Chinese Woman beats her Baby. [VIDEO]

[Patrick]

http://video.ak.fbcdn.net/cfs-ak-snc7/v/440557/537/354662324582853_45586.mp4?oh=7d0163dbed616847fefe4 86ce36b05aa&oe=4FAC9700&__gda__=1336710912_b547245b24e64e439463fca337ccdb0 3

People wont shut up about this on Facebook, it's kind of 'The Topic of the Day'. So there's the link.

What a sick disgusting vile ******ing creature the woman is.
Honestly, and the person standing videoing it is just as bad.

[Marc]

Not even going to watch this video, sounds awful

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ive actually emailed that link to newspapers and the metropolitan police.

This bitch needs to be caught and ****ing shot!

Slapping and kicking an 8 month old baby in the face is pure ****ing evil. It just got to me at one point the baby was trying to hug her and she slapped him away.

Really upsetting :(

EDIT: SHES ACTUALLY IN PRISON NOW.

[Smithy]

i saw this on tumblr yesterday :bored:

[Smithy]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

Did you even watch the video?

What could a baby have done to provoke the mum to continually hit the child, nip the child and throw a ball at it

[Niall]

I watched like 4 seconds of it and couldn't stomach any more. How could anyone be that heartless? She's obviously wrong in the head (the mother). :bored:

[Shaun]

Oh Redway...

I saw this on Tumblr yesterday and apparently she got 18 months in prison.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

wish i hadn't watched that im actually speechless

[Vanessa]

It's just a baby! I can't even watch it! :bawling:

[Vicky.]

Havent watched the video, and have no intention to going on (most of) the replies.

Hope the sick bitch gets the beating of her life in prison, where she belongs.

[MTVN]

Redway it's 4 minutes of her smacking her baby in the head, how's that not wrong?

Anyone have a link to the news about her getting jailed?

[Mrluvaluva]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

Are you serious? What she did is absolutely disgusting. Who the hell would treat a baby like that? And she deserves a lot more than 18 months!

[Mrluvaluva]

Redway it's 4 minutes of her smacking her baby in the head, how's that not wrong?

Anyone have a link to the news about her getting jailed?



http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/339390/20120510/footage-malaysian-mother-beating-eight-month-old.htm

[Vicky.]

18 months is a ****ing joke though

And on release she should be sterilised to stop this happening to another innocent child. Unfortunately that would be against the womans human rights though...noone cares about the human rights of kids it seems.

[Marsh.]

D'you know what, guys. You can throw all the names at me, but I'll definitely stand by what I said. It's a public forum and I'm allowed my views on a topic without being insulted. You don't agree, which is fine, but I'll still stand firmly by what I said


Your "opinion" would hold more substance if you actually had the first clue what you were talking about.

But maybe you're right. If you'd been smacked around as a child you might have turned out differently. :rolleyes:

[Ammi]

..that's the most shocking thing I've ever seen
..and the older siblings witnessed it..one seemed to be just eating crisps or something
..I have no words to describe what that woman is

[Vanessa]

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

But it's just a baby! :sad:

[Smithy]

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

because they're ****ing stupid

[Redway]

Your "opinion" would hold more substance if you actually had the first clue what you were talking about.

But maybe you're right. If you'd been smacked around as a child you might have turned out differently. :rolleyes:

Last para. - exactly. People DO turn out differently and I'll stand by what I said. Anyway, that's all I have to say on this, really.

[Mrluvaluva]

Hopefully Redway, the outrage and disgust at your comments, shows you how strongly people feel about such things as it is just plain wrong. Most people can tell the difference.

[Marsh.]

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

A baby is a baby. We're not talking about older children. Babies respond to what's around them.

BIB - Why comment if you haven't the first clue about what happened?

It wasn't a smack for naughty behaviour. It was a BEATING.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

an 8 month old baby is incapable of provoking a reaction like that what can a kid that age do to warrant being hit like that?

[Vanessa]

Hopefully Redway, the outrage and disgust at your comments, shows you how strongly people feel about such things as it is just plain wrong. Most people can tell the difference.

The baby is only 8 months. I can't even watch that video. :bawling:

[Vicky.]

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?
I'm not going to call you any names, I beleieve in respecting opinions no matter how odd they seem to me...but can you answer one question?

How does a 8 month old baby 'provoke' their mother to beat them?

I could understand a bit more if you were talking about...say a 13 year old...though I still dont agree with violence against children...but no way can a baby provoke a reaction like that

[Redway]

To be honest, I have nothing more to say on this, other than what I said before. Honestly. I know how strongly use all feel about this, and I have IMMENSE respect for that, but I honestly don't have anything else to say

[Patrick]

D'you know what, guys. You can throw all the names at me, but I'll definitely stand by what I said. It's a public forum and I'm allowed my views on a topic without being insulted. You don't agree, which is fine, but I'll still stand firmly by what I said

She kicked the baby in the stomach, because it stopped crying and she wanted more because to her it was fun to hit it.

..You're seriously saying that's okay?

[Niamh.]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

That's a baby, you don't discipline babies, they don't understand. That woman was hitting a defenceless baby in the head, I had to turn it off when she started pinching it. I really hope you never have kids, if you don't see anything wrong with what she was doing.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

hes obviously just trolling to get a reaction coz like he just said he has nothing else to say he got the reaction he wanted

also

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

:conf2:

[Ramsay]

no waaay am i watching that ..sounds horrible
hope the bitch gets brutally murdered in the worst possible way in prison

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

So you think kicking an 8 month old baby in the stomach is OK or slapping the baby in the face with her phone or twisting and pinching the babies skin is ok?

You are sick.

[Redway]

I'm not going to call you any names, I beleieve in respecting opinions no matter how odd they seem to me...but can you answer one question?

How does a 8 month old baby 'provoke' their mother to beat them?

I could understand a bit more if you were talking about...say a 13 year old...though I still dont agree with violence against children...but no way can a baby provoke a reaction like that

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

[Kizzy]

Im not sorry for what I said to you...It was a knee jerk reaction, however I can think of no other word that succinctly sums up how any mother or father would react to that statement redway.
There is NO excuse for that level of abuse to ANY child of ANY age for ANYTHING!

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

****ing unbelievable :bored:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

Beating ANYONE is never acceptable especially a child.

She also did it infront of 2 other children who wernt upset so were obviously used to seeing it and the lady filming it and yet doing nothing needs some nice time behind bars.

[Redway]

hes obviously just trolling to get a reaction coz like he just said he has nothing else to say he got the reaction he wanted

also



:conf2:
To be fair, after re-watching it, I was way too harsh, but maybe the mum needs some help, really. That's the only way I can put it. If you don't want to accept, that's entirely up to you. I've said my piece and, to be honest, that may have been well too harsh on the baby.

[Marsh.]

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

Except that's the whole point, babies can't be disobedient, they observe the world and respond to everything around them. They are not yet able to think of their own behaviour.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

To be fair, after re-watching it, I was way too harsh, but maybe the mum needs some help, really. That's the only way I can put it. If you don't want to accept, that's entirely up to you. I've said my piece and, to be honest, that may have been well too harsh on the baby.

I dont think you watched the video initaially and just commented with your views on beating children and now backtracking after watching the video and actually seeing how disgusting it is.

[Marsh.]

hes obviously just trolling to get a reaction coz like he just said he has nothing else to say he got the reaction he wanted


Wouldn't surprise me. Pretty sure it's the same fm that claimed his entire family were wiped out last summer.

[Niamh.]

I dont think you watched the video initaially and just commented with your views on beating children and now backtracking after watching the video and actually seeing how disgusting it is.

lmao, that's what I was thinking

[Ammi]

To be fair, after re-watching it, I was way too harsh, but maybe the mum needs some help, really. That's the only way I can put it. If you don't want to accept, that's entirely up to you. I've said my piece and, to be honest, that may have been well too harsh on the baby.

..I do agree that the woman needs help..whilst being imprisoned and kept from harming that child or any other..

..whatever or whoever may have contributed to an opinion that something like this is ever right..in any situation...is wrong

..no matter what colour the skin is..no matter what the culture...

..this is wrong

[Shaun]

I can't help but think Redway's just trolling to try and appear controversial or something. It's either that or you're genuinely retarded.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I can't help but think Redway's just trolling to try and appear controversial or something. It's either that or you're genuinely retarded.

.

[Doogle]

I'm not even viewing the video.

As far as I can see no one even called Redway names why was he so defensive of this opinion :conf2: It's a horrible thing to say anyway.

[Glenn.]

an 8 month old baby is incapable of provoking a reaction like that what can a kid that age do to warrant being hit like that?

That was an intelligent post Scott :shocked:


But in all seriousness, this is despicable. The woman should be locked up for a lot longer than 18 months.

I don't intend to watch the video because I doubt I could stomach it.

[Marsh.]

I would like to think that a baby born into a family with a serious history of violence and abuse would have the authorities onto them straight away to avoid them keeping the child. But, especially since the Baby P stuff, you can't trust the system all the time.

Very complicated topic.

[Ammi]

..I would like to know who was standing filming it

[Smithy]

That was an intelligent post Scott :shocked:


it was edited my MTVN the original was slightly different :tongue:

[Marsh.]

There's a difference between a ban and a surgical operation though. You could easily ban someone from having kids and monitor them to make sure they're abiding by such restrictions.

The "Condom Brigade" hiding in her wardrobe. lol

[Me. I Am Salman]

Omg this was going around in school today. Utterly disgusting.

[MTVN]

Moved the debate on sterilisation to here http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200938

[bbfan1991]

Absolutely disgusting:mad:, what a vile thing to do and I hope this woman suffers in jail for doing that to a poor baby who cannot defend itself.

To think that there are some people out there who want children but cannot have them is sad and yet there are people like her who have them, grr makes my blood boil.

[Sam:)]

Shes a ****ing,vile, discusting bitch, honestly would not give a **** if she was painfully slowly dying. The noise itself is upsetting, everytime the baby goes to stand up she beats it! I hope to god she gets beaten to death when she gets out of prison.

[thejunction]

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

what on earth could any baby do to deserve that kind of punishment?! let alone what anyone else could do to deserve that.

[Kazanne]

..that's the most shocking thing I've ever seen
..and the older siblings witnessed it..one seemed to be just eating crisps or something
..I have no words to describe what that woman is

I was absolutely stunned Ammi,I actually thought NO ,it must be a set up then she slapped his head,it really upset me,how cruel,I do hope that baby will not be subject to her parenting again:bawling:I really want to punch her.

[Kazanne]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

Are you kidding,she wouldn't leave him alone she just kept wacking him,the kid was sobbing,where is your compassion,how could a baby deserve that,of course it was an unprovoked attack,given the age of the child,how could it not be.Shocked you think that is ok.He's EIGHT months old FFS.

[Redway]

Above posts: changed my mind. I realised I was *bitterly* wrong and I will gladly admit that.

[Kazanne]

Above posts: changed my mind. I realised I was *bitterly* wrong and I will gladly admit that.

Kudos to you Redway,not many would go back on their opinion,maybe you didn't watch the vid properly first time round:xyxwave:

[Glenn.]

If we've learned one thing today, it's not to let Redway babysit.

[joeysteele]

..I would like to know who was standing filming it

The actual incident is shocking enough but for someone to be standing there filming the attack is just plain sick.

[Kazanne]

If we've learned one thing today, it's not to let Redway babysit.

:joker:now that was funny

[Kizzy]

No it wasen't..

[Scarlett.]

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

Sorry, but what? How can a baby provoke a parent? By crying? I hope to god you never have children if you think that is acceptable, that is a disgusting way of thinking.

[King Gizzard]

Can't bring myself to even watch it

[joeysteele]

:joker:now that was funny

I have to admit kazanne,I smiled at Glenn's comment too.
I like Redway a lot though and really massive credit to him for re-thinking his original stance on this one,shows the good guy he is and that he is willing to listen to others and take on board what they say.That is a good thing in people.

[Me. I Am Salman]

No it wasen't..

You're spelling is though :|

[Kizzy]

You're spelling is though :|
*we all laugh*

[Jack_]

From what I've seen the woman needs serious, serious help. And fast. People that get kicks out of this sort of stuff are a serious threat to not only children, but the rest of society. Not only is 18 months not sufficient but I sincerely hope her mental state is being addressed and looked into, because whenever she is inevitably released, if she hasn't received any help, I have no doubt that she'll still be a threat.

Disgusting nonetheless though. It's just...barbaric and beyond words. I hope the kid is alright and won't be too scarred by what's such a vile incident.

[Marsh.]

You're spelling is though :|

Pot. Kettle. Black. :hmph:

[InOne]

Pot. Kettle. Black. :hmph:

I noticed that too :joker:

[iRyan]

This really disturbed me and I feel like crying now....

[Jords]

I wasnt gonna watch it but I think seeing things like this really hits hard just how sick the world can be and encourages you to be the uttermost opposite of it all.

Shes a monster. And I have a horrible feeling she enjoyed it. The baby was quieting down at the end and she began hitting them once more. Disgusting and 18 months definitely isnt enough. The woman filming is equally sick imo also and I hope shes punished.

Hope the kiddy gets adopted into a loving family. Genuinely made me feel depressed.

And Redway, wtf man?

[iRyan]

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

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[Ammi]

..I think I understand what you were trying to say Redway..I might not agree with it but I think I understand...
..I don't think it came out as how you meant it though so people's responses were never going to be good..because what that woman did to that baby is shocking and it's hard not to get emotive about something like that..

..anyway age of the baby aside..my opinion is that a child could never 'provoke' an adult into behaving in that way..the child holds no responsibility whatsoever for the low tolerance or reaction of adults....

..but at least I do know where you're coming from..even if I don't agree

[Pyramid*]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.


Yellow friends..... christ, is that how you define those who are Oriental or have Far Eastern heritage.

As for you thinking it is not wrong for an adult to deliberately hit any baby/toddler/child around the head ....Jesus... I've read some bizarre comments on this forum, but this probably beats them all.

[Pyramid*]

You're spelling is though :|


*your*

:joker:

[Redway]

Yellow friends..... christ, is that how you define those who are Oriental or have Far Eastern heritage.

As for you thinking it is not wrong for an adult to deliberately hit any baby/toddler/child around the head ....Jesus... I've read some bizarre comments on this forum, but this probably beats them all.
I think you'll find that my opinion later changed, but kudos to you and Amni for being able to argue your casrs without resorting to name calling.

[Pyramid*]

I personally don't think what the mother of the baby did was wrong. Sometimes children provoke parents to it - after all, different cultures and backgrounds discipline children in different ways. I'm white, and have been brought up in a white family (obviously) and arguments and shouting at, yes, but that's it. My black and yellow friends have much stricter parents than your typical white does, really. Of course, the poor baby's only...well...a baby, but at least there's discipline there, unless it was a totally unprovoked attack. In which case, I'd agree that she's a vile bitch and had NO right to do any of that.

D'you know what, guys. You can throw all the names at me, but I'll definitely stand by what I said. It's a public forum and I'm allowed my views on a topic without being insulted. You don't agree, which is fine, but I'll still stand firmly by what I said

^^^^^^^^^^Because, guys, they're your opinions. Personally, I believe in firm disciple - prepared to get an awful lot of flack for it, yeah, but they still won't change. I don't believe in saying "No, that's wrong" and the lot. As I said, if it was random and unprpvoked, she's a horrible woman, but if it was necessary, I believe they should be given very firm discipline. I'm not changing my view on this matter, so you can all throw names and that at me, but I respect your views, so why not let me have mine?

Last para. - exactly. People DO turn out differently and I'll stand by what I said. Anyway, that's all I have to say on this, really.

To be honest, I have nothing more to say on this, other than what I said before. Honestly. I know how strongly use all feel about this, and I have IMMENSE respect for that, but I honestly don't have anything else to say

Disobedience, really. I know the majoroty of you won't agree, but parents do have different levels of tolerance. Maybe I was wrong in saying that was totally fine and perhaos upon hindsight and re-watching that clip the baby dodn't deserve that...BUT parents do have only so much they can cope with and I did say that if it was a random attack she deserves the beating, really, but if the baby was really getting on her nerves ansd she broke down for a few minutes, I can understamd her actions. Maybe some cpunselling for her's needed in that case. But if the baby didn't do owt, I completely get the negative reaction and would have no sympathy for her, either.

To be fair, after re-watching it, I was way too harsh, but maybe the mum needs some help, really. That's the only way I can put it. If you don't want to accept, that's entirely up to you. I've said my piece and, to be honest, that may have been well too harsh on the baby.

Above posts: changed my mind. I realised I was *bitterly* wrong and I will gladly admit that.


After reading all of your previous posts saying how much you believe in firm discipline, that you didnt' care how harsh your opinion was, repeatedly you said that you weren't changing your stance: I am not convinced that you actually HAVE truly changed your opinion. I'll accept you saying you have, but I'm not entirely sure you have.

Each to their own though. You say you have.

Personally any adult who raises their hands to a baby - needs serious help. The baby is the defenceless one: the adult is meant to be the mature responsible person who is meant to protect the baby from harm: not be there to inflict the harm.

If the mother was reaching frantic levels: she should have removed herself from the situation by whatever means: and not lashed out at the baby.