herself admitted making up nonsense - WHAT does that tell you? I really want to know the reasoning behind this ridiculous, crappy idea when bloody EVERYTHING works to her disadvantage?

Can you explain all that? Because ALL you've done is say the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER again, without any form WHATSOEVER of substantiation. Can you challenge these points? Becauze you're always doing this and so many people are behind me on this, let me tell you. If you don't reply, I've won this argument., I'm afraid.

Really excellent post Redway, well said.

[Redway]

Really excellent post Redway, well said.

Thanks, Joey. :)

[Kizzy]

I am with you from 4 onwards...

[hennessy]

My mate was accused of rape by a girl who fancied him but didn't get the attention in return (he was married), the police banned him from his house and kids while they investigated, it took 5 months.
I knew he didn't do it because he was with me at the time but the police didn't believe us, she only got caught when he recorded a phone call she made to him.
He hasn't been able to get a job since.
Some claims stay on your crb record http://richardbaum.mycouncillor.org.uk/2009/01/29/another-heartbreaking-story-about-false-allegations-on-crb-disclosures-surely-theres-a-big-injustice-here/


This woman only got off with an £80 fine
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369536/Fury-woman-cried-rape-sparking-major-police-hunt-handed-80-penalty-notice.html

Another £80 fine
http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/8805882.Woman_fined_over_false_Warminster_rape_cla im/

and also did you know that woman who falsely claim rape can try to get compensation?
No win no fee and you can get up to £500,000
http://www.avirt.co.uk/rape.html

oh and btw it's not that uncommon
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120216204551AAq5Lp1

And thankfully conviction aren't that rare, it's around 58%....more than most crimes (not bad for mostly he said-she said cases)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/19/myths-about-rape-conviction-rates?cat=commentisfree&type=article
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/813681-rape-juries-conviction-more-likely

[Jamie.]

:bored:

[lostalex]

Absolutely disgusting the misogyny on this web site, calling her bitch and slut and various other sexist terms. Absolutely vile. Is this TiBB or the Daily Mail comments section??

FUnny i've never seen anyone on this forum get this upset about ACTUAL RAPISTS who are far more common than false rape accusations.

[Pyramid*]

Absolutely disgusting the misogyny on this web site, calling her bitch and slut and various other sexist terms. Absolutely vile. Is this TiBB or the Daily Mail comments section??

FUnny i've never seen anyone on this forum get this upset about ACTUAL RAPISTS who are far more common than false rape accusations.


It's a public forum. If you find Tibb all so disgusting, no one is forcing you to log on, or read the threads - regardless of the source of stories in the threads.

[InOne]

Absolutely disgusting the misogyny on this web site, calling her bitch and slut and various other sexist terms. Absolutely vile. Is this TiBB or the Daily Mail comments section??

FUnny i've never seen anyone on this forum get this upset about ACTUAL RAPISTS who are far more common than false rape accusations.

Oh really? So you've missed all the threads where people have graphically described how they'd kill rapists, paedos, murderers ect. Used to be a weekly thing on here.

[lostalex]

Oh really? So you've missed all the threads where people have graphically described how they'd kill rapists, paedos, murderers ect. Used to be a weekly thing on here.

well i don't think sexist terms are appropriate for the actions of ONE person who happens to be female.

If this was a black person, would it be appropriate to use racist slurs?

[lostalex]

It's a public forum. If you find Tibb all so disgusting, no one is forcing you to log on, or read the threads - regardless of the source of stories in the threads.

are you joking? What kind of logic is this? You remind me of those republicans that say "if you don't like it, then move to another country!"

[InOne]

well i don't think sexist terms are appropriate for the actions of ONE person who happens to be female.

If this was a black person, would it be appropriate to use racist slurs?

I think the real meaning has been taken out of most of those words really. They seem to be just used as random insults now and don't connote anything too deep.

[Pyramid*]

well i don't think sexist terms are appropriate for the actions of ONE person who happens to be female.

If this was a black person, would it be appropriate to use racist slurs?

FGS Man get off your soap box. If you aren't accusing people on here of being racist, you accuse them of being bigoted, homophobic, sexist, prejudiced, and now you are branding people misogynists.

It's very boring and all it does it derail threads, but I get the feeling that's your very intention.

This is about a woman who falsely cried rape, of how such a false accusation can and does stay with an innocent man - and what fms think about it. They are entitled to voice their views without you insulting them.

[Pyramid*]

are you joking? What kind of logic is this? You remind me of those republicans that say "if you don't like it, then move to another country!"


Yep, that's precisely what I'm saying. Well spotted.

[Vicky.]

Should have got the same sentence the accused would have got had he been convicted.

[Pyramid*]

Should have got the same sentence the accused would have got had he been convicted.

I agree.

[Livia]

The judge described her as "a highly intelligent, well-educated young woman". She framed an innocent bloke she'd willingly had sex with and didn't think for one minute about the trail of email and other electronic exchanges that would show her to be the liar and the fraud that she is. Yeah, she's a real genius.

I hope he takes up a civil case against her now and sues her for as much as he can get.

[joeysteele]

Should have got the same sentence the accused would have got had he been convicted.

I totally agree with you on that too Vicky.

[Redway]

well i don't think sexist terms are appropriate for the actions of ONE person who happens to be female.

If this was a black person, would it be appropriate to use racist slurs?

To be honest, Alex, I honestly don't know what your problem is. I gave a very well-argued case, to which, by the way, you didn't even reply. I just find it very sad and patheic that you have to resort to throwing abuse at me for being sexist, as Pyramid says. How can I be sexist when I have a mum and a girlfriend? All I said about the woman wasn't intended to be sexist - stop taking things out of context and looking for an argument, because if you're looking for an argument I'll give you one and you will probably look for some sort of label to throw at me to cover up why you couldn't reply the rest of my post. I haven't been given and infraction or warning or ban, so if the moderators (rightly) didn't take offense to it, why are you? Anyway, wasted enough time on you. Get out of my face, please.