Why Live Feed won't return

[Jarrod]

Upon Channel 5 purchasing Big Brother, intitally a Live Streaming was confirmed, but was further looked into by Desmond the ratings for Big Brother were predicted to be about 1.1 mill a 24 hour Live Streaming could not be covered over that amount of viewership, even though Jeff Ford did clearly state "We could have done it if we wanted to". This news sent fans into backlash with over 1 million emails alone being sent to Channel 5 over the absense of Live Feed.

Channel 5 then re-launched a one hour streaming on 5* after evictions which has attracted the highest ratings for the channel. An insider has spoken to us an told us why Channel 5 will never bring back the Live Feed as long as viewerships stay as under 2 mill. "When Big Brother was big back in it's Channel 4 days all the big newspapers talked about it

The show also had major sponsors at the time like Virign who helped fund the Live Streaming, the only way for a 24 hour Live Feed to return is if the show starts producing old viewership figuires like Big Brother had at least in it's Ninth series, which is most likley to never happen as Jeff Ford said himself the old fans have moved on, and fans are starting to get used to the fact that there is no 24 Hour Live Streaming, but I do believe that if all goes well Channel 5 will find away to incoperate further Live Feed programs into it's schedule if BB13 and CBB10 have successful ratings.

http://worldofbb.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/15675980-pre-bbuk-insiders-reveal-why-24-hour-live-feed-will-never-return-in-it-s-old-form

Don't know how true this is, but it's worth a read. So basically if we want a live feed we need at least 3.6 million viewers on average.

[Matt]

Load of bullcrap - the final Channel 4 series had live feed yet it attracted far less average viewers.

The bottom line is, Jeff Ford has admitted that they have the money to run live feed if they want to. Therefore, there's only one reason they haven't brought it back - greater editorial control.

[Pronshi]

He says about producing less than 2 million yet CBB does that.

Then he goes on to say how the ratings need to be at least 9th's ratings which is averaging 3.6 million which is not far off 4 million.

****ing hell make up your mind.

[Sawyer]

Hats just from some freewebs website. Some fan has written that and speculated that that could bethe case. While probably correct, it isn't anything concrete.

[Marcus.]

Shame about live feed

#TeamRebecca

[Jack_]

The bottom line is, Jeff Ford has admitted that they have the money to run live feed if they want to. Therefore, there's only one reason they haven't brought it back - greater editorial control.

[2]

There's absolutely no excuses for not providing 24/7 live feed, it's just piss poor. If the poorest countries in the world can do it, so can we.

[Blink_Me]

They could afford to stream live feed it they wanted to. They just want to show you what they want.

[Jarrod]

Which is why i said i don't really know how true this is.

[BBDodge]

They are spending the LF money on celebs to stick in the proper BB house, like Pamela Anderson.

The only way to get LF back is to be rid of C5 and the only way to be rid of C5 is to get even lower ratings, which won't make BB a desirable option for other broadcasters.

Desmond is immersed in celeb culture through his newspapers and magazines. Taditional proper BB was in trouble from the moment Desmond took control of 5.

[Marcus.]

We need to to to that and bring back live feed

#TeamRebecca

[Callum]

They are spending the LF money on celebs to stick in the proper BB house, like Pamela Anderson.

The only way to get LF back is to be rid of C5 and the only way to be rid of C5 is to get even lower ratings, which won't make BB a desirable option for other broadcasters.

Desmond is immersed in celeb culture through his newspapers and magazines. Taditional proper BB was in trouble from the moment Desmond took control of 5.

Who would pick up BB after C5? Likely, nobody. Channel 4 don't want it and BBC and ITV would never go near Big Brother. Be grateful C5 picked it up.

[Marcus.]

Who would pick up BB after C5? Likely, nobody. Channel 4 don't want it and BBC and ITV would never go near Big Brother. Be grateful C5 picked it up.

I am happy for C5 to have Big Brother

#TeamRebecca

[DigitalSid]

I am happy for C5 to have Big Brother

#TeamRebecca

Agreed. Though I want a live feed, at least they are glad to have the show. Channel 4 were ashamed of it.

[Marcus.]

Agreed. Though I want a live feed, at least they are glad to have the show. Channel 4 were ashamed of it.

How i see it at lest we have Big Brother be happy whith it

#TeamRebecaa

[Maia]

Even if they don't want to do it for free, what's stopping them from doing a subscription feed that people pay for?

[LaLaLand]

They could afford to stream live feed it they wanted to. They just want to show you what they want.

Truth!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Even if they don't want to do it for free, what's stopping them from doing a subscription feed that people pay for?

Exactly, it's one excuse after another, basically they just want total control, of what us the viewers see.:devil:

[Marcus.]

Where there puppets they what us to see what they want us to see

#TeamRebecca

[g17m]

^^^ what?

[Samuel.]

Just because they could afford it doesn't mean it'd be worth their time.

[Marcus.]

^^^ what?

We are all pupptes they whant us to see what they wants us to see

#TeamRebecca

[g17m]

^^^ seriously, are you kidding?

[Patrick]

Silly wankers. The only way Big Brother could ever come close to getting the 'BB9 Standard' of ratings back - is if they ******ing install a Live Feed around the clock.

Jeff Ford thinks old fans have moved on? I'm sorry. But I really want Jeff Ford to fall and hurt himself, badly. He's a ******ing tool who has no idea what he's talking about. The old fans may of 'moved on' after BB10 - because that's when everything started going wrong, once the live feed was took away.
And the primary basis of the show was demolished, then of course by BB11 it was already too late and by that stage the producers decided to turn it into a kids show.

This is exactly why the ratings fell so dramatically. And the fact they can't see that is a joke.

'New fans are beginning to get use to the live feed being absent'
No, because 'new fans' are a pack of chavs who tune in 3 times a week to see what hunks are in the house. The REAL fans however, haven't 'got use to it'. We're simply fed up ******ing trying our best to get the message through to their ill-educated little minds, that a live feed is what Big Brother is built on.

[Marcus.]

^^^ seriously, are you kidding?

stopped it now sorry

[g17m]

Silly wankers. The only way Big Brother could ever come close to getting the 'BB9 Standard' of ratings back - is if they ******ing install a Live Feed around the clock.

Jeff Ford thinks old fans have moved on? I'm sorry. But I really want Jeff Ford to fall and hurt himself, badly. He's a ******ing tool who has no idea what he's talking about. The old fans may of 'moved on' after BB10 - because that's when everything started going wrong, once the live feed was took away.
And the primary basis of the show was demolished, then of course by BB11 it was already too late and by that stage the producers decided to turn it into a kids show.

This is exactly why the ratings fell so dramatically. And the fact they can't see that is a joke.

'New fans are beginning to get use to the live feed being absent'
No, because 'new fans' are a pack of chavs who tune in 3 times a week to see what hunks are in the house. The REAL fans however, haven't 'got use to it'. We're simply fed up ******ing trying our best to get the message through to their ill-educated little minds, that a live feed is what Big Brother is built on.

If you were to write a book, i would buy it. Your rants are ****ing awesome

[Scotty07]

No live feed, because they need to put all their energy into offering zelebs odd jobs as there isn't enough room for them all in just two ZBBs a year.:mad:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

No live feed, because they need to put all their energy into offering zelebs odd jobs as there isn't enough room for them all in just two ZBBs a year.:mad:

:joker::joker::joker:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They say papers dont cover BB as much anymore but thats due to them not being able to create breaking stories from watching and grabbing pics for headlines from live feed.

Stupid people.

[Samuel.]

Like any paper would cover a washed up show like Big Brother anyway. There's just not enough interest.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Like any paper would cover a washed up show like Big Brother anyway. There's just not enough interest.

The sun, the mail , the independent, the mirror and the star all still cover it.

[Samuel.]

The sun, the mail , the independent, the mirror and the star all still cover it.

But barely. You're deluding yourself if you think live feed would bring more Big Brother-related stories. Doubt the people they'd have covering it would even watch the live feed. We're talking about such a tiny portion of the viewers.

Y'all want to believe live feed has this huge impact, but it really doesn't. The viewing figures would be minuscule. There's no real benefit for them to bring it back, and that's why they won't.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

But barely. You're deluding yourself if you think live feed would bring more Big Brother-related stories. Doubt the people they'd have covering it would even watch the live feed. We're talking about such a tiny portion of the viewers.

Y'all want to believe live feed has this huge impact, but it really doesn't. The viewing figures would be minuscule. There's no real benefit for them to bring it back, and that's why they won't.

1 million viewers tuned into last years hour of live feed.

Get your facts right.

[Samuel.]

1 million viewers tuned into last years hour of live feed.

Get your facts right.

That doesn't mean anything. It was right an eviction, right? One concentrated hour. A 24/7 live feed wouldn't get anywhere near that. One hour after an eviction/event is the only time it'd be worth airing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

That doesn't mean anything. It was right an eviction, right? One concentrated hour. A 24/7 live feed wouldn't get anywhere near that. One hour after an eviction/event is the only time it'd be worth airing.

You're in the minority.

Most true BB fans want live feed back and are even willing to pay for it.

[Samuel.]

You're in the minority.

Most true BB fans want live feed back and are even willing to pay for it.

"True BB fans", lol.

I want it back, but I'm not going to make a fuss over it.

Minority of tens of thousands of fans, if that. Not enough to where it'd matter.

[JohnnyBB]

Load of bullcrap - the final Channel 4 series had live feed yet it attracted far less average viewers.

The bottom line is, Jeff Ford has admitted that they have the money to run live feed if they want to. Therefore, there's only one reason they haven't brought it back - greater editorial control.

Im More Dissapointed In Bbspy The Biggest Fan Site Channel 5 Even Respect them they should be fighting for live feed kicking up a fuss but there not, and i have no idea why you arnt putting the pressure on more? :nono:

[thesheriff443]

old fans are still watching without live feed new fans are watching without live feed
even if you had live feed you would still get people moaning that live feed is dead

[Patrick]

I just don't get why the crowd don't start a massive Live Feed chant at the launch or an eviction tbh...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

old fans are still watching without live feed new fans are watching without live feed
even if you had live feed you would still get people moaning that live feed is dead

Regular BB has lost over 1 and a half million viewers actually so i dont know why you think old and new fans are still watching.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

You're in the minority.

Most true BB fans want live feed back and are even willing to pay for it.

Well said daniel:xyxwave:

[Shanna]

Jeff Ford thinks the 'old fans have moved on'. Yeah sure, that's why you have hundreds of people on BB forums frantically showing their disgust at having no live feed. Not to mention offline, I have loads of friends and family...who's only reason for not watching anymore is because there is "no point" when there is no live feed. All that's being shown is a load of edited crap that's no better than that of what is already being shown on reality shows, such as TOWIE. The point of the show is to watch REAL people live in the house and see them for who THEY are....not what you (c5) want us to see!!!

I have watched EVERY single Big Brother and in the past, rather than watch any shows, I'd watch the live feed. Hell I'd even pay a subscription for it, and I know there are a ton of you who will feel the same way.

Bring back the live bloody feed. Arrrgh!!!!! This annoys me so much as a huge BB fan :(

[Marcus.]

Jeff Ford thinks the 'old fans have moved on'. Yeah sure, that's why you have hundreds of people on BB forums frantically showing their disgust at having no live feed. Not to mention offline, I have loads of friends and family...who's only reason for not watching anymore is because there is "no point" when there is no live feed. All that's being shown is a load of edited crap that's no better than that of what is already being shown on reality shows, such as TOWIE. The point of the show is to watch REAL people live in the house and see them for who THEY are....not what you (c5) want us to see!!!

I have watched EVERY single Big Brother and in the past, rather than watch any shows, I'd watch the live feed. Hell I'd even pay a subscription for it, and I know there are a ton of you who will feel the same way.

Bring back the live bloody feed. Arrrgh!!!!! This annoys me so much as a huge BB fan :(

I watched Big Brother when BB9 was on and i would like live feed

[Jack_]

I'm sorry but it's not even a debate about whether it's 'worth it' or not, it's a fundamental, basic element of the format of Big Brother. If every country, even the poorest, has 24/7 live feed available for their Big Brother, there is absolutely no excuses why we can't have it here. It's just embarrassing and a total mockery of the premise of the show.

It doesn't differentiate itself from other similar reality TV shows anymore, it can so easily be compared to the likes of TOWIE, Made In Chelsea, I'm A Celebrity etc, when just a few years ago it was the daddy of all reality TV. Now, as some people say (including myself) - it's just another TV show.

There are no cons to having live feed, it's all advantages. There is no possible way you can properly get to know a bunch of housemates with 48 minutes of condensed footage a night. There's no way you can get as 'into' the show as you could before, as much as I still watched last year I could quite easily have missed a few and not been bothered. Like I said, it was just another TV show that I watch.

C5 have taken the format and shat all over it. You cannot justify not providing a 24/7 live feed service, even on a paid subscription when many are willing to fork out for it. It is essential, that is what Big Brother is and always has been - being able to watch them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Without that, it is not Big Brother. And they can create just about any storyline and narrative they wish, and none of us would have a ****ing clue.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I'm sorry but it's not even a debate about whether it's 'worth it' or not, it's a fundamental, basic element of the format of Big Brother. If every country, even the poorest, has 24/7 live feed available for their Big Brother, there is absolutely no excuses why we can't have it here. It's just embarrassing and a total mockery of the premise of the show.

It doesn't differentiate itself from other similar reality TV shows anymore, it can so easily be compared to the likes of TOWIE, Made In Chelsea, I'm A Celebrity etc, when just a few years ago it was the daddy of all reality TV. Now, as some people say (including myself) - it's just another TV show.

There are no cons to having live feed, it's all advantages. There is no possible way you can properly get to know a bunch of housemates with 48 minutes of condensed footage a night. There's no way you can get as 'into' the show as you could before, as much as I still watched last year I could quite easily have missed a few and not been bothered. Like I said, it was just another TV show that I watch.

C5 have taken the format and shat all over it. You cannot justify not providing a 24/7 live feed service, even on a paid subscription when many are willing to fork out for it. It is essential, that is what Big Brother is and always has been - being able to watch them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Without that, it is not Big Brother. And they can create just about any storyline and narrative they wish, and none of us would have a ****ing clue.
Great post, absolutely agree.

[Marcus.]

Great post, absolutely agree.

we need it back

[Patrick]

Well said Jack.

I honestly think they should stop using the name Big Brother tbh. I mean clearly what they wanted was The Only Way Is Essex - but in a house. And they got it. But because their last stint like this failed [Back to Reality] they've decided to take the Big Brother name and bastardize the hell out of it.

[DigitalSid]

we need it back

We do, but from what BBSpy's been told, it's not going to happen.

[Jake.]

Well said Jack.

I honestly think they should stop using the name Big Brother tbh. I mean clearly what they wanted was The Only Way Is Essex - but in a house. And they got it. But because their last stint like this failed [Back to Reality] they've decided to take the Big Brother name and bastardize the hell out of it.

Yet you liked BB12? My God, you do show contradiction at times...

[Patrick]

I liked BB12 as it was an improvement on BB11.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well said Jack.

I honestly think they should stop using the name Big Brother tbh. I mean clearly what they wanted was The Only Way Is Essex - but in a house. And they got it. But because their last stint like this failed [Back to Reality] they've decided to take the Big Brother name and bastardize the hell out of it.

Embaressingly "Back to Reality" averaged the same ammount of viewers as BB12 lol plus had a live feed.

Shame on Channel 5.

[DigitalSid]

Embaressingly "Back to Reality" averaged the same ammount of viewers as BB12 lol plus had a live feed.

Shame on Channel 5.

:laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yet you liked BB12? My God, you do show contradiction at times...

I think Patrick means BB12 returned to a more grown up BB where housemates were actually allowed alcohol, parties. Were allowed to have proper arguments without BB interupting just incase any offence was caused to viewers and Channel 5 were not afraid to air controvercy.

BB12 was the best series since BB9 and if it had had a live feed would have been a classic.

[Maia]

I'm sorry but it's not even a debate about whether it's 'worth it' or not, it's a fundamental, basic element of the format of Big Brother. If every country, even the poorest, has 24/7 live feed available for their Big Brother, there is absolutely no excuses why we can't have it here. It's just embarrassing and a total mockery of the premise of the show.

It doesn't differentiate itself from other similar reality TV shows anymore, it can so easily be compared to the likes of TOWIE, Made In Chelsea, I'm A Celebrity etc, when just a few years ago it was the daddy of all reality TV. Now, as some people say (including myself) - it's just another TV show.

There are no cons to having live feed, it's all advantages. There is no possible way you can properly get to know a bunch of housemates with 48 minutes of condensed footage a night. There's no way you can get as 'into' the show as you could before, as much as I still watched last year I could quite easily have missed a few and not been bothered. Like I said, it was just another TV show that I watch.

C5 have taken the format and shat all over it. You cannot justify not providing a 24/7 live feed service, even on a paid subscription when many are willing to fork out for it. It is essential, that is what Big Brother is and always has been - being able to watch them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Without that, it is not Big Brother. And they can create just about any storyline and narrative they wish, and none of us would have a ****ing clue.

10/10 post

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Just grabbed this from From 2004

Check out the voting graphics...See anything familiar?

Ooh also check out Jade Goody in classic aggresive action lol Just proves again that Jade wasnt racist just had a mega temper and hates "Liars". This argument is so similar to her and Shilpas sometimes word for word.

2sFLMTQqG7s

[Patrick]

OMG DAN :laugh2:

[reece(:]

I'm sick of their poor editing in HMs favour, for instance: Jay, just let us have the feed back and make our own decisions instead of shoving the producers favourites down our throats.

[MTVN]

Oh not this "Jay was the producers favourite" crap again :bored:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:joker:

2045

2046

[rk3388]

its funny cause i think aaron was the producers favorite

[Jack_]

Just grabbed this from From 2004

Check out the voting graphics...See anything familiar?

Ooh also check out Jade Goody in classic aggresive action lol Just proves again that Jade wasnt racist just had a mega temper and hates "Liars". This argument is so similar to her and Shilpas sometimes word for word.

2sFLMTQqG7s

Seriously, that actually looks like a better produced show than Big Brother is nowadays. Puts things into perspective doesn't it really.