View Full Version : Cheryl Cole thinks we all should forgive Chris Brown
Callum
18-05-2012, 02:57 PM
Cheryl Cole has insisted that the public should 'move on' from Chris Brown's 2009 domestic violence conviction.
Cole said that she supported Rihanna's decision to forgive the singer following an incident three years ago that saw him sentenced to 180 days of community labour.
Discussing Brown and Rihanna's recent collaboration on 'Birthday Cake', she told In: Demand with Alex James: "I think it's really kind of her actually. She's come out and publicly forgiven him really.
"I think it's about time we all did if I'm completely honest, if you want my opinion."
She continued: "I work with people all the time with my charity that are transformed characters. They've done things when they were young that they regret, they've been to prison and they're now upstanding members of the public and help our community and are amazing people.
"I think because he's in the limelight... he hasn't had the chance to be forgiven or to forgive himself because we haven't let him. Now that she's come out and embraced him again, I think it's time we all moved on. That guy is talented as hell."
Do you agree with her? I know I don't. Perhaps if he showed some remorse for his actions then I may feel differently but the fact that he's gone as far as to brag about it in his songs makes him a despicable human being in my eyes.
King Gizzard
18-05-2012, 03:00 PM
When he still continues to ask like a doucheballoon?
Jack_
18-05-2012, 03:11 PM
It's a difficult one. Mainly because he's clearly a ***** for bragging about it.
But I don't really agree when people criticise Rihanna for forgiving him, at the end of the day it's up to her whether she does or not, she was the one that was affected, not us. And when people go on about 'role models', well I'm afraid that's not really her problem. If you don't want your child to 'look up' to a certain type of person, then teach them not to. She's just living her life the way she wants to, as she is perfectly entitled to do.
I think there's a difference between Rihanna forgiving him, and the rest of society 'forgiving' him.
Mrluvaluva
18-05-2012, 05:32 PM
He isn't remorseful at all.
The fact that she of all people want us to move on makes me want to hold a bigger grudge :hmph:
Tom4784
18-05-2012, 05:34 PM
She's a stupid attention seeking bitch, Chris Brown has done nothing to deserve sympathy and anyone that does sympathise with him is a waste of space. He's a **** that deserves everything bad that happens to him.
Meh if Rihanna can forgive him then there's no reason I should hold it against him
Ramsay
18-05-2012, 05:36 PM
maaaaaybe if he showed some type of remorse for it but he hasent so he can go **** himself
Kate!
18-05-2012, 05:38 PM
She's a stupid attention seeking bitch, Chris Brown has done nothing to deserve sympathy and anyone that does sympathise with him is a waste of space. He's a **** that deserves everything bad that happens to him.
[2] he's scum. Cheryl is a disgrace to womankind for even thinking this, letting alone announcing it publically. Much as Ashley's behaviour (cheating) was despicable, it's clear Ms Cole has never experienced abuse herself, she's not gooing to endear herself at all due to this.
Also, has she forgotten that she herself has abused someone when she beat up that toilet assistant (or whoever)
Mrluvaluva
18-05-2012, 05:43 PM
[2] he's scum. Cheryl is a disgrace to womankind for even thinking this, letting alone announcing it publically. Much as Ashley's behaviour (cheating) was despicable, it's clear Ms Cole has never experienced abuse herself, she's not gooing to endear herself at all due to this.
She is only saying so because of her own history....she's not so squeaky clean herself. :tongue:
Locke.
18-05-2012, 05:46 PM
He's a tit but Rihanna isn't bothered about it and seems to be obsessed with him, so no point in anyone else caring if the girl that got the beating isn't
Samuel.
18-05-2012, 05:49 PM
That's not really the point though. He's disliked because he's a scumbag, beating Rihanna being the evidence. Nothing to do with Rihanna herself or forgiving him.
Locke.
18-05-2012, 05:52 PM
He's a nice guy is Chris
This is probably her way of gearing up to announcing that she's back with Ashley Cole. Sakes.
Black Dagger
18-05-2012, 06:07 PM
I'l just do as you say Cheryl xoxoxox
joeysteele
18-05-2012, 06:11 PM
Well there's one thing for sure, I for one wouldn't follow any lead showed by the very false Ms Cole.
Shaun
18-05-2012, 06:17 PM
Okay, a lot of people hate on him because of his music, which is a completely different reason and totally legitimate because he's built a career on poor MJ imitations, autotune and other people writing for him. He's a good dancer and can perform well live, but I don't particularly care about that when "his" music is so awful in the first place.
So I do think some people hate on him for this because of his music.
However, time and time again he's shown himself to be a petulant, unchanged prick. He storms out of interviews, has trashed an interview set, and recently attacked Rihanna in some remix.
He has not been punished at all. His career, if anything, has skyrocketed since the incident. He hasn't had a difficult time from anyone but critics, and let's face it, as much as critics like to think they're important they're really not when you're being given Grammy awards and #1 hits.
He's just got a foul attitude, and whilst I don't particularly care about his/Rihanna's relationship (although, her working with him recently was a disgusting message to domestic violence sufferers - work with your abuser for cash! xo) I just have no respect for either of them.
Marsh.
18-05-2012, 06:20 PM
Also, has she forgotten that she herself has abused someone when she beat up that toilet assistant (or whoever)
I can't stand Chris Brown but I think it's pretty silly to bring that up.
Maybe the fact that she herself did similar stupid things when she was younger means she understands how people can change. I'm not saying Chris Brown can, but I do think it's hypocritical how celebs do one thing that continues to be brought up against them years later when we all do idiotic things that gets forgiven and forgotten, and then most of us mature and learn from it.
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
18-05-2012, 06:23 PM
The fact that she of all people want us to move on makes me want to hold a bigger grudge :hmph:
:laugh:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
18-05-2012, 08:05 PM
oh shut up cheryl, just because you want to collaborate with him. I bet if he wasn't selling anymore, none of the celebs that are teambreezy would be speaking right now. All of you do one
Ninastar
18-05-2012, 08:07 PM
no
He should be forgotten and we should never see his face again
InOne
18-05-2012, 08:09 PM
He's got off ridiculously lightly. He got welcomed back at the grammys like some fallen hero something, it's just bizarre. And Cheryl seems on the same thick as pig **** wavelength as Rihanna.
Brother Leon
18-05-2012, 08:16 PM
This gonna be the realest **** I ever wrote
Off the record, no camera’s, forget a quote
Some of my family doing good, most doing dope
I'm from Virginia where they hang the *****'s by a rope
I used to see my momma getting beat down
Is that the real definition of me now?
I fell off, back on my feet now
Headed to the sky, can’t even see down
Award shows, I poured my heart out
And people still steady trynna point my flaws out
And I’d be lying if I said it ain’t get to me
But I’m a champion, legend, history
Kizzy
18-05-2012, 08:18 PM
Just foff cheryl...
Okay, a lot of people hate on him because of his music, which is a completely different reason and totally legitimate because he's built a career on poor MJ imitations, autotune and other people writing for him. He's a good dancer and can perform well live, but I don't particularly care about that when "his" music is so awful in the first place.
So I do think some people hate on him for this because of his music.
However, time and time again he's shown himself to be a petulant, unchanged prick. He storms out of interviews, has trashed an interview set, and recently attacked Rihanna in some remix.
He has not been punished at all. His career, if anything, has skyrocketed since the incident. He hasn't had a difficult time from anyone but critics, and let's face it, as much as critics like to think they're important they're really not when you're being given Grammy awards and #1 hits.
He's just got a foul attitude, and whilst I don't particularly care about his/Rihanna's relationship (although, her working with him recently was a disgusting message to domestic violence sufferers - work with your abuser for cash! xo) I just have no respect for either of them.
This sums up everything I would like to say on the matter. Outstanding post.
Kizzy
19-05-2012, 10:38 AM
Yep well said :)
Chris Brown doesn't deserve forgiveness from the public because he's not even tried. He might have done what the court required him to but he's a famous person, the rules are completely different and always have been. I'm sure if his career continues to go the way it's going he'll eventually do something that causes people to largely forget about the assault incident, but it'll always be hanging over his head. And shame on Rihanna for going about "forgiving him" in the way she did. I still think she's been sucked back in to a cycle of abuse rather than being the forgiving one in this situation. I've boycotted her music as a personal protest, I can't bear to listen to things like Russian Roulette, which in all honesty just played off public feeling towards her in the aftermath of all of this, knowing that she's recorded something like Birthday Cake and completely trivialised all of that in one fell swoop. They're both idiots, I just hope she doesn't end up getting killed some day because of that man.
lostalex
19-05-2012, 10:46 AM
Didn't she also take back ashley for a while? she only knows her value as a human being connected with her value as a sex object to heterosexual men, so its not surprising that she would defend abusive heterosexual male sexuality.
Kizzy
19-05-2012, 10:56 AM
I thought an abusive man was an abusive man , regardless of sexuality? But I agree she is no role model for showing young women what is and is not acceptable in a loving relationship.
Firewire
19-05-2012, 12:14 PM
I can't help myself to like "Turn Up the Music". I just find it a catchy song.
However, I don't like him as a person. I hate him and I really wish he disappeared. Rihanna didn't deserve the abuse and he should not be glorifying it in his songs. It's disgusting.
I personally don't think Cheryl realises this. I think she thinks people hate him for what he did to her but I don't think she fully understands that he's shown no remorse and he's just an overall ****. It's a shame she had to say this because she will be slated for this completely. Really stupid thing to say.
Patrick
19-05-2012, 12:16 PM
He's a top lad.
End of story.
lostalex
19-05-2012, 12:18 PM
He's a top lad.
End of story.
*shakes head* stop baiting.
Firewire
19-05-2012, 12:18 PM
He's a top lad.
End of story.
I don't understand how you can think this about him...
lostalex
19-05-2012, 12:19 PM
I thought an abusive man was an abusive man , regardless of sexuality? But I agree she is no role model for showing young women what is and is not acceptable in a loving relationship.
sorry, maybe i'm ignorant, but i havn't heard of many gay men beating the s*** out of women. maybe you know something i don't?
Cheryl should just stay out of it tbh, and shut her mouth. She doesn't know how they both feel, why is she piping up about something she isn't even involved in :shrug:
Roy Mars III
19-05-2012, 12:27 PM
He is very possibly the worst artist of all time. If he made halfway decent music, than we could talk
lostalex
19-05-2012, 12:29 PM
He is very possibly the worst artist of all time. If he made halfway decent music, than we could talk
is that the woody allen/roman polanski defense?
It's unbelievable how people forgive celebrities for truly disgusting crimes.
In Cheryl's defense, it's probably a bit unfair that this is a news story. She's got nothing to do with this situation.
lostalex
19-05-2012, 12:52 PM
In Cheryl's defense, it's probably a bit unfair that this is a news story. She's got nothing to do with this situation.
then why did she stick her irrelevant ass into it? ohh, hmm, i think we all know why. desperate for attention.
then why did she stick her irrelevant ass into it? ohh, hmm, i think we all know why. desperate for attention.
I imagine she'll have been asked in an interview. A lot of celebrities get asked questions like this that seem innocuous and then they get turned into huge news articles.
bbfan1991
19-05-2012, 01:06 PM
Cheryl talking **** again, her and Chris are not particularly nice people anyway. Cheryl got success by the people she knows, looks and is not even the best singer in GA.
I like some of Chris songs though, but Rihanna is no angel either and if she has forgiven him like because the abuse happened to her it is her business even though in some ways it does send out a bad message...
Brother Leon
19-05-2012, 01:31 PM
When has Chris ever bragged or glorified beating her up? I must be missing something.
He's bragged about ****ing her and the fact she's become and industry hoe since. Freedom of speech..after all he would know more than everyone in this thread and everyone who hates on him if that I what she has become. Is he not able to mention her ever again?
Who are we to say he has no remorse for what he done? Is it assumed because he tells his critics to check his Grammy award? Or because he doesnt tweet her every second of his life saying he is sorry and if she would take hisbcobfused soul back?
He's a top lad.
End of story.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m492ltdGPf1qlc7vj.gif
Kizzy
19-05-2012, 02:12 PM
sorry, maybe i'm ignorant, but i havn't heard of many gay men beating the s*** out of women. maybe you know something i don't?
Well I can't possibly comment on that, however if the issue is manipulating and intimidating your partner then surely its possible in both hetro and homosexual relationships?
That was my point alex.
When has Chris ever bragged or glorified beating her up? I must be missing something.
He's bragged about ****ing her and the fact she's become and industry hoe since. Freedom of speech..after all he would know more than everyone in this thread and everyone who hates on him if that I what she has become. Is he not able to mention her ever again?
Who are we to say he has no remorse for what he done? Is it assumed because he tells his critics to check his Grammy award? Or because he doesnt tweet her every second of his life saying he is sorry and if she would take hisbcobfused soul back?
The fact he openly brags about anything to do with Rihanna is what makes him so repulsive. People expect to see a man humbled and reformed after committing such an atrocious crime against his girlfriend, and instead they see someone who's openly slagging her off, giving the middle finger to us all and throwing temper tantrums whenever the incident gets brought up. He's a ****ing idiot. If he had ANY common sense he would never mention Rihanna again and just keep his head down - people might let him get on with it if he had done that.
If he had any remorse for committing the crime, he would not be acting in such a way. Clearly, he's just pissed off that it's held back his career somewhat. He couldn't give less of a **** that he beat her to within an inch of her life and neither could she. That's up to them, but that doesn't mean we should all go along with their attitude. What he did was wrong, the way she seems to have let it slide is wrong and all the young people out there who look up to the pair of them are seeing that all play out. What kind of an impression does that leave on young people?
Jordan.
19-05-2012, 03:57 PM
Chris Brown thanks Cheryl Cole for 'move on' remark
Brown took to Twitter to thank Cole for her support, writing: "Your amazing! I appreciate you. [sic]"
He then deleted the tweet and replaced it with another, saying: "Thanks for the support and believing in me as an artist!"
:suspect:
what does [sic] mean? I see that all the time :conf:
what does [sic] mean? I see that all the time :conf:
It's to indicate that whoever wrote the quote/source originally made an error and the article is quoting it however that person wrote it, to show that they didn't make the mistake. For example if someone used your instead of you're, and I quoted them, I'd put [sic] to show that I'm not the one who used it incorrectly.
fitz2k2
19-05-2012, 06:41 PM
Why is this women even speaking about it? If she had sister and that happen to her she will never forgive him
Niall
19-05-2012, 08:07 PM
I don't really think she's seen how much of a **** he's been about it all. He's never shown any remorse for his actions and whenever asked about what he did, he completely flips his lid. He ****ing needs to show he knows the magnitude of what he did and show he's sorry.
Mystic Mock
20-05-2012, 03:59 PM
When I thought she couldn't get any worse.:joker:
I wonder if she would be saying that if it was her being battered the **** out of by Chris Brown? I bet not so **** off and make your cheesy Music please.
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