Scott Left The House Today His Sister Died.

[JohnnyBB]

Scott has suffered a bereavement of someone close to him. After leaving the House temporarily to receive the news, he has decided to rejoin the House for the time being.

Could Scott Be Leaveing?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

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Awwwwww! Poor Scott! :bawling:

[MeMyselfAndI]

I hope not

[King Gizzard]

Same thing as Tom really, he'll be allowed to leave for the funeral and still come back

[Ramsay]

aw scott :(

[Holly Christmas]

Aw :love: hope he stays around.

[Raph]

Aw man, poor guy :(

[bbfan1991]

Aww poor Scott and his family:(.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Aww poor Scott, I hope he does leave, I'm begining to really like him.

[Josy]

It's hard enough hearing news liike that in day to day life, so it must be really hard to deal with it during your time in there.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

It's hard enough hearing news liike that in day to day life, so it must be really hard to deal with it during your time in there.

Absolutely Josy

[Jords]

aw :(

[Sophiee]

aww! :( I hope he stays.

[Marcus.]

aww poor scott :bawling:

[Fenn]

Nooo :( I dont want Caroline, Scott and Becky to spilt. All three must stay!

[saigon]

Hahaha.

[lahaine]

More important things then BB to be fair. I would leave. I feel sorry for him but i respect any decision he makes.

[Maia]

Aww no :( I really want him to stay though, he's amazing

[Saph]

I swear for like 5 series in a row now, one HMs had a family member/friend die :conf:

[Ramsay]

Hahaha.

:suspect:

[bbfan1991]

More important things then BB to be fair. I would leave. I feel sorry for him but i respect any decision he makes.

Indeed, same thing happened to Tom last year but he was allowed to leave to go for the funeral and returned to the house.

I think this will happen with Scott unless he decides to leave even though he has gone back in the house and they did not show Tom leaving the house either...

[saigon]

:suspect:

Yeah thats right.

[bbfan1991]

Will a Mod please help me in getting text in those quote boxes because I still have no idea?:blush:

[Ramsay]

Yeah thats right.

are you really laughing at the fact that he's lost a someone close to him..?

[Cherry Christmas]

I swear for like 5 series in a row now, one HMs had a family member/friend die :conf:

and none of them have ever left :conf:

[Josy]

and none of them have ever left :conf:

I think Tom left to go to his grandads funeral

[lahaine]

Indeed, same thing happened to Tom last year but he was allowed to leave to go for the funeral and returned to the house.

I think this will happen with Scott unless he decides to leave even though he has gone back in the house and they did not show Tom leaving the house either...

Yeah i assume they will. Depends on how close this person was to Scott, i wouldn't go back in to grieve in front of a country.

[saigon]

are you really laughing at the fact that he's lost a someone close to him..?

You got a problem with that?

[Cherry Christmas]

I think Tom left to go to his grandads funeral

No I mean left left, as in so upset that they couldnt continue.....

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

You got a problem with that?

That's not very nice! Someone died! :o

[I've Got Class]

You got a problem with that?

You're a bit of a WUM :sleep:

[Marcus.]

That's not very nice! Someone died! :o

yeah

[Patrick]

R.I.P to whoever it was died.

Nooo :( I dont want Caroline, Scott and Becky to spilt. All three must stay!

They had one ******ing conversation together. :bored: People need to stop acting like Becky is part of Caroline and Scott's little group. Jesus.

[Ramsay]

what a delightful person you are saigon :bored:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

what a delightful person you are saigon :bored:

Poor Scott! I hope he's ok! :sad:

[LemonJam]

They had one ******ing conversation together. :bored: People need to stop acting like Becky is part of Caroline and Scott's little group. Jesus.

Thank God somebody else has said this. As much as I like the three of them people have definitely jumped the gun here.

Anywhom that sucks :( he needs to be with his family but at the same time he's one of my favourites.

[Marc]

aw no :sad:

[armand.kay]

I swear for like 5 series in a row now, one HMs had a family member/friend die :conf:
Apart from Tom who else did it happen to?

[Jarrod]

Poor Scott :(

[joeysteele]

I hope they give him the right support.

[armand.kay]

R.I.P said family member.
Poor Scott!
:( My biggest dream is to get in that house but if something like this ever happened to be I don't think I would cope in there.

[Jack_]

Poor guy :(

[InOne]

Wonder how close relative it was. Has it said yet? It's weird that you wouldn't even think Tom went to his Grandads funeral last year, we saw nothing of it and it attitude never changed at all.

[Anthony Hatface]

Just to add my condolences and acknowledge his courage in returning to the House at such a stressful time. "Compassionate leave" for the funeral seems only reasonable.

[Black Dagger]

Aww, my thoughts are with Scott, and I know this sounds totally selfish given the reason, but he has to stay, he's one of the best things about this series, but bless him and R.I.P to his relative.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Might not actually be a relative, just says "a bereavement of someone close to him", could be a friend or something

[Johnnyuk123]

If a family member died whilst i was in the house i would go and not return. To leave then return speaks volumes about how close you are to your family.

[Urban Cragou]

Poor guy. :(

[Urban Cragou]

Hahaha.

You got a problem with that?

I can't speak for Karl, but I do. How rude and disrespectful.

[Marsh.]

If a family member died whilst i was in the house i would go and not return. To leave then return speaks volumes about how close you are to your family.

Not really for us to judge that, it's his own business.

[Shaun]

probably the first time I've seen the name Scott in a title and didn't immediately think of the TiBBer.

[Black Dagger]

probably the first time I've seen the name Scott in a title and didn't immediately think of the TiBBer.

It could still apply to TIBB Scott tbh.

[HBB1508]

Poor Scott hope he stays he is by far my favourite - might be because he looks a bit like Tim Curry (who I adore).

[psychtracker]

Leaving the house is the most interesting thing he's done since arriving in to house! :hugesmile:

[arista]

I do not like this
as he can be told how he is doing in the house.


He should be replaced.

[JohnnyBB]

Just A Heads Up It Was Scotts Sister who died.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Just A Heads Up It Was Scotts Sister who died.

Wow, must be a really hard thing to come to terms with in there, fair play to him for staying though

[Saph]

his sister? o: that must be awful

[GypsyGoth]

:shocked: :sad:

I think he will leave.

[lahaine]

No way would i come back to the house. Sorry his sister has died the last thing i be thinking about is returning to BB.

[King Gizzard]

No way would I have stayed in. Brave man

[Black Dagger]

Oh that is awful news :sad:

I'm surprised he's kept it together tbh, if I had been told my sibling had died, it'd have been game over for me.

I suppose people grieve in different ways.

[lahaine]

:shocked: :sad:

I think he will leave.

Which is the right thing to do. I'm shocked he wants back in.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Wow, must be a really hard thing to come to terms with in there, fair play to him for staying though

What?

His sister has died he should leave immediatly!

If i was in there and an immediate member of my family passed away i would be out straight away.

[Josy]

How do we know it was his sister?

[Merry Mockmas]

Im very surprised he went back into the house straight after finding out his Sister has just died.

[GypsyGoth]

Which is the right thing to do. I'm shocked he wants back in.

Yea, when I seen him go back in on the HL show, I was sure it was some distant relative.

He needs to be with his family.

[iRyan]

Are you sure that's true? I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to go back in after a family member died.

[In the Drunk Tank]

What?

His sister has died he should leave immediatly!

If i was in there and an immediate member of my family passed away i would be out straight away.

Well who are you to say he should leave, it's brave of him to stay in the house and it's his right to cope with the death as he wishes, and also that he's not tried to dampen everyone's spirits with the news

We don't know the circumstances either, they might not actually be that close and presumably she's quite young so may well have been ill for sometime or something like that

[Patrick]

HIS SISTER? :shocked: Ah ******.. That's horrible. :(

[Patrick]

Are you sure that's true? I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to go back in after a family member died.

..I would.

[Shaun]

She could have been a long-lost sister or half-sister or someone he didn't have very close connections to, but still, returning to reality TV seems quite... tasteless.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well who are you to say he should leave, it's brave of him to stay in the house and also that he's not tried to dampen everyone's spirits with the news

We don't know the circumstances either, they might not actually be that close and presumably she's quite young so may well have been ill for sometime or something like that

Im just saying if it was me i would have to leave to be with my family.

Maybe me and Scott share different morals.

[Sophiee]

that's terrible being his sister. :( I do hope he remains in the house though.

[lahaine]

Yea, when I seen him go back in on the HL show, I was sure it was some distant relative.

He needs to be with his family.

Family first BB a very very distant last.

I think they could offer him a place in BB14 as a exchange. Its only fair.

[Patrick]

Family first BB a very very distant last.

I think they could offer him a place in BB14 as a exchange. Its only fair.

Was thinking this tbh, considering it's still so early on.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Im just saying if it was me i would have to leave to be with my family.

Maybe me and Scott share different morals.

Well like I said we don't know the circumstances and everyone reacts to grief in different ways, and for all we know his family encouraged him to stay on in the house

[Merry Mockmas]

Are you sure that's true? I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to go back in after a family member died.

I think like what Tom did last year, his trying to get the sympathy vote off the public and trying to make sure that the Housemates never nominate him, it's sick really.

R.I.P to his Sister though.

[lahaine]

She could have been a long-lost sister or half-sister or someone he didn't have very close connections to, but still, returning to reality TV seems quite... tasteless.

I know this sounds a bit tasteless do you think he might think this might win him BB13? if it was a lost lost sister or half-sister.

If its not i do agree its tasteless of him not leaving to be with his family.

[GypsyGoth]

Family first BB a very very distant last.

I think they could offer him a place in BB14 as a exchange. Its only fair.

He must be in shock and that's why he went back in. I think if my sister died, I'd be inconsolable.

Spending time with a bunch of strangers in the hope of fame or money is as Shaun said tasteless.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well like I said we don't know the circumstances and everyone reacts to grief in different ways, and for all we know his family encouraged him to stay on in the house

Respect my opinion.

[Mrluvaluva]

His sister? That's surprising. You would think he would want to support his family, but who am I to judge other peoples actions that do not directly involve me. I am sure there will be an explanation. Different people react in different ways and he would have gone through a lot to get his place in the house. Maybe his family said he should not give up? Maybe his sister really encouraged him to audition for BB and was a great support? Who knows...

[lahaine]

Was thinking this tbh, considering it's still so early on.

I would take it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if i wasn't there for my family at such a tragic time.

[Samuel.]

Agree with Matt. Not really a decision for us to judge.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Respect my opinion.

I did, I just disagreed with it

[King Gizzard]

Respect my opinion.

What on earth are you talking about seriously?

[Loukas]

The daily star have an article about it. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/256851/Big-Brother-2012-Scott-Mason-to-say-in-BB-house-despite-sister-s-death/

[Callum]

So sad :( No way could I have stayed and I'm very surprised he has chosen to stay. I know BB is a once in a lifetime opportunity but he will never get the chance to mourn for his sister again, he should be with his family. I think he will end up regretting staying.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What on earth are you talking about seriously?

What are you on about?

[lahaine]

He must be in shock and that's why he went back in. I think if my sister died, I'd be inconsolable.

Spending time with a bunch of strangers in the hope of fame or money is as Shaun said tasteless.

Indeed i think BB producers should check him out of the house put him in a closed location for a day or two just have him spend time on his own and let him speak with family. then if his family and him think its ok then let him back in.

I personally would have been out straight away no ifs or but's.

[swinearefine]

I would probably go back in if I were him, because I wouldn't want my relative to feel like it's their fault that I'm leaving... even though they would be dead and have no idea what is going on.

[joeysteele]

I felt really sorry for Scott tonight, especially when he came back to the house and just went to lie down.

We don't know the circumstances of his Sister's death,really it's nothing to do with us anyway, I have little doubt though she and his family would have likely encouraged him to do it in the first place and also would want him to continue in BB if he felt he could do so.

Ironically,being in the BB house could be a massive help and support for him. I don't think he is looking for any sympathy vote,he cannot help when someone dies.
I would like to think he can continue in the series, he is a decent guy and as I said I felt really sorry for him.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I felt really sorry for Scott tonight, especially when he came back to the house and just went to lie down.

We don't know the circumstances of his Sister's death,really it's nothing to do with us anyway, I have little doubt though she and his family would have likely encouraged him to do it in the first place and also would want him to continue in BB if he felt he could do so.

Ironically,being in the BB house could be a massive help and support for him. I don't think he is looking for any sympathy vote,he cannot help when someone dies.
I would like to think he can continue in the series, he is a decent guy and as I said I felt really sorry for him.

Scott previously said that his parents didnt want him to go on the show though?

He said they were worried he would "bring dishonour" on them.

[cfromhx02]

Yeah wondered who had died.I thought it was a bit insensitive of him to come back into the house so quickly, but it depended on who it was.But as it was his sister that doesn't make him look good in my eyes.

Someone dying especially a sister brother or parent is far more important than fame and maybe getting a career through being in the house, unless he wasn't very close to his sister and she's been a bitch to him, like my sister's been to me, then it's more understandable.

[Saph]

Nobody can say he was right or wrong to go back in the house. For all we know he could have hated his sister? We just dont know.

[Samuel.]

Spending time with a bunch of strangers in the hope of fame or money is as Shaun said tasteless.

Gross way of putting it. I doubt he's doing it for either. I imagine he wouldn't have stayed if it was simply for fame or money. Not that anybody outside of the winner will be getting either.

If he feels he can appropriately mourn his sister while in the Big Brother house, so be it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I aint seen my sister in 3 years, we aint close but if she suddenly died i would leave to be with my family.

Like i said though thats me Scott is obviously a complete different person with different aspirations.

[Josy]

We don't know the circumstances for all we know it could be a half sister, or they may not be close, it could be anything really.

I know I would leave the house immediately if it was my family but everyone is different and families can be very complicated.

[erinp5]

I do hope Scott has made the right decision.
Very sad times for Scott and his family .

[Shaun]

I have a half-sister I've never met and I'm not sure I would leave if she died since I have no one on that side of my family that I know or talk to that's still alive anyway. It really is quite impossible, or rather improper, to pass judgment on him for this. Everyone deals with grief in different ways, and some of them might be questionable.

[jyunga]

We don't really know the situation though. He said his family didn't want him to go in the house but that might have been his parents. His sister might have wanted to see him go and enjoy it. In that sense staying around the house might be something that he is doing because he knows his sister would have wanted him to.

Extremely shallow of people to jump to the conclusion he might be doing it just to win the show IMO.

[flamingGalah!]

Wow, I'm quite shocked by this :shocked:

I can't understand why anyone would want to go back in the house after hearing their sister has died, even if he wasn't that close to her etc.. surely he would want to be with his family?? There are some things in life which are far more important than Big Brother & this is one of them...

[InOne]

I'm sure he has his reasons for staying. He seems quite sensible so it's up to him at the end of the day. It doesn't affect me one bit as he's not a major HM or one of my favourites so I'm easy whatever he decides to do.

[jet]

The fact hat Scott said he didn't want to talk about it could mean it's not a straighforward situation. Families can be complicated.
He didn't go back in to gain sympathy or play on the situation. He isn't going on and on about it or trying to dampen the atmosphere. He is just being himself - and I admire his lack of guile and honesty. I think he is suffering in his own way - he seems a self contained and dignified sort of person.

[psychtracker]

You'd wanna hope he's not particularly close to his family, and sister. Otherwise he may live to regret that decision, once his 5 mins of fame has inevitably worn off.

[Jack_]

Wow...that's awful, RIP to her and I hope he's alright.

And I'll only repeat what some have said in this thread already, it's nobody's business how he chooses to deal with the news and grieve - it's his sister, nobody else's. Admittedly I'd be straight out but like others have said, everyone deal's with grief in different ways and nobody has the right to judge him for it. I can actually see the benefits in a way - being in there would surely in some respects take your mind off of it, maybe that's why he's chosen to stay?

Regardless, he's entitled to do as he wishes and I don't think it's anybody else's place to comment on that especially at such a sad time for him.

The daily star have an article about it. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/256851/Big-Brother-2012-Scott-Mason-to-say-in-BB-house-despite-sister-s-death/

The sickest thing about that article is how it has an evidently serious tone and they decide to revert at the end to:

'HOUSEMATES got a scary I’m A Celebrity-style task yesterday.

They had to stick their hand into a sealed biscuit tin to grab a treat.

And they were warned ‘‘another surprise’’ awaited them.

Among the surprises were chickens’ feet, jelly worms and slime.'

What the ****? Sums that paper up.

[Patrick]

The sickest thing about that article is how it has an evidently serious tone and they decide to revert at the end to:

'HOUSEMATES got a scary I’m A Celebrity-style task yesterday.

They had to stick their hand into a sealed biscuit tin to grab a treat.

And they were warned ‘‘another surprise’’ awaited them.

Among the surprises were chickens’ feet, jelly worms and slime.'

What the ****? Sums that paper up.

Was about to say that. You'd think considering the show and that paper are ran by the same *****s - they'd have some consideration towards the housemates they're writing about, obviously not though.

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=Jack_;5206892]Wow...that's awful, RIP to her and I hope he's alright.

And I'll only repeat what some have said in this thread already, it's nobody's business how he chooses to deal with the news and grieve - it's his sister, nobody else's. Admittedly I'd be straight out but like others have said, everyone deal's with grief in different ways and nobody has the right to judge him for it. I can actually see the benefits in a way - being in there would surely in some respects take your mind off of it, maybe that's why he's chosen to stay?

Regardless, he's entitled to do as he wishes and I don't think it's anybody else's place to comment on that especially at such a sad time for him.


Really well put Jack, I agree totally with you.

[psychtracker]

And I'll only repeat what some have said in this thread already, it's nobody's business how he chooses to deal with the news and grieve - it's his sister, nobody else's. Admittedly I'd be straight out but like others have said, everyone deal's with grief in different ways and nobody has the right to judge him for it.

Of course we have the right to judge, that's what BB and these forums are all about. Judging people's personalities, reactions to situations etc. If you don't wanna be judged by all and sundry on national TV, you don't enter the BB house in the first place.

[lahaine]

Of course we have the right to judge, that's what BB and these forums are all about. Judging people's personalities, reactions to situations etc. If you don't wanna be judged by all and sundry on national TV, you don't enter the BB house in the first place.

Well said once your on tv your entitled to a view on that person. I think its wrong he's staying but i'm not Scott so its his decision.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Thats horrendous
I could never go back into the house if I was in that position.

[Mrluvaluva]

Of course we have the right to judge, that's what BB and these forums are all about. Judging people's personalities, reactions to situations etc. If you don't wanna be judged by all and sundry on national TV, you don't enter the BB house in the first place.

Well personally, I judge them as housemates. Depending on how entertaining they are, how they behave in the house, how they treat the other HM's etc. Their personal life doesn't really come into it. Their personalities do. Unless they had done something absolutely dispicable, like murder, but I don't think we've got that far yet...

[In the Drunk Tank]

Of course we have the right to judge, that's what BB and these forums are all about. Judging people's personalities, reactions to situations etc. If you don't wanna be judged by all and sundry on national TV, you don't enter the BB house in the first place.

Judging actions that occur in the house, on our screens, things we actually see, not judging people for personal responses to things that are nothing to do with the show, and where the circumstances are unknown to us

[jet]

Of course we have the right to judge, that's what BB and these forums are all about. Judging people's personalities, reactions to situations etc. If you don't wanna be judged by all and sundry on national TV, you don't enter the BB house in the first place.

We have the right to judge HM's on their interactions with each other, during tasks etc in the house. A death in the family is personal and outside the realms of our judgement.

[lahaine]

Well personally, I judge them as housemates. Depending on how entertaining they are, how they behave in the house, how they treat the other HM's etc. Their personal life doesn't really come into it. Their personalities do. Unless they had done something absolutely dispicable, like murder, but I don't think we've got that far yet...

If becky keeps eating chris's food then we might:joker:

[Merry Mockmas]

If becky keeps eating chris's food then we might:joker:

:joker:

[Jack_]

Well personally, I judge them as housemates. Depending on how entertaining they are, how they behave in the house, how they treat the other HM's etc. Their personal life doesn't really come into it. Their personalities do. Unless they had done something absolutely dispicable, like murder, but I don't think we've got that far yet...

I concur. Their personal life bares no relevance to their worth as a housemate and as such I don't think it's anybody's place to discuss it.

[psychtracker]

In general response to those comments how you don't judge HMs from outside events etc, only what occurs inside the house. Well, it's all intertwined with them being there in the present, and the general makeup of their personality etc. and basically impossible to fully differentiate. If housemate X tells a story about something that happened to them outside the house, you form opinions about their personality from the story they've retold etc.

[Mrluvaluva]

In general response to those comments how you don't judge HMs from outside events etc, only what occurs inside the house. Well, it's all intertwined with them being there in the present, and the general makeup of their personality etc. and basically impossible to fully differentiate. If housemate X tells a story about something that happened to them outside the house, you form opinions about their personality from the story they've retold etc.

Now you're judging the rest of us... I can categorically state that Scott's decision to return to the house and remain there for however long he sees fit, or until the time he is evicted, will not affect my view of him in any shape or form. It's irrelevant to me. (I don't mean that in a callous way).

[psychtracker]

Now you're judging the rest of us...I can categorically state that Scott's decision to return to the house and remain there for however long he sees fit, or until the time he is evicted, will not affect my view of him in any shape or form. It's irrelevant to me. (I don't mean that in a callous way).

So, if in the next few days, if he talks about his sister, and how close he is to her or something (as an example). You will not form any opinions regarding his decision. I'm not saying he will, for all we know it may never be discussed by him, and that's fine.

[Mrluvaluva]

So, if in the next few days, if he talks about his sister, and how close he is to her or something (as an example). You will not form any opinions regarding his decision. I'm not saying he will, for all we know it may never be discussed by him, and that's fine.

As I said earlier, unless he said something which I found truly dispicable or abhorrent, then no.

[psychtracker]

As I said earlier, unless he said something which I found truly dispicable or abhorrent, then no.

Ok, that's fine...you're entitled to your thoughts. I personally find it pretty much impossible to think that viewers can completely detach their thoughts in that way. The only solution i could see, would be...if Scott mentions his sister, that you turn off your TV or something...

[Mrluvaluva]

Ok, that's fine...you're entitled to your thoughts. I personally find it pretty much impossible to think that viewers can completely detach their thoughts in that way. The only solution i could see, would be...if Scott mentions his sister, that you turn off your TV or something...

Not really. I just don't find myself having to form an opinion about everything. Same way as I don't have an opinion on Benedict doing porn for a living or Luke A being transgender, for instance. It does not affect me. It's their life. As long as they are not hurting anyone, why should I judge someone for their decisions?

[jet]

Ok, that's fine...you're entitled to your thoughts. I personally find it pretty much impossible to think that viewers can completely detach their thoughts in that way. The only solution i could see, would be...if Scott mentions his sister, that you turn off your TV or something...

You are right, in a way. What we can do though is decide we can't judge a situation we know absolutely nothing about and which Scott has declined to speak of. If he went back into the house just to get everyone's sympathy and attention and that was obvious then it would be hard for a viewer to detach themselves from that. But that is clearly not the case.

[tweetypiebabe1]

Bless him

[BBUKAUSFAN]

People have there own way of dealing with deaths. and being with him family might not seem to be what he feels will be suit him.
He has formed a very strong friendship with caroline and i think he feels for comfortable being with her.

Oh a side note you have to remeber he only came out to his family on big brother? like he said they might have know....

[psychtracker]

You are right, in a way. What we can do though is decide we can't judge a situation we know absolutely nothing about and which Scott has declined to speak of. If he went back into the house just to get everyone's sympathy and attention and that was obvious then it would be hard for a viewer to detach themselves from that. But that is clearly not the case.

Absolutely. If he wasn't that close to her, either didn't really like her or something, then he should carry on. BUT...if he starts moping, or getting sad, i'd be thinking, what are you doing staying on National TV, when if you cared for her, you should be grieving with your family.

[sofialady]

Maybe it's not for me to judge, but I do find it quite baffling that he went back into the house.

How do you cope?

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I loss my dad 6 weeks ago, & I know if I was in BB & was told that he had died I would leave immediately to be with my family, but I don't think we have the right to judge to what Scott has done in coming back into the house, as people have said people maybe Scott wasn't that close to his sister.

[Cherry Christmas]

It looks like Scott is not particularly close to his family. Some people aren't. Not everyone has a close network surrounding them, he obviously wanted to make a point to them as he came out on TV. I dont know his circumstances so I can only judge on what I see, Its up to him how he deals with it as it is a very personal matter. This will split public opinion about him.

[Semtex]

I hope he's ok, but that is for him to judge.

I thought it was a lovely gesture by Becky when he returned, he must have really appreciated being told she wants to pair off Arron with someone else.

Her empathy shines through.

[MrWong]

I loss my dad 6 weeks ago, & I know if I was in BB & was told that he had died I would leave immediately to be with my family, but I don't think we have the right to judge to what Scott has done in coming back into the house, as people have said people maybe Scott wasn't that close to his sister.

Sorry to hear that BBFan4ever. I lost my mum 5 years ago today.

I know there are a few people on the thread saying Scott might not have been close to his sis but surely he'd want to be there for his parents, they have afterall just lost a child.

I hope staying in the BB house turns out to be the right decision for him and condolences to his family.

[Cherry Christmas]

Sorry to hear that BBFan4ever. I lost my mum 5 years ago today.

I know there are a few people on the thread saying Scott might not have been close to his sis but surely he'd want to be there for his parents, they have afterall just lost a child.

I hope staying in the BB house turns out to be the right decision for him and condolences to his family.

That's my point Mr Wong, he obviously isn't close to them, as he came out on BB, or so he says. I find him a bit cold and his eyes are totally flat and emotionless, total speculation here but maybe the reason his parents didnt want him on BB is because his sisters death was imminent. Like I say it will split public opinion, my opinion is he is a pretty cold individual.

[HBB1508]

It's tragic news and my sympathies are with Scott and his family but none of us know the circumstances so really can't judge him - it's his call what he does with his life.

[MrWong]

That's my point Mr Wong, he obviously isn't close to them, as he came out on BB, or so he says. I find him a bit cold and his eyes are totally flat and emotionless, total speculation here but maybe the reason his parents didnt want him on BB is because his sisters death was imminent. Like I say it will split public opinion, my opinion is he is a pretty cold individual.

The Star article says "shock sudden death" Though it is a tabloid so we can never be 100% sure.

I honestly don't think the paranoid, toxic enviroment of the BB house is the best place to grieve, who knows, maybe he's still in shock and might leave in the next few days.

[Razor]

Anyone know how his sister died?

[smeagol]

his sister died and he goes back in bb, wow now thats fame hungry

[bbfan1991]

It is up to none of us to judge how Scott grieves the loss of his sister because we do not know the full facts, people grieve in different ways and Scott's family might have told him to stick it out in the house because it is only a once in a lifetime opportunity, who knows but it might give them some comfort to see him do well in there.

He will obviously be let out for the funeral but I do feel sorry for him and his family at this sad time for them:(.

[MrWong]

It is up to none of us to judge how Scott grieves the loss of his sister because we do not know the full facts, people grieve in different ways and Scott's family might have told him to stick it out in the house because it is only a once in a lifetime opportunity, who knows but it might give them some comfort to see him do well in there.

He will obviously be let out for the funeral but I do feel sorry for him and his family at this sad time for them:(.

So is your sister dying.

I just hope he doesn't regret staying in the house.
Guilt can be a terrible thing.

[Kizzy]

My god, the poor family.

[bbfan1991]

The fact hat Scott said he didn't want to talk about it could mean it's not a straighforward situation. Families can be complicated.
He didn't go back in to gain sympathy or play on the situation. He isn't going on and on about it or trying to dampen the atmosphere. He is just being himself - and I admire his lack of guile and honesty. I think he is suffering in his own way - he seems a self contained and dignified sort of person.

I agree, he is perhaps bottling his feelings up and at the same time respecting his families privacy by not wanting to talk about what has happened.

I do think it is unfair some people are labelling him cold though.

[bbfan1991]

So is your sister dying.

I just hope he doesn't regret staying in the house.
Guilt can be a terrible thing.

Maybe he had discussed the situation with his sister before he went in the house and it was her wish that he continue? We do not know all the facts, so it is unfair to cast lots of assumptions.

I think he may have told Caroline about it based on her reaction?

[MrWong]

Maybe he had discussed the situation with his sister before he went in the house and it was her wish that he continue? We do not know all the facts, so it is unfair to cast lots of assumptions.

I think he may have told Caroline about it based on her reaction?

Doubtful. The article says it was "shock, sudden death"

[Livia]

I know that it's difficult to judge someone when you don't know them, or anything about their circumstances, but I do find it hard to believe that someone who lost his sister can carry on with the Big Brother thing. I lost someone recently and I couldn't function as a human being. My family propped me up while they themselves were grieving and I don't know what I would have done without them. If my brother had thought his Big Brother experience was more important than his family I would never have spoken to him again.

[tomflint]

I sorry but he shouldn't still be in the house.

Wasn't he struggling in the highlights show yesterday? I'd pull him out.

[tomflint]

I'm sorry but he shouldn't still be in the house.

Wasn't he struggling in the highlights show yesterday? I'd pull him out.

[bbfan1991]

Perhaps Scott might be distant from his sister? Who knows or his family encouraged him to go back in when he briefly left, of course he would still be upset if they were distant.

He probably is waiting for the reality to sink in, process it and then he might have might thoughts to leave but BB need to keep a close eye on him...

[Marc]

His sister?! Christ. Poor guy

[Kazanne]

Ii thought it was a distant cousin or something the way he came back into the house,not sure what his family life is like but surely you'de pull out,out of respect really.

[vickivain]

I respect everyone's opinion and this is just mine but when people are saying not to judge him then why are we watching the show anyway? Ita all about judging... dont be hypocritical... call a spade a spade.
Benedict was correct when he nominated him and his reasons I personally agreed with. When I was watching and saw his reaction I assumed an older person like a grandfather etc but coming here and finding out it was his sister took my breath AWAY! I would not be able to breathe or function if I found out my sister passed away even if the relationship was strained or distant. I hope that since this thread says he left the house hopefully when I watch it tomorrow he will have departed otherwise I wont be able to respect that dude... just my personal feelings tho :)

[Jords]

Sister???? What is he doing still in there? :S

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Sorry to hear that BBFan4ever. I lost my mum 5 years ago today.

I know there are a few people on the thread saying Scott might not have been close to his sis but surely he'd want to be there for his parents, they have afterall just lost a child.

I hope staying in the BB house turns out to be the right decision for him and condolences to his family.

Thanks MrWong:xyxwave:

[Time to Sleigh]

Bit off topic. But does anyone else think scott reminds them of stewie griffin?

[alex_front2]

I loss my dad 6 weeks ago, & I know if I was in BB & was told that he had died I would leave immediately to be with my family, but I don't think we have the right to judge to what Scott has done in coming back into the house, as people have said people maybe Scott wasn't that close to his sister.

Well if mine did I would not care. Not everyone has a oh so perfect family like yours. :bored:

[serensilver]

grief affects us all in different ways, he may decide in a few days he cant carry on with BB and leave and we can only respect his decision! thankfully i have never been in that situation so i dont no how i would react.

R.I.P sister

[Razor]

Bit off topic. But does anyone else think scott reminds them of stewie griffin?

Yes, I can totally see what you mean. :D

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

His sister died? Omg! :shocked::bawling::bawling::bawling:

[chuff me dizzy]

Lets be honest, he didnt give a flying one

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Thanks MrWong:xyxwave:

My mum died of lung cancer recently. :sad::bawling:

[Jamie.]

Tbf, it couldn't have been his sister or he would leave the house for good. I wouldn't go back in if my brother died.

[Tregard]

It may be he was going to leave but his family told him to stay in the house, I believe that's what happened in Tom's case.

[Sam:)]

He might have been aware it was coming, like she could have had terminal cancer. Obviously it'll still upset him but it might be comfort knowing shes not in pain and he may have already grieved when she first became aware of the fact its terminal

[Jamie.]

True, Sam

[smeagol]

He might have been aware it was coming, like she could have had terminal cancer. Obviously it'll still upset him but it might be comfort knowing shes not in pain and he may have already grieved when she first became aware of the fact its terminal


if he knew it was coming he would of surely spent time with her in the last days not go on bb. so it isnt that. that would be just as bad if not worst
if its his sister then wow he is stone cold

[Andrew.]

Poor Scott! but if he was distant with his family maybe its not affected him... YET. He did say no one in his family knew he was gay so... he kept alot from them, grew apart?

[erinp5]

BB have a duty of care and need to be watching Scott closely.Scott must have his reasons for continuing with the show ,I only hope he doesn't end up regreting it.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

My mum died of lung cancer recently. :sad::bawling:

Oh Vanessa I'm sorry to here that:xyxwave:, it was my dads lungs aswell, but not cancer.

[Halfwit]

Poor Scott! but if he was distant with his family maybe its not affected him... YET. He did say no one in his family knew he was gay so... he kept alot from them, grew apart?

playing devils advocate here: what IF his family wasn't very welcoming? we don't know **** what happened in the two hours he wasn't in the house.

[Vladimir]

:(

I hope he's gonna talk about it at some point, I would really like to know if they were close, because it's really strange that he decided to stay.

[smeagol]

no way his family didn't know he was gay i mean comon hello lol

[Fenn]

Do we definitely know for a face it was his sister? What was the source?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Oh Vanessa I'm sorry to here that:xyxwave:, it was my dads lungs aswell, but not cancer.

Thanks! I still dream about her all the time. Then i wake up and i realize that it's not real. :(

[pepper2012]

Poor Scott :(

[chuff me dizzy]

He might have been aware it was coming, like she could have had terminal cancer. Obviously it'll still upset him but it might be comfort knowing shes not in pain and he may have already grieved when she first became aware of the fact its terminal

It said in yesterdays paper it was sudden unexpected, but he didnt let hit stop him partying,his parents must be so proud

[spitfire]

Unbelievable. His sister died just a few days ago and he is back in the house perving over Aaron. What a heartless monster.

[Urban Cragou]

How did she die, by the way?

[buckfast67uk]

Unbelievable. His sister died just a few days ago and he is back in the house perving over Aaron. What a heartless monster.


100% agree with you. He is a despicable, disgusting inhumane person. Really don't like him, he has a face like a turtle

[MaratSafinForever]

Thanks! I still dream about her all the time. Then i wake up and i realize that it's not real. :(

Awww sorry to hear about that Vanessa :hug:

Stay strong :wavey:

[Jarvio]

Unbelievable. His sister died just a few days ago and he is back in the house perving over Aaron. What a heartless monster.

But people deal with grief in different ways

[Tregard]

Good lord, some of you people obviously have a gross misunderstanding of how grief works. Just because you'd suffer immediately doesn't mean everyone does. He could still be in shock or denial, it can last for days, or weeks, or months. Maybe staying in will help distract him, maybe shifting his focus is how he deals with problems, maybe his family suggested he stay in the house. You don't know how he deals with it, you can't know how he deals with it, and you should be insulting someone like that for dealing with death differently.

[joeysteele]

Good lord, some of you people obviously have a gross misunderstanding of how grief works. Just because you'd suffer immediately doesn't mean everyone does. He could still be in shock or denial, it can last for days, or weeks, or months. Maybe staying in will help distract him, maybe shifting his focus is how he deals with problems, maybe his family suggested he stay in the house. You don't know how he deals with it, you can't know how he deals with it, and you should be insulting someone like that for dealing with death differently.

A very informed and true statement, I recall when My Grandmother died,I was in pieces completely immediately,however some of my family just carried on as if nothing had happened,as you say grief hits people in different ways and also belatedly too.
One member of my family started looking for who was having a party to go and even organised some and still went on holiday, however after a year had passed nearly,it all came to a head and they were crushed and really upset then at that time.

As you pointed out, grief can hit a long time after the event.I hope Scott is okay,he may seem like he is smiling and at ease but none of us can really know the pain he may be feeling inside as he tries to appear to be strong on the outside.

[Urban Cragou]

100% agree with you. He is a despicable, disgusting inhumane person. Really don't like him, he has a face like a turtle

Unbelievable. His sister died just a few days ago and he is back in the house perving over Aaron. What a heartless monster.

So you're both saying that because people deal with grief in different ways they can be called 'heartless monsters' and 'disgusting'? Is that what you're saying? We cannot have people dealing with grief in the same way - it affects different people in different ways.

[spitfire]

So you're saying that because people deal with grief in different ways they can be called 'heartless monsters'? Is that what you're saying?

Yes.

[Urban Cragou]

Yes.

That's complete nonsense. Just because you would react a certain way to something doesn't mean that everyone else should and if you're seriously passing that across then I cannot take you seriously. How dare you.

[Jords]

I dont know how he can be tagged a "heartless monster"?

As people have said we all deal with grief differently, but more importantly we do not know the circumstances. Maybe he hated his sister? Maybe she had a long-term illness and they were ready for it and her last wishes were for him to continue?

Nobody knows anything so lets not batter these harsh words about. He seems a nice guy to me and funny and Im glad hes still in there.

[spitfire]

How dare you.:joker:

[spitfire]

That's complete nonsense. Just because you would react a certain way to something doesn't mean that everyone else should and if you're seriously passing that across then I cannot take you seriously. How dare you.

If you don't want to hear my answer, don't ask me a question.:xyxwave:

[Shaun]

Lets be wildly inappropriate, accusatory and judgmental, he didnt give a flying one

fixed that for you chuff.

[erinp5]

I wonder if he will leave the house for the funeral .

[spitfire]

I wonder if he will leave the house for the funeral .

Not if Aaron is walking around in his boxers.

[armand.kay]

How do you people know its his sister that died. It was not mentioned in the hls, on bots or by Scott himself. :suspect:

[spitfire]

How do you people know its his sister that died. It was not mentioned in the hls, on bots or by Scott himself. :suspect:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/256851/Scott-Mason-to-say-in-BB-house-despite-sister-s-death/

:pipe:

[erinp5]

Not if Aaron is walking around in his boxers.

:joker:

[armand.kay]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/256851/Scott-Mason-to-say-in-BB-house-despite-sister-s-death/

:pipe:

they are not official! They don't even have any sources or quotes to back it up. for all I know it could be his dog that died :shrug:.

[spitfire]

they are not official! They don't even have any sources or quotes to back it up. for all I know it could be his dog that died :shrug:.

I'll have a bet with you.

[JayBlaze]

Scott is a predator

[armand.kay]

I'll have a bet with you.
:shocked: No!

[spitfire]

:shocked: No!

That's because you actually know that it is his sister and you would lose the bet.:spin:

[spitfire]

Scott is a predator

I think he will get a prison sentence at some point in his life.

[armand.kay]

That's because you actually know that it is his sister and you would lose the bet.:spin:
It may or may not be his sister I don't know and until Scott or ch5 say it I will never know. I'm just not going to believe in something that is only stated in the daily star.

[Urban Cragou]

If you don't want to hear my answer, don't ask me a question.:xyxwave:

I didn't know your answers were going to be so nonsensical and ridiculous. Don't even think about associating my posts with your nonsense in future. In fact I don't even want to see you. Add me to your ignore list and I'll do the same.

[Ammi]

..we're all such judges of morality here..so far as I know it hasn't even been confirmed that it is his sister..nor any of the circumstances...
..until the details are confirmed by Scott's own family and not some sleazy gossip rag the 'moral' thing is to reserve all judgements of his family situation and how he deals with his emotions and focus on his actions in the house..the rest is of nobody's concern other than to Scott and his family

[joeysteele]

..we're all such judges of morality here..so far as I know it hasn't even been confirmed that it is his sister..nor any of the circumstances...
..until the details are confirmed by Scott's own family and not some sleazy gossip rag the 'moral' thing is to reserve all judgements of his family situation and how he deals with his emotions and focus on his actions in the house..the rest is of nobody's concern other than to Scott and his family

Perfectly said Ammi.

[spitfire]

I didn't know your answers were going to be so nonsensical and ridiculous. Don't even think about associating my posts with your nonsense in future. In fact I don't even want to see you. Add me to your ignore list and I'll do the same.
No.
:joker:

[spitfire]

..we're all such judges of morality here

He is on a TV show where every little thing he does will be judged by the public.................his choice.

[joeysteele]

He is on a TV show where every little thing he does will be judged by the public.................his choice.

He has never raised it or discussed it in the house yet that we have seen though, we would never have known about if BB hadn't even mentioned he had to leave the house for a time due to a family bereavement.

Then the press publicised it,however any knowledge of it has not come from Scott himself who prefers to keep his feelings under wrap.Therefore it hasn't been made an issue by Scott himself for others to make any judgement on, not that I personally believe we should because grief is something that has no norm as to how it affects people.

I can understand people of a different perspective not able to take that on board but as has been said, grief is dealt with in many different ways, Tom, last year for instance, had a bereavement in his family, he left the house too when it happened and for the funeral I believe but he still continued his whole experience in Big Brother.

[Ammi]

He is on a TV show where every little thing he does will be judged by the public.................his choice.

...we aren't judging them on their pasts or their family situations or how they deal with them..the only relevance is what happens on BB...I don't see why Scott should be judged any differently to the others...we're not looking into their family relationships

[psychtracker]

He has never raised it or discussed it in the house yet that we have seen though, we would never have known about if BB hadn't even mentioned he had to leave the house for a time due to a family bereavement.

Then the press publicised it,however any knowledge of it has not come from Scott himself who prefers to keep his feelings under wrap.Therefore it hasn't been made an issue by Scott himself for others to make any judgement on, not that I personally believe we should because grief is something that has no norm as to how it affects people.

Maybe he's decided to keep this unfortunate event "under wraps", because he suspects the other HMs would be shocked or horrified that his sister has just died, and he didn't leave the house to support his family. That's just a theory i know, and it maybe wrong. But he decided to go back in, and i don't see anything wrong with speculating about his motivations.

[Cherry Christmas]

Maybe he's decided to keep this unfortunate event "under wraps", because he suspects the other HMs would be shocked or horrified that his sister has just died, and he didn't leave the house to support his family. That's just a theory i know, and it maybe wrong. But he decided to go back in, and i don't see anything wrong with speculating about his motivations.

Agreed, we can call Trampy a Tramp, Conor boring etc, why should Scott avoid speculation, he put himself in that situation I expect he knows he will be talked about both in good terms and in bad. If he goes out for the funeral I would imagine the HMs will want to know how close a relative this is.

[Urban Cragou]

No.
:joker:

In which case I'll add you to mine.

[joeysteele]

Actually the really good thing is that no matter who it is that has sadly died, whether Scott goes out for the funeral or not,whether he stays in the BB house or not,I believe he will find real non-judgemental understanding and support from even the coldest of the housemates around him as to whatever he decides to do and whatever the circumstances of who has died.

I cannot see where he put himself in that situation,he didn't arrange the death of anyone, he didn't even announce it, it was BB who did,to our knowledge,even to the people who went to him once he returned to the house he didn't play on it or talk about the issue.
They seem to have totally respected that and him for that matter,they are also likely there for him too if he should need any or even all of them.

Thank goodness he is in there where there is a lot more support and understanding if needed.

[smeagol]

they should tell us. we are meant to vote for this guy. and i'd like to know if his merely coping best he can or just a cold hearted fame hungry rat.

[Ammi]

..they don't have to tell us anything in regards to his family situation...a family death is of no concern to the BB public..if Scott wants to talk about it he will...whether people vote for him or not when he is nominated is their decision..hopefully based on his time in the house..as with any other housemate

...nobody is 'meant' to vote..they do so out of choice

[smeagol]

..they don't have to tell us anything in regards to his family situation...a family death is of no concern to the BB public..if Scott wants to talk about it he will...whether people vote for him or not when he is nominated is their decision..hopefully based on his time in the house..as with any other housemate

...nobody is 'meant' to vote..they do so out of choice


they should tell us. its a game show a competetion. how would people feel if say he wins it and gets the money. then it turns out his sister who he see's all the time died suddenly and he didn't even give a crap. there would be a uproar.
The whole idear of this show is us the public trying to get to know these nobody's and form a opinion of who should stay/ go and who should win. personally i want to know if he is a cold hearted so and so or not. ....... all seems odd to me.

[psychtracker]

Actually the really good thing is that no matter who it is that has sadly died, whether Scott goes out for the funeral or not,whether he stays in the BB house or not,I believe he will find real non-judgemental understanding and support from even the coldest of the housemates around him as to whatever he decides to do and whatever the circumstances of who has died.

I cannot see where he put himself in that situation,he didn't arrange the death of anyone, he didn't even announce it, it was BB who did,to our knowledge,even to the people who went to him once he returned to the house he didn't play on it or talk about the issue.
They seem to have totally respected that and him for that matter,they are also likely there for him too if he should need any or even all of them.

Thank goodness he is in there where there is a lot more support and understanding if needed.

I find this a bizarre notion that you seem to be promoting the BB house as some of psychological counseling camp, or something. You gotta remember they've all known each for a little over 10 days. Plus, every word they utter has the potential to be broadcast on National TV to 1.5 million pple. So, i wouldn't exactly say the BB house is the ideal environment for coping with a family tragedy, or a highly personal event on the outside.

[Ammi]

...a family bereavement is private and that doesn't change just because a member of that family is on a TV gameshow..we don't have any rights to know anything..it's down to the family if they choose to make any information public...I certainly wouldn't..they have enough to think about..I'm sure making a statement to the press is the last thing to worry about...
..any opinion of Scott is made of his time in the house..we have no 'claim' whatsoever to any of their lives outside..
...anyone who judges him as 'cold hearted' wont vote for him I'm sure...that's their perogative

...and I don't think there is any 'ideal' environment to cope with a tragedy..nor is there any written rule..we all cope with emotions differently and hope not to be judged for that

[joeysteele]

..they don't have to tell us anything in regards to his family situation...a family death is of no concern to the BB public..if Scott wants to talk about it he will...whether people vote for him or not when he is nominated is their decision..hopefully based on his time in the house..as with any other housemate

...nobody is 'meant' to vote..they do so out of choice

Again, perfectly said and totally correct.


Really had BB not said anything at all, we likely wouldn't have even known of it until after the series.

In reality shows though,people do continue on them even when a death in the family has occurred, as I said last year with Tom on BB and also acts on the X Factor have too.
I just think BB should not have really said anything, not only to spare Scotts feelings on the matter but also his family's too.
Death in the family is and should be a private matter for the family to decide how they all cope with it and what they individually or together do as to coping with the inevitable grief from it.

[joeysteele]

I find this a bizarre notion that you seem to be promoting the BB house as some of psychological counseling camp, or something. You gotta remember they've all known each for a little over 10 days. Plus, every word they utter has the potential to be broadcast on National TV to 1.5 million pple. So, i wouldn't exactly say the BB house is the ideal environment for coping with a family tragedy, or a highly personal event on the outside.

Well your findings are very mistaken then, and if you read the post again it states that even the coldest housemates are likely to be there for him, in 'this' circumstance,not other circumstances,if he maybe needed them to talk to,which it appears he hasn't and doesn't anyway.So nothing to relay to the viewers in that instance in any case.
I believe despite the competitiveness of the series between them, people are on the whole decent when it comes to something like a death affecting someone.

They've known each other for only 10 days true, however in that 10 days they have eaten,slept in the same room and interacted together 24/7.
That rarely happens outside so some sort of attachment be it good or bad will come more easily and quickly.

[Cherry Christmas]

Again, perfectly said and totally correct.


Really had BB not said anything at all, we likely wouldn't have even known of it until after the series.

In reality shows though,people do continue on them even when a death in the family has occurred, as I said last year with Tom on BB and also acts on the X Factor have too.I just think BB should not have really said anything, not only to spare Scotts feelings on the matter but also his family's too.
Death in the family is and should be a private matter for the family to decide how they all cope with it and what they individually or together do as to coping with the inevitable grief from it.

BB is different to Xfactor though in that the premise is you dont know how the public feel about you or what is being shown....so he has already been out to get the news...hes gone back in...okay...but if he goes back out for the funeral...he will have an edge over other HMs...so the playing field is far from level....after what happened with Tom last year which obviously couldnt have been foreseen, the Producers should have put a clause in place to say if there is a family problem and you have to leave, then thats it you have to leave end of.

[Ammi]

..I've never heard of a death in a family described as 'having an edge' before...
..how very devious of Scott..

[psychtracker]

Well your findings are very mistaken then, and if you read the post again it states that even the coldest housemates are likely to be there for him, in 'this' circumstance,not other circumstances,if he maybe needed them to talk to,which it appears he hasn't and doesn't anyway.So nothing to relay to the viewers in that instance in any case.
I believe despite the competitiveness of the series between them, people are on the whole decent when it comes to something like a death affecting someone.

They've known each other for only 10 days true, however in that 10 days they have eaten,slept in the same room and interacted together 24/7.
That rarely happens outside so some sort of attachment be it good or bad will come more easily and quickly.

What do you mean my findings are incorrect? do you believe the BB house should be viewed as some kind of psychological training camp or something? We have no idea how the other HMs would react. And as i said previously, how do you know some of them wouldn't be shocked that he didn't leave the house, and now view him as somewhat cold and heartless.

I still find it bizarre you're quoting the virtues of Reality TV, as a way to deal with these events.

Here's the Wiki Page from the first ever winner of BB. I'm not saying everybody would come out of the BB experience feeling this bitter and mentally scared, but i think it counter-balances your "flowery" argument about what a great place the BB house is for coping with such a tragedy.

Bart Spring in 't Veld (Roelofarendsveen, September 18, 1976) is a Dutch television producer and the first winner of Big Brother in the world: in 1999 he won the first Big Brother in The Netherlands. Ever since then, he has been trying to rid himself of the image created by the show that he claimed 'stole [his] life'. [1]

In an interview with The Times newspaper of London, Bart revealed to have suffered five breakdowns in the past eight years as he tried to get back his privacy, now in distaste over the celebrity culture, quoting:

"If it's true that I helped to create that mindless monster, I'm not too proud of it...Big Brother took away the need to make inspiring programmes and replaced them with mindless chatter. It's time to put it in a museum for weird artefacts of television history.”

[Ammi]

..I don't see anyone promoting the BB house as any type of 'psychological training camp'..merely stating that if Scott does decide to stay.. they feel his housemates would be supportive of him..whether that's true or not remains to be seen as none of us know the facts and therefore shouldn't be assuming or speculating anything

[Urban Cragou]

..I don't see anyone promoting the BB house as any type of 'psychological training camp'..merely stating that if Scott does decide to stay.. they feel his housemates would be supportive of him..whether that's true or not remains to be seen as none of us know the facts and therefore shouldn't be assuming or speculating anything

Yet another excellent post from you, Amni.

[Jarvio]

In my opinion, the people who have called Scott horrible things need to be ashamed of themselves. People deal with grief in different ways. Do you know the guy personally, or the situation in detail? No. Very sad that people harshly judge like this...

[psychtracker]

..I don't see anyone promoting the BB house as any type of 'psychological training camp'..merely stating that if Scott does decide to stay.. they feel his housemates would be supportive of him..whether that's true or not remains to be seen as none of us know the facts and therefore shouldn't be assuming or speculating anything

Well that's what we are debating, joeysteele (and others), seem to believe that the BB house is a good place to be dealing with the death of a close family member, and i take a differing viewpoint.

Why shouldn't we be speculating? These constant lines you keep running with that - it's his private life, and we shouldn't judge etc. I find bogus. He's there on National TV, on BB...and we are on a forum commenting about a HM. That's what we do on these forums. You can't make some moral assumption, that because a death has occurred, outside the house - we on these forums should all retract our thoughts, opinions and speculation on why the HM decided to stay, or whether the BB house is a healthy environment for dealing with such a situation.

[Cherry Christmas]

..I've never heard of a death in a family described as 'having an edge' before...
..how very devious of Scott..

Now now you are just being ridiculous and reading something into my post that was clearly not there....:nono:

[Ammi]

..what is a 'healthy' environment to one person in grief would not necessarily be so to another..we all react to things differently and we all 'need' different types of support...there are no rules for grief or any other type of emotion...we don't know anything about Scott's family situation..he may never have met his sister or been estranged for a very long time..we don't know whether it's a step sister who he may not have been close to or even have known very well..if anyone wants to form a negative opinion of Scott's decision to stay in the house 'for now' based on what little they know...don't vote for him when he's nominated..

[joeysteele]

BB is different to Xfactor though in that the premise is you dont know how the public feel about you or what is being shown....so he has already been out to get the news...hes gone back in...okay...but if he goes back out for the funeral...he will have an edge over other HMs...so the playing field is far from level....after what happened with Tom last year which obviously couldnt have been foreseen, the Producers should have put a clause in place to say if there is a family problem and you have to leave, then thats it you have to leave end of.

It's all been done before though CherieB, BB did this with Tom last year and he appeared to gain no knowledge of what the public thought when he left after hearing of the bereavement and then going to the funeral.

Why is it alright for Tom to have had this situation last year but not Scott have the same this year.
I think it was Tom's Grandfather who died last year,I am not sure of that but never-the-less he continued in BB afterwards,I supported him too on that,it was a decision for him and him alone as with Scott..

Nothing unique is happening here if Scott goes to the funeral then does what Tom did and carry on in BB.
Or do people possibly just not like Scott for some reason hence more attacks on him personally despite him keeping this very firmly to himself,which it should be,it's a private family matter.

[Mrluvaluva]

If he chooses to speak about it in the house, then that's up to him. If he does, I am sure this will make some people happy, and they can then form an opinion on him, based on this matter. Until then, I don't see the point in some people banging on about it.

[Cherry Christmas]

It's all been done before though CherieB, BB did this with Tom last year and he appeared to gain no knowledge of what the public thought when he left after hearing of the bereavement and then going to the funeral.

Why is it alright for Tom to have had this situation last year but not Scott have the same this year.
I think it was Tom's Grandfather who died last year,I am not sure of that but never-the-less he continued in BB afterwards,I supported him too on that,it was a decision for him and him alone as with Scott..Nothing unique is happening here if Scott goes to the funeral then does what Tom did and carry on in BB.
Or do people possibly just not like Scott for some reason hence more attacks on him personally despite him keeping this very firmly to himself,which it should be,it's a private family matter.

Joey if you read my post again I said the producers should have put something in place given this has already happened last year to prevent HMs leaving and returning.... a clause in their contract to say if they have to leave for personal reasons they cannot return....one of the fundamental rules of BB is no contact with the outside world...I had no problem with Tom leaving last year as it had never happened before in BB history to my knowledge, but really this year a HM leaving and returning was preventable in my opinion.

[Ammi]

If he chooses to speak about it in the house, then that's up to him. If he does, I am sure this will make some people happy, and they can then form an opinion on him, based on this matter. Until then, I don't see the point in some people banging on about it.

..I agree..for all we know he may have already spoken to some of the hm's..he did say he wanted to talk to Becky..but BB may have edited out any mention of it as it is private to Scott and his family

[Cherry Christmas]

If he chooses to speak about it in the house, then that's up to him. If he does, I am sure this will make some people happy, and they can then form an opinion on him, based on this matter. Until then, I don't see the point in some people banging on about it.

Maybe we enjoy banging...:devil::joker:

[Visage]

If he chooses to speak about it in the house, then that's up to him. If he does, I am sure this will make some people happy, and they can then form an opinion on him, based on this matter. Until then, I don't see the point in some people banging on about it.

It reminds me a little of Freezer-gate last year. No one really knew what had happened, (at the time) but the speculation went on for weeks.

[psychtracker]

..what is a 'healthy' environment to one person in grief would not necessarily be so to another..we all react to things differently and we all 'need' different types of support...there are no rules for grief or any other type of emotion...we don't know anything about Scott's family situation..he may never have met his sister or been estranged for a very long time..we don't know whether it's a step sister who he may not have been close to or even have known very well..if anyone wants to form a negative opinion of Scott's decision to stay in the house 'for now' based on what little they know...don't vote for him when he's nominated..

Whilst that maybe true. I can't think how appearing on a Reality TV show could possibly be a good way to deal with grief.

[spitfire]

In which case I'll add you to mine.

Please don't, I will be mortified. :xyxwave:

[Mrluvaluva]

Whilst that maybe true. I can't think how appearing on a Reality TV show could possibly be a good way to deal with grief.

That's your view. Everybody has different views. He's entitled to make his own decisions.

[psychtracker]

That's your view. Everybody has different views. He's entitled to make his own decisions.

Correct. That's the whole point of forums and debate!

[Ammi]

Whilst that maybe true. I can't think how appearing on a Reality TV show could possibly be a good way to deal with grief.

..well I guess a large part of it depends on how close the person you are grieving was..that's not been made clear..
..I'm sure Scott has talked it over with his family as well as BB and the psychologists and they're all ok with the decision...he seems ok atm from what we've seen of him in the HL show..no doubt BB are keeping a close eye on him

[Mrluvaluva]

Correct. That's the whole point of forums and debate!

Really? Can you just clarify what it is we are actually debating?

[Cherry Christmas]

Really? Can you just clarify what it is we are actually debating?

Well if you havent grasped the various nuances of this thread, I don't think there is any point spelling it out for you!::spin:

[Mrluvaluva]

Well if you havent grasped the various nuances of this thread, I don't think there is any point spelling it out for you!::spin:

Well let me spell out the reasoning of my post for you, as you obviously haven't grasped what I was trying to say.

I don't think there is actually anything to debate about. We do not have all the facts to hand for a start, so therefore cannot make an informed opinion, should we wish to. I really do not understand why it is so important to some people to know?

[psychtracker]

..well I guess a large part of it depends on how close the person you are grieving was..that's not been made clear..
..I'm sure Scott has talked it over with his family as well as BB and the psychologists and they're all ok with the decision...he seems ok atm from what we've seen of him in the HL show..no doubt BB are keeping a close eye on him

Well...seems you've changed the rules on me. Before you were saying we shouldn't be speculating and making assumptions, and in your last two posts you've done exactly that yourself.

You don't know that his family are fine with him staying in the house, they may be horrified by his decision to stay, for all we know!

[Cherry Christmas]

Mr Luvaluva, several issues have been discussed over the course of the thread, what is important to one forum member is not necessarily important to someone else, this is what makes a forum if we all sang from the same hymn sheet there would be nothing to say, and no forum. numerous threads are based on speculation, not just this one...:whistle:

[Mrluvaluva]

Mr Luvaluva, several issues have been discussed over the course of the thread, what is important to one forum member is not necessarily important to someone else, this is what makes a forum if we all sang from the same hymn sheet there would be nothing to say, and no forum. numerous threads are based on speculation, not just this one...:whistle:

Thanks for stating the obvious.

I am entitled to my opinion also, so what is your point?

[Samuel.]

..what is a 'healthy' environment to one person in grief would not necessarily be so to another..we all react to things differently and we all 'need' different types of support...there are no rules for grief or any other type of emotion...we don't know anything about Scott's family situation..he may never have met his sister or been estranged for a very long time..we don't know whether it's a step sister who he may not have been close to or even have known very well..if anyone wants to form a negative opinion of Scott's decision to stay in the house 'for now' based on what little they know...don't vote for him when he's nominated..

Perfectly put.

[joeysteele]

Joey if you read my post again I said the producers should have put something in place given this has already happened last year to prevent HMs leaving and returning.... a clause in their contract to say if they have to leave for personal reasons they cannot return....one of the fundamental rules of BB is no contact with the outside world...I had no problem with Tom leaving last year as it had never happened before in BB history to my knowledge, but really this year a HM leaving and returning was preventable in my opinion.

I wasn't criticising you at all CherieB, largely I agree something could have been put in place, it would though have been unfair to permit someone last year to go out for a funeral and refuse this year.

There was also that instance of a housemate getting injured too, a couple of years ago but the door would have been left open for her to return had she wished and been able to.

It would seem having allowed this to happen last year they couldn't justifiably put in place such severe conditions that if there was a bereavement but the person wished to continue on BB that they couldn't now.
It may well be that Scott may not want to attend the funeral anyway, we don't know what the discussions are or what his needs and wants are right now.

My point is, why, if Tom wasn't castigated for attending a funeral last year and continuing in the BB house,should Scott be getting such a negative reaction to his situation now, especially as you point out with no other planning or conditions in place to accommodate these circumstances arising.
None of it is Scott's fault at all.

[psychtracker]

Really? Can you just clarify what it is we are actually debating?

Please read through through the previous posts, so u don't make a 'tit' out of yourself in future. For one, we were talking of whether the BB house is a healthy environment to be in, if a close relative passed, or whatever. It doesn't even have to be about Scott, per se.

[Ammi]

Well...seems you've changed the rules on me. Before you were saying we shouldn't be speculating and making assumptions, and in your last two posts you've done exactly that yourself.

You don't know that his family are fine with him staying in the house, they may be horrified by his decision to stay, for all we know!

..I'm assuming that BB feel he's fine to be there as he's still in the house..whether that's correct or not..no I don't know..neither do I know how his family feel..you are right...I don't know that they're horrified either...
..in fact I know nothing at all..and based on that there is nothing else for me to post in this thread for the moment...
..I respect Scott's decision to remain in the house..it was his decision to make and hopefully he has the support of his family too

..as I say..grief is personal..it's something you have to do by yourself..what environment you choose for that is entirely up to the individual..

[Mrluvaluva]

Please read through through the previous posts, so u don't make a 'tit' out of yourself in future. For one, we were talking of whether the BB house is a healthy environment to be in, if a close relative passed, or whatever. It doesn't even have to be about Scott, per se.

:laugh:

Your ignorance is astounding. I am actually aware of what has been discussed in the thread. If you read through yourself, you will find I have actually previously posted in relation to the subjects discussed. Do not take everything read as so literal. And of course the thread is mostly about Scott and peoples opinions on the situation.

[psychtracker]

:laugh:

Your ignorance is astounding. I am actually aware of what has been discussed in the thread. If you read through yourself, you will find I have actually previously posted in relation to the subjects discussed. Do not take everything read as so literal. And of course the thread is mostly about Scott and peoples opinions on the situation.

You merely inserted yourself into the middle of this discussion to stir things up..end of. :xyxwave: