Arron always starts on the girls

[Amy Jade]

When there is a problem with a female housemate he is very quick to say something and confront them. (Deana, Lydia, Lauren, Victoria)

But if the problem is with another male he backs down very quickly.

Has anyone else noticed this?

[Locke.]

Can't say I have

[Novo]

No just you

[reece(:]

Yep cos he's a massive coward, if only Benedict stayed he'd be a grovelling mess

[joeysteele]

When there is a problem with a female housemate he is very quick to say something and confront them. (Deana, Lydia, Lauren, Victoria)

But if the problem is with another male he backs down very quickly.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Sorry you are not accurate there, when Deana tried to stir things against Arron with Benedict, and then Benedict confronted him with it, Arron stood his ground and relayed all he had said exactly the way he said it,not Deanas edited nasty version.
He didn't back away from Benedict at all and the matter was resolved. Arron has only from what I have seen argued with Deana and Lydia because he knows from week one they have been slamming him left right and centre behind his back to others and also firing off at him too.

He simply hasn't had any major rifts with the other Male housemates who in the main he gets on with most of the time.

[Jordan.]

Bet he's a quivering mess now Deana has told Luke S Arron was in on the curry powder.

[rk3388]

no he fights the girl housemates only- i think he sees himself as one of them therefore wants to fight with them

[reece(:]

Like John James, only targets females because they won't beat him up

[smeagol]

maybe he is gay or something he doesn't seem to like women he isnt chatting any up wtf goes on with that. every girl he seems to go out of his way to abuse.
males thou he is fine with and backtracks straight away if any trouble

[joeysteele]

Bet he's a quivering mess now Deana has told Luke S Arron was in on the curry powder.

Had you watched bbbots you would have heard Emma re-affirm that Arron had already told Luke S that he knew of the curry powder, long before pure whiler than white Deana decided now to be nasty and try to get him into bother.
Luke S already knew he knew.

[Gaynor186]

Knew he knew......didn't know he was actually in on it.....go Deana!!

[Brother Leon]

Only time he backed down was against Adam really.

[joeysteele]

Knew he knew......didn't know he was actually in on it.....go Deana!!

Arron had already told Luke S anyway after Benedict left,so Luke S already knew long before sneaky 2 faced Deana did her nasty stint of tale carrying.

Go Deana, yes please, out the door on friday.

[Jordan.]

Had you watched bbbots you would have heard Emma re-affirm that Arron had already told Luke S that he knew of the curry powder, long before pure whiler than white Deana decided now to be nasty and try to get him into bother.
Luke S already knew he knew.

I did watch it actually and Jamie said Luke 'pretended' he knew about it and then stormed off to the DR slamming the door.

Emma only thought Arron had told him, I don't remember seeing it.

[joeysteele]

I did watch it actually and Jamie said Luke 'pretended' he knew about it and then stormed off to the DR slamming the door.

Emma only thought Arron had told him, I don't remember seeing it.

Jamie said Luke when told by Deana said he knew that and then Emma jumped in and said she had seen Arron tell Luke S, Emma clearly said that she had seen that, they do get to see footage we don't.

She clearly said that Arron had told Luke S himself anyway, she is hardly going to make it up but in any event what a rotten sneaky and nasty thing for Deana to try to do anyway just like when she went off with only a few words of the whole conversation tittle tattling to Benedict, again abut Arron.
Luke A also knew about it too, don't see Deana playing the balance and trying to tell on him though

Odd how Arron cannot do anything perceived wrong to her but she can do anything false and nasty as to Arron and be declared miss innocent all the time. She is a nasty piece of work is Deana and not to be trusted, I for sure wouldn't.

[vortex]

He really is a coward, women always seem like the easier target for him.

[MrWong]

Had you watched bbbots you would have heard Emma re-affirm that Arron had already told Luke S that he knew of the curry powder, long before pure whiler than white Deana decided now to be nasty and try to get him into bother.
Luke S already knew he knew.

I think Emma's confused.

Arron waffled on about the Benedict/curry prank but he didn't admit he was in on it and he certainly didn't let on how great he thought it was.

[MrWong]

Jamie said Luke when told by Deana said he knew that and then Emma jumped in and said she had seen Arron tell Luke S, Emma clearly said that she had seen that, they do get to see footage we don't.

She clearly said that Arron had told Luke S himself anyway, she is hardly going to make it up but in any event what a rotten sneaky and nasty thing for Deana to try to do anyway just like when she went off with only a few words of the whole conversation tittle tattling to Benedict, again abut Arron.
Luke A also knew about it too, don't see Deana playing the balance and trying to tell on him though

Odd how Arron cannot do anything perceived wrong to her but she can do anything false and nasty as to Arron and be declared miss innocent all the time. She is a nasty piece of work is Deana and not to be trusted, I for sure wouldn't.

Arron has been targeting Deana for a while now. It was rotten, sneaky and nasty when he stole from her and when he singled her out for drinking and when he taunted her for being sh!t at the eating task.

If Deana is retaliating to all of that then good on her.

It's about time Arron was shown up for being a two-faced snidey little twat.

[fruit_cake]

Arron was in on curry gate? Amazing, Deana doesn't eat a bit of ham and they single her out excusing it as 'not taking one for the team' yet, when the team itself backstabs each other it's perfectly acceptable!

Once Deana's gone hopefully they'll turn their knives on each other

[Tym]

Actually, Arron looked like a scared little boy when he was being given out to by Benedict:P

[Razor]

When there is a problem with a female housemate he is very quick to say something and confront them. (Deana, Lydia, Lauren, Victoria)

But if the problem is with another male he backs down very quickly.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I have been saying this for weeks. Aaron only seems to pick on girls be it an argument or a prank. The guy is spineless and a likes to bully women.

[flamingGalah!]

Arron is a horrible, cowardly bully. I agree that he is similar to John James, both sexist twats who bully women :nono:

[Kizzy]

Have to agree there he just loves to have a dig at lasses, prob as he darn't at home. have you seen the women in his family though?...woah they make becky look like kate moss haha

[Marc]

Reminds me of John James and Rachael White in BB11

[Niamh.]

maybe he is gay or something he doesn't seem to like women he isnt chatting any up wtf goes on with that. every girl he seems to go out of his way to abuse.
males thou he is fine with and backtracks straight away if any trouble

Since when do gay men not like women?, most gay men that have been in there have been mainly friends with the girls :suspect:

[Petershaw1984]

If arron left to bad uns he could win

[Ellen]

Have to agree there he just loves to have a dig at lasses, prob as he darn't at home. have you seen the women in his family though?...woah they make becky look like kate moss haha

Not a massive fan of Arron's but no need to slag off his family. Not nice.

[smeagol]

Since when do gay men not like women?, most gay men that have been in there have been mainly friends with the girls :suspect:


i knew someone would take that wrong lol

maybe he likes woman but not in that way and cant deal with it so is nasty to them because of it. is what i mean.

[joeysteele]

I did watch it actually and Jamie said Luke 'pretended' he knew about it and then stormed off to the DR slamming the door.

Emma only thought Arron had told him, I don't remember seeing it.

Hi Jordan, as this was the thread we had a sort of difference of opinion on the issue of whether Arron had told Luke S as to the curry powder or not, I am addressing this here.

You were correct, he hadn't told Luke S. so Jamie was right and Emma was supposing I guess.
I therefore apologise for insisting he had when I ought to have got it confirmed he had first.

You were right. I was wrong.

[Sophiee]

or maybe he just can't stand deana and lydia?
he doesn't appear to have a problem with anybody else other than these.

[Amy Jade]

No just you

Apparently not judging by the replies. Wrong, again.

[Vanessa]

or maybe he just can't stand deana and lydia?
he doesn't appear to have a problem with anybody else other than these.

:worship::worship::worship:

[InOne]

Big Adam turned him from a mardy manly manc into a quivering little boy without even standing up. There's a reason he only goes for girls.

[alex_front2]

Can't say I have
Adam - when Arron was rebelling with light switch
Benedict - when the porn star put curry in his best mates protein shake formula
Luke S even - Arran has now twice expressed annoyance at Luke Ss dominance and needto lead but has not confronted Luke with this
Chris - did not back up.Luke over food row

Hope this helps you to stop pretending Arron doesnt do this. You're welcome

[joeysteele]

The likely truth is,he has little problem with the guys and in the main has no real grievance with them, he clearly finds some of the females irritating and gets wound up at/by them.

I am actually the same, although I don't argue and try to avoid conflicts,I am far more at odds at Uni with Female students than other Male ones.

He hasn't argued with the other females in there anyway only Deana and Lydia and most of the other housemates have particularly with Lydia too.

[alex_front2]

or maybe he just can't stand deana and lydia?
he doesn't appear to have a problem with anybody else other than these.

Plus hes had digs at
Victoria Laura and today he bitched with Conor over Sara.

[aman201]

he's **** himself infront adam, ben and luke s.

when ben confronted him, arron was licking his arse. "your cool man"

lol, mug.

[aman201]

joey dont forget being vile to victoria

[cfromhx02]

Exactly. I've said I'd like to see him and the other two come out of the house and act so big, then said as a joke of course we'd just laugh at him.

He is just really aggressive with females.

And it's something I've noticed before.

That a lot of men who beat up their partners are usually short or if not they have never been able to fight boys when they were younger.
So they grow up being ashamed of it and then when they are older take it out on women to try and prove how masculine they are.

Sometimes you occasionally get a big bloke who is hard who will still attack women, but usually it's small or weak guys who couldn't stand up to boys when they were younger that then have to take it out on women to try and prove they are masculine.

Arron is a classic example of that.

He wouldn't dare say "boo" to any man who he knew is able to really fight, he would always back down from them, just as he does to the guys in the house.

He is a typical boy who hasn't been able to stand up for himself when he is younger and now he's the typical "all talk no action" sort of guy who will only talk tough to women but will back down and daren't say so to men.Deanna has eralized that he only talks tough to girls and doesn't to men because she called him "pussyboy" I think when she was talking to Shievonne or it may have been someone else

[Manal]

no he fights the girl housemates only- i think he sees himself as one of them therefore wants to fight with them

Lol, I agree he is jealous from them :p

[Munchkins]

Arron is really quite vile at the moment :(

[Vanessa]

But he only has a problem with Deena and Lydia. He gets on well with the other girls. He's never argued with them. :suspect:

[Semtex]

He can't get on with women because once they see through the pretty boy exterior they find that he is a narcissistic, misogynistic, foul mouthed, inarticulate bell-end.

[iRyan]

Reminds me of John James and Rachael White in BB11

Completely spot on.

[Vanessa]

Completely spot on.

I couldn't stand Rachel! :bored:

[iRyan]

I couldn't stand Rachel! :bored:

Rachael did nothing wrong. John James had a vendetta against her since Day 1.

No surprise you would take his defense like you are with Arron though. I doubt you would if they weren't "fit"

[Marcus.]

I couldn't stand Rachel! :bored:

i did not like her as well

[Vanessa]

Rachael did nothing wrong. John James had a vendetta against her since Day 1.

No surprise you would take his defense like you are with Arron though. I doubt you would if they weren't "fit"

Rachel was so pissed of because John James didn't fancy her. She expected him to fall at her feet! Sour grapes anyone? :joker:

[Vanessa]

i did not like her as well

She got so angry with John James because he didn't fancy her! :laugh:

[Marcus.]

She got so angry with John James because he didn't fancy her! :laugh:

yeah i was funny

[Vanessa]

yeah i was funny

She expected him to fall on his feet and worship her! :joker:

[Marcus.]

She expected him to fall on his feet and worship her! :joker:

yeah then she was like i get an meg deal

[Vanessa]

yeah then she was like i get an meg deal

That's all she was interested in. The silly cow! :bored:

[Marcus.]

That's all she was interested in. The silly cow! :bored:

where is she now

[joeysteele]

joey dont forget being vile to victoria

She's out now,however, anyway had she kept her nose out and not forced him to say who he would evict and then also had she just accepted it when he said 'you' to her instead of going all huffy and getting at him herself,she challneged him first, then he would likely have never said a wrong word to her.

She was 100% to blame for that not him and I was glad he stuck up for his decision and took no nonsense from her, she always went on about being the oldest in there but she showed herself to be huffy and the most childish of the lot in my opinion.

She was totally boring as a housemate and all her appearances on bbbots too have been equally boring, She asked for what she got sfter that game and she got what she deserved too by being voted out by the public that week too.

[Vanessa]

She's out now,however, anyway had she kept her nose out and not forced him to say who he would evict and then also had she just accepted it when he said 'you' to her instead of going all huffy and getting at him herself,she challneged him first, then he would likely have never said a wrong word to her.

She was 100% to blame for that not him and I was glad he stuck up for his decision and took no nonsense from her, she always went on about being the oldest in there but she showed herself to be huffy and the most childish of the lot in my opinion.

She was totally boring as a housemate and all her appearances on bbbots too have been equally boring, She asked for what she got sfter that game and she got what she deserved too by being voted out by the public that week too.

That's why i like Arron. He's very straight talking and doesn't take any nonsense fro anyone. :)

[Me. I Am Salman]

That's why i like Arron. He's very straight talking and doesn't take any nonsense fro anyone. :)

*from women

[joeysteele]

He didn't shy away from dealing with Benedict to either be fair,Arron has never had a major issue with the Males so hasn't had to take a stand, by and large they accept him as he is and don't have any problems with them.

With Benedict, Arron didn't cave in and walk away, he re-iterated in full what he had actually said in the conversation as opposed to Deana's inventive and edited report of it.

In the conversation he was having with another housemate, he said he had a conversation with Benedict that was to him boring but that Benedict was a really intelliegent guy, too intelligent for him.

He stated that in full when Benedict confronted him too, he didn't run away and make excuses.he said exactly what he had said in the actual conversation.
He even challeneged Benedict to tell him who had said he said Benedict was boring, Benedict wouldn't say ,Benedict backed down and cowardly wouldn't tell Arron it was Deana.

Deana on her part knows full well Benedict didn't reveal it was her and even lied for her, saying neither her or Lydia had said it to him.
Deana is good at exposing other faults but she has not had the courage to say it was her so who is the real coward as to this issue, certainly not Arron.

The issue of the lights with Adam, was hardly even an issue and Arron as soon as he realised they were all going to suffer for his prank, apologised not only to Adam but also to the others.
He hasn't had a single issue with any other male housemate so why on earth would he argue with them.

On the issue with Benedict alone, Arron acted with decency and firmness in explaining his corner and defending himself.
Benedict for his lying for Deana and her not owning up to the scheming nastiness she did on running to Benedict,both acted like cowards and had not having a shred of decency.

[alex_front2]

Since when do gay men not like women?, most gay men that have been in there have been mainly friends with the girls :suspect:

Erm gay men are prob the biggest misogynists. They'll often say nasty stuff about womens bodies make comments about fish then scream homophobia when you put them in their place. Julian Clarey made a career out of mocking women then playes the homophobia card when that Muslim (?) comedian dissed him. As if its womens fault that most gay guys seem to be queeny unmasculine and camp. Not my problem.

[joeysteele]

I have a good few 'gay' friends at Uni and among my friends I have had from being at school.
I find that Women forge close relationships with gay men because they feel they can talk to/confide in them and very often too if the gay guys have problems in life,you are likely to find they have strong supportive females that they can confide in too.

Niamh is right on that one that Gay guys have always in the main got on with female housemates better. Tom with Alex last year is a perfect example, they are still good friends now.

[MrWong]

He rants and raves at women.

He talks his way out of situations with men.

He's a pussy.

[joeysteele]

He rants and raves at women.

He talks his way out of situations with men.

He's a pussy.

and the females don't rant at him do they not.
Benedict kept calm, Arron stayed calm, often he has to shout over the women to get a word in.He is also aware that Deana never listens anyway.

As for women, he has as I said had issues with Victoria and Deana and Lydia only,oddly enough none of the other women, so out of all the women that went in it's only 3 in reality he has argued with
Lydia has done little else but rant and shout from going in for instance with both men and women.

Anyway,it's a waste of time, the inference was he takes on women and runs away from men, I have shown in my posts where he has not done that at all, he has stood his ground with both in different ways.

[Macie Lightfoot]

and the females don't rant at him do they not.
Benedict kept calm, Arron stayed calm, often he has to shout over the women to get a word in.He is also aware that Deana never listens anyway.

As for women, he has as I said had issues with Victoria and Deana and Lydia only,oddly enough none of the other women, so out of all the women that went in it's only 3 in reality he has argued with
Lydia has done little else but rant and shout from going in for instance with both men and women.

Anyway,it's a waste of time, the inference was he takes on women and runs away from men, I have shown in my posts where he has not done that at all, he has stood his ground with both in different ways.

Deana kept calm and didn't raise her voice in their most recent confrontation :wavey:

[joeysteele]

Deana kept calm and didn't raise her voice in their most recent confrontation :wavey:

I have no problem with the way Deana acts when in a dispute,I never said she did rant and shout, what I hate about her is her inventiveness as to other peoples conversations that she listens in on and her vindictive sneakiness in running to people to tell tales and sometimes lies to them,particularly about Arron.

Add to that,her cowardly behaviour in expecting others to own up to their faults they have but then her keeping quiet as to that it was her who went running to Benedict and gave a totally false report of what Arron had said, just to cause mischief.

There are other ways of being really dangerous and nasty to and about others without ranting and raising your voice to them. Deana knows those ways very well too 'and' does them regularly.

[Amy Jade]

When Deana spoke up in the bedroom Arron totally overreacted, she didn't attack him at all and she said very calmly and respectfully that sometimes his banter hurts and he flew into a rage - I believe if somebody like Luke S, Conor or even Scott had said the same his reaction would have been very different.

[Vanessa]

When Deana spoke up in the bedroom Arron totally overreacted, she didn't attack him at all and she said very calmly and respectfully that sometimes his banter hurts and he flew into a rage - I believe if somebody like Luke S, Conor or even Scott had said the same his reaction would have been very different.

Arron and Becky were having a conversation and Deena felt the need to butt in. It was totally unnecessary. :)

[Vanessa]

I have no problem with the way Deana acts when in a dispute,I never said she did rant and shout, what I hate about her is her inventiveness as to other peoples conversations that she listens in on and her vindictive sneakiness in running to people to tell tales and sometimes lies to them,particularly about Arron.

Add to that,her cowardly behaviour in expecting others to own up to their faults they have but then her keeping quiet as to that it was her who went running to Benedict and gave a totally false report of what Arron had said, just to cause mischief.

There are other ways of being really dangerous and nasty to and about others without ranting and raising your voice to them. Deana knows those ways very well too 'and' does them regularly.

Deena really pissed me off last night. What gives her the right to interfere in other people conversations? :bored:

[Adamw92]

When Deana spoke up in the bedroom Arron totally overreacted, she didn't attack him at all and she said very calmly and respectfully that sometimes his banter hurts and he flew into a rage - I believe if somebody like Luke S, Conor or even Scott had said the same his reaction would have been very different.

Agreed and then did you notice how he went straight into the bathroom and told them what happened but conveniently left out the part where she spoke to him calmly and he skipped straight to the "don't **** with me this week Arron".

[cfromhx02]

Agreed and then did you notice how he went straight into the bathroom and told them what happened but conveniently left out the part where she spoke to him calmly and he skipped straight to the "don't **** with me this week Arron".

Yeah, he and Conor are completely biased against Deanna. He maybe not what I said earlier, but I think he is. But whatever kind of lowlife he is, I still think he's soft as s**t

[flamingGalah!]

Rachel was so pissed of because John James didn't fancy her. She expected him to fall at her feet! Sour grapes anyone? :joker:

She got so angry with John James because he didn't fancy her! :laugh:

She expected him to fall on his feet and worship her! :joker:

That's all she was interested in. The silly cow! :bored:

Sorry but all that is absolute bullsh*t!

Rachel didn't NOTHING wrong to John James AT ALL! He was the biggest hypocrite, he had a go at Sunshine for changing her name, when he himslef changed his to Achilles a few years ago! He had a go at Rachel because he didn't like the fact she mentioned that she wanted to do magazine shoots when she left the house... Yet HE did MORE than HER after leaving the house!!

She didn't fancy him, he didn't fancy Josie, but it didn't stop him from having a fauxmance with her!

By the way Rachel went back to her previous job as soon as she left the BB house & is engaged to Nathan from the same series... So she wasn't the fame hungry media ***** John James made her out to be...

[Vanessa]

Sorry but all that is absolute bullsh*t!

Rachel didn't NOTHING wrong to John James AT ALL! He was the biggest hypocrite, he had a go at Sunshine for changing her name, when he himslef changed his to Achilles a few years ago! He had a go at Rachel because he didn't like the fact she mentioned that she wanted to do magazine shoots when she left the house... Yet HE did MORE than HER after leaving the house!!

She didn't fancy him, he didn't fancy Josie, but it didn't stop him from having a fauxmance with her!

By the way Rachel went back to her previous job as soon as she left the BB house & is engaged to Nathan from the same series... So she wasn't the fame hungry media ***** John James made her out to be...

Sorry, i just don't agree with you here. We'll have to agree to disagree.

[flamingGalah!]

Sorry, i just don't agree with you here. We'll have to agree to disagree.

How can you not agree with facts that I have just stated?? That wasn't my opinion that I just posted! :joker:

[Ellen]

Deana butted in on a conversation that was nothing to do with her, he was having a lighhearted chat with Becky when Deana put her two penneth worth in. If you are going to butt into someone else's chat with something negative then dont expect a positive reaction.
When she said dont f... with me this week she already knew she was going to try & cause trouble with Luke S & Arron, she was just waiting for a oppotunity to do it.

[Vanessa]

How can you not agree with facts that I have just stated?? That wasn't my opinion that I just posted! :joker:

I just don't like Rachel and i never will. ;)

[Vanessa]

Deana butted in on a conversation that was nothing to do with her, he was having a lighhearted chat with Becky when Deana put her two penneth worth in. If you are going to butt into someone else's chat with something negative then dont expect a positive reaction.
When she said dont f... with me this week she already knew she was going to try & cause trouble with Luke S & Arron, she was just waiting for a oppotunity to do it.

Exactly. It's not the first time she tried to turn people against Arron. :suspect:

[Livia]

Isn't it crazy how people can be blinded to the faults of an immature, deeply flawed and unlikeable personality... when it comes with a pretty face. One day Arron isn't going to have his looks working for him, and currently that's the one and only thing he has to offer. I wonder how he'll cope with life?

[Vanessa]

Isn't it crazy how people can be blinded to the faults of an immature, deeply flawed and unlikeable personality... when it comes with a pretty face. One day Arron isn't going to have his looks working for him, and currently that's the one and only thing he has to offer. I wonder how he'll cope with life?

I think he's a lot more than a pretty face. He's fun and doesn't back down from an argument. He stands his ground. But that's just my opinion as a fan. :)

[JamesBond]

He's just a boy not a man, chances are he will either grow up or get his ass kicked by someone's man. We all know he lifts the baby weights in the gym.

[cfromhx02]

Exactly. It's not the first time she tried to turn people against Arron. :suspect:

Stop making excuses for him.

The above may be true, but it's probably because she is fighting back against how he treats her.

Whatever is behind it, there is no excuse for how aggressively Arron speaks to her and I'm almost cert6ain it's just because he wasn't able to stand up to boys who were asking to fight him at school age and then he's later he's taking it out on women.

[Cynical]

I think he's a lot more than a pretty face. He's fun and doesn't back down from an argument. He stands his ground. But that's just my opinion as a fan. :)


You've got to be on a wind up? Surely?

[Vanessa]

You'be gotta be on a wind up? Surely?

I'm an Arron fan. He has his own fan club. Look it up! ;)

[Vanessa]

Stop making excuses for him.

The above may be true, but it's probably because she is fighting back against how he treats her.

Whatever is behind it, there is no excuse for how aggressively Arron speaks to her and I'm almost cert6ain it's just because he wasn't able to stand up to boys who were asking to fight him at school age and then he's later he's taking it out on women.

She's just as aggressive to him.

[Livia]

I think he's a lot more than a pretty face. He's fun and doesn't back down from an argument. He stands his ground. But that's just my opinion as a fan. :)

He should stick that on his CV for when his looks go, see how many interviews it gets him.

[smeagol]

i'm just hoping deana stays and arron the other 2 stooges cross the line even more. they are so dumb so it will kick of at some point then hopefully people will see them for what they are, which is immature nasty little bullies .

[joeysteele]

When Deana spoke up in the bedroom Arron totally overreacted, she didn't attack him at all and she said very calmly and respectfully that sometimes his banter hurts and he flew into a rage - I believe if somebody like Luke S, Conor or even Scott had said the same his reaction would have been very different.

He didn't overreact in the usual sense, he makes no secret of the fact he dilikes Deana intensely, she also dislikes him like even more than he dislikes her.
She grates on him and he grates on her, why though does she always appear where he is having conversations and without being invited have to stick her nose into them as last night with his and Becky's conversation.

He seems to try to keep out of her way, yeas griping about her to others but 'no lies' about her, she pushes to be where he is and then uses any little thing she can against him usually blowing it out of all proportion.

They cannot stand each other so whenever one speaks to the other there is likely to be a clash, she knows she can wind him up and he knows she is only looking for anything she can twist and cause bother for him.

She should keep away from him and him likewise her,she should also though keep her interfering and vindictive nose out of his conversations with other housemates.

[Vanessa]

He didn't overreact in the usual sense, he makes no secret of the fact he dilikes Deana intensely, she also dislikes him like even more than he dislikes her.
She grates on him and he grates on her, why though does she always appear where he is having conversations and without being invited have to stick her nose into them as last night with his and Becky's conversation.

He seems to try to keep out of her way, yeas griping about her to others but 'no lies' about her, she pushes to be where he is and then uses any little thing she can against him usually blowing it out of all proportion.

They cannot stand each other so whenever one speaks to the other there is likely to be a clash, she knows she can wind him up and he knows she is only looking for anything she can twist and cause bother for him.

She should keep away from him and him likewise her,she should also though keep her interfering and vindictive nose out of his conversations with other housemates.

They need to avoid each other. They seem to really piss each other off. They remind me of last year Michael and Denise! :joker:

[joeysteele]

I think he's a lot more than a pretty face. He's fun and doesn't back down from an argument. He stands his ground. But that's just my opinion as a fan. :)

I couldn't care ifg he has pretty face, I know a fair few females who don't think he particularly has, I defend him because at least he is doing something in there and really is not that offensive.

He has been on the receiving end of Deana's poison since day 5, he has had Lydia plotting his downfall too, odd that he doesn't,despite his pranks,have that many major issues with other housemates or them with him.

He,in my view is entertaining,maybe I am easily pleased in the view of some but he hasn't in my view done anything to warrant the hate there is for him on here,being called a bully,where, for goodness sake?
To Deana, that little Madam knows very well how to act the bully to people she doesn't like and also how to conceal it too.

Arron describes himself quite negatively, he says he loves doing pranks, he also admits he is not that intelligent, who is in there though, apparantly only one of them knew what a kilo was, how come he gets the only unintelligent tag from people as to housemates.
Very selective but I guess if you really dislike someone,as most on the forums do but thankfully not the voting public do Arron, it's easy to knock them all the time,I do it with Deana and Lydia because I see people like those 2 at Uni all the time and I make sure I say very little to them,I see the bother people like that cause for others.

[joeysteele]

They need to avoid each other. They seem to really piss each other off. They remind me of last year Michael and Denise! :joker:

Exactly, the sight of each other and the voices of each other really grates on them both, they should keep away from each other, you are right but in the main it is she who appears where he is not vice versa.

[Vanessa]

I couldn't care ifg he has pretty face, I know a fair few females who don't think he particularly has, I defend him because at least he is doing something in there and really is not that offensive.

He has been on the receiving end of Deana's poison since day 5, he has had Lydia plotting his downfall too, odd that he doesn't,despite his pranks,have that many major issues with other housemates or them with him.

He,in my view is entertaining,maybe I am easily pleased in the view of some but he hasn't in my view done anything to warrant the hate there is for him on here,being called a bully,where, for goodness sake?
To Deana, that little Madam knows very well how to act the bully to people she doesn't like and also how to conceal it too.

Arron describes himself quite negatively, he says he loves doing pranks, he also admits he is not that intelligent, who is in there though, apparantly only one of them knew what a kilo was, how come he gets the only unintelligent tag from people as to housemates.
Very selective but I guess if you really dislike someone,as most on the forums do but thankfully not the voting public do Arron, it's easy to knock them all the time,I do it with Deana and Lydia because I see people like those 2 at Uni all the time and I make sure I say very little to them,I see the bother people like that cause for others.

I couldn't agree more! Thank god the public likes Arron. This forum is so out of touch! :joker:

[Marcus.]

I couldn't agree more! Thank god the public likes Arron. This forum is so out of touch! :joker:

ermm yeah

[aman201]

but he only has a problem with deena and lydia. He gets on well with the other girls. He's never argued with them. :suspect:

victoria

[Livia]

One day he'll pick on the wrong girl.

[aman201]

That's why i like Arron. He's very straight talking and doesn't take any nonsense fro anyone. :)

thats why he shat himself when confronted by ben and adam.

[Kizzy]

Not a massive fan of Arron's but no need to slag off his family. Not nice.

It did seem a bit mean, I meant they look like ladies you wouldn't want to argue with is all.

[Vanessa]

thats why he shat himself when confronted by ben and adam.

That's your opinion. I just don't agree with it.

[Jords]

Hes a pussy thats why.

[joeysteele]

thats why he shat himself when confronted by ben and adam.

You said this same thing on another thread.
He didn't cower back when Benedict confronted him and Benedict had no need to confront him in the first place because it was Deana who gave Benedict a false report of what Arron had actually said.
Arron spoke as calmly with Benedict as Benedict did with him and stood his ground even challenging Benedict to say who had told him the wrong version.

The issue with Adam was not even a dispute, all Adam said was, was it necessary to fiddle with the lights, Arron had no intention of backing off from that ad was continuing to switch the lights off but when called and told in the diary room, the bedroom was going to be out of bounds for all housemates, he then apologised to Adam and all the other housemates for his prank.

Not backing off, just admitting he'd likely gone too far, quite a quality in a housemate really.
That is the only 2 male housemates he has had any issue with.

He has loads of issues with Deana and Lydia as they have him, Victoria was at fault totally and acted really silly and childish after she pushed him to say who he would evict, she got what she deserved from him for her childish rant and especially even moreso at the end of the week from the public too by being booted out by them

They are the only women he has had issues with, out of 'all' the women there has been in that house,all the others he gets on really well or reasonably well with as he does near all the male housemates too.

You won't like my answer simply because you don't like Arron but they are 'all' facts.

[MrWong]

and the females don't rant at him do they not.
Benedict kept calm, Arron stayed calm, often he has to shout over the women to get a word in.He is also aware that Deana never listens anyway.

As for women, he has as I said had issues with Victoria and Deana and Lydia only,oddly enough none of the other women, so out of all the women that went in it's only 3 in reality he has argued with
Lydia has done little else but rant and shout from going in for instance with both men and women.

Anyway,it's a waste of time, the inference was he takes on women and runs away from men, I have shown in my posts where he has not done that at all, he has stood his ground with both in different ways.


Are you suggesting he hasn't provoked them? They retaliate to his bullsh!t.

He kicks off when its a girl. An example is when Lydia asked where he was sitting at the table. He jumped down her throat and called her a *********g weirdo.

Same with Deana when she said that he needs to realise his pranks upset people. Straight away he started shouting and causing a scene.

Now contrast that with his reactions when Benedict confronted him about the boring comments. No shouting, no kicking off.

Like i said, he's a pussy.

[joeysteele]

Are you suggesting he hasn't provoked them? They retaliate to his bullsh!t.

He kicks off when its a girl. An example is when Lydia asked where he was sitting at the table. He jumped down her throat and called her a *********g weirdo.

Same with Deana when she said that he needs to realise his pranks upset people. Straight away he started shouting and causing a scene.

Now contrast that with his reactions when Benedict confronted him about the boring comments. No shouting, no kicking off.

Like i said, he's a pussy.

Where did I say he didn't??

I was pointing out that they push him as much as he pushes them.he doesn't like them, they don't like him, so why does Deana near appear everywhere he is and even butt in when he is talking to other housemates and not talking to her at all.

He doesn't like Deana, she doen't like him, they are like red rags to bulls as to each other, that's why she gets at him and he reacts as he does.

If you cannot understand that and have not come across people in that situation before then maybe you wil not understand why they go on as they do with each other, she is to blame as much as him.
I see it loads at Uni with people and noticed that even one of them saying morning to the other can set them off at each other.

Sometimes people just cannot stand being around certain people,Arron,Lydia and Deana are 3 people who would be better nowhere near each other, thankfully either Deana or Lydia won't be around after friday.

[smartalec2718]

Arron is a vile piece of work, he thinks the world revolves around him and that he should be able to treat people however he wants. Deana's not innocent either but Arron has been the instigator consistently since the first week.

I can't wait till Deana stays and Arron gets evicted, I feel confident that'll happen - Deana's going to stay in on Friday at least partially because of the way Arron's been treating her. I like that irony.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Arron and Becky were having a conversation and Deena felt the need to butt in. It was totally unnecessary. :)

Deana felt the need to butt in because the conversation was about something that involves her. Seeing as she's the one who is always the butt of Arron's jokes and "banter," she calmly and politely let him know it's not as harmless as he thinks it is. Nothing wrong with that.

[MrWong]

Where did I say he didn't??

I was pointing out that they push him as much as he pushes them.he doesn't like them, they don't like him, so why does Deana near appear everywhere he is and even butt in when he is talking to other housemates and not talking to her at all.

He doesn't like Deana, she doen't like him, they are like red rags to bulls as to each other, that's why she gets at him and he reacts as he does.

If you cannot understand that and have not come across people in that situation before then maybe you wil not understand why they go on as they do with each other, she is to blame as much as him.
I see it loads at Uni with people and noticed that even one of them saying morning to the other can set them off at each other.

Sometimes people just cannot stand being around certain people,Arron,Lydia and Deana are 3 people who would be better nowhere near each other, thankfully either Deana or Lydia won't be around after friday.

First of all, you're making stuff up. How could you possibly know that she follows him everywhere? Probably best we deal in facts. It's hard to debate against fairy tales.

He started all the agg, not Deana. You gloss over that fact when you say they are as bad as each other. She's reached her limit with him and has started to react back and who could blame her?

[joeysteele]

First of all, you're making stuff up. How could you possibly know that she follows him everywhere? Probably best we deal in facts. It's hard to debate against fairy tales.

He started all the agg, not Deana. You gloss over that fact when you say they are as bad as each other. She's reached her limit with him and has started to react back and who could blame her?

2 examples of many and to list them would take me likely hours.
I have to say I find you extremely rude, if you don't agree with my facts prove them wrong, if you can't then refarain from responding to my posts.

Arron is taking to another housemate about his conversations with Benedict, saying he found the conversation boring but he though Benedict was really intelligent.

As he is talking who appears but Deana, who hears the words conversation and boring and runs off to make trouble for Arron by telling Benedict he said Benedict was boring not the conversation.

Arron is talking to Becky, again in comes Deana and she then sticks her nose into the conversation again,not invited to bt either Arron or Becky and Arron made his anger known and then left the room, in fact avoiding the confrontation.

If you don't like what you hear from me,then don't read what I say,becasue you don't agree and don't like what I say though does not make me wrong.
I think it is you who is twisting facts not me also I think the fairy tales are more likely coming from you rather than me as the 2 examples above not only show just 2 of many instances where she has hung around when Arron was talking to someone else but that she behind his back carried out a false and vindictive act.

He doesn't need to do anything behind Deana's back, he tells her to her face.I think I would be doing so too if I were in his shoes and knowing the vindictive things she has done as to him since day 5.

[MrWong]

2 examples of many and to list them would take me likely hours.
I have to say I find you extremely rude, if you don't agree with my facts prove them wrong, if you can't then refarain from responding to my posts.

.

You first. You said she follows him everywhere.

How would you know?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Arron is talking to Becky, again in comes Deana and she then sticks her nose into the conversation again,not invited to bt either Arron or Becky and Arron made his anger known and then left the room, in fact avoiding the confrontation.

She had every right to "stick her nose into the conversation" because she's on the receiving end of his "banter" and "jokes."

[joeysteele]

She had every right to "stick her nose into the conversation" because she's on the receiving end of his "banter" and "jokes."

As he is hers too, it cuts both ways.However she had no right to cut in, she should have waited to be invited to do so by him or Becky. She should have minded her own business.


Mr Wong again you are wrong,I said she appears near everywhere he is, I could have listed many examples of such but sadly I think I would be totally wasting my time doing so as to you.

Read my post again, even the bit you put in bold quoting me, I did not say say followed him everywhere, I said she appeared where he was 'near' everywhere he is,'near' being the operative word. That does not mean everywhere total.

I never mind debating but prefer fair balanced debate.

[MrWong]

As he is hers too, it cuts both ways.However she had no right to cut in, she should have waited to be invited to do so by him or Becky. She should have minded her own business.


Mr Wong again you are wrong,I said she appears near everywhere he is, I could have listed many examples of such but sadly I think I would be totally wasting my time doing so as to you.

Read my post again, even the bit you put in bold quoting me, I did not say say followed him everywhere, I said she appeared where he was 'near' everywhere he is,'near' being the operative word. That does not mean everywhere total.

I never mind debating but prefer fair balanced debate.

Since we can't watch the live feed the statement is pointless.

So even if 'near' is the operative word. 40 minutes footage from 24 hours can't in anyway back that statement up.

[joeysteele]

Since we can't watch the live feed the statement is pointless.

So even if 'near' is the operative word. 40 minutes footage from 24 hours can't in anyway back that statement up.

Believe that if you must,it doesn't make you right,anyway I am done debating tit for tat like this with you, sorry but I cannot be bothered to keep wasting my time.

[MrWong]

Believe that if you must,it doesn't make you right,anyway I am done debating tit for tat like this with you, sorry but I cannot be bothered to keep wasting my time.

:suspect: You've said that once before.

....But ok :xyxwave:

[joeysteele]

:suspect: You've said that once before.

....But ok :xyxwave:

Bye to you too.

[Macie Lightfoot]

As he is hers too, it cuts both ways.However she had no right to cut in, she should have waited to be invited to do so by him or Becky. She should have minded her own business.

And what exactly has Deana done to him? She totally had a right to cut in. They're talking openly in the public while she's in the room, that makes it just as much her business as it does their own. Especially considering that the topic of conversation was relevant to her. Why would she have to wait to be invited to the conversation?

[Amy Jade]

He didn't overreact in the usual sense, he makes no secret of the fact he dilikes Deana intensely, she also dislikes him like even more than he dislikes her.
She grates on him and he grates on her, why though does she always appear where he is having conversations and without being invited have to stick her nose into them as last night with his and Becky's conversation.
I think he did overreact towards Deana, he raised his voice and swore at her just because she said sometimes his pranks hurt her feelings, a rational person does not react like that at all.

Why would Deana need permission to speak or interject? If she had have run into the room and started ranting I would see your point but Arron was open discussion, it's not like Deana had a glass up against the door.

[joeysteele]

I think he did overreact towards Deana, he raised his voice and swore at her just because she said sometimes his pranks hurt her feelings, a rational person does not react like that at all.

Why would Deana need permission to speak or interject? If she had have run into the room and started ranting I would see your point but Arron was open discussion, it's not like Deana had a glass up against the door.

If I am in a room and 2 people are talking even my family,to each other and not even looking at me, I would not say a word unless one or both said,''what do you think Joey''. I see that as simple good manners.

I do think Arron overreacted but I still think Deana should have waited to be asked rather than just stick her nose in again. Arron knows that Deana went and told lies to Benedict as to his conversation to another housemate about Benedict,he also knows she has never owned up to that.

When she is near and speaks as him with her to, it is like a red rag to a bull.

However, the Deana I saw on the highlights last night was very different, they did have some calmer chat and I have to say, I greatly admired Deana for seeking him out to tell him that he made the right decision to cut in half the cigarettes which I think he did too.
She clearly understood how he felt to have to do that since she was put on the spot in the very first night.

Look, I would love to really like Deana, I thought I really would too but she really annoys me at times and is so condescending.

I may though be wrong in my original thinking that they hate each other, maybe it goes the other way because as I say, I admired her going to him re- the cigarettes task.
She may even get my votes tomorrow after last nights highlights,I thought she was really good and fair in that instance to be fair to her.

[Vanessa]

If I am in a room and 2 people are talking even my family,to each other and not even looking at me, I would not say a word unless one or both said,''what do you think Joey''. I see that as simple good manners.

I do think Arron overreacted but I still think Deana should have waited to be asked rather than just stick her nose in again. Arron knows that Deana went and told lies to Benedict as to his conversation to another housemate about Benedict,he also knows she has never owned up to that.

When she is near and speaks as him with her to, it is like a red rag to a bull.

However, the Deana I saw on the highlights last night was very different, they did have some calmer chat and I have to say, I greatly admired Deana for seeking him out to tell him that he made the right decision to cut in half the cigarettes which I think he did too.
She clearly understood how he felt to have to do that since she was put on the spot in the very first night.

Look, I would love to really like Deana, I thought I really would too but she really annoys me at times and is so condescending.

I may though be wrong in my original thinking that they hate each other, maybe it goes the other way because as I say, I admired her going to him re- the cigarettes task.
She may even get my votes tomorrow after last nights highlights,I thought she was really good and fair in that instance to be fair to her.

I want to see Deana and Arron sort things out. Maybe they could be friends if they talked things through! :)

[joeysteele]

I want to see Deana and Arron sort things out. Maybe they could be friends if they talked things through! :)

I started thinking that after last nights highlights, she was the only one,(we saw anyway), who sought him out and said he had made the right decision, I think she genuinely admired him for doing that, she thought he may likely put his friends in the house over the task for the shopping budget.

As I said above, she knows what it was like to be put on the spot as to a task, after her first night nominations task.

[Vanessa]

I started thinking that after last nights highlights, she was the only one,(we saw anyway), who sought him out and said he had made the right decision, I think she genuinely admired him for doing that, she thought he may likely put his friends in the house over the task for the shopping budget.

As I said above, she knows what it was like to be put on the spot as to a task, after her first night nominations task.

They remind me so much of Michael and Denise! :hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

They remind me so much of Michael and Denise! :hugesmile:

Yes, Denise just needed to start talking to anyone and he was mumbling and cursing her walking off elsewhere.

It happens, sometimes 2 people really cannot bear being anywhere near each other. However,I have a few doubts it is all hate now between them after last nights programme, she was really re-asssuring to him as to the cigarettes task and I also believe she was totally genuine.

So that demonstration of showing she cared even a bit as to how he was feeling at doing that with the cigarettes has made me think as to her.

[Vanessa]

Yes, Denise just needed to start talking to anyone and he was mumbling and cursing her walking off elsewhere.

It happens, sometimes 2 people really cannot bear being anywhere near each other. However,I have a few doubts it is all hate now between them after last nights programme, she was really re-asssuring to him as to the cigarettes task and I also believe she was totally genuine.

So that demonstaration of showin she cared even a bit as to how he was feeling at doing that with the cigarettes has made me think as to her.

I really hope she was genuine. Arron can be a bit too trusting sometimes. :(

[smeagol]

i want deana to wind him up. he is easily wound up. she might be going nows the time make him say and do something bad lol - i would

[Vanessa]

i want deana to wind him up. he is easily wound up. she might be going nows the time make him say and do something bad lol - i would

I want Deena and Arron to sort things out. No more arguments. :)

[smeagol]

I want Deena and Arron to sort things out. No more arguments. :)

nah wind him up is more fun :dance: