FFS, can someone just sort the legal system out...

[Vicky.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151590/Lauren-Booth-spared-jail-son-Aaron-2-dies-drinking-toxic-cannabis-plant-food.html

This story is awful.

But the worst part...12 months suspended sentence means she doesnt even get punished AT ALL.

Load of bollocks and becoming more and more common.

Can someone with a little bit of sense and compassion for the VICTIMS sort this ridiculous system out please :bored:

[Pyramid*]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151590/Lauren-Booth-spared-jail-son-Aaron-2-dies-drinking-toxic-cannabis-plant-food.html

This story is awful.

But the worst part...12 months suspended sentence means she doesnt even get punished AT ALL.

Load of bollocks and becoming more and more common.

Can someone with a little bit of sense and compassion for the VICTIMS sort this ridiculous system out please :bored:


Could not agree more with you in such cases Vicky.

It's a disgrace - in fact, that doesn't even come close to describing it.

[Marsh.]

Absolutely disgusting. Is that picture of her smiling, when she came out of court? Just beyond belief.

[Shaun]

Tragic (and stupid) accident more than appalling neglect to me. Could've drunk anything - bleach, paint, disinfectant - but unsurprisingly the DM goes for an anti-drugs stance and wheels out the hysterical rhetoric.

Aaron had not been fed and was probably extremely hungry and thirsty when he drank the liquid

says who? A medium?

[Vicky.]

Well I would say staying in bed til 12:40 whilst allowing a 2 year old free roam in your house when you know there are dangerous substances around is neglect :S

[Pyramid*]

Tragic (and stupid) accident more than appalling neglect to me. Could've drunk anything - bleach, paint, disinfectant - but unsurprisingly the DM goes for an anti-drugs stance and wheels out the hysterical rhetoric.





Doesn't matter what the substance was Shaun - it's irresponsible parenting and at it's worst.

Your hatred for the Daily Mail seems to be clouding your judgement on the issue a little - or so it 'comes over' in your posts when anything is quoted from the Daily Mail.

I'm quite sure there will be other papers covering the same story: and it will still be a cannabis plant at the root cause, as well as poor parenting.

[MTVN]

I think the Mail's title is pretty misleading saying she "killed" her son and emphasising the cannabis aspect; making out this was a designed and malicious move when really I agree with Shaun that it's a tragic accident, although yes caused by neglect. According to the judge she was a loving mother to the kid and now has another child as well, and locking her up would probably be damaging to them, so I think this is the right thing to do

[Tom4784]

Foolish woman, I just hope this new child stays safe and that she has learned from this awful experience.

[Vicky.]

And I seriously hope that photo is not her coming out of court...

[Niamh.]

Tragic (and stupid) accident more than appalling neglect to me. Could've drunk anything - bleach, paint, disinfectant - but unsurprisingly the DM goes for an anti-drugs stance and wheels out the hysterical rhetoric.



says who? A medium?

Jury hears she had turned his room into a cannabis factory to 'make money'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151590/Lauren-Booth-spared-jail-son-Aaron-2-dies-drinking-toxic-cannabis-plant-food.html#ixzz1wIGRPjB9

[Pyramid*]

here's the BBC version.

Still mentions cannabis plant, mentions plant food, mentions neglect, mentions that the court was told the 2 year old had not been fed.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18250959


Aaron had not been fed and was probably hungry and thirsty, the court was told.

Booth, from Huddersfield, was given a 12-month prison term, suspended for two years, for neglect.

She was made the subject of a two-year supervision order.

The 24-year-old will also have to prove she is an adequate parent, the court ordered.

[Pyramid*]

Jury hears she had turned his room into a cannabis factory to 'make money'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151590/Lauren-Booth-spared-jail-son-Aaron-2-dies-drinking-toxic-cannabis-plant-food.html#ixzz1wIGRPjB9


Try the BBC article which I've just linked to. The one that mentions the 2 year old had not been fed.

It actually seems as though this thread is turning into less of a discussion about the awful death of this poor boy due to parental neglect: and it more concerned with trying to find fault with the Daily Mail's reporting technique. Not quite sure why that is tbh.

The facts are as stated:- brush away all the dross, and the facts still remain in respect of terrible parenting as well as the leniency of the Judge.

[MTVN]

Try the BBC article which I've just linked to. The one that mentions the 2 year old had not been fed.

It actually seems as though this thread is turning into less of a discussion about the awful death of this poor boy due to parental neglect: and it more concerned with trying to find fault with the Daily Mail's reporting technique. Not quite sure why that is tbh.

The facts are as stated:- brush away all the dross, and the facts still remain in respect of terrible parenting as well as the leniency of the Judge.

I think a source should always be subjected to critical analysis, and I'm just trying to establish the facts which is difficult when the Mail sensationalises it's rhetoric about peoples deaths to get a bigger audience

I also can't find it said anywhere else that she was growing cannabis in his room

[Pyramid*]

I think a source should always be subjected to critical analysis

I also can't find it said anywhere else that she was growing cannabis in his room

I think that's all fine and well, but given that I've included a link to the BBC which contains the same wording in parts as the DM - should also be taken into account during such critical analysis ... which let's be honest: needs no analysising really.

She didn't feed her child,she left substances around that could (and did) kill her child. I'm sure many other newspapers will carry the same added trash as the DM - we don't all buy into them though - many of us are able to glean the important parts from such lower end papers.

Whether she was growing cannabis in every corner of the house makes no difference to what happened to the child.

[MTVN]

True enough. I realise it might sometimes come across like I'm defending stupid mothers like this btw which I'm not trying to do, but it annoys me when the Mail sensationalises tragic stories just to get more people visiting their website

[Marsh.]

She grew the cannabis plants in the boy's bedroom? Is that badly worded or is that right?

If so, she definitely should have had some jail time.

[Pyramid*]

True enough. I realise it might sometimes come across like I'm defending stupid mothers like this btw which I'm not trying to do, but it annoys me when the Mail sensationalises tragic stories just to get more people visiting their website

I understand what you are saying, I do, but that's not really the story here is it? It's not about how the DM or other such papers report stories.

Most of us are aware of the nature of their reporting - same as the red tops which are nothing more that gossip mags - most are aware of pulling the salient information from the rubbish.

As I say: it seems a shame that this discussion seems to have gone more towards slagging off the initial source of the story because it came from a DM link - rather than the story itself and the actual facts of this neglect and the intense awful suffering that a poor 2 year old child had to endure before dying. I'd have thought that was the important part of what Vicky's post was about: and in the sentence passed - and thoughts on all of that, but that's only my own view of course.

[Jack_]

Tragic indeed, but I agree with others, the Daily Mail's constant scaremongering and sensationalisation of almost all their stories is beyond irritating and doesn't actually do the stories themselves any justice.

Tragic (and stupid) accident more than appalling neglect to me. Could've drunk anything - bleach, paint, disinfectant - but unsurprisingly the DM goes for an anti-drugs stance and wheels out the hysterical rhetoric.



says who? A medium?

:thumbs:

[Pyramid*]

Tragic indeed, but I agree with others, the Daily Mail's constant scaremongering and sensationalisation of almost all their stories is beyond irritating and doesn't actually do the stories themselves any justice.






Thoughts at all on the sentencing and Vicky's comments in her OP at all or is this thread going to continue to be one that 'ignores' any other sources other than the Daily Mail.

I'm shocked to be honest that some here have more to say about the reporting of the DM that the actual story, the events that led to it, and the sentence passed -which was what the original post asked.

[Pyramid*]

Other sources:


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/national-news/neglect-death-mother-spared-jail-1-4595029

Published on Monday 28 May 2012 22:23

A mother whose neglected two-year-old son died a prolonged and horrible death after drinking poisonous plant food has walked free from court.

Lauren Booth, 24, was growing cannabis in her home in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, and was asleep when her son Aaron drank the toxic liquid.
She was handed a 12-month suspended sentence at Bradford Crown Court after being found guilty of child neglect.

Aaron had not been fed and was probably extremely hungry and thirsty when he drank the liquid, the trial heard. He died 11 days later after his windpipe disintegrated and he suffered several other injuries, including burns to his stomach, pancreas and spleen.

Judge Colin Burn described the toddler's death as terrible as he sentenced Booth, saying: "Aaron's death was, on the evidence, a prolonged and frankly horrible one. And it was preventable."




From the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/29/mother-spared-jail-poisons-son?newsfeed=true

A mother whose neglected two-year-old son died a prolonged and horrible death after drinking poisonous plant food has walked free from court.
Lauren Booth, 24, was growing cannabis in her home in Huddersfield (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/huddersfield) and was asleep when her son Aaron drank the toxic liquid.

She was handed a 12-month suspended sentence at Bradford crown court after being found guilty of child neglect.

Aaron had not been fed and was probably extremely hungry and thirsty when he drank the liquid, the trial heard.

He died 11 days later after his windpipe disintegrated and he suffered several other injuries, including burns to his stomach, pancreas and spleen.




Starting to see the story yet. Doesnt matter where it's been reported: the same basis is there regardless of 'source'.

[Mrluvaluva]

I am sure most parents would sensibly keep things out of harms way. For instance you would not keep bleach in a cupboard under the sink where a child could get access to it. You just would not keep something so toxic somewhere where it could be reached.

How can you leave your child hungry or thirsty? You make sure they are comfortable and are there if they need something, no matter what time of day or night.

Why was she not awoken until 12.40pm the next day? Ask yourself that question.

[joeysteele]

I am sure most parents would sensibly keep things out of harms way. For instance you would not keep bleach in a cupboard under the sink where a child could get access to it. You just would not keep something so toxic somewhere where it could be reached.

How can you leave your child hungry or thirsty? You make sure they are comfortable and are there if they need something, no matter what time of day or night.

Why was she not awoken until 12.40pm the next day? Ask yourself that question.

Very strong points indeed,well said.

[Pyramid*]

more from the BBC




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18250959

Information about growing cannabis was discovered in a notebook and laptop seized from the house by police.

The judge told Booth: "The evidence that this liquid was used for growing cannabis was strong.

"You should not even have allowed the liquid to be brought into the same house as Aaron."

[Omah]

Well I would say staying in bed til 12:40 whilst allowing a 2 year old free roam in your house when you know there are dangerous substances around is neglect :S

I go with that as well - regardless of any other "circumstances", homes are dangerous places for toddlers and any so-called "parent" who lies in bed until the afternoon while his/her 2 year old child roams free is guilty of gross neglect and should be jailed for a minimum of 5 years and thereafter banned from any form of child care, even their own ..... :hmph:

If the "parent" is a cannabis user/grower, that sentence should be doubled ..... :idc:

[Pyramid*]

I am sure most parents would sensibly keep things out of harms way. For instance you would not keep bleach in a cupboard under the sink where a child could get access to it. You just would not keep something so toxic somewhere where it could be reached.

How can you leave your child hungry or thirsty? You make sure they are comfortable and are there if they need something, no matter what time of day or night.

Why was she not awoken until 12.40pm the next day? Ask yourself that question.

Quite.
.

[Redway]

Why are we calling this woman foolish? She really isn't - she's a stupid bitch who should be put behind bars. Foolish is far too nice in this context.

[Pyramid*]

Why are we calling this woman foolish? She really isn't - she's a stupid bitch who should be put behind bars. Foolish is far too nice in this context.


In fairness to everyone who has posted on this thread: 'we' aren't.

Some are.

[Stu]

This forum would well and truly crumble without you.

[Patrick]

Got abit worried there - thought someone actually died from Cannabis. That would make any arguments we have regarding legalization alot harder to win.

The woman should be slayed. End of story. I agree Vicky.

[Pyramid*]

This forum would well and truly crumble without you.

What a random comment that has not one thing to do with the subject. A contribution towards the topic of the thread would have been nice: helps keep the flow of discussion going.

[Stu]

Yes we all know your opinion on this. It's an opinion you contradict by driving the thread even further off topic by feeling the need to repeat this opinion multiple times.

But we're ignoring that bit ... right?

[Shanna]

Honestly...I couldn't possibly type what's going through my head right now.

First off...despite different stories appearing from different sources, as someone previously mentioned, the facts remain the same.

Asleep at 12.40pm = Neglect
A hungry and thirsty child = Neglect
The fact the poison was where a child could reach it = Sheer stupidity
The toddler fending for himself = Neglect

Accident or not, which mother, infact parent or responsible human being in their right mind leaves ANYTHING harmful to a child at arms length. Isn't this why child locks and gates were invented? In my own opinion it's nothing other than poor parenting and neglect.

I certainly hope she doesn't still have custody of her other child. To me, this isn't a tragic accident. It was preventable and I'm disgusted.

[InOne]

Terrible tragedy, must've been awful for the tot :( I'm not going to express any faux outrage but it does seem far too lenient.

[Kizzy]

Honestly...I couldn't possibly type what's going through my head right now.

First off...despite different stories appearing from different sources, as someone previously mentioned, the facts remain the same.

Asleep at 12.40pm = Neglect
A hungry and thirsty child = Neglect
The fact the poison was where a child could reach it = Sheer stupidity
The toddler fending for himself = Neglect

Accident or not, which mother, infact parent or responsible human being in their right mind leaves ANYTHING harmful to a child at arms length. Isn't this why child locks and gates were invented? In my own opinion it's nothing other than poor parenting and neglect.

I certainly hope she doesn't still have custody of her other child. To me, this isn't a tragic accident. It was preventable and I'm disgusted.

Ditto, that poor little boy...

[Redway]

In fairness to everyone who has posted on this thread: 'we' aren't.

Some are.

Pyramid, when I said 'we' I didn't mean everyone - I'm only referring to those who actually were, in my opinion, too lenient and only called her 'foolish' Gramatically I may be wrong, which is to your advantage, but I hope now you understand what I meant.