Ashleigh - Worst first impressions ever?

[Cynical]

In the history of big brother, I don't think i've disliked a housemate so much after just 2 shows.

For me, this girl represents everything that is wrong with our society. I usually like the 'controversial' characters and hope they stay in, but in her case I hope the public bin her as soon as she's up. She makes my skin crawl every time she opens her mouth. The 'essex' act is absolutely tragic.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I agree, that conversation about "water sports" last night was cringeworthy

[Marcus.]

i starting to think not to support her

[ChristmasNeeve]

i starting to think not to support her

Bit early to make a proper decision on who to support yet anyway, I think, give them a few days at least!

[jackc1806]

I like her as yet

[Marcus.]

Bit early to make a proper decision on who to support yet anyway, I think, give them a few days at least!

yeah it only an draft at mo ( Rebecca not inclued )

[In the Drunk Tank]

Think she just got a bit too drunk, it was like Rebeckah on launch night all over again

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah but who actually talks about pissing on people...........even when drunk? :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Bet she woke up and thought....nooooo ....haha

[jackc1806]

Yeah but who actually talks about pissing on people...........even when drunk? :laugh:
I loved how blunt Shivonne was... "She's talking about Golden Showers!"

[maryse12]

Agreed! Bad first impression Ash!

[TheManWhoLaughs]

Chris seemed much worse.

Ashleigh's loud but she doesn't bother me yet - and she's probably doomed as she's a woman with a personality.

[Cynical]

Talking about golden showers the way she did is obviously a no-no when trying to win over other people. However, it's the constant screaming, swearing and "dumb essex girl" routine that is really getting on my tits.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Chris seemed much worse.

Ashleigh's loud but she doesn't bother me yet - and she's probably doomed as she's a woman with a personality.

Not being crass and vile doesn't mean you don't have a personality

[anto42]

that watersports talk i had a flashback to rebeckah of last year she talked about watersports on the first night as well

[Josy]

Not being crass and vile doesn't mean you don't have a personality

This.

She's annoying to watch so far imo, she needs to tone it down a bit.

[HBB1508]

Talking about golden showers the way she did is obviously a no-no when trying to win over other people. However, it's the constant screaming, swearing and "dumb essex girl" routine that is really getting on my tits.

This - couldn't agree more the sooner she is gone the better imo.

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree, that conversation about "water sports" last night was cringeworthy

Terrible, she made herself look cheap and seedy ,If you remember Rebecca did same thing last year on opening night, and look where it got her

[ChristmasNeeve]

Terrible, she made herself look cheap and seedy ,If you remember Rebecca did same thing last year on opening night, and look where it got her

Yeah, you would wonder if she watched at all last year

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah, you would wonder if she watched at all last year

Doesnt it just? she really is making a fool of herself, but she wont last long

[Holly Christmas]

She'll be out first time she gets nommed, which will probably be next week :pipe:

[fruit_cake]

she seems a lot of fun and a bit loopy, all the ingredients are there for a great housemate imo

[ChristmasNeeve]

Doesnt it just? she really is making a fool of herself, but she wont last long

Yeah, I reckon she'll get nominated pretty quick, conversations like that will make people feel uncomfortable I think

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah, I reckon she'll get nominated pretty quick, conversations like that will make people feel uncomfortable I think

Add to that shes overbearing, got to be heard and shes all the makings of being in for an early exit, Caroline too, I noticed last night when she was talking to Benedict, she wasnt letting him finish what he was saying, but butting in ,signs of being self centred ,no easy people to live with

[Josy]

Add to that shes overbearing, got to be heard and shes all the makings of being in for an early exit, Caroline too, I noticed last night when she was talking to Benedict, she wasnt letting him finish what he was saying, but butting in ,signs of being self centred ,no easy people to live with

I noticed this last night, thought it was pretty ignorant tbh but then thought maybe it was just excitement with it being the first night, I will wait and see what she's like over the next few days.

[joeysteele]

Add to that shes overbearing, got to be heard and shes all the makings of being in for an early exit, Caroline too, I noticed last night when she was talking to Benedict, she wasnt letting him finish what he was saying, but butting in ,signs of being self centred ,no easy people to live with

I agree with what you say above completely.
Caroline came across very ignorant last night. I am still not sure what to make of these 2 yet.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Add to that shes overbearing, got to be heard and shes all the makings of being in for an early exit, Caroline too, I noticed last night when she was talking to Benedict, she wasnt letting him finish what he was saying, but butting in ,signs of being self centred ,no easy people to live with

I noticed this last night, thought it was pretty ignorant tbh but then thought maybe it was just excitement with it being the first night, I will wait and see what she's like over the next few days.

I agree with both these points, I'll have to give them a few days to settle in I think before I judge them properly (that sounds terrible) :laugh:

[Urban Cragou]

Yeah.

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree with what you say above completely.
Caroline came across very ignorant last night. I am still not sure what to make of these 2 yet.

Yes she did, I cant see either of them lasting long

[Black Dagger]

She's foul... I love how Lauren just shook her head at her when she was talking about pissing on people, the tramp.

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree with both these points, I'll have to give them a few days to settle in I think before I judge them properly (that sounds terrible) :laugh:

First impressions are usually right, and on entering I disliked them both and last night they both annoyed me even more !! :xyxwave::xyxwave:

[fruit_cake]

Add to that shes overbearing, got to be heard and shes all the makings of being in for an early exit, Caroline too, I noticed last night when she was talking to Benedict, she wasnt letting him finish what he was saying, but butting in ,signs of being self centred ,no easy people to live with

she might have been really nervous, he is quite a dominating type to be fair. Although I do agree with the sentiment that it doesn't look to good at this point.

[chuff me dizzy]

She's foul... I love how Lauren just shook her head at her when she was talking about pissing on people, the tramp.

I like Lauren, she seem the nicest girl in there

[ChristmasNeeve]

First impressions are usually right, and on entering I disliked them both and last night they both annoyed me even more !! :xyxwave::xyxwave:

lol, I never trust my own first impression of people...........I'm usually wrong :laugh:

[lostalex]

people like to piss on eachother. get over it. Is that really still shocking in 2012?

[chuff me dizzy]

lol, I never trust my own first impression of people...........I'm usually wrong :laugh:

Im usually not far out on first impressions, they only one I got BADLY wrong was liking Makosi on her opening night, she turned into my worst hm8 of all time

[chuff me dizzy]

people like to piss on eachother. get over it. Is that really still shocking in 2012?

Maybe its your idea of a good time,but its not mine :yuk::idc:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Im usually not far out on first impressions, they only one I got BADLY wrong was liking Makosi on her opening night, she turned into my worst hm8 of all time

Makosi was an amazingly entertaining HM though

[ChristmasNeeve]

people like to piss on eachother. get over it. Is that really still shocking in 2012?

What people chose to do in their own bedrooms is their own business, I don't particularly want to hear about it though

[chuff me dizzy]

Makosi was an amazingly entertaining HM though

Not a single other English hm8 has wound me up like she did, She sent my blood pressure soaring :devil::devil::devil:

[lostalex]

Maybe its your idea of a good time,but its not mine :yuk::idc:

when did i say it was my idea of a good time?

[chuff me dizzy]

What people chose to do in their own bedrooms is their own business, I don't particularly want to hear about it though

Exactly ,keep it in the bedroom/bathroom and to yourself, why make yourself look cheap on national tv ?

[fruit_cake]

Ashleigh is already stirring up the public it seems

[lostalex]

Exactly ,keep it in the bedroom/bathroom and to yourself, why make yourself look cheap on national tv ?
ummm, newsflash, their bedroom is full of cameras. The entire POINT of BB is to watch them in their bedroom and every other room...

All sex is a disgusting exchange of bodily fluids. That's what people like about it.

[chuff me dizzy]

ummm, newsflash, their bedroom is full of cameras. The entire POINT of BB is to watch them in their bedroom and every other room...

HER bedroom in HER home :bored:

[Black Dagger]

people like to piss on eachother. get over it. Is that really still shocking in 2012?

Yeah, maybe they do, doesn't mean I need to hear the tramp talk about it :idc:

[Kizzy]

she was drunk, it was a silly thing to say.... Im reserving judgement

[chuff me dizzy]

she was drunk, it was a silly thing to say.... Im reserving judgement

PLEASE dont start the"she was drunk"excuses already, how many drinks did they have? :bored:

[fruit_cake]

as far as I can remember she said something like "it's normal for boys to like pissing on girls" I wonder what kind of weird relationships she's been involved in beforehand in much the same way as Rebeckah from the last series.

[ChristmasNeeve]

PLEASE dont start the"she was drunk"excuses already, how many drinks did they have? :bored:

lol, she did actually neck two glasses of champagne the minute she walked through the door so I reckon she genuinely was pretty drunk by that time :laugh:

[ChristmasNeeve]

as far as I can remember she said something like "it's normal for boys to like pissing on girls" I wonder what kind of weird relationships she's been involved in beforehand in much the same way as Rebeckah from the last series.

Yeah that was a weird thing to say, I've never heard any men say they'd like a girl to wee on them

[chuff me dizzy]

lol, she did actually neck two glasses of champagne the minute she walked through the door so I reckon she genuinely was pretty drunk by that time :laugh:

2 whole glasses ????????? :joker:

[fruit_cake]

I think she said it was 'boys that like pissing on girls' maybe I'm wrong though

[In the Drunk Tank]

She said every guy wants to piss on a girl or something I think

[Cynical]

people like to piss on eachother. get over it. Is that really still shocking in 2012?


I find it enormously shocking! Each to their own and all that, but how the hell can anyone get a kick out of getting pissed on?!

I think she was saying it for effect/attention anyway.

[ChristmasNeeve]

2 whole glasses ????????? :joker:

lol no I mean that was in the first 3 minutes of entering the house so if she kept that pace up, she would be quite drunk..................still think it's a weird thing to talk about but I do think she was pretty drunk as well

[chuff me dizzy]

lol no I mean that was in the first 3 minutes of entering the house so if she kept that pace up, she would be quite drunk..................still think it's a weird thing to talk about but I do think she was pretty drunk as well

You know yourself BB never give them enough drink to make them as drunk as they make out they are

[chuff me dizzy]

I find it enormously shocking! Each to their own and all that, but how the hell can anyone get a kick out of getting pissed on?!

I think she was saying it for effect/attention anyway.

Not only do i find it shocking i find it sick

[Kizzy]

Can you all pass your halos to the left for polishing ..... :)

[fruit_cake]

Can you all pass your halos to the left for polishing ..... :)

:joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Can you all pass your halos to the left for polishing ..... :)

I dont own a halo,but have loads of morals if anyone needs to lend some

[Livia]

Nothing wrong with being a little experimental... but if someone wanted to piss on me I'd take it as a sign that the relationship was well and truly over.

[chuff me dizzy]

Nothing wrong with being a little experimental... but if someone wanted to piss on me I'd take it as a sign that the relationship was well and truly over.

Before or after you smacked them in the mouth ? :joker:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Nothing wrong with being a little experimental... but if someone wanted to piss on me I'd take it as a sign that the relationship was well and truly over.

Amen to that.

[FaLaLaLand]

I thought it was hilarious! She's such a character and just doesn't seem to give a ****, which is great. Arron's reaction was priceless too!

[chuff me dizzy]

I thought it was hilarious! She's such a character and just doesn't seem to give a ****, which is great. Arron's reaction was priceless too!

She needs to start "giving a ****" shes making herself look cheap and dirty

[lostalex]

Nothing wrong with being a little experimental... but if someone wanted to piss on me I'd take it as a sign that the relationship was well and truly over.
what if they wanted you to piss on them? would it still be as offensive?

[Livia]

what if they wanted you to piss on them? would it still be as offensive?

Yes, it would be just as offensive. But possibly there are things I may be willing to do that others wouldn't. It's all about personal boudaries isn't it. What goes on between consenting adults in private is their business... but the pissing thing is not for me.

[wetpantsmike]

Yeah but who actually talks about pissing on people...........even when drunk? :laugh:
I do.

Even when sober.


people like to piss on eachother. get over it. Is that really still shocking in 2012?
It shouldn't be.

But even if you are shocked, to react the way that some people here have reacted is unacceptable.

BB puts cameras in the bedroom, the bathroom, all over the place. It deliberately creates a voyeuristic environment. If people are too narrow minded to behave with equanimity when what they see is not what they like, if they think that somehow the housemates should be chosen to only do and talk about things which fit their preconceived notions of what is right and what is wrong then I suggest that they should not watch it.

I, for one, would love Ashleigh to pee on me, but I accept that that sort of thing is not for everyone (but it's probably more popular than people think).

If she'd said she likes to tie men up and stick needles in their ***** then that would not be for me, but I wouldn't dream of attacking her for it, nor anybody who said "ooh yes please".

The prudish intolerance displayed by people here who have chosen to watch a show aimed at voyeurs (in the wide sense, not the sexual fetish meaning) is staggering.

And as for chuff me dizzy saying that he'd consider physical violence an acceptable reaction to being asked to partake in a sex act he didn't fancy, well, words fail me.

[Livia]

I do.

Even when sober.



It shouldn't be.

But even if you are shocked, to react the way that some people here have reacted is unacceptable.

BB puts cameras in the bedroom, the bathroom, all over the place. It deliberately creates a voyeuristic environment. If people are too narrow minded to behave with equanimity when what they see is not what they like, if they think that somehow the housemates should be chosen to only do and talk about things which fit their preconceived notions of what is right and what is wrong then I suggest that they should not watch it.

I, for one, would love Ashleigh to pee on me, but I accept that that sort of thing is not for everyone (but it's probably more popular than people think).

If she'd said she likes to tie men up and stick needles in their ***** then that would not be for me, but I wouldn't dream of attacking her for it, nor anybody who said "ooh yes please".

The prudish intolerance displayed by people here who have chosen to watch a show aimed at voyeurs (in the wide sense, not the sexual fetish meaning) is staggering.

And as for chuff me dizzy saying that he'd consider physical violence an acceptable reaction to being asked to partake in a sex act he didn't fancy, well, words fail me.


A twenty year old airhead from Essex says she like boys to piss on her on her first night in the BB House, some people on the forum say that's kind of unacceptable... and you call that prudish intolerence? This is a Big Brother forum in case it's escaped your notice. We're all here to discuss the housemates and air our views. What's staggering is that, eloquent as you are, you've failed to grasp that.

[fruit_cake]

A twenty year old airhead from Essex says she like boys to piss on her on her first night in the BB House, some people on the forum say that's kind of unacceptable... and you call that prudish intolerence? This is a Big Brother forum in case it's escaped your notice. We're all here to discuss the housemates and air our views. What's staggering is that, eloquent as you are, you've failed to grasp that.

as far as I'm aware she said that 'boys like to piss on girls'. It's not the same thing at all as 'I like boys to piss on me'.

[wetpantsmike]

I got the distinct impression, not changed by re-reading, that people were complaining that she said it at all, not just that she said it on the first night.

Maybe some of those who complained could say how many days into the show she could have said it and they wouldn't have criticised her for it.

And of course this forum is for people to air their views. The view I'm airing is that those who choose to watch people doing, or talking about, what goes on between consenting adults in private should accept that sometimes they'll see or hear about things that they wouldn't want to do themselves.

[Livia]

I got the distinct impression, not changed by re-reading, that people were complaining that she said it at all, not just that she said it on the first night.

Maybe some of those who complained could say how many days into the show she could have said it and they wouldn't have criticised her for it.

And of course this forum is for people to air their views. The view I'm airing is that those who choose to watch people doing, or talking about, what goes on between consenting adults in private should accept that sometimes they'll see or hear about things that they wouldn't want to do themselves.

Four posts and I'm putting you on ignore already. That's got to be some kind of record. As you haven't been here long enough to know that Chuff Me Dizzy is a female, I doubt whether you've acquainted yourself with the rules yet. We're not here to discuss other forum members, who can say what they feel even if it doesn't fit in with you. We're here to discuss housemates.

[lostalex]

Yes, it would be just as offensive. But possibly there are things I may be willing to do that others wouldn't. It's all about personal boudaries isn't it. What goes on between consenting adults in private is their business... but the pissing thing is not for me.

Ic, well that's fair enuf. I'm the same way.

I once dated a guy who was obsessed with arm pits, and i was like, look you can lick my arm pits all you want, but just don't ask me to return the favor, cause i have no interest.

But i agree, everyone has their own limitations and own fetishes and own interests. Everyone's sexuality is unique. It's dumb to just define sexuality by gay or str8 or bi, there are millions of sexualities. Some people like feet, arm pits, piss, bondage, candle wax, anything you can think of someone is into it.

I'm just surprised people are still shocked by this stuff.

[InOne]

Four posts and I'm putting you on ignore already. That's got to be some kind of record. As you haven't been here long enough to know that Chuff Me Dizzy is a female, I doubt whether you've acquainted yourself with the rules yet. We're not here to discuss other forum members, who can say what they feel even if it doesn't fit in with you. We're here to discuss housemates.

I think it's gonna be a long summer... lol

[arista]

I agree, that conversation about "water sports" last night was cringeworthy


Gutter Sex

[Livia]

Ic, well that's fair enuf. I'm the same way.

I once dated a guy who was obsessed with arm pits, and i was like, look you can lick my arm pits all you want, but just don't ask me to return the favor, cause i have no interest.

But i agree, everyone has their own limitations and own fetishes and own interests. Everyone's sexuality is unique. It's dumb to just define sexuality by gay or str8 or bi, there are millions of sexualities. Some people like feet, arm pits, piss, bondage, candle wax, anything you can think of someone is into it.

I'm just surprised people are still shocked by this stuff.

Yeah, people are into all sorts of things. Whatever gets you through the night, I say. With Ashleigh though, I think she was just saying that stuff because she knew it would be a bit off the wall, like Rebeckah last year, just saying stuff because she knew it'd make the highlights. It's for attention... and it worked!

[Livia]

I think it's gonna be a long summer... lol

LOL... feel the power of the 'ignore' button...

[wetpantsmike]

Well - I know that Livia won't see this, but I do want to stand my ground. If you look at what people were saying, particularly the exchanges between Niamh and lostalex, and Black Dagger twice calling her a tramp, none of it was because she'd said what she said on the first night, it was because of what she said full stop.

Yes, I know that the forum is for people to discuss housemates, but ultimately they are real people, even if their BB personas are partially false, and the forum members are real people too.

And as real people passing judgements on real people, IMO calling them tramps, cheap, seedy, does deserve to be challenged. I thought that as a society we no longer regarded it as acceptable to call a woman a tramp because of her sexual activities.


Finally, apologies to cmd for getting her gender wrong, but it's not relevant to my position. I don't regard physical violence in a relationship as a laughing matter, and I'm even more surprised that a woman would.


Anyway - I didn't come here as a troll, I simply didn't realise that the forum ethos is that people can say what they like about housemates but not have what they say criticised.

[Kizzy]

critique away for me mike... I defend her right to say what she likes too.
The subject of her convo that night is not my thang, however I feel that the level of animosity toward this young woman for this social faux pas has been blown out of proportion.
It seems a double standard to me that to discuss a sex act is frowned upon and yet to openly discuss your career in the sex industry is not?

[SharkAttack]

she seems a lot of fun and a bit loopy, all the ingredients are there for a great housemate imo

This. Not exactly supporting her to win, as if she could, but I laugh every time she's on-screen before she even opens her trap because you know what's coming. :hugesmile: