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Ella
01-07-2006, 05:48 PM
Im absolutely gutted...well done boys :bored:

lily.
01-07-2006, 05:49 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



oh, and did I mention... hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Pipergun
01-07-2006, 05:51 PM
At least we played fair! :thumbs:

It's nice to see that you can remain dignified in your celebrations Stropz!

lily.
01-07-2006, 05:51 PM
LoL Tom.. of course... :wink::spin:

Corkie
01-07-2006, 05:52 PM
god that was such a nervous match

Ella
01-07-2006, 05:52 PM
At least we got further then some :laugh:

lily.
01-07-2006, 05:52 PM
You should have heard the cheering coming from all over the place up here.. :thumbs:

Pipergun
01-07-2006, 05:52 PM
I think it's happy hour at Scottish pubs across the nation! :laugh:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 05:52 PM
If I was Wayne Rooney, i'd give Ronaldo a less than friendly welcome in the first training session back at Man Utd.

Referee was taking no action until Ronaldo got Rooney sent off.

I'm not surprised, but like you English, we Dutch will have a good laugh at him, when he's in tears, after losing to Brazil in the Semi Finals :laugh:

Lauren
01-07-2006, 05:53 PM
Well Portugal were a good team. I wish them the very best in the World Cup.

PS. Where were Scotland in this years World Cup? :puzzled:

(By the way, I'm only joking about Scotland :laugh:)

Ella
01-07-2006, 05:53 PM
Lol :laugh:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 05:54 PM
we always get cheated

Portugal hav noy chance of win it

ronaldo needs to get out of the prem

lily.
01-07-2006, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
At least we got further then some :laugh:

aye, we're used to not qualifiying... :tongue:

Ella
01-07-2006, 05:55 PM
England are just no good at penalties its not fair im gutted

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 05:55 PM
What confused me, was why did Portugal take their main striker off after Rooney was red carded, and play 4-6-0 for 20 minutes against 10 men.

Sadly we now have Germany, Italy and Portugal, 3 teams who like a bit of cheating, in the Semi's!

Come on BRAZIL!!!!!!

Ella
01-07-2006, 05:56 PM
Yeah im not backing Brazil i dont really want to lol but there the only ones that deserve to win it!

Mike
01-07-2006, 05:56 PM
Gutted for the lads and the fans.

Good to see the fans Chanting to Owen Hargreaves what a game he had.

sol
01-07-2006, 05:57 PM
This sounds so cliched but the referee was awful, no way should Rooney have been sent off. Im absolutely devastated. :bawling:

lily.
01-07-2006, 05:57 PM
You have 2 reasons to hate Portugal now InTheHood... :thumbs:

BB-Rocks
01-07-2006, 05:58 PM
YeeeeHaaaa England are out

Ella
01-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Yeah Owen did us proud...Well theres always 2010 boys!

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 05:58 PM
ronaldo needs to get out of the prem

i hope rooney says somthing to him

lily.
01-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by BB-Rocks
YeeeeHaaaa England are out

*does a little dance with Davie*... even if it is only me & u celebrating.. pass the Irn Bru old chap... :tongue:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah Owen did us proud...Well theres always 2010 boys!

that will be out year

Ella
01-07-2006, 05:59 PM
Rooney should smack him lol...but i dont see the point of violence in football just spoils everything

Mike
01-07-2006, 06:00 PM
Portugal were a total disgrace, you would think their players had been shot the way they roll about.

Pipergun
01-07-2006, 06:01 PM
It is a shame, but I suppose we should remember we managed to hold them off 10-11!

Like ITH said, Ronaldo should remember the country in which he earns his regular salary, nevermind having Rooney as a team mate! There are going to be a lot of unhappy Man Utd fans! :rolleyes:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:01 PM
There just cheating, diving , nasty bastards!

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Mike
Portugal were a total disgrace, you would think their players had been shot the way they roll about.

i though gremany was bad

but there nofin to portugal

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:02 PM
I am so ****ing gutted!!! Nooooo!!!! We totally deserved to win that!!! I can not believe it:bawling:

BB-Rocks
01-07-2006, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by BB-Rocks
YeeeeHaaaa England are out

*does a little dance with Davie*... even if it is only me & u celebrating.. pass the Irn Bru old chap... :tongue:
Yassssssssssssssss:joker:

I could hear my neighoburs screaming when the last goal was scored

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
You have 2 reasons to hate Portugal now InTheHood... :thumbs:

Yeah, my country lost in 2nd round, now my country of residence and country of my wife has lost to Portugal. :bored:

It wouldn't be so bad if they were a side who played good football and were fair in there approach.

We have 3 semi finalists, who are very average :conf:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:03 PM
You woz robbed....







.... NOT!!! :tongue:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:03 PM
we will hav to hope for winlbdon now (cant spell it, tennis)

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
You woz robbed....







.... NOT!!! :tongue:

portugal cheated so we was rodded

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:05 PM
I dont care what anyone says, England deserevd to win this - that penalty that was disallowed should have been allowed definately - then we could have won!!!:mad: Never have i been so mad about anything!:bawling:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
we will hav to hope for winlbdon now (cant spell it, tennis)

All my English friends want Murray to lose and are cheering on Roddick :joker:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by Stropz
You woz robbed....







.... NOT!!! :tongue:

portugal cheated so we was rodded
Yeah, they did. This is SOOO unfair!!!

BB-Rocks
01-07-2006, 06:06 PM
How did they cheat?Lmao

*PlayGirl*
01-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Peter Crouch? Joke.

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:07 PM
y do england always get cheted

it soooooooooooooooooooo annoying

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:08 PM
When did they cheat? I probably missed it the minute they did, although I watched pretty much the whole thing. But AAAAARGH I'm SO annoyed - seriously, even with Rooney (wtf was he doing?!) and Beckham off - hats off to the 10 England players who played so brilliantly! They really gave it their all and they totally deserved to win, whereas Portugal didn't. Gutted doesn't even begin to describe how I'm feeling!! :sad:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by BB-Rocks
How did they cheat?Lmao

do u no anything about football

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by *PlayGirl*
Peter Crouch? Joke.

he was good

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:10 PM
Davie - I wouldn't even bother mate.. you are seriously up against it here.. me & u are well outnumbered... let's just laugh anyway... :laugh:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:11 PM
Like i said we did better then some countries! :tongue:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:11 PM
ENGLAND DESERVED TO WIN SO MUCH MORE THAN PORTUGAL I AM SOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!!!!!! ITS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS AGAINST US!!! WE PLAYED SO BRILLIANTLY WITH ONLY 10 PLAYERS WE PLAYED BETTER THAN THEY DID!!:mad:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:11 PM
If you England fans thought they cheated today, the other night they basically hooliganed Holland out of the Cup.

I hope France don't win tonight, or we'll have 4 average semi finalists :sad:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Like i said we did better then some countries! :tongue:

You take the banter in the spirit it's intended Elz. You know I just love a wind-up.. Good for you, for not taking it all too seriously... :spin2:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
ENGLAND DESERVED TO WIN SO MUCH MORE THAN PORTUGAL I AM SOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!!!!!! ITS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS AGAINST US!!! WE PLAYED SO BRILLIANTLY WITH ONLY 10 PLAYERS WE PLAYED BETTER THAN THEY DID!!:mad:

the ref wanted us to lose

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:12 PM
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better - they did so well as they had less players?

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by jem_stone16
ENGLAND DESERVED TO WIN SO MUCH MORE THAN PORTUGAL I AM SOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!!!!!! ITS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS AGAINST US!!! WE PLAYED SO BRILLIANTLY WITH ONLY 10 PLAYERS WE PLAYED BETTER THAN THEY DID!!:mad:

the ref wanted us to lose
I know! I could kill him!!! I hate him!! Its like he was against us from the start!!!:mad:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:14 PM
ronaldo should be banned from england

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:14 PM
I think we should send him nasty letters :devil:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better ...

Everyone else in England ... nobody else outside england... :laugh:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
ronaldo should be banned from england

LoL.. it wasn't just him... :laugh:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by jem_stone16
ENGLAND DESERVED TO WIN SO MUCH MORE THAN PORTUGAL I AM SOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL!!!!!! ITS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS AGAINST US!!! WE PLAYED SO BRILLIANTLY WITH ONLY 10 PLAYERS WE PLAYED BETTER THAN THEY DID!!:mad:

the ref wanted us to lose
I know! I could kill him!!! I hate him!! Its like he was against us from the start!!!:mad:

rooney would not hav been sent of if ronaldo would hav kept his ugly mouth shut

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better - they did so well as they had less players?

They don't deserve to win because they had less players. It's Rooney's own fault he got sent off.

So just because he stamped on someone's ballbag doesn't mean ye desreved to win.

They're going home, they're going home, they're going. England are going home.

http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/Portugal.gif

I :love: you, Ronaldo!

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better ...

Everyone else in England ... nobody else outside england... :laugh:
Only because youre so smug right now...:rolleyes: you should know that England deserved to win and Portugal did not thats a fact!! We did so well!!!:spin:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I think we should send him nasty letters :devil:

He's fit though lol. I know that's no excuse but......:rolleyes:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Yeah but is was him that got Rooney sent off....lots of Man U fans arent going to be happy

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by simon_ha
ronaldo should be banned from england

LoL.. it wasn't just him... :laugh:

he cot rooney sent off

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better ...

Everyone else in England ... nobody else outside england... :laugh:
Only because youre so smug right now...:rolleyes: you should know that England deserved to win and Portugal did not thats a fact!! We did so well!!!:spin:

I'm just being Scottish dah-lin. The age-old rivalry is world famous.. :wink:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better ...

Everyone else in England ... nobody else outside england... :laugh:
Only because youre so smug right now...:rolleyes: you should know that England deserved to win and Portugal did not thats a fact!! We did so well!!!:spin:

I TOTALLY AGREE. Totally. We really deserved to win; we lost 2 players like Beckham and Rooney, and the 10 players played with all their strength. We couldn't have deserved to win more!!

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I think we should send him nasty letters :devil:

He's fit though lol. I know that's no excuse but......:rolleyes:

Lol i was on about the referee..but yeah ronaldo is the **** lol wit woo

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I think we should send him nasty letters :devil:

He's fit though lol. I know that's no excuse but......:rolleyes:

He certainly is fit... You got that right! :thumbs:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:17 PM
Its Ronaldos damn fault - i hate him - he should not have wound up rooney if he hadnt - we would have won!!! I just know it! I hate him now!:mad:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:17 PM
Found it strange an Argentine Ref in charge of an England game, I do admit.

Thought a European ref would have been better.

England were the better team, but Portugal were so negative.

Let's just hope Brazil win it now, and Ronaldo and the other Porkers cry like big babies, because we Dutch want them to lose more than the English!

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
I feel like crying...

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but is was him that got Rooney sent off....lots of Man U fans arent going to be happy

Yeah Ronaldo definitely played a part in it, I agree. But you have to admit Rooney was bang out of order, kicking and pushing, foul language - all right in front of the referee! Nobody I know who i was watching with at least argued with the referee there. And they're all playing for their country at the end of the day.

But what I am REALLY upset about is the fact that England had 10 players for well over an hour, and Portugal STILL couldn't get a goal!! Which is why we totally deserved to win.

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better ...

Everyone else in England ... nobody else outside england... :laugh:
Only because youre so smug right now...:rolleyes: you should know that England deserved to win and Portugal did not thats a fact!! We did so well!!!:spin:

I TOTALLY AGREE. Totally. We really deserved to win; we lost 2 players like Beckham and Rooney, and the 10 players played with all their strength. We couldn't have deserved to win more!!

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy nuts...

Portugal won. They deserved to win. They won.. end of.:hugesmile:

Stropz, I was picturing your face as that goal went it. :colour::colour::colour:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Its Ronaldos damn fault - i hate him - he should not have wound up rooney if he hadnt - we would have won!!! I just know it! I hate him now!:mad:

me to he should not bealoud in england and rooney should do somting about it

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Bitter.. Much? IntheHood... :joker:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
haha i want them to go out now and Brazil to win again! That will be some justice at least!!!:bigsmile:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but is was him that got Rooney sent off....lots of Man U fans arent going to be happy

Most Man U fans are not English though :laugh:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
They didnt deserve to win though! thats the thing if they deserved to win i wouldnt be as bothered

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:19 PM
Ohh, soz Elz_Belz, you were on about the referee!

In which case, you're right. :tongue:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Bitter.. Much? IntheHood... :joker:

Did you watch the Holland v Portugal game?

You'll know what I am talking about if you did :wink:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Bitter.. Much? IntheHood... :joker:
We are not bitter we just know enough about football to see that england played better considering the circumstances and they deserved to win sooo much more!!! Thats why we are angry!!!:rolleyes::mad:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Who else thinks that England deserved to win becasue they played better ...

Everyone else in England ... nobody else outside england... :laugh:
Only because youre so smug right now...:rolleyes: you should know that England deserved to win and Portugal did not thats a fact!! We did so well!!!:spin:

I TOTALLY AGREE. Totally. We really deserved to win; we lost 2 players like Beckham and Rooney, and the 10 players played with all their strength. We couldn't have deserved to win more!!

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy nuts...

Portugal won. They deserved to win. They won.. end of.:hugesmile:

Stropz, I was picturing your face as that goal went it. :colour::colour::colour:

they did not deserv to win

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Lance
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy nuts...

Portugal won. They deserved to win. They won.. end of.:hugesmile:

Stropz, I was picturing your face as that goal went it. :colour::colour::colour:

Enter Lance... aka... 'the voice of reason' ...:thumbs:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Ohh, soz Elz_Belz, you were on about the referee!

In which case, you're right. :tongue:

Lol i going to send it lots of hate mail..and then some more and then.....:mad: anyone care to join me

BB-Rocks
01-07-2006, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Davie - I wouldn't even bother mate.. you are seriously up against it here.. me & u are well outnumbered... let's just laugh anyway... :laugh:


*Laughing away:laugh:*

Ahhh im in such a good mood:bouncy:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Stropz

He certainly is fit... You got that right! :thumbs:

It's just bad luck he's gay then :laugh:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by Stropz
Bitter.. Much? IntheHood... :joker:
We are not bitter we just know enough about football to see that england played better considering the circumstances and they deserved to win sooo much more!!! Thats why we are angry!!!:rolleyes::mad:

Spot on! :thumbs:

I still think Ronaldo's fit though lol. To be honest, I think the referee had it in for us for ages. Also, you've got to admit there was no point in Rooney showing so much anger - having him as a striker would've been good for us at any rate! Oh well.

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Just because they won, it does not mean they deserved it!!! So many thngs went against us today and if it wasnt for them, we would have won as we are the better tram no matter what you say!!!:rolleyes:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Stropz

He certainly is fit... You got that right! :thumbs:

It's just bad luck he's gay then :laugh:

No he's not he's got a girlfriend!!

:spin2:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Damn lol....

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by Lance
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy nuts...

Portugal won. They deserved to win. They won.. end of.:hugesmile:

Stropz, I was picturing your face as that goal went it. :colour::colour::colour:

Enter Lance... aka... 'the voice of reason' ...:thumbs:

I am so happy.:hugesmile:

And to make it worse, I hope portugal lose in the next round. Just to rub salt in the wounds.:wink:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Stropz
Bitter.. Much? IntheHood... :joker:

Did you watch the Holland v Portugal game?

You'll know what I am talking about if you did :wink:

Nah, I didn't see it actually.. however, my other half did, and reckons that the ref was a muppet... and that some of the Portugal players shoulda been sent off.. :thumbs:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:21 PM
I dont care i hate him now!!!:mad:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Stropz

He certainly is fit... You got that right! :thumbs:

It's just bad luck he's gay then :laugh:

No he's not he's got a girlfriend!!

:spin2:

he is as gay as graig from BB6

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:23 PM
hahahaha i know:laugh:

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Stropz
Bitter.. Much? IntheHood... :joker:

Did you watch the Holland v Portugal game?

You'll know what I am talking about if you did :wink:

Cards galore!:hugesmile:

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:23 PM
Lol i always thought he was a bit gay maybe hes bi..anyway thats not the point hes mean

stoney12
01-07-2006, 06:23 PM
Gutted...However England should have beat Portugal,they were b#####y awful.It should have been our year ,but Sven mucked it right up.

Oh well Euro Qualifiers start in August.

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02


No he's not he's got a girlfriend!!

:spin2:

He's known in Portugal for being Gay, or at very least swings both ways :wink:

He just won't come out as it may affect his career, which is a shame, but the Portugeuse know he's gay, or at worst bi-sexual.

Unfortunately, gays in football are not accepted :bored:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Yeah...he is!!!!! I cant believe the unfairnwess of this!!! I hate him:mad:

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
he is as gay as graig from BB6

There was a Graig in BB6?:shocked:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:25 PM
I like your avatar Lance.. it's very striking!...

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Stropz

Nah, I didn't see it actually.. however, my other half did, and reckons that the ref was a muppet... and that some of the Portugal players shoulda been sent off.. :thumbs:

Well, it's a long story, and we weren't angels ourselves. We got sucked in and started joing the Portugeuse, only they were far worse :sad:

But they are well known for it, so next match, will be cheering for Brazil or France (If I cheer the French, Portugal must be bad!) :joker:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:25 PM
I think some of the new England players should have been given a chance!!! Maybe we could have won if they had?:sad:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by simon_ha
he is as gay as graig from BB6

There was a Graig in BB6?:shocked:

wot eva year it was

i am so mad i cant think which 1 it is

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:26 PM
But they're all playing for their country anyway. If someone from England would've done that you wouldnt've complained!!

And we all saw Rooney right in front of our eyes - he kicked the player, punched him, pushed Ronaldo, used foul language, argued back with the referee - all this was done in front of the referee remember! I can't stand Rooney, and I'm definitely not defending him.

What I'm annoyed about is the fact that everyone in England always shows Rooney in the papers and stuff, when in fact the 10 players left (even excluding Beckham) put up such a good fight that Portugal couldn't get a single goal! THAT'S why they deserved to win.

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
He's known in Portugal for being Gay, or at very least swings both ways :wink:


So he's the Portuguese David Beckham then.:wink:

stoney12
01-07-2006, 06:26 PM
And another thing Ronaldo is a #### and he is going to get more grief on the terraces than Makosi in an anti natal ward.

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:26 PM
I am so mad i cant even say how mad i am its gonna take me ages to get over this...and its weird considering last world cup i didnt give a damn about football!:joker:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
... so next match, will be cheering for Brazil or France (If I cheer the French, Portugal must be bad!) :joker:

c'est la vie mon ami... :spin2:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:27 PM
Oh yeah, why did England bring on Carragher to take a penalty :rolleyes:

He's never taken a penalty in his life?

Come on Brazil, win the damn thing! Only team left, apart from France, who don't cheat

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by stoney12
And another thing Ronaldo is a #### and he is going to get more grief on the terraces than Makosi in an anti natal ward.
Yeah everyone is going to hate him noew and he deserves it!"!!:tongue:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Lance


So he's the Portuguese David Beckham then.:wink:

Portugeuse Sol Campbell, or Portugeuse Marc Overmars :tongue:

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by InTheHood
He's known in Portugal for being Gay, or at very least swings both ways :wink:


So he's the Portuguese David Beckham then.:wink:

CONTROVERSIAL...

*sings* : I predict a riot.. I predict a riot...

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:28 PM
I'm mad at all the injustice - some Portuguese players definitely should've been sent off. Although no way am I defending Rooney. The people I'm praising are the other 10 England players who totally deserved to win!!!!

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
And we all saw Rooney right in front of our eyes - he kicked the player, punched him, pushed Ronaldo, used foul language, argued back with the referee - all this was done in front of the referee remember! I can't stand Rooney, and I'm definitely not defending him.


He didn't just kick. He stood on his ballbag. If you were a male... you'd know that is the ULTIMATE pain.:sad:

stoney12
01-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
But they're all playing for their country anyway. If someone from England would've done that you wouldnt've complained!!

And we all saw Rooney right in front of our eyes - he kicked the player, punched him, pushed Ronaldo, used foul language, argued back with the referee - all this was done in front of the referee remember! I can't stand Rooney, and I'm definitely not defending him.

What I'm annoyed about is the fact that everyone in England always shows Rooney in the papers and stuff, when in fact the 10 players left (even excluding Beckham) put up such a good fight that Portugal couldn't get a single goal! THAT'S why they deserved to win.






England players have never attempted to get rival players a card by protesting to the ref.For Gods sake Ronaldo has just broken a nations heart ....goofy little###### then had a little wink to the bench about it........what a c###

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
I'm mad at all the injustice - some Portuguese players definitely should've been sent off. Although no way am I defending Rooney. The people I'm praising are the other 10 England players who totally deserved to win!!!!

Deserved to lose.:spin2:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Stropz

c'est la vie mon ami... :spin2:

How do you get your flags?

I want a Faroe Isles........oops Brazil one :joker:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
But they're all playing for their country anyway. If someone from England would've done that you wouldnt've complained!!

And we all saw Rooney right in front of our eyes - he kicked the player, punched him, pushed Ronaldo, used foul language, argued back with the referee - all this was done in front of the referee remember! I can't stand Rooney, and I'm definitely not defending him.

What I'm annoyed about is the fact that everyone in England always shows Rooney in the papers and stuff, when in fact the 10 players left (even excluding Beckham) put up such a good fight that Portugal couldn't get a single goal! THAT'S why they deserved to win.

he did not mean to kick the player but should hav cot a yellow for pushin gay ronaldo

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:30 PM
Its not ****ing fair that they sent off rooney for that but they didnt send off any portugal players did they? even when they broke the rules!!! Iam so mad with the referee!!! He is an unfair bastard who should be sacked!!!:bawling:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:30 PM
It all happened in front of the referee though! AND Ronaldo's playing for his country. Come on, no way can you be defending Rooney.

I certainly agree England should've won but the whole red card thing is something I'm not going to argue with. Although...I do agree that some Portuguese players should have been sent off, which is where more unfairness comes in from the referee.

Pipergun
01-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by InTheHood
He's known in Portugal for being Gay, or at very least swings both ways :wink:


So he's the Portuguese David Beckham then.:wink:

I always thought his Adam's Apple was a bit too big! :rolleyes::laugh:

I not upset if I'm honest, we can't go back, but it does seem ironic that on arguably our first half-decent performace that we're sent packing, but then that's the name of the game... whether a team plays dirty or not, there's a 50/50 chance of winning and losing, it was our time to go!

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:32 PM
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Stropz

c'est la vie mon ami... :spin2:

How do you get your flags?

I want a Faroe Isles........oops Brazil one :joker:

http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/Feroe.gif

http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/Bresil.gif

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Its not ****ing fair that they sent off rooney for that but they didnt send off any portugal players did they? even when they broke the rules!!! Iam so mad with the referee!!! He is an unfair b****** who should be sacked!!!:bawling:

I agree with Rooney being sent off totally. However there was unfairness in that some Portuguese players should've been sent off. I'm going to lose so much interest in the World Cup now that England isn't there. Besides, it's not like Portugal is going to get any further than the semi-final anyway! Especially when England's the better team overall.

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to
haha yeah the stupid ****ing referee i hate his ****ing guts!!! Sorry for the language but this is such an injustice!!!:mad: I hate them all and especially that stupid goof Ronaldo and that ****ing dimwit referee!! They totally ganged up against us!!:mad:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Lance

http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/Feroe.gif

http://www.atlasgeo.net/flags/animations/Bresil.gif

Nice :thumbs:

I was taking the pee out of Scotland when asking for Faroes :joker:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to

That's absolute rubbish, but you can believe that if you want to. Rooney was bang out of order and I absolutely can't stand him. I love all the other England players though and thought they played brilliantly.

stoney12
01-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
It all happened in front of the referee though! AND Ronaldo's playing for his country. Come on, no way can you be defending Rooney.

I certainly agree England should've won but the whole red card thing is something I'm not going to argue with. Although...I do agree that some Portuguese players should have been sent off, which is where more unfairness comes in from the referee.




Its about WHO sent him off,it was a yellow card at the most and his team mate is totally to blame.The actual 'tackle' happened after a tussle with Rooney and two portugal players,Ron##### was nowhere near at the time.

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Stropz

c'est la vie mon ami... :spin2:

How do you get your flags?

I want a Faroe Isles........oops Brazil one :joker:

PS... I'm treating the "Faroe" comment with the contempt it deserves :wink:

Here ya go:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to
haha yeah the stupid ****ing referee i hate his ****ing guts!!! Sorry for the language but this is such an injustice!!!:mad: I hate them all and especially that stupid goof Ronaldo and that ****ing dimwit referee!! They totally ganged up against us!!:mad:

and he is a world class ref
yer right

stoney12
01-07-2006, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to

That's absolute rubbish, but you can believe that if you want to. Rooney was bang out of order and I absolutely can't stand him. I love all the other England players though and thought they played brilliantly.




The ref was not going to punish Rooney any more than a yellow if at all until Goofy started

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to
haha yeah the stupid ****ing referee i hate his ****ing guts!!! Sorry for the language but this is such an injustice!!!:mad: I hate them all and especially that stupid goof Ronaldo and that ****ing dimwit referee!! They totally ganged up against us!!:mad:

and he is a world class ref
yer right
yeah haha thats a total joke he didnt know what he was on about half the time - he is a total idiot!!!:mad:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to

That's absolute rubbish, but you can believe that if you want to. Rooney was bang out of order and I absolutely can't stand him. I love all the other England players though and thought they played brilliantly.

ronaldo told the ref to ive him a red.

before that the ref was jus goin to giv a free kick

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Nice :thumbs:

I was taking the pee out of Scotland when asking for Faroes :joker:

As long as you weren't taking the piss out of Ireland I couldn't care less.:hugesmile:

We did have a tough qualifying group though.

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Ah, the English will get over it in a few days, like we Dutch have.

England and Holland have fairly straightforward Euro 2008 groups, Portugal do too :nono:

And for the English, Scotland have Ukraine, Italy and France :joker:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by stoney12
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
It all happened in front of the referee though! AND Ronaldo's playing for his country. Come on, no way can you be defending Rooney.

I certainly agree England should've won but the whole red card thing is something I'm not going to argue with. Although...I do agree that some Portuguese players should have been sent off, which is where more unfairness comes in from the referee.




Its about WHO sent him off,it was a yellow card at the most and his team mate is totally to blame.The actual 'tackle' happened after a tussle with Rooney and two portugal players,Ron##### was nowhere near at the time.

What's to say everything happened because of him though? Were you there? I agree he played a part in it, but for one thing he's playing AGAINST Rooney so obviously he's going to play for his own team! And secondly everything happened right in front of the referee so he saw what was going on. I'm not going to argue because there's no point. All I'm going to say is that whilst I don't agree with the red card thing, I do agree that the referee should've sent some Portuguese players off. Also that England is the better team and totally deserved to win, because even with 10 players who aren't publicised that much they played brilliantly.

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Stropz


PS... I'm treating the "Faroe" comment with the contempt it deserves :wink:

Here you go:

:joker:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by simon_ha
the fact is that rooney should hav got a yellow, but the ref was not even goin to giv him that untill the ugly goofey gay ronaldo told to the ref to

That's absolute rubbish, but you can believe that if you want to. Rooney was bang out of order and I absolutely can't stand him. I love all the other England players though and thought they played brilliantly.
I know - its obvious whos side the referee was on from the start - why else would he have listened to that dimwit ronaldo? He is not the referee - he has no right to tell him what to do!!! I beleive that he would not have been sent off if he had not opened his fat mouth!!!:mad:

ronaldo told the ref to ive him a red.

before that the ref was jus goin to giv a free kick

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:38 PM
I would like to refer you to this site:

http://www.BitterEnglishFans.com

Enjoy...:joker:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Ah, the English will get over it in a few days, like we Dutch have.

England and Holland have fairly straightforward Euro 2008 groups, Portugal do too :nono:

And for the English, Scotland have Ukraine, Italy and France :joker:

England and Holland are better then portugal

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Er - the link doesnt work and even if it did i wouldnt go on it!!!

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Lance


As long as you weren't taking the p**s out of Ireland I couldn't care less.:hugesmile:

We did have a tough qualifying group though.

I wouldn't call a past it France, or Switzerland overly tough, possibly should have come 2nd.

You have Germany and Czechs in Euro 2008 qualifiers, so it doesn't get easier!

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:40 PM
Just rememebr- Portugal were ****ing crap today england outplayed them!

lily.
01-07-2006, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Er - the link doesnt work and even if it did i wouldnt go on it!!!

LoL.. it's not a real site.. it was tongue in cheek :tongue:

..anyway.. it's been fun, but I gotta run... tata.. :xyxwave:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha

England and Holland are better then portugal

Footballing wise yes, but the refs haven't cottoned on to Portugal's antics yet, although the ref did okay aside from the Ronaldo asking for Rooney to be sent off incident.

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Just rememebr- Portugal were ****ing c**p today england outplayed them!

portugal had 12 men including the ref

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by InTheHood
Ah, the English will get over it in a few days, like we Dutch have.

England and Holland have fairly straightforward Euro 2008 groups, Portugal do too :nono:

And for the English, Scotland have Ukraine, Italy and France :joker:

England and Holland are better then portugal

Yeah, I do agree with that overall.

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Er - the link doesnt work and even if it did i wouldnt go on it!!!

LoL.. it's not a real site.. it was tongue in cheek :tongue:

..anyway.. it's been fun, but I gotta run... tata.. :xyxwave:

Post edited.

Personal insults will not be tolerated on the borad.

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Just rememebr- Portugal were ****ing c**p today england outplayed them!

And I agree with that too! :thumbs:

Mike
01-07-2006, 06:43 PM
The ref was an absoloute joke, even when a Portugal player clearly dived he still blew the whistle and gave a free kick to them, i just think if your going to referee a game then do it fairly, today he was poor IMO, very poor.:shocked:

stoney12
01-07-2006, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by stoney12
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
It all happened in front of the referee though! AND Ronaldo's playing for his country. Come on, no way can you be defending Rooney.

I certainly agree England should've won but the whole red card thing is something I'm not going to argue with. Although...I do agree that some Portuguese players should have been sent off, which is where more unfairness comes in from the referee.




Its about WHO sent him off,it was a yellow card at the most and his team mate is totally to blame.The actual 'tackle' happened after a tussle with Rooney and two portugal players,Ron##### was nowhere near at the time.

What's to say everything happened because of him though? Were you there? I agree he played a part in it, but for one thing he's playing AGAINST Rooney so obviously he's going to play for his own team! And secondly everything happened right in front of the referee so he saw what was going on. I'm not going to argue because there's no point. All I'm going to say is that whilst I don't agree with the red card thing, I do agree that the referee should've sent some Portuguese players off. Also that England is the better team and totally deserved to win, because even with 10 players who aren't publicised that much they played brilliantly.




What do you mean was I there???NO but I watched the replay on tv about 5 times.Watch it again the ref was not I repeat not going to punish Rooney any more than a yellow card(if that) for the fowl.What Goofey did was just totally out of order,professionals who demand cards against rival players are universally hated by football fans.Its because it was for counrty that the actions were even more maddning.

Even if we had won Ronaldo had still taken away the dreams of his team mate by getting him suspended.

Has it happens he has potentially broken the hopes of a nation that he is happy to take about 70k a week from.

AND HE IS WRONG!!!!!

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:44 PM
We're not bitter, we would be bitter if there was ANY justice at all. The players played brilliantly, and any Scottish people who are smug obviously didn't watch the game otherwise they'd know that.

Ah well, we might as well lay off it now. It's going to be controversial for a while and people will form their own opinion.

Er.....PETE 2 WIN!!! :laugh:

Lauren
01-07-2006, 06:44 PM
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to be hated by the British public. He was doing his job to be fair. :thumbs: He wasn't going to miss the penalty purposefully to keep England happy. :bigsmile:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:45 PM
I think he was siding with portugal so muich today it was plain as day!! He jumped on us as soon as we did anything wrong but when they did he ignored it!! Is that justice? If Portugal have to win by cheating they do NOT deserve to win at all they are a bunch of cheating scumbags!!!:mad:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to be hated by the British public. He was doing his job to be fair. :thumbs: He wasn't going to miss the penalty purposefully to keep England happy. :bigsmile:

Yeah that, and the red card thing. It wasn't all his fault but people will form their own opinions accordingly.

But like I said it's a controversial topic. And people like the Scottish will obviously just laugh at us saying we're bitter. :sad:

Er...yeah, so where was I? Oh yeah, Pete to win!!

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by stoney12
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by stoney12
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
It all happened in front of the referee though! AND Ronaldo's playing for his country. Come on, no way can you be defending Rooney.

I certainly agree England should've won but the whole red card thing is something I'm not going to argue with. Although...I do agree that some Portuguese players should have been sent off, which is where more unfairness comes in from the referee.




Its about WHO sent him off,it was a yellow card at the most and his team mate is totally to blame.The actual 'tackle' happened after a tussle with Rooney and two portugal players,Ron##### was nowhere near at the time.

What's to say everything happened because of him though? Were you there? I agree he played a part in it, but for one thing he's playing AGAINST Rooney so obviously he's going to play for his own team! And secondly everything happened right in front of the referee so he saw what was going on. I'm not going to argue because there's no point. All I'm going to say is that whilst I don't agree with the red card thing, I do agree that the referee should've sent some Portuguese players off. Also that England is the better team and totally deserved to win, because even with 10 players who aren't publicised that much they played brilliantly.




What do you mean was I there???NO but I watched the replay on tv about 5 times.Watch it again the ref was not I repeat not going to punish Rooney any more than a yellow card(if that) for the fowl.What Goofey did was just totally out of order,professionals who demand cards against rival players are universally hated by football fans.Its because it was for counrty that the actions were even more maddning.

Even if we had won Ronaldo had still taken away the dreams of his team mate by getting him suspended.

Has it happens he has potentially broken the hopes of a nation that he is happy to take about 70k a week from.

AND HE IS WRONG!!!!!

Oh, lay off it now. You've formed your opinion, I've formed mine.

At least we both agree that England deserved to win overall because of the fantastic players. Let's leave it there.

Lauren
01-07-2006, 06:47 PM
LOL and if it was Scotland that got through to this stage ( :hugesmile: ) and then lost - we would be doing exactly the same. :tongue:

It's just "friendly" banter

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:47 PM
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:
haha yeah they are!!!:laugh:well we are better anyway!!

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to be hated by the British public. He was doing his job to be fair. :thumbs: He wasn't going to miss the penalty purposefully to keep England happy. :bigsmile:

yerr not by the british, by the english

we should put hin in scotland

Ella
01-07-2006, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:
haha yeah they are!!!:laugh:well we are better anyway!!

Lol i agree with that its funny when Scotland slate the England team Because i just think hmmmm WHERE ARE SCOTLAND!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:53 PM
Totally, I don't have anything against Scottish people personally but it annoys me when they do stuff like this. Sure everyone says it's 'friendly' but it's annoying.

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to be hated by the British public. He was doing his job to be fair. :thumbs: He wasn't going to miss the penalty purposefully to keep England happy. :bigsmile:

yerr not by the british, by the english

we should put hin in scotland

lmao. You're proper funny! :laugh:

It'll blow over, with it being a controversial topic and all that stuff my mum goes on about. I'm still annoyed because England deserved to win! And what makes it worse is that I'm going to Scotland tomorrow I think - how brilliant!!

Lance
01-07-2006, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Lance

I'd be any other nationality in the world



You're honorary Dutch citizenship is on it's way :joker:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:58 PM
At least the English were not cheating scumbags like Portugal!!! They suck so much now:mad:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Lance

I'd be any other nationality in the world



You're honorary Dutch citizenship is on it's way :joker:
hahahahahha:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::lau gh:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to be hated by the British public. He was doing his job to be fair. :thumbs: He wasn't going to miss the penalty purposefully to keep England happy. :bigsmile:

yerr not by the british, by the english

we should put hin in scotland

lmao. You're proper funny! :laugh:

It'll blow over, with it being a controversial topic and all that stuff my mum goes on about. I'm still annoyed because England deserved to win! And what makes it worse is that I'm going to Scotland tomorrow I think - how brilliant!!

if we didnt hav BB i would be cryin right now,

it jus soooooo annoying that we get cheated and cant win penns

Bells
01-07-2006, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

That's good that you're proud of being Scottish and stuff. But what annoys me is that if the Scottish people really were that proud, they'd be dignified and stay silent. Instead they can be annoying and we end up in endless debates which are completely baseless really since Scotland isn't even in the picture!

Otherwise, though, good on you for being proud of Scotland! :thumbs: Hopefully now you all will be so proud that you'll stop slagging off England :tongue:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

england has a bad reputaition (cant spell)

but were nofin like wot the world thinks

Lance
01-07-2006, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

That's good that you're proud of being Scottish and stuff. But what annoys me is that if the Scottish people really were that proud, they'd be dignified and stay silent. Instead they can be annoying and we end up in endless debates which are completely baseless really since Scotland isn't even in the picture!

Otherwise, though, good on you for being proud of Scotland! :thumbs: Hopefully now you all will be so proud that you'll stop slagging off England :tongue:

I'm not Scottish. There's only one nation who dislikes England more than Scotland do and I'm from there.

Work it out.:wink:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 07:01 PM
yeah, true its unfair:rolleyes:

Bells
01-07-2006, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
At least the English were not cheating scumbags like Portugal!!! They suck so much now:mad:

Now now Jem, don't give England haters more scope for saying we're bitter! :tongue:

I wouldn't call them cheating scumbags myself, but I agree it was unfair. But I'm past that now, my head's proper aching after talking about with so many people!! (we watched the game in a group you see).

Lauren
01-07-2006, 07:01 PM
Isn't Lance Irish?

EDIT: I posted this waaaay too late. Ignore me :thumbs:

Bells
01-07-2006, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

england has a bad reputaition (cant spell)

but were nofin like wot the world thinks

Who said we have a bad reputation? England's ACE!!

Ella
01-07-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah i have nothing against Scotland as my grandparents are scottish but why slag England off? The fact is we did better then you, and when scotland werent in the finals or whatever no one slagged them off did they?

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by simon_ha
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

england has a bad reputaition (cant spell)

but were nofin like wot the world thinks

Who said we have a bad reputation? England's ACE!!

yer we are but most over countries dont like us

Razmataz
01-07-2006, 07:03 PM
I'd like to state the obvious.

We can all dream.

But most dreams don't come true.

Bells
01-07-2006, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah but the scottish are biiter because we got further then them :hello::hugesmile:

Everyone would just love to be English. :rolleyes::hugesmile:

I wouldn't be English if you paid me to be. No way. I'd be any other nationality in the world before I'd become English.

Only because of what they did to my country. But lets not get into that.:tongue: We'll save that debate for the quiet days when BB ends.

IMPORTANT: Can I just remind people that we understand you're frustrated but personal insults are not tolerated on the board and if they continue this thread will have to be locked.

That's good that you're proud of being Scottish and stuff. But what annoys me is that if the Scottish people really were that proud, they'd be dignified and stay silent. Instead they can be annoying and we end up in endless debates which are completely baseless really since Scotland isn't even in the picture!

Otherwise, though, good on you for being proud of Scotland! :thumbs: Hopefully now you all will be so proud that you'll stop slagging off England :tongue:

I'm not Scottish. There's only one nation who dislikes England more than Scotland do and I'm from there.

Work it out.:wink:

Well, wherever you're from. Irish then.

Ella
01-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Gladders
I'd like to state the obvious.

We can all dream.

But most dreams don't come true.

I agree i often dream that Wesley Snipes is my husband :rolleyes::laugh: Dont know if i should have admitted that

Bells
01-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah i have nothing against Scotland as my grandparents are scottish but why slag England off? The fact is we did better then you, and when scotland werent in the finals or whatever no one slagged them off did they?

Yeah I lived in Scotland for 3 years so generally I like Scottish people.

Lauren
01-07-2006, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I agree i often dream that Wesley Snipes is my husband :rolleyes::laugh:

And we all know that the dream won't come true. Since Wesley Snipes IS my husband. :tongue: I am not lying at all :wink:

Tanser_Man
01-07-2006, 08:31 PM
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6779/crouch4jc.jpg

That's all i have to say.

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Tanser_Man
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6779/crouch4jc.jpg

That's all i have to say.
haha thats so true!! Love it!!!:laugh:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 08:57 PM
Okay, so it's France that will beat Portugal, as Brazil are out :sad:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 09:00 PM
Yeah - everyone expected Brazil to win - but France played incredibly well i think they will win the world cup now - they are going to slaughter Portugal!!!:laugh:

Mike
01-07-2006, 09:02 PM
What a performance from Zinedene Zidane tonight.

Lance
01-07-2006, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Mike
What a performance from Zinedene Zidane tonight.

Yeah he was outstanding. Much better than any England player that made an appearance.:tongue:

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 09:27 PM
Can you just STOP being so horrible about England now??!!!:mad: After all, they deserved to go through today so there!!! :rolleyes:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by jem_stone16
Can you just STOP being so horrible about England now??!!!:mad: After all, they deserved to go through today so there!!! :rolleyes:

they r jus trying to wind us up

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Tanser_Man
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6779/crouch4jc.jpg

That's all i have to say.

says it all

i hope that wot he said

Dan_
01-07-2006, 09:37 PM
Have to agree with most of what has been said in the thread so far, the ref was obviously too harsh and Ronaldo is a s.o.b, the ref was not even going to send Rooney off until that cretin got involved.I hope he leaves Manchester United so we don't have to see him and his stupid playacting on match of the day each week. Owen Hargreaves was man of the match for me today, worked his sock's off for the whole game and to think he was being slated by quite a few England fan's.

France were very good today.Zidane put in one of the great performances of the world cup so far, he is really ending his career on a high.I think if they play to that level again they will beat Portugal but Ronaldo and the returning Deco will proably dive all over the pitch and get a few France players sent off.

Let the Scottish fan's laugh now but they'll be crying into their irn bru when they lose to the part timer's from the Faroe Islands :dance:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 09:44 PM
What a shame this World Cup is going to be remembered for the referees and all the diving etc etc.

Dan_
01-07-2006, 09:47 PM
Certainly is a shame, who do you think deserves to win now ITH?

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Certainly is a shame, who do you think deserves to win now ITH?

i cant remember who is still in

remind me plz

Lance
01-07-2006, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
What a shame this World Cup is going to be remembered for the referees and all the diving etc etc.

And the bitter, bitter English fans.:sad:

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Lance

And the bitter, bitter English fans.:sad:

Or the Irish ones for not getting there (again) :tongue:

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Lance

And the bitter, bitter English fans.:sad:

Or the Irish ones for not getting there (again) :tongue:

they never will

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by Lance

And the bitter, bitter English fans.:sad:

Or the Irish ones for not getting there (again) :tongue:

they never will

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Certainly is a shame, who do you think deserves to win now ITH?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I have to say the last 4 are actually 4 very average teams.

Only Argentina can leave the World Cup saying they played well.

Germany, home soil has helped immensely

Italy, easy route so far and they haven't played that well. Buffon has been immense for them

Portugal, they've dived and cheated from game 1

France, poor in the group, but they have beaten Spain and Brazil

I'd say anyone that can beat Brazil, deserves to be World Champions.

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 10:00 PM
i think France can go all the way

in the final with Germany

Ella
01-07-2006, 10:06 PM
OMG this is annoying first England now Brazil i dont like france and i dont like germany..Hmmmm:bawling:

Dan_
01-07-2006, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Certainly is a shame, who do you think deserves to win now ITH?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I have to say the last 4 are actually 4 very average teams.

Only Argentina can leave the World Cup saying they played well.

Germany, home soil has helped immensely

Italy, easy route so far and they haven't played that well. Buffon has been immense for them

Portugal, they've dived and cheated from game 1

France, poor in the group, but they have beaten Spain and Brazil

I'd say anyone that can beat Brazil, deserves to be World Champions.

Argentina were certainly the team who I felt should have won it but Pekerman messed up with his subs against Germany.Germany have impressed me though so perhaps them.

I've not liked Italy since their game against USA where I felt they were poor and De Rossi's elbow was sickening, then the cheating against Australia.

France seem to be peaking at the right time so I'm going for Germany vs France in the final with France winning, just so long as Portugal don't con the ref again they should beat them.

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 10:10 PM
o well, i am not really that arsed who wins it

i am sure the ref is chance the match

InTheHood
01-07-2006, 10:13 PM
Let's hope Italy and Portugal don't make it, or it makes a mockery of the game.

I heard someone say today, that England's downfall is that they are too honest and they don't cheat enough like Portugal/Italy/Argentina etc etc

Well, the Dutch don't cheat (Apart from Robben!!) and we tried it against Portugal and you'll recall the results :rolleyes::sad:

BigSister
01-07-2006, 10:15 PM
i think its going to be Germany vs France too Dan

SiMoN!
01-07-2006, 10:16 PM
yer some1 said that in the match. were r to honest and then always get cheated out of it

Jay
01-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Im hoping it will be France v Germany in the final i just hope Portugal don't get their.

xGemmax
01-07-2006, 10:53 PM
I think the final is likely to be ItalyvsFrance. After England, i will support Italy as im half Italian.

James
01-07-2006, 11:34 PM
France and Germany have played very well - they've put out three of the favourites, you can't argue with that.

Zidane is still a class act.

They showed the Rooney incident on the ITV highlights there - makes me wince every time I see it! :shocked:

:hugesmile:

Dan_
02-07-2006, 12:52 AM
They don't seem to be showing Ronaldo's 'headbutt' on Rooney much.

InTheHood
02-07-2006, 08:42 AM
I see this morning Ronaldo is denying trying to get Rooney sent off, and he feels the English press will blame him.

Bit of guilt (and fear!) setting in!

James
02-07-2006, 09:11 AM
Cristiano Ronaldo is the official Alpay 2006 England Scapegoat™.

:wink:

InTheHood
02-07-2006, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by James
Cristiano Ronaldo is the official Alpay 2006 England Scapegoat™.

:wink:

Is that like Kutuzov (Belarus) & Dadu (Moldova) are the 2005 Cayasso (Costa Rica) & Petersen (Faroes) Scapegoats :joker:

I would say 2006 but Scotland didn't get that far :tongue::wink:

I like this English/Scottish banter, it's like our Dutch/Belgian banter............one is bigger than the other and the little ones get more pleasure out of the bigger ones losing than there own teams winning :joker:

easypeasy
02-07-2006, 11:11 AM
trust us to get an Argentinian referee.......we had lost the game the moment he was appointed the position of being in charge........them lot still hold a grudge for the Falklands and Argentian people think taking a dive is a fair and natural part of football. we didnt stand a chance.

Lance
02-07-2006, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by easypeasy
trust us to get an Argentinian referee.......we had lost the game the moment he was appointed the position of being in charge........them lot still hold a grudge for the Falklands and Argentian people think taking a dive is a fair and natural part of football. we didnt stand a chance.

Nope. England lost the game when the wonderful Ronaldo netted that last penalty.:wink:

easypeasy
02-07-2006, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Lance
Originally posted by easypeasy
trust us to get an Argentinian referee.......we had lost the game the moment he was appointed the position of being in charge........them lot still hold a grudge for the Falklands and Argentian people think taking a dive is a fair and natural part of football. we didnt stand a chance.

Nope. England lost the game when the wonderful Ronaldo netted that last penalty.:wink: England lost the game when hand balls were ignored and a player was sent off unreasonably. funny thing was though we still outplayed portugal with one man less. just a shame Lampard has been having real trouble seeing the goal this tournement........

easypeasy
02-07-2006, 11:27 AM
truth is we are still in need of a replacement for Paul Scholes.....
one good midfielder is worth 5 mediocre ones......

SiMoN!
02-07-2006, 12:11 PM
portugal could not beat us with ten men on

the ref won the games for portugal

lily.
02-07-2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Blanket&Crib
LOL and if it was Scotland that got through to this stage ( :hugesmile: ) and then lost - we would be doing exactly the same. :tongue:

It's just "friendly" banter

At least one person in this thread has an ounce of sense...

:thumbs: Blanket&Crib :thumbs:

I can't believe how irate everyone got after I left. I can't believe how easy it is to wind people up... :tongue:

Originally posted by InTheHood
I like this English/Scottish banter, it's like our Dutch/Belgian banter............one is bigger than the other and the little ones get more pleasure out of the bigger ones losing than there own teams winning :joker:

So True. :laugh:

InTheHood
02-07-2006, 06:49 PM
Sadly, overnight alot of trouble in England, and a bit in Scotland.

Near me, alot of fighting, including some serious beaten Portuguese.

In Scotland, thugs decided it would be good to pick on 2 young English boys, aged 8 and 10. They roughed them up despite the appeals of there Scottish Mother.

This isn't what football is about and all this England/Scotland banter, seems to encourage hooligans. :mad:

It's a shame, as those who enjoy the real banter as just banter just add to the problem, when really it should just be fun.

SiMoN!
02-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Sadly, overnight alot of trouble in England, and a bit in Scotland.

Near me, alot of fighting, including some serious beaten Portuguese.

In Scotland, thugs decided it would be good to pick on 2 young English boys, aged 8 and 10. They roughed them up despite the appeals of there Scottish Mother.

This isn't what football is about and all this England/Scotland banter, seems to encourage hooligans. :mad:

It's a shame, as those who enjoy the real banter as just banter just add to the problem, when really it should just be fun.

some people spoil for everyone,

i watched a show about football hooligans, it seemed that they was prod of it and i was like u r ruining football,

but it seemed like they hooligans only fight with ofer hooligans. but that is still stupid

as for beating up 8 & 9 year olds, they are sad and i wont go on so i dont say nofin i shouldent

InTheHood
02-07-2006, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by simon_ha

some people spoil for everyone,

i watched a show about football hooligans, it seemed that they was prod of it and i was like u r ruining football,

but it seemed like they hooligans only fight with ofer hooligans. but that is still stupid

as for beating up 8 & 9 year olds, they are sad and i wont go on so i dont say nofin i shouldent

I'm debating as to whether these big tournaments are worth it.

The standard of football has dropped in recent years. Seeing Zidane the other night was a joy to watch, something I haven't enjoyed in so long.

Then we have most players do don't care enough

Then we have hooligans

SiMoN!
02-07-2006, 07:35 PM
even though i love football

that last match i really enjoyed was when liverpool won the FA cup

Siouxsie
02-07-2006, 09:15 PM
italy will win the cup ive said that all along (I am gutted for ENGLAND) COULDNT EVEN WATCH THE PENALTIES

Kore
02-07-2006, 09:22 PM
i reckon all us islanders shud stick togetha... aww cmon we all watch the same big bro.! and ireland is our cool lil bro island..

stick together in football too :tongue::tongue:

BigSister
02-07-2006, 09:25 PM
thank you Kore some1 is still on the same wavelenght as I am i cant understand all this rivarly

Ruth
03-07-2006, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
Sadly, overnight alot of trouble in England, and a bit in Scotland.

Near me, alot of fighting, including some serious beaten Portuguese.

In Scotland, thugs decided it would be good to pick on 2 young English boys, aged 8 and 10. They roughed them up despite the appeals of there Scottish Mother.

This isn't what football is about and all this England/Scotland banter, seems to encourage hooligans. :mad:

It's a shame, as those who enjoy the real banter as just banter just add to the problem, when really it should just be fun.

Yeah I agree. I must admit though, I don't see the point in supporting a team just because they're not England. Shall we all have a good laugh at Scotland's performance in the World Cup? Oh no, that's right.....

Ruth
03-07-2006, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Kore
i reckon all us islanders shud stick togetha... aww cmon we all watch the same big bro.! and ireland is our cool lil bro island..

stick together in football too :tongue::tongue:

But seriously - yep I agree with Kore. If Scotland, Wales or Ireland were in the World Cup, I'd be supporting them, not supporting whoever was playing them just for the sake of it.

InTheHood
03-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Ruth

Yeah I agree. I must admit though, I don't see the point in supporting a team just because they're not England. Shall we all have a good laugh at Scotland's performance in the World Cup? Oh no, that's right.....

Well, being Dutch, I don't support England anyway, although my wife is English, so if we Holland cannot win, I cheer England for her.

She got further than me this time too :rolleyes::sad::joker:

abs
03-07-2006, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Stropz
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



oh, and did I mention... hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

LMAO

England played poor anyway, from the start of the tournement to the end. sven is a dreadful manager, so much talent at his disposal. Germany should when it. then its all about the Premiership - COME ON YOU ROYALS!!!

Slartibartfast
03-07-2006, 06:26 PM
OK, I read through about the first 5 pages of this thread and couldn't read anymore without posting a reply to some of the sheer stupidity that has been posted.

To put things in context, I'm not english (although my dad is), I'm from Northern Ireland, I support Man Utd, love Rooney and have never really liked C. Ronaldo, who I feel doesn't contribute enough to the team on a consistent basis.

For what it's worth, here's my two pence worth:

- There's no question that Rooney should have been sent off for stamping on the other guys nuts. It was malicious, intended to cause injury and just plain stupid.

- To those who said that the ref wasn't going to do anything until Ronaldo approached the ref, where the hell are you getting this from. :shocked: The ref was literally two foot away from Rooney when he did it, and the ref blew the whistle the second that Rooney stamped on him. It was a clear red card offence and it didn't make one bit of difference what Ronaldo said. Plus, Ronaldo never did the whole "waving the imaginary card" thing, but he was clearly (and understandably ) outraged that his fellow countryman had just had his balls stamped on. For the england fans out there, try and imagine it the other way round. You really don't think a england player would have been outraged if a portuguese player had attacked an england player in the same way?

- To those idiots (and yes, mod me for calling fellow forum users idiots) who are encouraging people to send hate mail to the ref, wise the ****** up, will ya? The ref had no option but to send Rooney off, but even if he was completely biased and one-sided that is no reason to subject anyone to that kind of treatment. It's happened in the past, when the ref who had disallowed a Campbell goal late in an international game recieved death threats and even had idiotic england fans turn up at his home town (in Switzerland, I think) and shout abuse outside his flippin home! The guy had to get security arranged just to be able to live in his own home. Thats not funny, it's not even understandable, it's downright disgusting and no one should be advocating the same to any person but particularly this ref who did nothing wrong in sending Rooney off.

- Carragher took his penalty before the whistle, so it had to be re-taken. His own fault.

- The hyprocrisy and irony in Alan (lead with the elbow) Shearer and Ian (stamp on the goalkeeper) Wright going on as if the english league is some haven of perfection, saying you would never see a player in the premiership trying to get another player sent off, was astounding. Two of the dirtiest players and biggest divers in recent years criticising someone for something they used to do on a regular basis. Complete w*****s the two of them.

These are the reasons why people outside England (and even some english people I know) cannot support or even like the england national team. This is why people avidly want england to lose. When they lose, it's always someone else's fault. Maybe they should look a bit more closely and realise the person to blame is Rooney. Or Sven for his poor tactics and motivational skills. Or for the english players in general, who had played rubbish in every game and never looked like they deserved to even make it that far in the tournament, never mind make it any further.

Seriously, I am outraged, disgusted and genuinely surprised at some of the rubbish that has been spouted in this thread. :bored:

abs
03-07-2006, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Slartibartfast
OK, I read through about the first 5 pages of this thread and couldn't read anymore without posting a reply to some of the sheer stupidity that has been posted.

To put things in context, I'm not english (although my dad is), I'm from Northern Ireland, I support Man Utd, love Rooney and have never really liked C. Ronaldo, who I feel doesn't contribute enough to the team on a consistent basis.

For what it's worth, here's my two pence worth:

- There's no question that Rooney should have been sent off for stamping on the other guys nuts. It was malicious, intended to cause injury and just plain stupid.

- To those who said that the ref wasn't going to do anything until Ronaldo approached the ref, where the hell are you getting this from. :shocked: The ref was literally two foot away from Rooney when he did it, and the ref blew the whistle the second that Rooney stamped on him. It was a clear red card offence and it didn't make one bit of difference what Ronaldo said. Plus, Ronaldo never did the whole "waving the imaginary card" thing, but he was clearly (and understandably ) outraged that his fellow countryman had just had his balls stamped on. For the england fans out there, try and imagine it the other way round. You really don't think a england player would have been outraged if a portuguese player had attacked an england player in the same way?

- To those idiots (and yes, mod me for calling fellow forum users idiots) who are encouraging people to send hate mail to the ref, wise the ****** up, will you? The ref had no option but to send Rooney off, but even if he was completely biased and one-sided that is no reason to subject anyone to that kind of treatment. It's happened in the past, when the ref who had disallowed a Campbell goal late in an international game recieved death threats and even had idiotic england fans turn up at his home town (in Switzerland, I think) and shout abuse outside his flippin home! The guy had to get security arranged just to be able to live in his own home. Thats not funny, it's not even understandable, it's downright disgusting and no one should be advocating the same to any person but particularly this ref who did nothing wrong in sending Rooney off.

- Carragher took his penalty before the whistle, so it had to be re-taken. His own fault.

- The hyprocrisy and irony in Alan (lead with the elbow) Shearer and Ian (stamp on the goalkeeper) Wright going on as if the english league is some haven of perfection, saying you would never see a player in the premiership trying to get another player sent off, was astounding. Two of the dirtiest players and biggest divers in recent years criticising someone for something they used to do on a regular basis. Complete w*****s the two of them.

These are the reasons why people outside England (and even some english people I know) cannot support or even like the england national team. This is why people avidly want england to lose. When they lose, it's always someone else's fault. Maybe they should look a bit more closely and realise the person to blame is Rooney. Or Sven for his poor tactics and motivational skills. Or for the english players in general, who had played rubbish in every game and never looked like they deserved to even make it that far in the tournament, never mind make it any further.

Seriously, I am outraged, disgusted and genuinely surprised at some of the rubbish that has been spouted in this thread. :bored:

Respect!

:thumbs:

http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/expert.aspx?lid=WC2006_Column_-_Andy_Gray&hlid=400249

Ruth
04-07-2006, 08:06 AM
Trying to encourage people to send hate mail to the ref is disgraceful, disgusting and shameful behaviour. People who are doing that ought to be downright ashamed of themselves.

But I still think that supporting a team for the sole reason that they are not England is a strange attitude to have. This has been happening since before the first game they played in this tournament.

Put it this way - if I said I wasn't going to support Imogen or Glyn in the BB house because they are Welsh (and I stress that this is NOT the case - I really haven't been watching BB this year apart from the odd episode), that would be completely unreasonable wouldn't it?

I can understand people on this thread getting heated - after all a lot of people were crushed when England were knocked out of the World Cup, so for someone to come on here gloating about it the day after they were knocked out could be seen as being insensitive, and it's bound to upset people. However, that is NO excuse whatsoever for some of the flamatory (sp) things that have been said in the thread.

easypeasy
04-07-2006, 09:27 AM
I wont bother watching international England football matches in future, If the ref is Argentinian/German/Scottish/Irish etc the result is a forgone conclusion before kick off..........
Italians make good unbiased ref's though.

Slartibartfast
04-07-2006, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by easypeasy
I wont bother watching international England football matches in future, If the ref is Argentinian/German/Scottish/Irish etc the result is a forgone conclusion before kick off..........
Italians make good unbiased ref's though.

This is the kind of rubbish that I was referring to in my post. it's never the english teams fault that they lost, no it's the refs. What complete c**p.

You've just generalised about at least 4 different countries there, condemning every ref from those countries as being biased and basically a cheat, and you've done it with no evidence at all. It's bordering on racism to make such generalised sweeping comments about people from other countries and as an irish man, I find your comments to be ill-advised, without foundation and offensive.

Ruth
04-07-2006, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Slartibartfast
It's bordering on racism to make such generalised sweeping comments about people from other countries and as an irish man, I find your comments to be ill-advised, without foundation and offensive.

I hear the people who dragged a disabled man out of his car and beat him because he was wearing an England shirt in Scotland (or displaying an England badge on his car), are to be done for racially aggravated assault if they get caught. Same goes for the 7 year old boy who was assaulted in Edinburgh because he was wearing an England shirt. I think it's fair enough for these people to be done for racially aggravated assault.

easypeasy
04-07-2006, 04:50 PM
i wasnt born cynical but the evidence my eyes have witnessed have turned me that way. like seeing an Argentinian player laughing his ass off as he took the dive that cost australia going through to the next round.
some countries players are just natural born cheats. some countries are more corrupt than others. such is life. all im saying is i wont watch England play against certain countries anymore if i can smell the match officials bias from a mile away.

georgie121uk
04-07-2006, 04:54 PM
on the news: it was reported that ronaldos house in manchester has been covered in england flags, posters, etc.......english fans have also coverd his garden in english flags.
he is also reported not going to play for manchester unit again.

easypeasy
04-07-2006, 04:56 PM
oh and by the way Ive nothing against the Northern irish team, or fans. Im half Irish myself and been a fan of Roy K since he played for forest. Now thats one player i wish was English....England would have won a few tournements with him on side.

easypeasy
04-07-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by georgie121uk
on the news: it was reported that ronaldos house in manchester has been covered in england flags, posters, etc.......english fans have also coverd his garden in english flags.
he is also reported not going to play for manchester unit again. good riddance! hehe.

Ella
04-07-2006, 05:05 PM
HAHAHA good the stupid git..hes never gonna play for another Englisg club again!..although vandalising his house isnt very nice

georgie121uk
04-07-2006, 05:14 PM
my opinion is that english teams such as manchester unit should'nt have such people has ronaldo playing for them
as man.U (an ENGLISH team) pay for his training, and pay him an amazing wage to make him a better football player,
and then he plays against us..?......

Ella
04-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Yeah thats a good point...we made him better! stupidness :conf:

James
04-07-2006, 05:21 PM
As I said before Ronaldo is the scapegoat for England's defeat, nothing more.

What he did is something many players, including English, do.

If it wasn't Ronaldo that was the scapegoat it would be the referee (like in 2004 with Urs Meier) or something else.

Slartibartfast
04-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Well said James, some common sense at last!!

Originally posted by easypeasy
i wasnt born cynical but the evidence my eyes have witnessed have turned me that way. like seeing an Argentinian player laughing his ass off as he took the dive that cost australia going through to the next round.

And this is the evidence on which you base your opinion that all Argentine, Scottish, Irish etc refs are biased and are gonna cheat when refereeing an england game!! Have you anymore evidence or is your opinion just based on conjecture and racially motivated mistrust?

And, Argentina never had any influence over Australia qualifying. I think the game you're referring to is the Italy - Australia game where the stupid Australian defender threw himself at the Italian running at him in the box and got nowhere near the ball. It was a penalty.

Or what about the spot on, dead cert penalty that Argentina were denied (the player actually got booked for diving) in the Argentina - Germany game which stopped Argentina going through.

As for the suggestion that english clubs shouldn't have foreign players, I don't want to be rude, but in my opinion, thats just rather silly. It would be against the principles of the free movement of labour within the European Union, it would be isolationist and would ensure that english football would be rubbish to watch and ineffective in european club competitions.

easypeasy
04-07-2006, 06:48 PM
ah get a grip.... you dont like England, why dont you just admit it? funny because id always support an irish team over their oppononts, not many irish people would say the same about England eh. mind you thats all down to religion...... same old same old rangers/celtic arguements and nonsense, its not just the english with slight prejudice when it comes to football eh.

InTheHood
04-07-2006, 06:56 PM
I think to be fair, football fans in England are far more passionate than the Scottish or Irish fans. I think Scots and Irish (and Welsh) are used to failure, and England, a massive footballing nation, demand more.

I think reaching the Quarter Finals was a good achievement, considering we only reached Round 2 :blush2: But we only havd 16.5m people :blush2:

But facts are, football is corrupt, whether it's the World Cup or the Scottish Highland League, it's all corrupt.

As for Saturday, well only Rooney will know if he meant to step on Carvalho.

You can't really say about what referee's you get, but all referee's are human, so they will have favourite teams and nations like you or I. I did find it very odd, an Argentinian in charge of England though.

One thing you must also remember, the Italians, Germans and French are worse than the English. They have in depth analysis at any exit, and the demand winning the World Cup...........anything less is not good enough.

Bigger nations have bigger demands, I am from a relatively small nation, we have biggish demands, but when we get knocked out, it lasts a few days and then we move on.

The question is, where do you draw the lines of racism? I'd find it racist of we were to play England, and a German or Belgian stuck an English flag in their avatar. Some would use it in jest, but over the internet, you never know if anyone is talking the truth or lying.

Either way, we have our 4 semi finalists, and based on the teams, squad of players and recent performances, Italy or Portugal must not win the trophy, or you may as well tell all players to go out and try and break people's legs (Deco on Heitinga) and/or dive (Grosso the most famous) and/or headbutt opponents (De Rossi)

Germany v France..............please!

easypeasy
04-07-2006, 07:08 PM
yep totally agree with the dutch viewpoint, In fact I like the dutch attitude to the game, fair and sportsmenlike. was a shame to see Holland go out the competition.
when it comes down to it anyone who really believes the winner of this world cup is the best team in the world is very deluded. too many excellent teams were driven out by dodgy refereeing and cheating players in other teams.

Dan_
04-07-2006, 09:52 PM
Italy vs Germany looked a decent game from what I saw of it, even players getting straight up after being fouled, what a refreshing change that was.I was certain it was going to penalties but two good goals by Italy and I think they will proably go on to win the world cup now, they just look so solid defensivly and have strength in depth on the bench.