children increase use of PORN

[waterhog]

this was in the news a few days back - and i think the whole reason is because it is all at our fingertips - surely there must be a way to block this ? or is it something we have to learn to live with ?

PornWorld

i am not surprised,
this is not complex,
the only way of selling anything,
is pure sex.
from teeny poppers music,
even drinks have a link,
we live in a sexual society,
no time to blink.
it starts at school,
they have to be in fashion,
all the brand names,
from cool to hip to love and passion.
teenage years are impressionable,
its not helped by "Maddona" aka "Madge",
this old trollop in a bikini,
putting her legs behind her head showing her badge.
now the biggest factor,
which has made porn explode,
because everything is at your key,
Technology dose have no safe mode.
from phones to cameras,
sex, lady's, men, its all for let,
i do believe there is a solution,
someone take my poem and shut off the internet.

[Marsh.]

You know you love it...

The porn not the children.

[lostalex]

if i had a computer in my room when i was going thru puberty, i'd never leave my room, and i'd be watching nothing but porn.

also i think porn is more hardcore then it ever was before. most porn now is very abusive towards women.

when i was a kid i used to draw my own porn lol. literally drew pictures and jerked off to it.

if i ever have kids they won't get to see the internet til they are atleast 16.

i wouldn't want my children learning sexuality from porn on the internet. it's so abusive towards women. they will think that it's okay to be abusive in sex. and girls think that it's okay for a man to abuse you. I'll teach my daughters that sex is about YOU getting pleasure, not letting men do whatever they want, which is what porn teaches them. Porn is all about men's fantasies. where do they get to see women's fantasies??

I won't let my daughters anywhere near a computer.

[Scarlett.]

Why don't parents use their brain and put computers in the living room?

[Pyramid*]

if i had a computer in my room when i was going thru puberty, i'd never leave my room, and i'd be watching nothing but porn.

also i think porn is more hardcore then it ever was before. most porn now is very abusive towards women.

when i was a kid i used to draw my own porn lol. literally drew pictures and jerked off to it.

if i ever have kids they won't get to see the internet til they are atleast 16.

i wouldn't want my children learning sexuality from porn on the internet. it's so abusive towards women. they will think that it's okay to be abusive in sex. and girls think that it's okay for a man to abuse you. I'll teach my daughters that sex is about YOU getting pleasure, not letting men do whatever they want, which is what porn teaches them. Porn is all about men's fantasies. where do they get to see women's fantasies??

I won't let my daughters anywhere near a computer.

That's quite some psychic ability you have there!

We all grew up interested in sex and giggling over the porno mags when someone got their hands on them but I do agree that it is far too explicit, far too hardcore and unfortunately because it is so easily accessible: it does give out the wrong image to 'many' - ie: the perfect body, the implants, that taping people having sex is fine - so many downsides to it.

[Pyramid*]

Why don't parents use their brain and put computers in the living room?

Many do to be fair - but many are happy with the teens out of the way in their bedrooms - and lets be honest: the teens are happy with that too most of the time - they need their personal space. It's how to restrict it that's the problem.

[lostalex]

That's quite some psychic ability you have there!

We all grew up interested in sex and giggling over the porno mags when someone got their hands on them but I do agree that it is far too explicit, far too hardcore and unfortunately because it is so easily accessible: it does give out the wrong image to 'many' - ie: the perfect body, the implants, that taping people having sex is fine - so many downsides to it.


and porn is almost 100% from a man's point of view. There is no porn that represents healthy FEMALE sexuality. all of the porn is male made and male controlled and makes women just a sexual object.

where is the porn for women that shows a healthy expression of women enjoying sex? most porn now just makes women a sex toy for boys. I don't want my daughter to think that she is just a sex toy to make boys feel good.

She needs to know that sex is for HER to enjoy, and her enjoying it is more important than a horny BOY enjoying it. The vast majority of porn is about men USUING women like a sex doll. it has no respect for women at all. and it makes it look like the more aggressive then women should just TAKE it and enjoy it.

I'm not gonna let my daughter be exposed to that kind of propaganda.

[Jesus.]

I think it's perfectly natural that people are accessing porn from a younger age. I'd have been doing the same thing.

In Amsterdam, there are hardcore images in the windows of cinema's, and all over the place, but the Dutch haven't had issues with deviance among it's population, whilst we were being all prudish.

[lostalex]

I think it's perfectly natural that people are accessing porn from a younger age. I'd have been doing the same thing.

In Amsterdam, there are hardcore images in the windows of cinema's, and all over the place, but the Dutch haven't had issues with deviance among it's population, whilst we were being all prudish.

but women are still unequal in dutch society, right??

and you don't think that treating women like sex toys has anything to do with that???

[Pyramid*]

I think it's perfectly natural that people are accessing porn from a younger age. I'd have been doing the same thing.

In Amsterdam, there are hardcore images in the windows of cinema's, and all over the place, but the Dutch haven't had issues with deviance among it's population, whilst we were being all prudish.


Please don't speak for everyone, you aren't speaking for me - I'm no prude at all, I do have an opinion on this that doesn't match yours.

That doesn't make me prudish. It makes me consider all angles as far as my own moral compass dictates.

[Pyramid*]

and porn is almost 100% from a man's point of view. There is no porn that represents healthy FEMALE sexuality. all of the porn is male made and male controlled and makes women just a sexual object.

where is the porn for women that shows a healthy expression of women enjoying sex? most porn now just makes women a sex toy for boys. I don't want my daughter to think that she is just a sex toy to make boys feel good.

She needs to know that sex is for HER to enjoy, and her enjoying it is more important than a horny BOY enjoying it. The vast majority of porn is about men USUING women like a sex doll. it has no respect for women at all. and it makes it look like the more aggressive then women should just TAKE it and enjoy it.

I'm not gonna let my daughter be exposed to that kind of propaganda.

You do realise that women enjoy sex too.

Many women enjoy porn and quite rightly too.

[Jesus.]

but women are still unequal in dutch society, right??

and you don't think that treating women like sex toys has anything to do with that???

Women are equal in Dutch society.

But if they weren't I don't believe that porn would be in any way responsible for that. I'd look at history, religion and superstition first.

[Jesus.]

You do realise that women enjoy sex too.

Many women enjoy porn and quite rightly too.

Not with me, they don't.

[lostalex]

You do realise that women enjoy sex too.

Many women enjoy porn and quite rightly too.

yes, but the vast majority of women don't enjoy sex the 3ay it's portrayed in porn. porn makes it looks like rape most times.

that's why i pointed out that porn portrays a false view of sex, and it will make girls think that the sex portrayed in porn is normal, when in fact it's not normalk..

Most girls don't want aggressive sex that hurts. but if you only watch porn, you would think that all girls want to be raped.

wqhere is the porn that portrays what girls fantasize about?
'
do yu think girls fantasize about some fat gross old idiot raping them while they are babysitting the neighbors kids???

porn does not represent healthy sexuality, it represents nasty old pervert male fantasies.

[lostalex]

Not with me, they don't.

thank yu for proving my point... ugh

[Pyramid*]

yes, but the vast majority of women don't enjoy sex the 3ay it's portrayed in porn. porn makes it looks like rape most times.

that's why i pointed out that porn portrays a false view of sex, and it will make girls think that the sex portrayed in porn is normal, when in fact it's not normalk..

Most girls don't want aggressive sex that hurts. but if you only watch porn, you would think that all girls want to be raped.

wqhere is the porn that portrays what girls fantasize about?
'
do yu think girls fantasize about some fat gross old idiot raping them while they are babysitting the neighbors kids???

porn does not represent healthy sexuality, it represents nasty old pervert male fantasies.

How many women have you slept with that you are able to make such an assertion?

I feel you are working on an assumption. Porn movies come in all forms of gendre - from abusive, loving, fun, hardcore - depending on the type of market the porn movie is being targetted at.

Porn movies - most women porn actors chose that by their own volition. They are paid good money for it. It is an acting role and one in which some do, and some don't, enjoy the sexual act.

Not all porn is M-F. I suspect you don't have that much knowledge in relating to how some/many women do (and many do) enjoy sex: of varying degrees, on various levels.

Perhaps you would have to actually experience a liberated, confident women's sexual activity / life - for you to really be in more of a position to comment on how some/many women themselves feel about sex / the type of sex they like / and why.

It is natural for children to want to know more as they enter puberty: that's life.

[Pyramid*]

Not with me, they don't.

I am sure there is good reason for it - though this thread isn't discussion personal sex lives: it's about children accessing porn on the internet.

[lostalex]

How many women have you slept with that you are able to make such an assertion?

I feel you are working on an assumption. Porn movies come in all forms of gendre - from abusive, loving, fun, hardcore - depending on the type of market the porn movie is being targetted at.

Porn movies - most women porn actors chose that by their own volition. They are paid good money for it. It is an acting role and one in which some do, and some don't, enjoy the sexual act.

Not all porn is M-F. I suspect you don't have that much knowledge in relating to how some/many women do (and many do) enjoy sex: of varying degrees, on various levels.

Perhaps you would have to actually experience a liberated, confident women's sexual activity / life - for you to really be in more of a position to comment on how some/many women themselves feel about sex / the type of sex they like / and why.

It is natural for children to want to know more as they enter puberty: that's life.


and this is the problem. you think that porn's representation is normal. you are justifying it now. just because some women like rough sex you think a;ll women shoukld like it??

i'm sorry, but you are wrong, and you are proving exactly what i am saying. you've watched so much porn that now you think that that type of sex IS normal.

thank you proving my point.

[Jesus.]

thank yu for proving my point... ugh

It's called self deprecating humor.

[lostalex]

It's called self deprecating humor.

sorry this isn;'t the humour debates thread, i'm pretty sure it's the serious version.

[Pyramid*]

and this is the problem. you think that porn's representation is normal. you are justifying it now. just because some women like rough sex you think a;ll women shoukld like it??

i'm sorry, but you are wrong, and you are proving exactly what i am saying. you've watched so much porn that now you think that that type of sex IS normal.

thank you proving my point.

when you start typing some sense: I'll start considering a sensible response.

[lostalex]

when you start typing some sense: I'll start considering a sensible response.

ummm, sorry, do you need time to translate it? is english not your first language?

[Jords]

I thought it was basic knowledge that porn is nothing like the norm.

[Pyramid*]

ummm, sorry, do you need time to translate it? is english not your first language?


PMSL. The irony.

*thinks to self*

What has this to do with the topic? Are you unable to stay on topic - you know the one that was discussing children access to porn?

[lostalex]

PMSL. The irony.

*thinks to self*

What has this to do with the topic? Are you unable to stay on topic - you know the one that was discussing children access to porn?

yes, about how children should not watch porn because it presents an unrealistic abusive male notion of sexuality. i know what we are talking about./ you are the one that seems out of touch...

scroll up dude.

[Pyramid*]

yes, about how children should not watch porn because it presents an unrealistic abusive male notion of sexuality. i know what we are talking about./ you are the one that seems out of touch...

Who said it was restricted only to the male notion? Only you.

Think outside your box lostalex. The world is a big, big place.

[lostalex]

Who said it was restricted only to the male notion? Only you.

Think outside your box lostalex. The world is a big, big place.

i' talking about porn in general. you obviously must not be familiar with it, watch some modern porn and get back to me...

it's hard to find porn lately where a women doesn't receieve anal sex. do most women do anal?? no, but if you only watched porn you'd think all women get F'ed in the ass. i certainly wouldn't want my daughter thinking it was normal for her to get F-ed in the ASS just because of porn.

[Pyramid*]

i' talking about porn in general. you obviously must not be familiar with it, watch some modern porn and get back to me...

it's hard to find porn lately where a women doesn't receieve anal sex. do most women do anal?? no, but if you only watched porn you'd think all women get F'ed in the ass. i certainly wouldn't want my daughter thinking it was normal for her to get F-ed in the ASS just because of porn.


I suggest you sleep with a few, and come back when you have experience in the real world as far as male to female sex and female to female sex is concerned.

[lostalex]

I suggest you sleep with a few, and come back when you have experience in the real world as far as male to female sex and female to female sex is concerned.

so you think women should behave like women in porn movies? I'm going to be teaching my daughters that they should do what feels good to them, not do the degrading shiut that porn stars do for CASH> Porn is horribly degrading and abusive towards women.

[Pyramid*]

so you think women should behave like women in porn movies? I'm going to be teaching my daughters that they should do what feels good to them, not do the degrading shiut that porn stars do for CASH> if you think what is shown in porn is NORMAL then you have serious issues man. Porn is horribly degrading and abusive towards women. if you think that is normal thewn you are a siock bastard.

I think you need to take a long lie down in a very dark room. That's what I think.

[lostalex]

I think you need to take a long lie down in a very dark room. That's what I think.

and i think one day karma is gonna bite you in the ass if you think porn is normal. That's what I think.

[Pyramid*]

and i think one day karma is gonna bite you in the ass if you think porn is normal.

Yep I think porn is normal. Hang me.

The restriction as far as the internet and young children is another matter - you know - the one that is MEANT to be what is being discussed.

It's hard for you to focus on that - clearly.

[MTVN]

Deleted a couple of posts, keep it civil

[Pyramid*]

if you think porn is normal in a sexual relationship, then yes, you must be alone, because if you actually had any healthy relationships you would know better.


Yes, normal adult healthy sexual relationship never benefit from porn.:rolleyes:

What does that have to do with children ..... ? Where I live, you know, here in the UK - children don't tend to have sexual relationships.....

[Pyramid*]

Deleted a couple of posts, keep it civil

Who is that directed to?

[Iceman]

Who is that directed to?

Nobody, he just said keep it civil.

[Pyramid*]

ummm, sorry, do you need time to translate it? is english not your first language?

so you think women should behave like women in porn movies? I'm going to be teaching my daughters that they should do what feels good to them, not do the degrading shiut that porn stars do for CASH> if you think what is shown in porn is NORMAL then you have serious issues man. Porn is horribly degrading and abusive towards women.

we are talking about WHY children shouldn't be watching porn, obviously, are you too simple to actually think about the REASONS why children shouldn't see porn??

Deleted a couple of posts, keep it civil


any particular reason why these posts weren't also deleted?

[Pyramid*]

Nobody, he just said keep it civil.

If it was directly at 'nobody' - then what was the point in making the comment. :conf:

[Iceman]

If it was directly at 'nobody' - then what was the point in making the comment. :conf:

Well it wasnt aimed at anyone specific, more a general one but yeah its aimed at you and you only. :tongue:

[Jords]

Pyra youre being stupid here you know what he saying is right :joker:
Porn is definitely marketed more for the male viewer, and I cant believe thats actually being debated anybody would tell you that. Thats not to say women dont watch.

I dont think porn is bad, and I dont think it should have to resemble what the "norm" in sexual behavouir is. Much like films/tv shows theres a wide range of genre and its all exaggerated for visual pleasure. Porn is a product. The viewer finds what they like and gets cracking at self-pleasure. It brings fantasy/curiosity alive - again that does not mean things that happen in porn dont happen in real life, some of it does.

Media does a good coverage that what people see in porn is not the "norm" - moreso the appearances of the stars and that all partners should consent - but yes on topic children should be kept away until 13 because before then it is not in the interest that they need to know. Just that penis + vagina = baby at age 11, end of primary school time-ish. Althought saying this I remember finding out what a dildo was at 10 LOL. I dont think it really harms people but with porn they may well believe that everything they see is the the "norm" and it could shape their actions... Miss youve marked my work wrong, TIME FOR PUNISHMENT.

[Pyramid*]

Well it wasnt aimed at anyone specific, more a general one but yeah its aimed at you and you only. :tongue:

I didn't say it was. Odd that you were able to mind read what someone else thought though.

[Pyramid*]

Pyra youre being stupid here you know what he saying is right :joker:
Porn is definitely marketed more for the male viewer, and I cant believe thats actually being debated anybody would tell you that. Thats not to say women dont watch.

I dont think porn is bad, and I dont think it should have to resemble what the "norm" in sexual behavouir is. Much like films/tv shows theres a wide range of genre and its all exaggerated for visual pleasure. Porn is a product. The viewer finds what they like and gets cracking at self-pleasure. It brings fantasy/curiosity alive - again that does not mean things that happen in porn dont happen in real life, some of it does.

Media does a good coverage that what people see in porn is not the "norm" - moreso the appearances of the stars and that all partners should consent - but yes on topic children should be kept away until 13 because before then it is not in the interest that they need to know. Just that penis + vagina = baby at age 11, end of primary school time-ish. Althought saying this I remember finding out what a dildo was at 10 LOL. I dont think it really harms people but with porn they may well believe that everything they see is the the "norm" and it could shape their actions... Miss youve marked my work wrong, TIME FOR PUNISHMENT.

It may be mass marketed toward males: but that doesn't dilute my point any.

Or is it more that as case of it's not the majority opinion & everyone is going to tank in telling me I am wrong for having my own personal opinion !! :joker:

Groundhog day. :spin:

[Marsh.]

when i was a kid i used to draw my own porn lol. literally drew pictures and jerked off to it.

That's really creepy.

[Iceman]

I didn't say it was. Odd that you were able to mind read what someone else thought though.

I have that power. What can I say.

[Pyramid*]

I have that power. What can I say.

Perhaps something on the actual topic that's being dicussed?

[lostalex]

That's really creepy.

well i used the sears catalogue underwear section sometimes too...is that less creepy?

[Iceman]

Perhaps something on the actual topic that's being dicussed?

Give up with you. FYI in future if a Mod posts something like keep it civil don't question what they've done. That better?

[Marsh.]

well i used the sears catalogue underwear section sometimes too...is that less creepy?

Yes. :laugh:

I just had images of someone being aroused from naked anime characters.

[Jords]

It may be mass marketed toward males: but that doesn't dilute my point any.

Or is it more that as case of it's not the majority opinion & everyone is going to tank in telling me I am wrong for having my own personal opinion !! :joker:

Groundhog day. :spin:

tbh you were basically suggesting that what happens in porn is more common in real sex than people think, and you were being a bit patronising to Los saying he should sleep with more women.

Make a poll on TiBB:
Females on TiBB - who has participated in anal sex?

Lets be honest we know how the voting sways already.

[Marsh.]

Make a poll on TiBB:
Females on TiBB - who has participated in anal sex?

Lets be honest we know how the voting sways already.

:joker:

[lostalex]

tbh you were basically suggesting that what happens in porn is more common in real sex than people think, and you were being a bit patronising to Los saying he should sleep with more women.

Make a poll on TiBB:
Females on TiBB - who has participated in anal sex?

Lets be honest we know how the voting sways already.

mayvbe you should add another section to that poll, how many females that have done anal sex LIKED it. how many thought it was pleasurable to them, and how many only did it cause a guy pressured them into it?

that would be a more relevant poll.

[Redway]

To be honest, although there are plenty of disadvantages, I don't actually think teenagers watching pornography is that bad. All of us know that it's only natural for teenagers to feel that way, but many would obviously argue that teenagers shouldn't watch it. I do agree in a way, but they're teenagers. I think it's rather silly that parents seem so adamant on making sure they see their teenager's every moment, when that's a total invasion of privacy. You can't punish them for hormones. I'll be 19 next year and I pretty much had to watch porn until I got a girlfriend.

[Pyramid*]

tbh you were basically suggesting that what happens in porn is more common in real sex than people think, and you were being a bit patronising to Los saying he should sleep with more women.

Make a poll on TiBB:
Females on TiBB - who has participated in anal sex?

Lets be honest we know how the voting sways already.

I've got my opinion Jords and I don't appreciate being insulted, and being verbally abused over and over again by lostalex: perhaps you may forgive me for being 'a bit patronising' given his comments (some of which you may or may not have seen).

[Pyramid*]

mayvbe you should add another section to that poll, how many females that have done anal sex LIKED it. how many thought it was pleasurable to them, and how many only did it cause a guy pressured them into it?

that would be a more relevant poll.

Perhaps you might want to consider stickng to the topic. Or is that not going to be addressed by a moderator?

Guess not.

[Jords]

mayvbe you should add another section to that poll, how many females that have done anal sex LIKED it. how many thought it was pleasurable to them, and how many only did it cause a guy pressured them into it?

that would be a more relevant poll.

I dont think thats really relevant, if they enjoyed it or not its something they tried and your just going into personal perference :tongue: And if they did it to some degree they must have wanted to try it.
Porn just makes it look like everybody tries it and its a reg thing... but on the other hand porn also makes it look like men instigate it when there will be women who do like it up the ass and ask for it...

LOL cant believe Im talking about this.

[InOne]

mayvbe you should add another section to that poll, how many females that have done anal sex LIKED it. how many thought it was pleasurable to them, and how many only did it cause a guy pressured them into it?

that would be a more relevant poll.

Not all women are delicate little flowers you know. Some can be quite devilish in the bedroom :devil:

[Pyramid*]

Give up with you. FYI in future if a Mod posts something like keep it civil don't question what they've done. That better?

Okay. I'll just sit here and put up with all the abuse from lostalex.

Don't botehr telling me I should report it, because when I do, I get infracted or banned for reporting.



*leaves thread in absolute disgust*

[Redway]

mayvbe you should add another section to that poll, how many females that have done anal sex LIKED it. how many thought it was pleasurable to them, and how many only did it cause a guy pressured them into it?

that would be a more relevant poll.

That's your opinion, I'm afraid. Personally, I know plenty of females who have done anal sex and not liked but loved it. Fair enough, your experience seems to tell you that the majority of females are pressured by guys to have anal sex, which is fine, but what about my knowledge of other people's experiences? Or are you just going to push that aside because you think your experience speaks for all? Unless you can prove your argument with valid statistics, you can't particularly speak for anyone, can you?

[MTVN]

Okay. I'll just sit here and put up with all the abuse from lostalex.

Don't botehr telling me I should report it, because when I do, I get infracted or banned for reporting.



*leaves thread in absolute disgust*

That has been dealt with.

[Marsh.]

I dont think thats really relevant, if they enjoyed it or not its something they tried and your just going into personal perference :tongue: And if they did it to some degree they must have wanted to try it.
Porn just makes it look like everybody tries it and its a reg thing... but on the other hand porn also makes it look like men instigate it when there will be women who do like it up the ass and ask for it...

LOL cant believe Im talking about this.

Not all women are delicate little flowers you know. Some can be quite devilish in the bedroom :devil:

:joker:

[Jords]

Not all women are delicate little flowers you know. Some can be quite devilish in the bedroom :devil:

:joker:

Joe seeks these little devils out.

[Redway]

Not all women are delicate little flowers you know. Some can be quite devilish in the bedroom :devil:

:joker:

[InOne]

:joker:

Joe seeks these little devils out.

Oddly they always seem to find me :shocked:

[Kizzy]

Wow...walked in on a hornets nest...Its like i've never been away haha. Porn is too easily accessible, and kids are becoming sexualised much younger in the UK due to media pressure Imo.

[waterhog]

thats right and the more and more its out there - the more normal it becomes an the problem snowballs.

[Pyramid*]

thats right and the more and more its out there - the more normal it becomes an the problem snowballs.

Bang on the nose. This is precisely why it's an important issue and one that needs to be addressed/resolved. How - that is another matter entirely.

[Flamingjoe]

thats right and the more and more its out there - the more normal it becomes an the problem snowballs.

How is teenagers/children watching porn a problem?

[Marc]

Porn is evil

[Pyramid*]

Porn is evil

Why?

[Shaun]

Considering the amount of implied or softcore sex that's featured massively in music videos, soap operas, films, other TV dramas and gossip columns, I don't see the point in blaming pornography for children being subject to sex early.

Ultimately the responsibility is down to the parent. You can either let it be and let them discover how wonderfully warped adulthood is for themselves, or impose all sorts of filters and restrictions and they'll find it at a friend's house. It's a ritual of puberty and adolescence, I don't think many 6 year olds are Googling penises. And whilst I personally find it a bit disturbing for anyone under 13 to find it (and that in itself is an interesting point given the age of consent, because it's pretty much commonplace for people to lose their virginity before 16 nowadays), I believe others don't. I don't judge them for it, because ultimately it's just a penis. Only when grooming, paedophilia and abuse come into play should it be a problem.

[Kizzy]

How is teenagers/children watching porn a problem?

It is a huge problem, as adults I feel there is a moral obligation to protect children from porn.
Im not talking greasy, hormonal adolescents here...I mean younger children.

[Pyramid*]

Considering the amount of implied or softcore sex that's featured massively in music videos, soap operas, films, other TV dramas and gossip columns, I don't see the point in blaming pornography for children being subject to sex early.

Ultimately the responsibility is down to the parent. You can either let it be and let them discover how wonderfully warped adulthood is for themselves, or impose all sorts of filters and restrictions and they'll find it at a friend's house. It's a ritual of puberty and adolescence, I don't think many 6 year olds are Googling penises. And whilst I personally find it a bit disturbing for anyone under 13 to find it (and that in itself is an interesting point given the age of consent, because it's pretty much commonplace for people to lose their virginity before 16 nowadays), I believe others don't. I don't judge them for it, because ultimately it's just a penis. Only when grooming, paedophilia and abuse come into play should it be a problem.


You won't understand the comparison since you haven't lived in an age without internet - but young kids - yes,young kids before the internet was as commonly used as phone - kids used to look up 'naughty words' in the dictionary, and giggle about them. they'd find their parents stash of porn mags and scour through them - now they just need to type the words on google: for all sorts of graphical images to come up.

That's the angle I am coming from.

[Pyramid*]

It is a huge problem, as adults I feel there is a moral obligation to protect children from porn.
Im not talking greasy, hormonal adolescents here...I mean younger children.

That appears to be the part that is going adrift. That's where it starts, and then it becomes the norm - as so they progress - and by the time they do get into naturally hormonal teens/adolescents: they are looking and searching for more extreme things which are outwith the realms of what used to be regarded as 'taboo'.

[Shaun]

You won't understand the comparison since you haven't lived in an age without internet - but young kids - yes,young kids before the internet was as commonly used as phone - kids used to look up 'naughty words' in the dictionary, and giggle about them. they'd find their parents stash of porn mags and scour through them - now they just need to type the words on google: for all sorts of graphical images to come up.

That's the angle I am coming from.

I know, I just don't see any way around it other than a sudden upheaval of the internet and widespread censorship. Which wouldn't happen because there'd be uproar from the adults :laugh: So the only real middle-ground is for parents to be more careful with what their children are searching: using Safesearch, supervising them...

And maybe more of an effort in sex education. My first lessons weren't until I was about 11, which seems quite old really. A lot of the playground mentality, giggling at boobs or whatever :laugh:, could be done away with by approaching it scientifically.

(I'm clutching at straws because I don't think there is a solution to the problem :p)

[Pyramid*]

I know, I just don't see any way around it other than a sudden upheaval of the internet and widespread censorship. Which wouldn't happen because there'd be uproar from the adults :laugh: So the only real middle-ground is for parents to be more careful with what their children are searching: using Safesearch, supervising them...

And maybe more of an effort in sex education. My first lessons weren't until I was about 11, which seems quite old really. A lot of the playground mentality, giggling at boobs or whatever :laugh:, could be done away with by approaching it scientifically.

(I'm clutching at straws because I don't think there is a solution to the problem :p)


At this stage of the game: I don't see there being a solution to the problem either - it's out there now, the 'world' can't take the internet back so to speak and parents see laptops/iphones/ipads as something kids should have - which all have great benefits and advantages.


Like the kids who nicked the Dad's porn mags, like the kids who bunked off and everyone went round to someone's house in the afternoon coz 'John' had a porno and everyone wanted to watch it and see what it was all about: the same happens now: but only on a far more widely, far more unrestricted basis.

[Jords]

Where does this John live?

[Kizzy]

Pandoras box is well and truly open....

[Pyramid*]

Where does this John live?


:D

You were quick with that LOL .

I imagine he's about 50 now and has progressed to accessing it all via the internet and his pals don't need to come round on the QT anymore!

[Pyramid*]

Pandoras box is well and truly open....


Haven't heard that term for a long while.

True though.

[Sam:)]

In a way theres nothing parents can do to prevent their kids from watching porn...
When I was younger and wanted to google dirty stuff i'd use my PSP, because the only computer we had is in the kitchen. Its also more likely to be shown it by an older friend than googling it in your own home.

[InOne]

Pandoras box is well and truly open....

Waheyyyyyyy

[Kizzy]

don't be cheap...;)

[Harry!]

This is why I am quite pro-parent responsibility and less keep on over censorship. If for example a child wanted a new DVD which maybe quite graphic (eg scenes of combat) all the parent has to say "Yes/No I will buy the DVD for you." this goes the same for the internet. If a parent is worried about what a child may look at online then put blocks and filters on your computer/wireless divice rather then "Ignorance is bliss" and remove the content all together. This can be achived with strong minded parents. Not the government.

[waterhog]

very good reply s - but i have to think about things now and recess < but i can not do it now as my manager has just called me up for a movie shoot and i am going to be KACKABOOOO... £££££££ its a blue movie - what ever that means and the tittle is 2 cockerels and one busty blond. i am new to all this movie stuff but my manger says i will love every min of it.

all i can think about is animals chancing me - if anyone gets a copy of it - please send me a private message on how i performed.

[Flamingjoe]

It is a huge problem, as adults I feel there is a moral obligation to protect children from porn.
Im not talking greasy, hormonal adolescents here...I mean younger children.

You didn't answer my question. Why is it a problem?

[Pyramid*]

Latest from the paper we all love to hate and hate to love



Follows concerns children as young as 11 are accessing porn online



What we would like is for people to have to prove they are over 18 to lift the age content bar – like they do with mobile phone providers.’


Fiona Mactaggart, a Labour member of the group which wrote the report, said: ‘The Government is failing to lead on this. It says it wants to protect children but it needs to put those actions into words.


‘The problem with opt-out systems is that they tend to be very complex and take ages to do, meaning parents might not bother and think, “I don’t need to do it now”. And maybe they don’t need to, because their children are too young – but what happens when they grow up and start finding these sites?


‘The answer is to introduce an opt-in system, and I am fairly confident that the profits that ISPs make from porn sites will mean they will make opting in much easier than they are currently making opting out.’

John Brown, of children’s charity the NSPCC, said: ‘We would take the view that child safety should take precedence over civil liberties arguments.


‘We are in a Wild West period with the internet, and we believe that an opt-in system would not constrain civil liberties because over-18s would still be able to access this content.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133529/Computer-porn-Have-ministers-given-fight-Tough-proposals-protect-children-breach-civil-liberties.html#ixzz1soevGt8a

[Kizzy]

You didn't answer my question. Why is it a problem?

I dont have to justify my view to you. If you can't accept or respect my view I am sorry. It may not be a problem for you for children to be able to access hardcore porn ...
Im not willing to get into a discussion on that to be fair.

[Marsh.]

You didn't answer my question. Why is it a problem?

I don't understand. Do you need an explanation as to why children shouldn't be exposed to pornography?

Like kizzy said, we're not talking 15 year old sex mad teens. We're talking children as young as 10 and 11.

[Pyramid*]

Wow...walked in on a hornets nest...Its like i've never been away haha. Porn is too easily accessible, and kids are becoming sexualised much younger in the UK due to media pressure Imo.

How is teenagers/children watching porn a problem?

You didn't answer my question. Why is it a problem?

Given that the topic is CHILDREN INCREASE USE OF PORN -and given Kizzy's post at the top which I have quoted - I think in all fairness: she had given her reason prior to you posing your direct question to her: she had in fact, already given her view and explained why she had that view. Didn't you see her earlier post?

[Flamingjoe]

Given that the topic is CHILDREN INCREASE USE OF PORN -and given Kizzy's post at the top which I have quoted - I think in all fairness: she had given her reason prior to you posing your direct question to her: she had in fact, already given her view and explained why she had that view. Didn't you see her earlier post?

I'm sorry, I did not see that Kizzy had answered my questions prior to me asking it. When I said teenager/children, I meant people aged between 11 - 13.

[Flamingjoe]

I don't understand. Do you need an explanation as to why children shouldn't be exposed to pornography?

Like kizzy said, we're not talking 15 year old sex mad teens. We're talking children as young as 10 and 11.

I never said that we were talking about "15 year old sex mad teens", but I just expressed my opinion that I think it is not a major problem and I questioned Kizzy to why Kizzy thought that it was a problem. I think there are more problems in the world then 11 year old children being able to access porn.

[Marsh.]

Of course there are more problems, and even bigger problems but it doesn't stop this itself being a problem.

[Mystic Mock]

I think the parents need to be more strict if they don't want there children to access Porn.

[Flamingjoe]

Of course there are more problems, and even bigger problems but it doesn't stop this itself being a problem.

I don't think that it is that big of a problem, that's all I was saying.

[waterhog]

lets agree to disagree all of us - we are all entitled to slightly or different views.


how about we all watch a movie together ?

so i here slap and tickle is meant to be good - god no's what its about. anyone seen it ?

[Pyramid*]

I'm sorry, I did not see that Kizzy had answered my questions prior to me asking it. When I said teenager/children, I meant people aged between 11 - 13.


No apology needed to me at all. Was only pointing out that she had actually addressed what you were wondering.

There... everyone in a happy calm place again! :)

Parents do need to more strict: but not every parent is a good parent - or gives a damn what their kids (regardless of age) get upto. As long as they are in the bedroom, being 'quiet', not being a nuisance, not out on the streets (which to a degree I understand) - it will happen.

The other rub is that these days, the 'kids' are far more pc / internet savvy than their parents and they can run rings around them as far as access bars are concerned, wireless hot spots etc, piggybacking someone else's connections etc.

Some very smart kids about these days when it comes to modern technology - you just have to look at some of the younger ones on here with their techy knowledge!!

[waterhog]

well said - they no how to delete there history and all that -

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2012/Apr/Week4/16214715.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/4/22/1335096019889/Google-logo-reflected-in--008.jpg


The Emperor Google
tells parents to sort their kids out.

Sign Of The Times.