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rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 12:24 AM
ashleigh and shevionne laughing at adams somewhat overweight body as he exercised was mean plain and simple.I hate that type of behaviour. theyve lost all my respect.

reece(:
25-06-2012, 12:30 AM
Pair of witches

blythe5050
25-06-2012, 12:32 AM
I dont like lydia she's so two faced she evem nominated deena. I thinl deena is on to to her tho.

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GypsyGoth
25-06-2012, 12:33 AM
I've just got to that bit now.

And yea, it was really uncalled for. I don't think either of them would like people laughing at them doing exercise :mad:

GypsyGoth
25-06-2012, 12:34 AM
I dont like lydia she's so two faced she evem nominated deena. I thinl deena is on to to her tho.

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Scotty07
25-06-2012, 12:35 AM
There was a genuine nastiness about it, not like they were laughing with him in a friendly joking way.

Locke.
25-06-2012, 12:40 AM
I dont like lydia she's so two faced she evem nominated deena. I thinl deena is on to to her tho.

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I agree.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 12:41 AM
There was a genuine nastiness about it, not like they were laughing with him in a friendly joking way.

Ive got a relativewho gets fits, Ive also worked with people with learning disablities and also have friends to are over-weight and the abuse, name calling, staring and bullying they have to put up with is horrific. I detest this behaviour and I also detest that no one seems to pull these people up on this vicious behaviour. caroline is also the same way.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
25-06-2012, 12:42 AM
they laughin at ma titties

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 12:45 AM
they laughin at ma titties

you think its funny to laugh at peoples bodies?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
25-06-2012, 12:45 AM
yes

GypsyGoth
25-06-2012, 12:46 AM
Scott would laugh at a blind kid walking into a wall.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 12:47 AM
yes

I think thats sick.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 12:49 AM
Scott would laugh at a blind kid walking into a wall.

thanks for the tip off I shall avoid this shallow piece of evil like the plague...lets hope he nor his friends or family never suffers bullying ill health or suicide...what a revolting person

GypsyGoth
25-06-2012, 12:49 AM
Actually to tell the truth I'd laugh at a blind kid walking into a wall too.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
25-06-2012, 12:51 AM
Scott would laugh at a blind kid walking into a wall.

:joker:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
25-06-2012, 12:52 AM
psss i was laughing at the actual comment not the idea of a blind kid walking to a wall

GypsyGoth
25-06-2012, 12:53 AM
:laugh:

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 12:53 AM
Actually to tell the truth I'd laugh at a blind kid walking into a wall too.

maybe you should visit cancer hospitals and laugh at people die, thats about the level you and scott are at....you make me sick

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
25-06-2012, 12:54 AM
well thats my monday planned

Halfwit
25-06-2012, 12:54 AM
I've just got to that bit now.

And yea, it was really uncalled for. I don't think either of them would like people laughing at them doing exercise :mad:

the worst thing, they are the kind of people that tell over weight people to exercise in the first place... just to laugh about them.

this is exactly why over weight teenagers don't even think about getting back in shape anymore, you'll just be laughed about more. i can't understand why **** like this is even getting air time, production is as well to blame as those two *******s.

Marsh.
25-06-2012, 12:55 AM
Scott is just a bitter queen.

Eosvox
25-06-2012, 01:00 AM
Although, I do agree that the girls laughing at Adam is insensitive and mean..Its not any worse than Chris habitual digs at Becky for her eating habits...totally uncalled for..especially given that Chris wasn't petite either..

GypsyGoth
25-06-2012, 01:00 AM
the worst thing, they are the kind of people that tell over weight people to exercise in the first place... just to laugh about them.

this is exactly why over weight teenagers don't even think about getting back in shape anymore, you'll just be laughed about more. i can't understand why **** like this is even getting air time, production is as well to blame as those two *******s.

I think it's good that it was shown though, as it reveals the type of things Shiev & Ash do.

However I still think it's all over that fake proposal, Shiev is still hurt over that.

well thats my monday planned

:laugh2:

cfromhx02
25-06-2012, 01:02 AM
To be fair it was mainly coming from Ashleigh. But Shievonne shouldn't have gone along with it

Jords
25-06-2012, 01:02 AM
At least hes doing something about it, they is totes bitches.

I did like how he knew they were 'laughing at ma titties'.. good sport! I like Adam a lot.

Jords
25-06-2012, 01:03 AM
To be fair it was mainly coming from Ashleigh. But Shievonne shouldn't have gone along with it

Her going along with things is becoming quite the occurance.

Scotty07
25-06-2012, 01:04 AM
Yes it was good that he knew.:)

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 01:05 AM
over weight guy threw himself off a bridge in my town last night,mocked and bullied he gave up. yet tv rewards this type of bile. this scott poster thinks hes funny by making light of it just for some cheap attention, its just hopelessly unoriginal , mean and actuallly thinks its a fickle subject, its a massive issue. its a serious thing to bully people and laugh at their bodies. to reward this behaviour and celebrate it on national tv is plain sick and sends 100% the wrong messages to everyone. thumbs up to everyone who calls it for what it is, sick.

Marsh.
25-06-2012, 01:06 AM
over weight guy threw himself off a bridge in my town last night,mocked and bullied he gave up. yet tv rewards this type of bile. this scott poster thinks hes funny by making light of it just for some cheap attention, its just hopelessly unoriginal , mean and actuallly thinks its a fickle subject, its a massive issue. its a serious thing to bully people and laugh at their bodies. to reward this behaviour and celebrate it on national tv is plain sick and sends 100% the wrong messages to everyone. thumbs up to everyone who calls it for what it is, sick.

That's convenient for you.

But, no, I don't think Scott's funny. Never have.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 01:06 AM
At least hes doing something about it, they is totes bitches.

I did like how he knew they were 'laughing at ma titties'.. good sport! I like Adam a lot.

100% agree he took it very well, most people would have burst into tears or lost their temper.:wavey:

Locke.
25-06-2012, 01:07 AM
Going to have to side with rinkydink on this one I'm getting a bit sick of Scott trolling this section

Scotty07
25-06-2012, 01:08 AM
Ive got a relativewho gets fits, Ive also worked with people with learning disablities and also have friends to are over-weight and the abuse, name calling, staring and bullying they have to put up with is horrific. I detest this behaviour and I also detest that no one seems to pull these people up on this vicious behaviour. caroline is also the same way.

I'm not a fan of them being told off over everything, I like to see the housemates true nature. It is up to them when they are evicted if they want to watch back and change anything about themselves.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 01:10 AM
That's convenient for you.

another sick comment, shame on you. I could pulll 10001 examples of suicides and eating disorders as a result of bullying. I am certain you are aware of this so you shouldnt dismiss it. by the way you clearly think everyone is as nasty and dishonest as you. I am from Llanelli and if you care to read the news in the next 24 to 48 hours you will read the story of a young man who jumped off a bridge. he was young and overwieght. teen suicides are on the rise, for you to trviialise it is disgusting. I suppose you think that makes you more interestting it doesnt. it makes you sick and you are the exact type of attitude people need to fight against

Jords
25-06-2012, 01:12 AM
100% agree he took it very well, most people would have burst into tears or lost their temper.:wavey:

Ive never seen him lose it yet, even when Shievonne was bellowing at him he stayed cool and made her look a pleb.

cfromhx02
25-06-2012, 02:02 AM
another sick comment, shame on you. I could pulll 10001 examples of suicides and eating disorders as a result of bullying. I am certain you are aware of this so you shouldnt dismiss it. by the way you clearly think everyone is as nasty and dishonest as you. I am from Llanelli and if you care to read the news in the next 24 to 48 hours you will read the story of a young man who jumped off a bridge. he was young and overwieght. teen suicides are on the rise, for you to trviialise it is disgusting. I suppose you think that makes you more interestting it doesnt. it makes you sick and you are the exact type of attitude people need to fight against

Well said, I'm on your side. I don't want to upset you but I'll just say this

(leave out the detail).

I've been treated appallingly by some on this site too.Just wanted to show I'm on your side and to tell you, remember (and I know it's not easy) to try and just laugh at nasty people like him if you can as a way of dealing with their abysmal awful attitude to others

and remember there are a lot of good people in the world too

Merry Mockmas
25-06-2012, 02:04 AM
ashleigh and shevionne laughing at adams somewhat overweight body as he exercised was mean plain and simple.I hate that type of behaviour. theyve lost all my respect.

That actually reminds me of a girl at School, I hate that type of shallow behaviour.

Merry Mockmas
25-06-2012, 02:09 AM
Although, I do agree that the girls laughing at Adam is insensitive and mean..Its not any worse than Chris habitual digs at Becky for her eating habits...totally uncalled for..especially given that Chris wasn't petite either..

Tbf the whole house was commenting on Becky eating all the food.

lou22
25-06-2012, 04:43 AM
ashleigh and shevionne laughing at adams somewhat overweight body as he exercised was mean plain and simple.I hate that type of behaviour. theyve lost all my respect.

Completely agree with you. It was just nasty and so disrespectful. Not surprised at Ashleigh, but I am at Shievonne!

crocs
25-06-2012, 06:01 AM
That was awful to watch. This whole show is just plain awful now. If this is entertainment, I don't want to be entertained.

Nobody wants to hear that kind of things. It's not going to get overweight people to go to the gym and try to lose the weight. It's going to make them seclude themselves and comfort with food. Or the result is something on the other side of the spectrum, some sort of eating disorder.

Adam has dealt with conflict well. He's never lost his temper but we don't see what those kinds of remarks do to him.

EDIT: What did Ashleigh say at one point of that discussion? Did she use the n-word?

armand.kay
25-06-2012, 06:18 AM
I am sure if anyone(lydia especially) had done that to becky they would be a huge up raw on twitter, TiBB, BOTS etc...

thesheriff443
25-06-2012, 08:32 AM
i like scotts posts and other members replys to them.
the world in general is a nasty place goverments spend more to come up with weapons to kill as many people as possible than they do trying to come up with a cure for cancer and other dieseses.

MrWong
25-06-2012, 08:34 AM
I dont like lydia she's so two faced she evem nominated deena. I thinl deena is on to to her tho.

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This thread isn't even about Lydia.

Kazanne
25-06-2012, 08:48 AM
ashleigh and shevionne laughing at adams somewhat overweight body as he exercised was mean plain and simple.I hate that type of behaviour. theyve lost all my respect.

Yeah,people need to get over the fact fat people exist,look at SOME of the comments on Becky on here,I would guess Adam is a big as her,at least they can lose weight ,people with a nasty personality are stuck with it.Ashleigh and Sheivon need to grow up and stop being so shallow,I like Adam he seems a nice guy so far.

HBB1508
25-06-2012, 08:48 AM
I always think comments like this say more about the people making them than the people they are directed at - nasty behaviour and as "adults" they should know better.

Kazanne
25-06-2012, 08:53 AM
over weight guy threw himself off a bridge in my town last night,mocked and bullied he gave up. yet tv rewards this type of bile. this scott poster thinks hes funny by making light of it just for some cheap attention, its just hopelessly unoriginal , mean and actuallly thinks its a fickle subject, its a massive issue. its a serious thing to bully people and laugh at their bodies. to reward this behaviour and celebrate it on national tv is plain sick and sends 100% the wrong messages to everyone. thumbs up to everyone who calls it for what it is, sick.

Well said:xyxwave:

waterhog
25-06-2012, 09:15 AM
marked there cards.

smeagol
25-06-2012, 09:16 AM
funny if it was 2 guys doin it to a woman there would be hell to pay lol

erm that sounds so kinky reading it back ooh lala lol

Marc
25-06-2012, 09:17 AM
That does sound horrible (hasn't watched last night's HL show yet)

Shievonne is slowly becoming a bitch

chuff me dizzy
25-06-2012, 09:41 AM
Yes ,like a pair of schoolyard bullies

waterhog
25-06-2012, 09:43 AM
That does sound horrible (hasn't watched last night's HL show yet)

Shievonne is slowly becoming a bitch

well said and what a one she is.

chuff me dizzy
25-06-2012, 10:13 AM
BOTH vile ,and think they are Gods gift to man

lily.
25-06-2012, 10:45 AM
Bridge Jumper Story if anyone is interested (http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Man-hospitalised-Llanelli-footbridge-plunge/story-16446618-detail/story.html)

I agree with what some people have said here. I'd rather be overweight than have a **** personality. I might have a big arse, but I don't feel the need to belittle others and mock their appearance just to make myself feel better.

ChristmasNeeve
25-06-2012, 10:51 AM
Shievonne is turning out quite nasty

Kizzy
25-06-2012, 10:55 AM
No I am not interested, there are newspapers and an internet full of sorrow and hardship. BB is my escapism...Some have farmtown, I have Big Brother.

I did think it was a little mean but they were laughing at all of them not just adam. I don't think it was malicious.

BizarreCharisma
25-06-2012, 11:04 AM
Can you imagine the uproar if they or even worse two guys were mocking Becky? sexism if you ask me.

ChristmasNeeve
25-06-2012, 11:06 AM
Can you imagine the uproar if they or even worse two guys were mocking Becky? sexism if you ask me.

yeah, that's actually the first thing that came into my head too

jacksonb
25-06-2012, 12:01 PM
another sick comment, shame on you. I could pulll 10001 examples of suicides and eating disorders as a result of bullying. I am certain you are aware of this so you shouldnt dismiss it. by the way you clearly think everyone is as nasty and dishonest as you. I am from Llanelli and if you care to read the news in the next 24 to 48 hours you will read the story of a young man who jumped off a bridge. he was young and overwieght. teen suicides are on the rise, for you to trviialise it is disgusting. I suppose you think that makes you more interestting it doesnt. it makes you sick and you are the exact type of attitude people need to fight against


well if they show the quiz they had on the highlights show tonight, we can all laugh at ashleigh's lack of intelligence to even things up.

jacksonb
25-06-2012, 12:02 PM
No I am not interested, there are newspapers and an internet full of sorrow and hardship. BB is my escapism...Some have farmtown, I have Big Brother.

I did think it was a little mean but they were laughing at all of them not just adam. I don't think it was malicious.

no they weren't they were laughing at adam and his moobs.

Patrick
25-06-2012, 12:06 PM
I dont like lydia she's so two faced she evem nominated deena. I thinl deena is on to to her tho.

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omg. WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH LYDIA?

Why is it in every threat - Lydia has to be brought up and slegged off? It happens on here, it happens randomly on BOTS, on Facebook etc

We are talking about Ashleigh and Shievonne.

Marsh.
25-06-2012, 12:44 PM
another sick comment, shame on you. I could pulll 10001 examples of suicides and eating disorders as a result of bullying. I am certain you are aware of this so you shouldnt dismiss it. by the way you clearly think everyone is as nasty and dishonest as you. I am from Llanelli and if you care to read the news in the next 24 to 48 hours you will read the story of a young man who jumped off a bridge. he was young and overwieght. teen suicides are on the rise, for you to trviialise it is disgusting. I suppose you think that makes you more interestting it doesnt. it makes you sick and you are the exact type of attitude people need to fight against

Excuse me? Stop your bloody preaching, I'm not interested.

I could pull up statistics for all sorts of things, doesn't mean one happened on my street last night.

I suppose if the girls were laughing at a guy in a wheelchair you'd have changed your story to "A guy in a wheelchair threw himself off a bridge last night".

I appreciate the sentiment behind what you're saying, but just stop.

Gaynor186
25-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Shievonne's been 'going along' with the little clique for a while now - Ashleigh's new bff.....I'm really surprised. Ashleigh may be a little skanky, but she's been who she is consistantly....

InOne
25-06-2012, 12:57 PM
Shievonne seems to get more vile by the day. Didn't take long for her mask to slip. She has that really agressive tone about her. She's probably actually worse than Ash and Lydia.

Kizzy
25-06-2012, 12:57 PM
Excuse me? Stop your bloody preaching, I'm not interested.

I could pull up statistics for all sorts of things, doesn't mean one happened on my street last night.

I suppose if the girls were laughing at a guy in a wheelchair you'd have changed your story to "A guy in a wheelchair threw himself off a bridge last night".

I appreciate the sentiment behind what you're saying, but just stop.

Frig its full of the 'new moral army' in here, ffs I feel like a right ***** for just breathing today....

meganova__
25-06-2012, 02:20 PM
The only reason Ashleigh is so thin is because she lives on a diet of semen.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 02:22 PM
Is this kind of stuff not typical woman banter? I mean, Adam did look a little ridiculous running around out there....

Merry Mockmas
25-06-2012, 02:30 PM
I am sure if anyone(lydia especially) had done that to becky they would be a huge up raw on twitter, TiBB, BOTS etc...

I agree with this as you can't touch the overweight girl, and Lydia is Satan the last time I heard even though there's more vile people in the house.

kistar
25-06-2012, 02:33 PM
well thats my monday planned

:joker::joker::joker:

kistar
25-06-2012, 02:37 PM
Is this kind of stuff not typical woman banter? I mean, Adam did look a little ridiculous running around out there....

Yes he did and yes it is , I guess the fact he knew they were laughing at him made it a little mean , but nothing outrageous, he wasnt that bothered so its all good.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 02:39 PM
I agree with this as you can't touch the overweight girl

Which is a little ridiculous imo.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 03:20 PM
Big up to all those who called this vile behaviour for what it is, plain sick. they specidifcally mocked and ridiculed his body. horrible mean nasty spiteful sexist take your pick. for those who think its fine to point at peoples bodies and laugh at them, youre sick.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Not to sound like an asshole, but I'll play devils advocate here...

This goes moreso to Becky than Adam. Being that overweight is a public health risk and quite frankly a little disgusting. Of course, certain people have medical conditions that make it impossible for them to be in their medically sound ideal weight range, so this doesn't apply to them. But Becky, she's overweight because she likes to eat, and shes made that abundantly clear. Its her decision to make, and quite frankly, a poor one at that. I don't think the other housemates should have to bite their tongues about it.

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 03:44 PM
This was a different situation altogether, please rewatch it. this is a big guy exercising and simply being pointed at and laughed at. that is plain disgusting. I would add that just because adam tries to politely laugh it off doesnt make it any more acceptable it makes it even less acceptable. guys generally tend to have a sense of humour about these things and dont tend to cry outwardly as easy as women, but that doesnt mean it doesnt hurt as much. male suicide rates are 4 times higher than womens. this is simply ignored by this stupid society we currently live in. it is FANTASTIC that big brother showed how ashleigh and shevonne really behave. BUT what worries me is when the observers and interviewers simply ignore it? why because bullying of a man doesnt sell newspapers? its disgusting and if you have a moment I suggest everyone re-watch it and imagine youre in adams exact situation.

Patrick
25-06-2012, 03:46 PM
I am sure if anyone(lydia especially) had done that to becky they would be a huge up raw on twitter, TiBB, BOTS etc...

So much truth.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 03:47 PM
I was just playing devils advocate, I'm not condoning it. Personally, I chalk it up to typical woman banter. Was it a bit rude? Absolutely. Woman are cruel sometimes. Guys can be as well. Its just life.

In the Drunk Tank
25-06-2012, 03:48 PM
As oppose to laughing with Adam's body? :suspect:

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 03:49 PM
I was just playing devils advocate, I'm not condoning it. Personally, I chalk it up to typical woman banter. Was it a bit rude? Absolutely. Woman are cruel sometimes. Guys can be as well. Its just life.

I 100% disagree youre trying to trivialise a particularly nasty piece of discrimination. Bullying like that must be called out for the puerile bile it is and stamped on with a massive boot. rewatch it and imagine youre on 24 hour tv and having your body being pointed at and laughed at when all youre doing is trying to exercise. horrible people horrible bullying sexist behaviour

ChristmasNeeve
25-06-2012, 03:50 PM
As oppose to laughing with Adam's body? :suspect:

:laugh2:

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 03:50 PM
As oppose to laughing with Adam's body? :suspect:

another non contribution , pathetic.

InOne
25-06-2012, 03:52 PM
Maybe it's karma for Adam's past misdeeds. I agree with MatthewS, it's just bitches being bitches. We've seen much worse in BB.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 03:54 PM
Is that really bullying though? I mean, its a bit rude, and I'm sure Adam knew they were talking about him and having a laugh, but they didn't maliciously say it to his face or anything. A lot of people have a laugh at someones expense, doesn't necessarily mean they're bullying.

Bullying is absolutely unacceptable obviously, but I just don't think its happened in this particular situation.

In the Drunk Tank
25-06-2012, 03:54 PM
another non contribution , pathetic.

tsk non contribution :nono: you're getting my best material here

jacksonb
25-06-2012, 03:55 PM
Not to sound like an asshole, but I'll play devils advocate here...

This goes moreso to Becky than Adam. Being that overweight is a public health risk and quite frankly a little disgusting. Of course, certain people have medical conditions that make it impossible for them to be in their medically sound ideal weight range, so this doesn't apply to them. But Becky, she's overweight because she likes to eat, and shes made that abundantly clear. Its her decision to make, and quite frankly, a poor one at that. I don't think the other housemates should have to bite their tongues about it.

How is it a public health risk?

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 03:59 PM
Probably not the best wording. It's a personal health risk, and if the UK is like Canada, more and more people are becoming overweight, which leads to increased chances of developing problems from weakened immune systems, high cholesterol, high blood pressure etc etc, which leads to strokes, cancer.......etc.

Not sure how healthcare works in the UK specifically, but in Canada it's all covered by the government. Health complications coming from an increasing overweight populations here are costing the government millions and millions a year. It really is a quite serious problem.

Ellen
25-06-2012, 03:59 PM
Unfortunatly if you happen to be an overweight person & you go on BB you are open to ridicule from people, it says more about them than it does the overweight person.
Im not sure bullying is the right choice of word, bitchy & nasty is more like it.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 04:02 PM
Is that specific to BB though? If you're quite overweight, are you not just as susceptible to ridicule in real life?

Ellen
25-06-2012, 04:08 PM
Is that specific to BB though? If you're quite overweight, are you not just as susceptible to ridicule in real life?

Yes that is true but what i was meaning is that if you put yourself in a show like BB then your more of a target for comments about been overweight.

fruit_cake
25-06-2012, 04:10 PM
Adam seems quite a passive character really

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 04:19 PM
It was blatant bullying discrimination and probably a bit of sexism too as that discrimination would NEVER happen so directly to any woman and if it did all hell would break loose. yet more double standards.

jacksonb
25-06-2012, 04:24 PM
Probably not the best wording. It's a personal health risk, and if the UK is like Canada, more and more people are becoming overweight, which leads to increased chances of developing problems from weakened immune systems, high cholesterol, high blood pressure etc etc, which leads to strokes, cancer.......etc.

Not sure how healthcare works in the UK specifically, but in Canada it's all covered by the government. Health complications coming from an increasing overweight populations here are costing the government millions and millions a year. It really is a quite serious problem.

Yes it is a personal health risk, and being overweight is as much an issue in UK as it is other countries of the western world.
However we still live a democracy and have some freedoms left to us, so if a person has a weight issue, I don't really see that,that fact alone gives anyone and everyone the right to comment on it.
You maybe able to justify to a small degree that you find it' a little disgusting' by dragging out the tired old, but it's costing us millions argument.
So does smoking, sports, horse riding, skiing, surfing, and every other kind of sport and sports injuries and in the UK, overindulging in alcohol causes far more damage to our society and our health service,than having our small island totally populated by fat people.
Then we have drug abuse....... I could go on....

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 04:25 PM
Again, saying something negative to/about someone isn't necessarily bullying. If we go by your definition, every single one of us has been bullied our entire lives and probably should be seeking psychological advice. I'm sure why you're bringing sexism into it, they're not having a laugh at adam because he's male, they're having a laugh because he looked a little funny running around being a bit out of shape. It really isn't a massive conspiracy or a huge deal.

Marsh.
25-06-2012, 04:30 PM
Frig its full of the 'new moral army' in here, ffs I feel like a right ***** for just breathing today....

As oppose to laughing with Adam's body? :suspect:

:laugh:

another non contribution , pathetic.

It was blatant bullying discrimination and probably a bit of sexism too as that discrimination would NEVER happen so directly to any woman and if it did all hell would break loose. yet more double standards.

Do you not feel dizzy all the way up there on your high horse?

Please understand what bullying is before bleating on about it. Calling someone a name, being mean or doing something rude does not automatically equal bullying.

Adam doesn't seem the type to be bothered by a couple of intellectually challenged, vacuous girls giggling at him.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 04:32 PM
Yes it is a personal health risk, and being overweight
However we still live a democracy and have some freedoms left to us, so if a person has a weight issue, I don't really see that,that fact alone gives anyone and everyone the right to comment on it.
You maybe able to justify to a small degree that you find it' a little disgusting' by dragging out the tired old, but it's costing us millions argument.


Again, I'm not necessarily condoning the comments, I just see their thought process. The thing about democracy though, is that it goes hand in hand with free speech. They can chat about anything they want, regardless of how controversial or rude it may be, its their right. Were they a little mean/cruel? Possibly. But they have every right to make that comment if they choose. Life is cruel sometimes. They're not the only people who have made a comment that could be interpreted as rude, everyone has said something nasty at one point or another.

And you're right about the smoking thing. They're quite similar and both bad for your health. I think one of the housemates bitching to another about someone smoking, it's essentially the same as them bitching about someones weight. People seem to be quite defense and politically correct when it comes to weight comments, but don't feel the same convictions when its about other equally problematic health issues.



Adam doesn't seem the type to be bothered by a couple of intellectually challenged, vacuous girls giggling at him.

Spot on. Nor should he be.

Urban Cragou
25-06-2012, 04:39 PM
Scott - we ain't in the bleeding soprano, so stop acting like it.

On topic, I agree that Shievonne is getting more vile by the day. I'm sure in a week's time you can multiply her 3% by 33.

There's fiesty and tough and then there's unnecessarily rude and really blowing your chances of winning.

vonnie78
25-06-2012, 04:40 PM
tsk non contribution :nono: you're getting my best material here

:joker:

crocs
25-06-2012, 05:25 PM
What does Ashleigh say when it's cut back to Ashleigh and Shievonne after Conor has said they going to do races to see who's the fastest? I hear something for which others have been chucked out.

Doogle
25-06-2012, 05:36 PM
Actually to tell the truth I'd laugh at a blind kid walking into a wall too.

omfg :joker::joker:

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 06:36 PM
Again, saying something negative to/about someone isn't necessarily bullying. If we go by your definition, every single one of us has been bullied our entire lives and probably should be seeking psychological advice. I'm sure why you're bringing sexism into it, they're not having a laugh at adam because he's male, they're having a laugh because he looked a little funny running around being a bit out of shape. It really isn't a massive conspiracy or a huge deal.

again I am disgusted by your condoning of this discrimination and bllying. youre false attempt to underplay it and treat it as fickle is nauseating and exposes your character. they laughed at a person directly and spitefully because of his body and because he is overweight as he was minding his own business trying to exercise. you are also playing dumb and pretending you dont see or understand the sexist double standards, if a man mocked a womans weight and mocked her body and laughed at her to her face as she exercised, the woman would be in floods of tears and the man would be called every name from misogynist sexist bully and worse. its double standards.

Marcus.
25-06-2012, 06:39 PM
why would they be that mean

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 07:12 PM
again I am disgusted by your condoning of this discrimination and bllying. youre false attempt to underplay it and treat it as fickle is nauseating and exposes your character.

I've said multiple times already that I don't personally condone the behavior at hand, did you miss all those posts? However, I also stated why I don't consider this particular stuation to be bullying.

BULLYING DEFINITION:
Bullying is a form of aggressive behavior manifested by the use of force or coercion to affect others, particularly when the behavior is habitual and involves an imbalance of power. It can include verbal harassment, physical assault or coercion.

By definition, what happened is NOT bullying. It may be considered rude/mean/catty/etc, but it's certainly not bullying.



you are also playing dumb and pretending you dont see or understand the sexist double standards

I'm am not playing dumb, I just don't consider the comments made to be sexist. Sexism is quite condemnable behavior obviously, but for this particular situation to be considered sexist, Shiv & Ashleigh would have had to make those comments BECAUSE Adam is a male. That's what Sexism is. A Prejudice based on someones sex. They made the comments because he looked funny, it had nothing to do with him being a male. You're upset that sexism exists, as you should be. The comments made however, were not sexist.

I don't get why you're harping on me for these views. I feel like I've explained myself quite concisely, and provided enough educated reason as to why I see things this way.

If you think I'm wrong, fair enough, but let's just agree to disagree then, no need to continue this bickering.

Also, I've never said anything negative to you, just stated my opinion on the situation at hand. You then called me "dumb", and stated that you find my views "nauseating" & "fickle". By your definition, you just bullied me. :laugh:

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 08:16 PM
I didnt call you those things I said playing numb....also to condone this type of bullying is nauseating and fickle...I feel I have the right to say this in self defence against the bullying and discrimination which you endorse and support

rinkydinkpanther
25-06-2012, 08:18 PM
I've said multiple times already that I don't personally condone the behavior at hand, did you miss all those posts? However, I also stated why I don't consider this particular stuation to be bullying.

BULLYING DEFINITION:
Bullying is a form of aggressive behavior manifested by the use of force or coercion to affect others, particularly when the behavior is habitual and involves an imbalance of power. It can include verbal harassment, physical assault or coercion.

By definition, what happened is NOT bullying. It may be considered rude/mean/catty/etc, but it's certainly not bullying.





I'm am not playing dumb, I just don't consider the comments made to be sexist. Sexism is quite condemnable behavior obviously, but for this particular situation to be considered sexist, Shiv & Ashleigh would have had to make those comments BECAUSE Adam is a male. That's what Sexism is. A Prejudice based on someones sex. They made the comments because he looked funny, it had nothing to do with him being a male. You're upset that sexism exists, as you should be. The comments made however, were not sexist.

I don't get why you're harping on me for these views. I feel like I've explained myself quite concisely, and provided enough educated reason as to why I see things this way.

If you think I'm wrong, fair enough, but let's just agree to disagree then, no need to continue this bickering.

Also, I've never said anything negative to you, just stated my opinion on the situation at hand. You then called me "dumb", and stated that you find my views "nauseating" & "fickle". By your definition, you just bullied me. :laugh:

I didnt call you those things I said playing numb....also to condone this type of bullying is nauseating and fickle...I feel I have the right to say this in self defence against the bullying and discrimination which you endorse and support.

MatthewS
25-06-2012, 08:30 PM
:crazy:

rinkydinkpanther
26-06-2012, 02:07 AM
:crazy:

you condone bigotry shame on you...

MatthewS
26-06-2012, 02:15 AM
If by bigotry you mean correctly understanding definitions, then consider me guilty as charged :wink:

rinkydinkpanther
26-06-2012, 02:20 AM
If by bigotry you mean correctly understanding definitions, then consider me guilty as charged :wink:

:crazy:You're vapid reply is incorrect and disingenous as always:crazy: You think its fine for people to point at and laugh at peoples bodies , their physical features and weight issues, no doubt you think the same of the disabled too as others seem to do on this thread. Shame on you!

You are guilty of actively supporting this bigotry and failing to denounce it as the bigotry it is. By supporting and condoning bigotry therefore by definition you are a bigot.

MatthewS
26-06-2012, 02:21 AM
You need a big hug.

rinkydinkpanther
26-06-2012, 02:28 AM
:crazy:You need a big hug.:crazy: silence bigot!

MatthewS
26-06-2012, 02:32 AM
You haven't really had a hug until you've had one from a bigoted hater of the disabled who properly grasps definitions of simple terminology.

:hug:

rinkydinkpanther
26-06-2012, 02:34 AM
You haven't really had a hug until you've had one from a bigoted hater of the disabled who properly grasps definitions of simple terminology.

:hug:

hide behind your perverted interpretations all you like, you support bigotry, you are a bigot...Sleep well bigot!

Josy
26-06-2012, 02:37 AM
Can we stick to discussing housemates/BB in here and not other members.

MatthewS
26-06-2012, 02:42 AM
I really tried to stay on point here, even when the other poster began making personal remarks, I think that's quite apparent...

At some point I should be able to say something back, no? Even if its just to offer a hug :)

rinkydinkpanther
26-06-2012, 03:16 PM
Yes with pleasure I shall not address this poster again. I shall of coursecontinue to highlight thi discrimination which will of course be ignored simply because it happened to a man and he used his sense of humour to try and brush it off.