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bbfan1991
23-04-2012, 06:06 PM
Police in North Wales have confirmed that they are investigating the naming on Twitter of footballer Ched Evans' rape victim.
The force says it will deal "robustly" with any criminal offences that have been committed.
Ched Evans was jailed for five years on Friday after being convicted of raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel room near Rhyl.
Hundreds of messages have been posted on Twitter abusing his victim and calling for the footballer to be freed.
Many have named the woman despite the fact that she is guaranteed under the law to lifetime anonymity.
DCI Steve Williams, of North Wales police, said: "We find this to be profoundly disturbing and are determined to seek out those responsible.
"I would advise people who post such status and tweets to consider the implications of their action and those who add comments to appreciate that they may be condoning such behaviour and contributing to the continued trauma upon this young woman."
Sheffield United Football Club has launched its own investigation, which focuses on comments made by their reserve team player Connor Brown.
Brown, 19, sparked fury by posting a series of insults about the victim on the social networking site.
They have since been taken down.
Rape support centres and victim support organisations for victims of sexual abuse have condemned the online abuse.
Holly Dustin of End Violence Against Women said she was deeply disturbed that someone who had gone through the trauma of giving evidence in a trial and had been promised anonymity should be exposed in social media.
She said: "She has also received really nasty and vile abuse and we are urging to the Home Secretary to review the protection of anonymity as well as the harassment many women experience online.
"We want to see football clubs and the Football Association take a strong stance against sexism in the sport.
"We also want the Government to take concerted action to address attitudes that condone violence."
bbfan1991
23-04-2012, 06:07 PM
How sick are these people naming the victim online:bored:, shame on them although the press would have probably named her at some point?
Brother Leon
23-04-2012, 06:17 PM
The more I look into the story the more I think she is a gasser. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt though.
Mrluvaluva
23-04-2012, 08:37 PM
NOBODY should be naming names irrespective of who they "support". Ched Evans has been found guilty, and unless a time comes where the victim has been proved to be lying then people should respect her right to anonymity. No matter what anyone thinks of the verdict, that is the decision at this time. I don't know why some people think they have the right to post her identity when this could directly affect her in many ways.
GypsyGoth
23-04-2012, 08:38 PM
The more I look into the story the more I think she is a gasser. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt though.
What's a gasser?
Locke.
23-04-2012, 09:10 PM
A liar.
Mystic Mock
23-04-2012, 09:13 PM
Ched Evans raped her, how can people deny that unless the evidence says otherwise?
I'm not convinced he was guilty tbh, just can't see how when 2 guys sleep with the same girl in the same room on the same night one can be a rapist and the other not, especially when the girl says she can't remember anything so how can they know what she consented to and what she didn't?
Although yeah, she should still keep her anonymity
GypsyGoth
23-04-2012, 09:15 PM
A liar.
Thanks.
Brother Leon
23-04-2012, 09:18 PM
What's a gasser?
Someone who chats poo...or Exaggerates greatly :)
Mrluvaluva
26-04-2012, 03:29 PM
Three people have been arrested as part of a police investigation into the naming of footballer Ched Evans' rape victim on a social media site.
North Wales Police confirmed that two men have been arrested under Section 5 of the Sexual Offences Amendments Act and another male on suspicion of malicious communication.
All three men are being detained by South Yorkshire Police at Sheffield police station where they are being interviewed by officers from North Wales.
Detective Chief Inspector Steve Williams said: "These arrests were made with the assistance of South Yorkshire Police and are part of a series of planned arrests we will be making during this ongoing investigation."
Evans was jailed for five years on April 20 after being convicted of raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel room near Rhyl.
Following sentencing of the Sheffield United player, messages were posted on Twitter about his victim.
Sky (http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16216762)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17853048
Three men have been arrested by police investigating the alleged naming of a rape victim on the Twitter website.
The comments were allegedly made after Sheffield United and Wales striker Ched Evans was jailed for raping a 19-year-old woman near Rhyl, Denbighshire.
North Wales Police said three people were detained in Sheffield with the help of South Yorkshire Police.
The law gives victims of rape and other serious sexual offences anonymity for life.
Two men have been arrested under Section 5 of the Sexual Offences Amendments Act and another male has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communication.
All three men are being detained by South Yorkshire Police at Sheffield police station where they are being interviewed by North Wales Police, said the force in a statement on its website.
Banged up and being grilled ..... :idc:
arista
26-04-2012, 03:38 PM
"malicious communication."
Yes a New Fast Tracked Crime
to deal with Twitter Public Fools.
Niamh.
26-04-2012, 03:53 PM
I'm not convinced he was guilty tbh, just can't see how when 2 guys sleep with the same girl in the same room on the same night one can be a rapist and the other not, especially when the girl says she can't remember anything so how can they know what she consented to and what she didn't?
Although yeah, she should still keep her anonymity
If anything the other guy sounds more at fault(from what I've read), he was the one who picked her up......purely because she was in such a drunken state and took advantage of that it seems, also he was the one who rang Ched and told him to come over iirc
If anything the other guy sounds more at fault(from what I've read), he was the one who picked her up......purely because she was in such a drunken state and took advantage of that it seems, also he was the one who rang Ched and told him to come over iirc
Yeah that's true, just adds to the confusion :laugh:
lostalex
26-04-2012, 04:03 PM
rape is very common. The media reporting rape is very rare.
hennessy
26-04-2012, 04:04 PM
If a woman is too drunk than in the eyes of the law she can't give consent.
There's always much more to the story but we have to accept the Judges decision
obviously the footballer didn't do enough to clear himself
Niamh.
26-04-2012, 04:05 PM
Yeah that's true, just adds to the confusion :laugh:
No doubt we've only heard half the story anyway!
hennessy
26-04-2012, 04:07 PM
At 58% Rape convictions rates are higher than some other criminal act and if a jury is involved than it's higher
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/19/myths-about-rape-conviction-rates
lostalex
26-04-2012, 04:07 PM
If a woman is too drunk than in the eyes of the law she can't give consent.
There's always much more to the story but we have to accept the Judges decision
obviously the footballer didn't do enough to clear himself
you are making it sound like that's not appropriate. do you think it's okay for a man to have sex with a drunk passed out woman and it shoudln't be considered rape??
lostalex
26-04-2012, 04:08 PM
At 58% Rape convictions rates are higher than some other criminal act and if a jury is involved than it's higher
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/19/myths-about-rape-conviction-rates
58% of ALleged rapes are convicted, what about the fact that only 10% of rapes are even reported??
hennessy
26-04-2012, 04:12 PM
you are making it sound like that's not appropriate. do you think it's okay for a man to have sex with a drunk passed out woman and it shoudln't be considered rape??
excuse me? which part made it sound like it's appropriate?
I said it was rape because she couldn't consent.
I said there might be more to the story but we have to respect the decision.
You're feeding into things
On this subject and the other thread you look quite perturbed and ready to defend every woman no matter how guilty they are.
I try to remain objective, can you say the same?
hennessy
26-04-2012, 04:14 PM
58% of ALleged rapes are convicted, what about the fact that only 10% of rapes are even reported??
How do we know the stats if they're not reported?
How do we know if they were true claims?
You said You all are soo off the mark. False rape accusations are INCREDIBLY rare. ACTUAL rape is incredibly common. Actual rape CONVICTIONS are also incredibly rare. Rape is common place is it and as for the conviction I blew that myth away
58% is pretty darn good considering gay men have it worse but I doubt you could bring yourself to defend them
Mystic Mock
27-04-2012, 03:18 AM
The only reason people are debating that she could be lying is because it's a Footballer that's been locked up, unless the evidence says otherwise then his guilty imo.
Also there's probably more to the story than they're telling.
Mrluvaluva
01-05-2012, 01:20 PM
It seems that 9 more people have been arrested for the same offence.
It seems that 9 more people have been arrested for the same offence.
Indeed :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-17905437
Nine more people have been arrested by police investigating the naming of a rape victim on social media sites.
Five men and four women were arrested at various locations across north Wales. Three men arrested in Sheffield last week have been released on bail.
North Wales Police confirmed that three men and three women from the Rhyl, Prestatyn and Llanddulas areas were arrested in early morning raids on Tuesday and were being held at St Asaph police station.
They later arrested a woman in Broughton, Flintshire, and two men, in Colwyn Bay and Abergele.
Banged up and being grilled ..... :pipe:
Mrluvaluva
01-05-2012, 06:41 PM
Detective sergeant Bob Halford said: "We continue to be proactive in this investigation and anticipate that further arrests will be made in the near future."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-17919850
Nine people arrested in north Wales by police investigating the alleged naming of a rape victim on social media sites have been released on bail.
The comments were allegedly made after Sheffield United and Wales striker Ched Evans was jailed for raping a 19-year-old woman near Rhyl, Denbighshire.
Rape victims are legally entitled to anonymity for life.
North Wales Police said the five men and four women were bailed pending further inquiries.
The nine suspects - from Conwy, Denbighshire and Flintshire - were bailed until July.
How ironic that the anonymity of the 12 is protected ..... :rolleyes:
Mrluvaluva
02-05-2012, 10:25 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-17919850
How ironic that the anonymity of the 12 is protected ..... :rolleyes:
Let's find their names and post them on Twitter. Wonder if that's an arrestable offence? This whole thing could be a vicious circle...
GypsyGoth
02-05-2012, 10:44 PM
I think they will only face a fine.
I think they will only face a fine.
You're probably right, although stocks and pillories (http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/heights/9417/) would be appropriate ..... :pipe:
Mystic Mock
03-05-2012, 03:39 PM
I can't believe 4 women in particular was trying to find her identity, how would they feel if they was raped and people was trying to find there identity and post it on Twitter?
And don't get me started on the 5 jackasses.
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