London : Tott Court Rd HGV Logistics Office : Armed Siege

[arista]

Reports say he has Gas connected to him
as a Explosive.
Claims he has nothing to live for.


Maybe a Sharp Shooter is needed



So he failed his HGV - Boo hoo


Live on LBC
and SkyNewsHD

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16217431

"There are reports that four people have been taken hostage at the building.
The man is angry he did not get an HGV Licence.
He is said to have a gas cannister tied to him."


Live
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16217431

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for Kizzy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/27/tottenham-court-road-police-alert

[MTVN]

:o

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136105-12CC552E000005DC-402_634x641.jpg
the crowd waiting for the Explosion

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136105-12CC60BA000005DC-539_634x412.jpg
He did get angry shucking loads out of the Window.

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Brief Video report on here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136105/BREAKING-NEWS-Thousand-workers-evacuated-amid-central-London-bomb-threat-man-wearing-gas-canister-storms-offices-takes-hostages.html

"The man apparently stormed into the logistics office yelling: ‘I have nothing more to live for.’
Stephen Hull is executive editor of the Huffington Post UK website, which is in the same building, although unconnected to the attack, which is though to involve a logistics business.
He posted on Twitter: 'Just interviewed woman who was target of attack. Man came into logistics office strapped up with 4 canisters threatening to blow himself up."

[Mrluvaluva]

Jesus. Imagine if everyone was this mentally unstable? We would have self destructed by now.

He might think he has nothing left to live for but other people do.

[Kate!]

Selfish horrible bastard

[arista]

Jesus. Imagine if everyone was this mentally unstable? We would have self destructed by now.

He might think he has nothing left to live for but other people do.



Yes Booo Hoo
He Failed his HGV test again.


Police Snipers on the Roofs now


Friday Rush Hour
justr bot 100 times worse.

[Mrluvaluva]

Possibly more that a gas canister? They have said he could have access to more dangerous material.

[Shasown]

Selfish horrible bastard

The human mind which at times can cope with enormous stresses and traumas can also succumb to many disorders, either hormonal or emotional. Its a very very frail organ at times. The resultant destruction caused when it breaks down can be enormous in its impact on others lives.


There may be a little more to this story than just he was turned down for his HGV licence.

[Mrluvaluva]

There may be a little more to this story than just he was turned down for his HGV licence.

I don't think most people would doubt that but he is putting others at risk of danger and the situation needs to be dealt with as swiftly as possible.

[arista]

Reports saying he is a 50 year old,
Get his Family in.



LBC Reports
Hostages have been let go.

[arista]

The human mind which at times can cope with enormous stresses and traumas can also succumb to many disorders, either hormonal or emotional. Its a very very frail organ at times. The resultant destruction caused when it breaks down can be enormous in its impact on others lives.


There may be a little more to this story than just he was turned down for his HGV licence.


Maybe
but for a 49 year old man his HGV Driving test
means so much to him.

[Shasown]

I don't think most people would doubt that but he is putting others at risk of danger and the situation needs to be dealt with as swiftly as possible.

Nope, it doesnt, no one really knows what he has with him, he may have gas explosives firearms etc. He may just have things built to represent them and "just wants to be heard", society seems to instill in people the sense they need to be heard and not just accept life and its setbacks.

Either way the best way to deal with the situation is to put in place measures to prevent it from worsening and ideally let him calm down and realise the stupidity of his actions, while at the same time have the capability to take him out while minimising collateral damage should things turn pear shaped.

[arista]

Mr.Michael Green , a 49 year old Angry has no HGV


He has
had over 2 hours
what is he waiting for
the 7PM Live Ch4News Interview?

[michael21]

yes on sky news and bbc new channel who have just cut away from it to cover the weather now sky gone for ads to many things might be happen :bawling::bawling::bawling:

[michael21]

i want this over before spurs play there next game

[bbfan1991]

Crazy guy, not a nice situation for those being held hostage obviously and they must be scared:(.

[Mrluvaluva]

Nope, it doesnt, no one really knows what he has with him, he may have gas explosives firearms etc. He may just have things built to represent them and "just wants to be heard", society seems to instill in people the sense they need to be heard and not just accept life and its setbacks.

Either way the best way to deal with the situation is to put in place measures to prevent it from worsening and ideally let him calm down and realise the stupidity of his actions, while at the same time have the capability to take him out while minimising collateral damage should things turn pear shaped.

I understand that the situation needs to be diffused, and they need to calm him down, as he seems to be very angry, and try to get him to think rationally. That's what the negotiators will be trying to do I imagine first. They will want to deal with it as quickly as they can though. Why wouldn't they? Especially as they are aware that he has materials of some kind that could be used to harm himself and others?

[arista]

I understand that the situation needs to be diffused, and they need to calm him down, as he seems to be very angry, and try to get him to think rationally. That's what the negotiators will be trying to do I imagine first. They will want to deal with it as quickly as they can though. Why wouldn't they?


Yes get his Wife
or Mother in

[michael21]

Yes get his Wife
or Mother in

i hope there not the same person :shocked::nono::bawling:

[arista]

Abby Baafi, 27, the head of training and operations at Advantage, a company which offers HGV courses, said the man had targeted her offices and was currently holding four men hostage.

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Abby Baafi said she believed she was the man's target

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136105/Tottenham-Court-Road-evacuated-amid-central-London-bomb-threat-man-takes-hostages.html#ixzz1tFQxLWU9

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/4/27/1335531499878/Armed-police-monitor-sieg-006.jpg
From SkyNewsHD
reports he made the hostages chuck all the gear and paper work
out the Window.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136105-12CC93ED000005DC-550_306x592.jpg
Police getting ready

[Shasown]

I understand that the situation needs to be diffused, and they need to calm him down, as he seems to be very angry, and try to get him to think rationally. That's what the negotiators will be trying to do I imagine first. They will want to deal with it as quickly as they can though. Why wouldn't they? Especially as they are aware that he has materials of some kind that could be used to harm himself and others?


The longer it goes on the more likely there will be a successful peaceful resolution.

There are snipers ready to shoot, however what will be happening on the ground will be a scenario similar to this, a couple of assault teams from SO19/CO19(Specialist Tactical Firearms teams) will be ready to assault on a quick or contingency assault plan. Away from the incident area there will be more teams assessing the situation and making better more in depth plans to assault.

Once the indepth assault plan has been approved and practiced those teams will move in and take over from the initially deployed assault teams. After they have been rested they will go through the same plans. Adapting them and then they will merge into the assault team shifts.

The longer it goes on the more information is gained about the target and the building, the greater the chances for a successful assault if it comes down to it.

[michael21]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/4/27/1335531499878/Armed-police-monitor-sieg-006.jpg
From SkyNewsHD
reports he made the hostages chuck all the gear and paper work
out the Window.

:nono:now all the paper work will not be in order :bawling:

[arista]

http://lbc.co.uk/mm/image/21749.jpg
Snipers Ready

http://lbc.co.uk/mm/image/21745.jpg

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136105-12CC77FD000005DC-897_634x460.jpg
A Filling Cabinet being chucked out the 5th floor window.


He wants a Refund on his course

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[Mrluvaluva]

The longer it goes on the more likely there will be a successful peaceful resolution.

There are snipers ready to shoot, however what will be happening on the ground will be a scenario similar to this, a couple of assault teams from SO19/CO19(Specialist Tactical Firearms teams) will be ready to assault on a quick or contingency assault plan. Away from the incident area there will be more teams assessing the situation and making better more in depth plans to assault.

Once the indepth assault plan has been approved and practiced those teams will move in and take over from the initially deployed assault teams. After they have been rested they will go through the same plans. Adapting them and then they will merge into the assault team shifts.

The longer it goes on the more information is gained about the target and the building, the greater the chances for a successful assault if it comes down to it.

Yes, I totally understand and agree with what you are saying. Of course they need to collate as much information as they can to have better understanding of the situation, and to try and help the siege come to a peaceful conclusion, without the need for anybody getting hurt or worse. But they will in fact be trying to get as much information as quickly as they can. The quicker they they have information, the sooner they can work towards, and prepare, a possible resolution to the situation. I wouldn't have thought they would have wanted to string it out and buy for time, unless they didn't have all the information to hand and were not in a position to act. They would want to get things under control and people out of danger as quickly as possible surely?

[arista]

SkyNewsHD has just reported
a Man has been arrested

[michael21]

its all over the man be got

[michael21]

SkyNewsHD has just reported
a Man has been arrested

yes he been hack

[arista]

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He will now not make
the Live 7PM Ch4 News

[bbfan1991]

Police have arrested a man, he has caused all this chaos because of not being happy about failing a HGV test:bored:.

[arista]

Police have arrested a man, he has caused all this chaos because of not being happy about failing a HGV test:bored:.


Yes he demanded a refund

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136105-12CCE981000005DC-550_634x591.jpg
No Live Ch4 7PM Interview for you Michael Green


A Eyewitness Video Report by the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/apr/27/tottenham-court-road-eyewitness-accounts-video

[King Gizzard]

My brother use to work for that company/in that office up until last year :shocked:

[arista]

My brother use to work for that company/in that office up until last year :shocked:


If he was there he would have been
told to chuck Computers out of the window
by the angry Mr.Green

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136105-12CC9A58000005DC-827_306x509.jpg
This lady that works in that Office
knew he was Angry and looking for her
she Phoned the Police Fast and sneaked out
so good on her.


Ref: ITV1London News , BBC1 LondonNews
SkyNews and LBC.

[MTVN]

Apparently these HGV courses can cost up to about £3000 to take and often don't end in a job, I guess he'd shelled out a sh*tload of money for no reward and just snapped

[arista]

Apparently these HGV courses can cost up to about £3000 to take and often don't end in a job, I guess he'd shelled out a sh*tload of money for no reward and just snapped


Yes they are not cheap.
but he could have got pre -advice.
No Need to go all Rambo Like



He said he wanted to end his life
so over the next week we may find out more about
his background

[Shasown]

there was also mention about this firm taking full money up front from a few people at a time, then going into administration, then opening up again with a slightly different name and the same staff a few weeks later.

Funny old thing eh?