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Callum
27-06-2012, 06:59 PM
I personally think most of this hate is justified. What he said was completely disgusting and he should be removed from the house when housemates in previous seasons have been removed for much less worse offenses. It's double standards. I do think that people who are calling the police to report Conor are going over the top, though. No problem with people complaining on Ofcom or to Channel 5 but I don't think anyone should be encouraging the police to get involved.

What do you think?

Marcus.
27-06-2012, 07:00 PM
why did he do that

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:01 PM
Justified and to the people that think otherwise need to seriously get out of BB's arse imo.:hugesmile:

And I will probably get into more trouble for that comment than Conor has by BB.:joker:

Redway
27-06-2012, 07:07 PM
It's getting a bit ridiculous now. Conor has been given a warning and whilst what he said was horrible - with no applicable justification for it - he's been told. If he does it again, let him sod off to the next reality show an' all.

I don't see why people can't just leave it at that and discuss the actual show in its present form.

cfromhx02
27-06-2012, 07:11 PM
Callum you were running the risk there of those who just want to have anyone on for entertainment overwhelming the vote in a negative way.But well done for being so open.

Vicky.
27-06-2012, 07:11 PM
Tricky one. I think he was in the wrong and that BB should have done more than give him a slap on the wrist...but I also think those saying things like 'omgz he threatened to rape her' and that are silly and very OTT. And especially those ringing the police.

Mrluvaluva
27-06-2012, 07:11 PM
I do think that it is justified, and I would never condone what he has said, especially as he is in a televised situation. People will make their own opinions, and I respect that. However, I do think some people are taking some things out of context and are exaggerating his actions. If people wish to switch off, or petition, that is their prerogative. Contacting the police etc is a waste of manpower, in my opinion, when more important things need to be addressed.

People can draw their own conclusions, and act in whatever way they deem fit, but some people seem to keep re-iterating their views over and over, when there is no need. Everyone should respect each others views.

joeysteele
27-06-2012, 07:13 PM
Both, the criticism of him and the issue itself is totally justified to be mad about, but in my view the response to BB in general because of this one issue is the bit that's over the top.

Callum
27-06-2012, 07:14 PM
Also just seen on DS that some forum members are contacting the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence Against Women Charities. Not sure what to make on that, I personally would draw the line at Ofcom. I don't see what good getting all these outside parties involved will achieve.

Vicky.
27-06-2012, 07:17 PM
Also just seen on DS that some forum members are contacting the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence Against Women Charities. Not sure what to make on that, I personally would draw the line at Ofcom. I don't see what good getting all these outside parties involved will achieve.

Now that seems very OTT to me too. I would say let those kinds of organisations deal with real domestic abuse cases...not some off the cuff remark by someone on TV. There has been no violence or anything, and to waste their time with things like this (that will be being monitored anyway by BB...I doubt it would get to the stage where he actually punched her and IF it did he would swiftly be removed and arrested) seems stupid :S

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:18 PM
Tricky one. I think he was in the wrong and that BB should have done more than give him a slap on the wrist...but I also think those saying things like 'omgz he threatened to rape her' and that are silly and very OTT. And especially those ringing the police.

I didn't say that I was ringing The Police, im just saying that they would be involved if it happened on the outside world which they would be.

billy123
27-06-2012, 07:19 PM
Also just seen on DS that some forum members are contacting the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence Against Women Charities. Not sure what to make on that, I personally would draw the line at Ofcom. I don't see what good getting all these outside parties involved will achieve.They are just trolls trying to get a reaction out of other forum users.
Theres a few on here trying the same thing its pretty boring.

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:21 PM
Tbf if these are the things that enter his head, whoes to say he hasn't already done these stuff but has never been convicted?

He probably hasn't but it is worrying that that's the first thing to enter his head when he talks about Deana.

Vicky.
27-06-2012, 07:21 PM
I didn't say that I was ringing The Police, im just saying that they would be involved if it happened on the outside world which they would be.

No but some people have actually rang the police over it, they are who I meant :p

I also dont think the police would be involved if it happened on the outside either..as it was said between a group of friends, who are unlikely to report each other.

Sophiee
27-06-2012, 07:21 PM
much too over the top.

Josy
27-06-2012, 07:21 PM
The backlash is far too OTT imo, yes he was very wrong to say what he did but it in no way makes him a rapist, racist and whatever else he is being called and the complaints to ofcom, police, and now the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence charities is just ridiculous, those places have a lot more serious things to deal with than some nasty words someone said on BB tbh.

King Gizzard
27-06-2012, 07:22 PM
From an outside view very OTT

Fair enough he should probably have been thrown out or severly cautioned on screen about it there and then, but he hasn't, and they can't just get rid of him out of the blue now so..move on

I doubt he'd do it anyway. In fact I'm sure

Heat of the moment

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:22 PM
No but some people have actually rang the police over it, they are who I meant :p

Oh, wow people have actually done it.:laugh3:

Vicky.
27-06-2012, 07:24 PM
Oh, wow people have actually done it.:laugh3:

http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204685

Mrluvaluva
27-06-2012, 07:24 PM
Tbf if these are the things that enter his head, whoes to say he hasn't already done these stuff but has never been convicted?

He probably hasn't but it is worrying that that's the first thing to enter his head when he talks about Deana.

That's just speculation again. You can't judge a persons past without facts. That just makes no sense to me.

Livia
27-06-2012, 07:24 PM
The backlash was justified. BB handled it badly. He should have been asked to apologise properly to Deana, but he mumbled an apology to BB and that seems to be it. You can't blame people for being angry, it was a horrible thing to watch. However... anyone who called the police about it should be done for wasting police time.

MTVN
27-06-2012, 07:26 PM
Also just seen on DS that some forum members are contacting the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence Against Women Charities.

:joker:

smeagol
27-06-2012, 07:27 PM
its 100% justfied to want him out some of the other stuff is ott

i think we should just stop alll the conor threads and try to have some fun. its the same arguments now on all. he will get what he deserves at some point.
most normal people want him out and have said what needs to be said me included
some weirdos want his babies and want him to date their sister and think what he said is fine. well just gotta accept the world is wacked and move on lol

chuff me dizzy
27-06-2012, 07:27 PM
Totally,completely to the point of absolutely bloody ridiculous ,esp the people who contacted Ofcom ,adn even more so the timewasters with nothing better to do that waste police time,by ringing them over a TV GAME SHOW ,they really need to get a life

Livia
27-06-2012, 07:28 PM
Also just seen on DS that some forum members are contacting the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence Against Women Charities. Not sure what to make on that, I personally would draw the line at Ofcom. I don't see what good getting all these outside parties involved will achieve.

I think those organisations have bigger fish to fry.

Redway
27-06-2012, 07:29 PM
I sure hope the people who contacted the police aren't on this forum, otherwise I have a few members to add to my ignore list.

Reporting the incident to the police will not do anything to solve the already resolved issue in a house constantly monitored by people. Whilst Conor should have definitely had the decency to apologise to Deana properly, this is Conor we're talking about. I hope nobody on here was seriously expecting him to get on his knees and buy a pack of chocolates and roses for her...

Redway
27-06-2012, 07:30 PM
:joker:

Oh, we're a good country mile past funny at this stage. That's actually very worrying...

Petershaw1984
27-06-2012, 07:32 PM
Justified

Petershaw1984
27-06-2012, 07:32 PM
The guy deserves it and more

jas1234
27-06-2012, 07:34 PM
I personally think most of this hate is justified. What he said was completely disgusting and he should be removed from the house when housemates in previous seasons have been removed for much less worse offenses. It's double standards. I do think that people who are calling the police to report Conor are going over the top, though. No problem with people complaining on Ofcom or to Channel 5 but I don't think anyone should be encouraging the police to get involved.

What do you think?

police to get involved is a good point if he was to say that out here he would be in a lot more trouble than a pat on the wrist from his big brother

Indy
27-06-2012, 07:37 PM
As I mentioned in one of the other threads about it - this is as much a reaction to how BB handled the issues with Jay last time as it is about how they're handling Conor. If people hadn't already watched Jay get a walk for weeks on end for behavior that should not have been tolerated (let alone swept under the BB rug), they might have a little more faith in Conor having recieved a legitimate talking to in the DR. But, having seen how it was handled last season, they've given the audience no reason to trust that they are honestly interested in anyone's safety over ratings.

Roy Mars III
27-06-2012, 07:37 PM
probably should have been removed at the time, but it's gone on for too long and people should drop it

Brother Leon
27-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Over The Top now.

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:42 PM
probably should have been removed at the time, but it's gone on for too long and people should drop it

It will be dropped if they remove him.

jas1234
27-06-2012, 07:42 PM
Over The Top now.

over the top

are you sick he needs to punished

Roy Mars III
27-06-2012, 07:43 PM
It will be dropped if they remove him.

it would be silly to remove him now for something that happened two days ago

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:44 PM
over the top

are you sick he needs to punished

Finally a 2012 member that isn't conviently defending Conor.

Anyway welcome to TIBB, and I agree with what your saying, although Brother Leon I hope is winding up.

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 07:45 PM
it would be silly to remove him now for something that happened two days ago

I don't care he needs to go ASAP.

Brother Leon
27-06-2012, 07:45 PM
over the top

are you sick he needs to punished

He received a final warning and according to the forum was forced to apologise. That is that. Time to get over it now.

Callum
27-06-2012, 07:54 PM
To be fair the fact that it's still the main talking point 2 days on just shows that it's not going to go away like they want it to. Ofcom has received over 1000 complaints and the BB forums are full of posts and threads regarding Conor, as well as the official Facebook page being flooded with comments wanting Conor removed.

If they were to remove him from the house now, I doubt you would see many people complaining. It would have been better had he been taken out straight after it had happened but it's clearly still on a lot of people's minds 2 days on and this could roll on and on all series. It gives the show a bad reputation, too.

chuff me dizzy
27-06-2012, 07:57 PM
The backlash is far too OTT imo, yes he was very wrong to say what he did but it in no way makes him a rapist, racist and whatever else he is being called and the complaints to ofcom, police, and now the Domestic Abuse and Anti-Violence charities is just ridiculous, those places have a lot more serious things to deal with than some nasty words someone said on BB tbh.

Tell me you are joking ? Domestic Abuse charity ???????????? :shocked::shocked: Its just getting dafter by the second :crazy:

Mrluvaluva
27-06-2012, 07:58 PM
police to get involved is a good point if he was to say that out here he would be in a lot more trouble than a pat on the wrist from his big brother

It would actually most probably be harder to prove in normal everyday life as it would be one persons word against the others, most probably. What he said has been recorded and televised, so the evidence is there. That's why people get arrested for posting hateful stuff on Facebook/Twitter because there is no doubt in what they have actually stated. I am sure the police can draw their own conclusions from the footage once it was brought to their attention.

I recall police being called by members of the public over fight night in BB5 when the live feed was taken down briefly, and they were getting physical in there. Arrests do not come to mind.

Marcus.
27-06-2012, 07:58 PM
he got to go

chuff me dizzy
27-06-2012, 08:00 PM
To be fair the fact that it's still the main talking point 2 days on just shows that it's not going to go away like they want it to. Ofcom has received over 1000 complaints and the BB forums are full of posts and threads regarding Conor, as well as the official Facebook page being flooded with comments wanting Conor removed.

If they were to remove him from the house now, I doubt you would see many people complaining. It would have been better had he been taken out straight after it had happened but it's clearly still on a lot of people's minds 2 days on and this could roll on and on all series. It gives the show a bad reputation, too.

Why is it the main talking point? because loonies keep posting stupid polls,on forums ,when in all honesty no one gives a flying one about what has happened between 2 adults ,they have never met or likely to met on a tv game show, the people doing the phone calls,emaills are as big as attention seekers as the fools who think a poll on a forum is going to change the world, they need to get out more

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 08:01 PM
Chuff the ratings dropped by 100,000 viewers for Conor's comments, Ch5 can't really afford for what's already a small audience to get any smaller.

Mrluvaluva
27-06-2012, 08:05 PM
Chuff the ratings dropped by 100,000 viewers for Conor's comments, Ch5 can't really afford for what's already a small audience to get any smaller.

Is there an article on this?

Adamw92
27-06-2012, 08:06 PM
Justified.

Nothing is gonna be done about it though so I guess it doesn't really matter if it is justified or not.

Callum
27-06-2012, 08:08 PM
Why is it the main talking point? because loonies keep posting stupid polls,on forums ,when in all honesty no one gives a flying one about what has happened between 2 adults ,they have never met or likely to met on a tv game show, the people doing the phone calls,emaills are as big as attention seekers as the fools who think a poll on a forum is going to change the world, they need to get out more

Why are you making this personal for and using insults? It is the main talking point because a lot of people were angered by Conor's rant. I never said that this poll was going to change the world or make a difference to the show, I just wanted to know what people made of this backlash. Oh and evidently people do "give a flying one" otherwise Ofcom wouldn't have received 1000 complaints. Just because you hate Deana and do not think she was being bullied doesn't mean that everyone feels the same as you.

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 08:11 PM
Is there an article on this?

Alright this is the last time I will post about on this section for awhile.:hugesmile:

Btw that was not aimed at you but at others on another thread.

Anyway someone said it on DS but I can't remember what thread it was on again now.

Redway
27-06-2012, 08:11 PM
over the top

are you sick he needs to punished

If calling the police and abuse helplines isn't going over the top, I really don't know what is. Come on. Even you should be able to admit that some of the actions that have been carried out over the past few days have been unnecessary and sad.

Jordan.
27-06-2012, 08:16 PM
Bored of hearing about it now.

Munchkins
27-06-2012, 08:19 PM
I think it was totally justified, he was disgusting and vulgar

daniel-lewis-1985
27-06-2012, 08:20 PM
I personally think most of this hate is justified. What he said was completely disgusting and he should be removed from the house when housemates in previous seasons have been removed for much less worse offenses. It's double standards. I do think that people who are calling the police to report Conor are going over the top, though. No problem with people complaining on Ofcom or to Channel 5 but I don't think anyone should be encouraging the police to get involved.

What do you think?

Yeah, you said this like 15 times already.

Anyone else getting sick of the same old threads?

Redway
27-06-2012, 08:24 PM
Why is it the main talking point? because loonies keep posting stupid polls,on forums ,when in all honesty no one gives a flying one about what has happened between 2 adults ,they have never met or likely to met on a tv game show, the people doing the phone calls,emaills are as big as attention seekers as the fools who think a poll on a forum is going to change the world, they need to get out more

Your post is, as usual, banging on with the same offensive, ill thought-out nonsense that your posts tend to specialise in.

It is not a fact that no one cares about what happened between two adults - in fact, quite the opposite. Are you saying that 1000 people are so insignificant and negligible they may be dismissed as 'no one'? Is that what you're saying? You also have to remember that loads of other people were pissed off at Conor's actions but didn't see the need to complain about it, which is fine.

Throughout your ludicrous run on here, credit to you, you've expressed your opinions well (even if people don't agree with them) and that's great - but that's exactly what these people are doing. What makes you think you're so special that it's all right for you but not all right for them?

Mrluvaluva
27-06-2012, 08:25 PM
Alright this is the last time I will post about on this section for awhile.:hugesmile:

Btw that was not aimed at you but at others on another thread.

Anyway someone said it on DS but I can't remember what thread it was on again now.

It would have been interesting to see. If viewing figures have been lost, it does not necessarily mean that they have over Conor's actions. Viewing figures fluctuate all the time anyhow. Ideas can be formed, but not always the correct conclusions can be made.

Redway
27-06-2012, 08:25 PM
Yeah, you said this like 15 times already.

Anyone else getting sick of the same old threads?

Well, if the same questions keep arising, then answers will be made, even from the same posters.

Callum
27-06-2012, 08:26 PM
Anyone else getting sick of the same old threads?

Nobody's forcing you to read them though, are they?

Naturally, people are going to be angered by Conor's behavior and have the right to post about it if they so wish. It's a Big Brother forum, after all and at least I'm contributing to keeping the forum active.

daniel-lewis-1985
27-06-2012, 08:26 PM
Nobody's forcing you to read them though, are they?

Naturally, people are going to be angered by Conor's behavior and have the right to post about it if they so wish. It's a Big Brother forum, after all and at least I'm contributing to keeping the forum active.

Yes with your constant rambling and negativity.

chuff me dizzy
27-06-2012, 08:29 PM
Yeah, you said this like 15 times already.

Anyone else getting sick of the same old threads?

Yes Im not posting in any more of them

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 08:29 PM
Yes with your constant rambling and negativity.

Alright just one more time.:hugesmile:

It's better to have faults with the show than everything is so great and all positivity across the Forums without anyone allowed to answer back would make it boring.

Redway
27-06-2012, 08:33 PM
Yes with your constant rambling and negativity.

How about you stop telling other posters what to do? From what I've seen, your ludicrous run on here has consisted of nonsense where you throw your dollies out of the pram because not everyone shares the same positive views as you.

I wouldn't expect someone who's old enough to join a forum and watch the show to be so immature. Stop acting like a 5-year-old.

Callum
27-06-2012, 08:34 PM
Yes with your constant rambling and negativity.

I don't think that's fair at all. I've really enjoyed this series so far and despite the Conor incident I still think it has the potential to be looked back upon as a great series. It's just that I, along with thousands of others want Conor to be removed for his actions. I also know that he likely will not be and I'll have to learn to reluctantly accept that but I won't give up on the show and I'm also allowed the right to express my anger at Conor not being removed.

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 08:37 PM
EXCUSE ME? Who do you think you talking to ? is that a personal attack by any chance

Tbf i've had loads of personal attacks today just for posting an opinion so I don't see why you shouldn't for dictating where people should post, the same goes for Daniel Lewis aswell.

Anyway this really will be the last time I post on this section today, I hope.:hugesmile:

Callum
27-06-2012, 08:38 PM
EXCUSE ME? Who do you think you talking to ? is that a personal attack by any chance

You're hardly one to lecture others about personal attacks, chuff. You personally attacked me and everyone who had complained in your previous post so I think you should get off your high horse about "personal attacks".

Jords
27-06-2012, 08:39 PM
Justified but gotta get over it.. more peeved at the nominations unjust.

chuff me dizzy
27-06-2012, 08:41 PM
Tbf i've had loads of personal attacks today just for posting an opinion so I don't see why you shouldn't for dictating where people should post, the same goes for Daniel Lewis aswell.

Anyway this really will be the last time I post on this section today, I hope.:hugesmile:

Press the red triangle and report them ,thats what Ive done

Mystic Mock
27-06-2012, 08:44 PM
Press the red triangle and report them ,thats what Ive done

I don't see the point tbh as it's just a heated debate at the moment, I only really report people when they insult me away from debates.

Redway
27-06-2012, 08:44 PM
Press the red triangle and report them ,thats what Ive done

Oh, I'm pissing my pants now.

Reporting me will not do anything to solve your issues with not being able to accept other people's views. If you were insulted, report them, but if that's aimed at me, yeah, I don't care, seeing as I didn't actually insult you.

daniel-lewis-1985
27-06-2012, 08:54 PM
Oh, I'm pissing my pants now.

Reporting me will not do anything to solve your issues with not being able to accept other people's views. If you were insulted, report them, but if that's aimed at me, yeah, I don't care, seeing as I didn't actually insult you.

You insulted me though so i pressed red button :)

YAY!

Redway
27-06-2012, 09:02 PM
You insulted me though so i pressed red button :)

YAY!

One of the mods has had a thorough look at this thread and deleted quite a number of posts, so if my post to you was insulting it would have been deleted for starters. :)

fruit_cake
28-06-2012, 09:01 AM
I think the backlash is justified but C5 aren't going to do anything so we need to move on imo

Vanessa
28-06-2012, 09:03 AM
There are way too many threads about Connor. Isn't one enough? :bored:

MrWong
28-06-2012, 09:09 AM
Yeah, you said this like 15 times already.

Anyone else getting sick of the same old threads?

Well it's not like the forum is over-run with interesting threads.

I do wonder though about posters who enter threads they are supposedly sick of.

arista
28-06-2012, 09:11 AM
Tricky one. I think he was in the wrong and that BB should have done more than give him a slap on the wrist...but I also think those saying things like 'omgz he threatened to rape her' and that are silly and very OTT. And especially those ringing the police.


Yes they are Sad

Me. I Am Salman
28-06-2012, 09:23 AM
Justified.
Although the furthest I'd go is complain to ofcom.
The sheer rudeness from some people in here :bored: It's a forum we're allowed to express how we feel.

Vanessa
28-06-2012, 09:26 AM
Justified.
Although the furthest I'd go is complain to ofcom.
The sheer rudeness from some people in here :bored: It's a forum we're allowed to express how we feel.

:worship::worship::worship:

Callum
28-06-2012, 11:11 AM
There are way too many threads about Connor. Isn't one enough? :bored:

Nobody's forcing you to read them though are they? :bored:

Vanessa
28-06-2012, 11:12 AM
Nobody's forcing you to read them though are they? :bored:

I just don't understand why we need so many threads about the same argument. :shrug:

Kate!
28-06-2012, 11:15 AM
100% justified, and we've all been able to air our views, and vent on here. But calling the police and involving DV agencies is beyond the pale.

It's been shown on tv, if those agencies thought they needed to get involved they would do so all by themselves. :nono: Crazy!

The show's moved on now, let's move on with it.

Vanessa
28-06-2012, 11:16 AM
100% justified, and we've all been able to air our views, and vent on here. But calling the police and involving DV agencies is beyond the pale.

It's been shown on tv, if those agencies thought they needed to get involved they would do so all by themselves. :nono: Crazy!

I know. It's gone way over the top!

Toxic
28-06-2012, 11:51 AM
Completely jusitifed, what he said was awful and people have been kicked out for doing stuff nowhere near as bad.