What did you think of Conor's "light slaps" and hand around Scott's throat?

[*mazedsalv**]

Just wondering what people thought. DS seem to think it was aggressive. Normally I would say "Oh, it was just playful" but with Conor, I just don't know. He tried to seem cheerful, but I saw hints of maliciousness. And you could tell Scott was very uncomfortable?

What did you think?

[Cherie]

Totally, it was a message from Conor to Scott, hopefully when sober Scott will carry through and nominate Conor...

[emmetmcl]

People really are looking for reasons to hate him now.

How was that agressive? He was just being sound to him.

[Yayita]

It was awefull, I felt really uncomfortable with the slaps and the holding his neck and face. Over the line! Scott was not happy about it neither.

[Josy]

He was only having a laugh.

[karezza]

It was assault. If it happened in the workplace the lowlife thug would be sacked.

[Locke.]

Conor was sending a well deserved message.

[*mazedsalv**]

People really are looking for reasons to hate him now.

How was that agressive? He was just being sound to him.

I don't need additional reasons, I have many to dislike him. He overheard Scott moaning about him, so he went over there and tried to be cheerful when doing it, but it was come across as "I'm the boss, and your not going to nominate me, okay?". Scott didn't like it at all, neither did Deana.

It was his eyes. That's all it was. But I'm not sure. We will see, he didn't seem to like it that someone argued back with him.

[MTVN]

I think people are just desperate to interpret anything Conor does as aggressive

[joeysteele]

I didn't see it as anything malicious, Scott didn't seem to mind,he seemed a bit surprised but actually seemed to more enjoy the attention than not.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

should have been ejected

[Jords]

It was clearly trying to show intimidation by relieving his anger by belittling Scott. Im surprised it didnt get more recognition but I wasnt gonna cause a ruckus about it I already know what hes like.

Not shocked his fans didnt see anything in it.

[Josy]

It was assault. If it happened in the workplace the lowlife thug would be sacked.

:bored:

[Mystic Mock]

Did Scott get the warning instead?

[Indy]

He was marking his territory. I suppose Scott should be thankful he didn't do it the "natural" way instead.

[*mazedsalv**]

Also BB missed out that yesterday he got ANOTHER warning before the eviction. Surely, there's something not right? Lydia says she wants him out next. Deana despises him (with good reason) and now Scott.

Now the question is, why did BB not show why he was punished? What was he punished for?

[emmetmcl]

It was assault. If it happened in the workplace the lowlife thug would be sacked.

I can't tell, are you actually being serious here?

[Brother Leon]

Need to tell my uncle to stop being so aggressive towards me if D.S are anything to go by :laugh:

People do the light slap/neck squeeze sort of thing all the time to their friends or family members from what I know. I would of been tempted to do alot worse to that toerag the way he was acting tbh.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I thought it was a joke, but according to forums Conor only has to smile and he has killed 2 kittens

[Me. I Am Salman]

It did seem like he was trying to intimidate Scott as just a second ago he was furious.

[*mazedsalv**]

Need to tell my uncle to stop being so aggressive towards me if D.S are anything to go by :laugh:

People do the light slap/neck squeeze sort of thing all the time to their friends or family members from what I know. I would of been tempted to do alot worse to that toerag the way he was acting tbh.

Of course, friends and family members. If I had known someone only 4 weeks, I'd be uncomfortable them doing that to me.

[Rawrbear]

I Hate Conor...But i would not say it was aggressive, I don't think Scott was comfortable with it. But Conor was not hurting him.. probably just annoying him.

[MTVN]

Of course, friends and family members. If I had known someone only 4 weeks, I'd be uncomfortable them doing that to me.

Spending 24/7 in just their and only a few other peoples company though, you're probably gonna be quite comfortable around them I imagine. I think he was just trying to show Scott that he wasn't really as pissed off with him as he might have come across

[emmetmcl]

Of course, friends and family members. If I had known someone only 4 weeks, I'd be uncomfortable them doing that to me.

There is a difference between knowing someone for 4 weeks, and knowing someone for 672 hours or so, if you know what I mean.

[Kate!]

I found it uncomfortable but to be honest, how I interpret it is irrelevant, we are all going to have differing opinions but the only persons that truly counts is Scott's and how it made him feel. BB have a duty to speak with Scott and deal with Conor accordingly.

I'd kick him out on the spot though, its the third time now and he's already had a formal warning as confirmed by Emma Willis on BOTS. He should be gone by morning. But they won't do it.

[InOne]

He was marking his target so the rest of the house know who to vote next week.

[erinp5]

I posted this after the hl show tonight

Just watched the HL show and Conor tried to be playful with Scott after the noms break announcement, but you dont't need to be a psychologist to know that Conor was angry and showing Scott who was "Boss" with the little "friendly" slap

[Rawrbear]

He was marking his target so the rest of the house know who to vote next week.

I bet Scott does get a few votes thrown his way from Conor and the gang due to the Table.

[*mazedsalv**]

There is a difference between knowing someone for 4 weeks, and knowing someone for 672 hours or so, if you know what I mean.

Yeah I get you. I just posted this because of what was said on DS and because it followed a row. I get a bit uncomfortable when old friends of mine do that sort of stuff because I like a bit of space, they only do when they are drunk to piss me off. I'm just kind of like "don't touch my face or slap it". That's just me.

[Scream]

Think that's quite pathetic. It's hardly assult, even if he was trying to be intimidating.

[Jords]

Also BB missed out that yesterday he got ANOTHER warning before the eviction. Surely, there's something not right? Lydia says she wants him out next. Deana despises him (with good reason) and now Scott.

Now the question is, why did BB not show why he was punished? What was he punished for?

Im interested too and something like this shouldnt be left out, they should try to paint him in a decent light if hes a twat, its not right at all.

[*mazedsalv**]

Think that's quite pathetic. It's hardly assult, even if he was trying to be intimidating.

I didn't say it was assault, I said it felt uncomfortable to watch because it seemed Scott seemed a bit uncomfortable.

[Me. I Am Salman]

He was only having a laugh.

When just a few seconds ago he was full of rage? You could tell by his tone of voice that he was taunting Scott and trying to show intimidation.

[Jords]

I posted this after the hl show tonight

Just watched the HL show and Conor tried to be playful with Scott after the noms break announcement, but you dont't need to be a psychologist to know that Conor was angry and showing Scott who was "Boss" with the little "friendly" slap

:worship:

[Patrick]

I think this forum needs to wise up.

[smeagol]

lol funny
he done it after they argued to suck up to bb cause he has had 2 warnings already. they edited that was a bit longer before he done the friendly strangle thing. purely fake for the bb eye

[Redway]

He was only having a laugh. If anything, he was far too nice for my liking given the circumstances...

[GypsyGoth]

I didn't see it, but it sounds like attempted murder.

[MTVN]

Eh Conor got another warning recently? What was that for?

[Scream]

I didn't say it was assault, I said it felt uncomfortable to watch because it seemed Scott seemed a bit uncomfortable.

That weren't aimed at you, it was as a whole. The assault bit was aimed at another user who said it.

[Indy]

When just a few seconds ago he was raging at him? You could tell by his tone of voice that he was taunting Scott and trying to show intimidation.

I'd say it worked, too. By the time he (Scott) was telling Deana how fake that was, he looked like he was ready to wet himself.

Conor and Scott don't hang out together, they're not mates. They're two people who live in the same house and have to interact. Scott is not someone Conor knows well enough to be that physical with as a friend. It would be no different than Luke A deciding out of the blue to grab Sara's ass, and then justify it as ok since they've lived together for weeks.

[Vladimir]

I don't know, but it seemed like he wanted to intimidate Scott.

[Yayita]

Also, did you see how angru he was when he was at the table spinning his glass? You can tell he wanted to get up and kick someones ass, the guy is VIOLENT and full of RAGE!

[*mazedsalv**]

Eh Conor got another warning recently? What was that for?

No idea. We have not been told or been shown :(
My apologies it wasn't yesterday, Daily Star said he was warned another time on the 28th. (Thursday).

[Callum]

They should have just thrown him out after his rant, the thug shouldn't still be in there. :idc:

[MTVN]

No idea. We have not been told or been shown :(
My apologies it wasn't yesterday, Daily Star said he was warned another time on the 28th. (Thursday).

Ah right thanks, hmm I think they should be obliged to tell us when housemates have been given warnings tbh, if not on the main show then on BOTS

[Kate!]

Bottom line, as I said earlier, what matters is how Scott interpreted it and how it made HIM feel. He looked very uncomfortable to me.

[Bluerang1]

To be honest I didn't see much wrong except that it went on for too long. I don't know, Conor shouldn't have touched him though.

[smeagol]

Conor shouldn't have touched him though.

he touched him as well was it in a inapropiate way the barsteward get him outttt lol

[iRyan]

DS is overreacting as usual, but I do think it was fake as ****. Just a minute earlier he was cursing out Deana and Scott to himself. He clearly caught himself and tried to make up for it so to try and look good.

[reece(:]

It felt awkward watching it, cannot stand Conor.

[iRyan]

But yeah, it was quite weird considering Scott and him are nowhere near friends and they don't seem to have that kind of joking relationship. Scott definitely seemed uncomfortable by it.

[Bluerang1]

he touched him as well was it in a inapropiate way the barsteward get him outttt lol

No I mean the whole ordeal. He didn't have to get physical with him. A hug would have sufficed.

[flamingGalah!]

He was definitely trying to intimidate Scott :nono:

[Mystic Mock]

Banned hahaha do i give a ****.... Will only be for the 20th time. I have a life outside this forum...

And saying my comment is pathetic...This whole thread is pathetic as are the majority of inbreds on this site.

Farewell..............

There's no need to describe Conor for us, we already know what his like.

[Donovan.]

Tbh I was kind of disappointed in how fast his anger for Scott went away. I thought that would be a full blown argument, but Conor got over it as soon as Scott reminded him that everybody does it. Really Scott should have told the same to Caroline when Benedict was still in the house.

[Kazanne]

A bit menacing I thought and totally fake.

[DanielLuis]

It was obvious that he was trying to send a message and trying to intimidate him...
I'm really starting to hate that bastard...

[WCR1942]

In view of what he publically threatened to do to Deana I would definitely feel menaced if he got any where near my throat; smiling or not.

[Soniamad]

I suspect that psychologists would say it was the definition of passive aggressive. You see that kind of thing in the Sopranos and the Godfather movies. The ganmgsters often physically display affection but do it in a way that leaves the other person in no doubt as to who is the more physically intimidating. That's definitely how I saw it.

I think it's just Conor thinking he's smarter than he actually is - AGAIN.

But, to be fair, that might not be what was intended. Nonetheless if I was a producer, I'd be having an off-air chat with Conor, just to tell him the incident was noted. That way you wouldn't be unfair to the oaf by broadcasting something that painted him in an untrue light. But, if he did mean to threaten, you would be letting him know that you saw it for what it was, and wouldn't put up with any more of it.

[Indy]

Nonetheless if I was a producer, I'd be having an off-air chat with Conor, just to tell him the incident was noted. That way you wouldn't be unfair to the oaf by broadcasting something that painted him in an untrue light. But, if he did mean to threaten, you would be letting him know that you saw it for what it was, and wouldn't put up with any more of it.


This begs the question. BB has assured via BOTS, that Conor has been given an official warning and is being closely monitored. If he's being so closely monitored after expressing violent thoughts about other housemates, why was he ever allowed to get so close to another housemate's throat to begin with?

[armand.kay]

Conor is such a control freak he saw that Scott was getting closer to Deana and he knew that scott would probably nominate him so he had to jump on him and act all playful. Notice when he was doing it he made sure he had eye contact and that scott could no see Deana or anyone else. His tone of voice may of been playful but his body language was quit aggressive.

[billy123]

The show is fast becoming untenable now and i can see this being the last.
They are partly to blame as they marketed and targeted the show at a younger and lower intelligence audience than ever before and now we are seeing the fallout from that in the form of emotional immaturity and constant over-reaction to the simplest of interactions between housemates.
Well done BB fans the show is up the crapper once again wave it goodbye.

[Mrluvaluva]

I just watched it. The actual incident seemed harmless enough if watched on it's own, but seeing him just before it, his looks and body language did portray that he was very wound up and he does come across as aggressive. I think he thought about his actions beforehand, but had to make his feelings known. It was definitely done for some kind of effect.

[erinp5]

I just watched it. The actual incident was seemed harmless enough if watched on it's own, but seeing him just before it, his looks and body language did portray that he was very wound up and he does come across as aggressive. I think he thought about his actions beforehand, but had to make his feelings known. It was definitely done for some kind of effect.

Before he approached Scott, Conor had slammed a kitchen door and swore,he was well peed off. The very way he twisted Scotts head and the voice he used ,no question it was to intimidate Scott.

[nwgayboyuk]

If he had done that to me id of pushed the thug off. And gone to the diryroom and conplaned to bb

[Ammi]

..I think it came across as exactly what it was..someone trying to portray the exact opposite of what they were feeling..Conor was obviously annoyed but I don't think it was meant to be threatening nor did Scott seem threatened by it...if it had of been another housemate other than Conor I don't think people would be even discussing it much

[cassieparis]

Conor was sending the house a message by getting physical with Scott. Especially as he was seething a moment previous.
Trying to cover his rage (which he finds really hard) with slap and tickle his anger leaks and his actions become threatening.
Even those charmed enough to find him attractive -personality notwithstanding- :rolleyes: would have been uncomfortable with the grabs slaps and neck bending I hope. Even in the most passionate circumstances :blush: :shocked:

Intimidation (also called cowing) is intentional behaviour that "would cause a person of ordinary sensibilities" fear of injury or harm. It's not necessary to prove that the behaviour was so violent as to cause terror or that the victim was actually frightened

[Angus]

No-one has the right to put their hands on anyone else whether "playfully" or not. How people can defend that neanderthal, knuckle dragging, aggressive thug is beyond me. It's disingenuous to suggest that Conor wasn't fuming when it's clear he was giving Scott the message "don't ******* with me again". What would people have said if he had put his hands "playfully" around Deana's throat instead of Scott's? She was sitting right there so perhaps the thug was sending a double message.

[vortex]

It was intimidating and he was trying to get a point across, I cant stand Conor at all, Im scared he might erupt soon and it will be too late, hopefully Luke S, Adam and Arron will be able to stop him before he does something really wrong.

[arista]

He was only having a laugh.


Yes
to many are reading to much into this.

I blame the Scatty DS boards

[arista]

The show is fast becoming untenable now and i can see this being the last.
They are partly to blame as they marketed and targeted the show at a younger and lower intelligence audience than ever before and now we are seeing the fallout from that in the form of emotional immaturity and constant over-reaction to the simplest of interactions between housemates.
Well done BB fans the show is up the crapper once again wave it goodbye.


I can not
Next bunch will not be the same

[mizzy25]

i thought he crossed the line. if it was myself he had done it to i would he asking him what the heck he was doing?

[joeysteele]

..I think it came across as exactly what it was..someone trying to portray the exact opposite of what they were feeling..Conor was obviously annoyed but I don't think it was meant to be threatening nor did Scott seem threatened by it...if it had of been another housemate other than Conor I don't think people would be even discussing it much

Perfect reasoning, I can completely agree with this. I saw nothing that indicated Scott felt threatened at all, he didn't even tell Conor to go away or even do or say anything to indicate he wasn't comfortable.

I think you are spot on, had this been one of the others approaching Scott this way few would even be commenting never mind reading anything sinister as to it.

[vortex]

Besides didnt anyone saw how he was spinning his beer glass on the dinner table, he was fuming and right after that he went and start grabbing Scott's head, he was mad but since he couldnt beat Scott, he tried to get physical with him in a "playful" way, Big Bully must be proud of Conor.

[coolface]

It was typical passive aggressive bullyish behaviour, meant to be seen as playful and a 'forgiving' attitude but you don't need to be a psychologist to realise Connor was sending a message and displaying his dominance over Scott holding him in a vulnerable position with his hands around his throat and slapping him. His angry outbursts are masked in a playful manner. If the cameras weren't there, it would be a totally different situation.

[Munchkins]

It was odd, but i wasn't offended by it, as i was with him&Deana
still, how many warnings has he had?

[chuff me dizzy]

Bullying on a grand scale, the likes of which have never been on BB before, hang him !!!!!!! :bored::bored:

[Tregard]

It would have been perfectly innocent if:

1) We hadn't seen Conor being completely fuming just moments beforehand
2) Scott hadn't just done something to cause Conor to be angry
3) Conor had in any way shown a friendly nature to Scott in the past
4) Conor didn't already have a track record of aggressiveness

[Marcus.]

he an bad man

[Kizzy]

I didn't like it either, it did have aggressive/ menacing vibe to it imo.

[Munchkins]

Best scenario would be Conor gets removed this week
whilst Luke S is put up, and is evicted

Alas that won't happen

[realitytvsux]

Conor is a barely concealed mass of seething rage. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that his behaviour was intended to intimidate Scott and it seemed to have the desired effect. When I saw him first I thought he was quite charming but he is showing his true colours more and more and they are not pretty.

[Black Dagger]

He was obviously trying to mark his territory, saying 'don't mess with me, don't even think about nominating me' he's a *******.

Easily my most disliked house-mate this year, shame he's going to make the final, the only people who will nominate him are Scott (maybe) and Deana.

[Anthony Hatface]

Just seen it again. Conor seems at least mildly drunk, as if that is any excuse, and Scott is clearly both creeped out and pissed off by his wildly inappropriate molestations. However it was intended, Conor clearly has social graces vastly inferior to the creature that Adam was recently compared with ... Charisma is not in abundant supply right now.

[Cherie]

Just seen it again. Conor seems at least mildly drunk, as if that is any excuse, and Scott is clearly both creeped out and pissed off by his wildly inappropriate molestations. However it was intended, Conor clearly has social graces vastly inferior to the creature that Adam was recently compared with ... Charisma is not in abundant supply right now.

:joker:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It was assault. If it happened in the workplace the lowlife thug would be sacked.

I assume this is a joke?

If not you are really easily offended.

[Redway]

I agree that there has been an overreaction and I can't help but feel that it's because of the housemate involved.

I understand that it may have looked rough (to some) and Conor was clearly annoyed at the time but I don't think he took out his anger on Scott but rather just pissed about.

[Redway]

I didn't like it either, it did have aggressive/ menacing vibe to it imo.

I know it may have looked aggressive and menacing, as you put it, to quite a few people but it's worth noting that Conor is, by nature, quite large and tough, as opposed to Scott, who's a rather posh gentleman. I personally think that it's owning to the housemates involved and their differences above anything else.

[Pronshi]

I say we have him burnt at the stake!

[billy123]

Someone call the army we have been invaded by great wet lettuces.

[fruit_cake]

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbQHzKRcBSdXuCqd36_T1O-VPvyoTt2N6C41ElRTgfTj753TW7xw

[sampvt]

No doubt about it, he was offering a little warning by doing what he did. Wont be long before he is kicked out, he is either pushing for it by design or will get it by default. In both cases he wont make the final.

[rayheartbliss]

it was an intimidating behavior no doubt about it!!!

it was like saying to scott dont cross me cuz i'll ***** you up!

funny how many times he got away with unacceptable behavior!
and im pretty sure bb said they are monitoring his behavior!
clearly not.

[WozMan]

It did seem like he was trying to intimidate Scott as just a second ago he was furious.

THIS!!

I am not in the Conor-hating camp. Ashleigh and Caroline are still public enemy no.s 1 and 2. I try to judge each action on its merits.

To me this was creepy exactly because Scott had shown NO remorse for the task and Conor was legimately angry at him. This behaviour is obviously fine with someone you are on good terms with. The three muscle boys were all pretty pissed at him for losing the table and getting defensive about it instead of apologising.

Conor has also already demonstrated saying nasty things in a 'playful' manner when he is really angry. Imho this is exactly to try and get under other people's radar and avoid it overtly looking nasty.

Context is everything in situations like this.

[joeysteele]

I don't think Scott seemed in the least bothered by it, he didn't move,or try to move, he didn't say clear off he just stayed put,even when Conor moved off, it has been said many times we only get the 1 hours highlights and it may be that this happens more often.

Scott,to all knowledge hasn't moaned about Conor, made no change to his stance on the issue so was clearly not intimidated by Conor and continued his stance with Arron when Arron had a chat with him while again still not in any way seemingly offended or even referring to the way Conor went to him.

I really cannot see where,whether it was right or wrong of Conor to get that close,( and I saw nothing malicious as to it at all), where Scott at the time or anytime shown after it was in the least bothered as to it taking place at all.

[Indy]

I don't think Scott seemed in the least bothered by it, he didn't move,or try to move, he didn't say clear off he just stayed put,even when Conor moved off

That's actually the exact opposite of what Scott did. He did move, he pulled away repeatedly, and at the end, puts his hand up to keep Conor from coming back at him for a 5th or 6th time.

[armand.kay]

Lol 2 seconds before the incident he was sitting at the dinning area abusing a glass.

[joeysteele]

That's actually the exact opposite of what Scott did. He did move, he pulled away repeatedly, and at the end, puts his hand up to keep Conor from coming back at him for a 5th or 6th time.

Sorry but I don't recall it that way and have watched it 3 times, I will look at it again later though.
He didn't even get up to move away even when Conor moved back, hardly a sign of being intimidated, also he wasn't the only one there when Conor came to him and even then no one else said anything negative as to Conors actions too, including Scott himself.

If someone approached me and I felt unsure or didn't want them to, I would be on my feet and telling them to back off, if I felt in any way threatened, also after the event I would have made that view known too.

[WozMan]

You're forgetting Scott's normal range of movement.


He doesn't.

[joeysteele]

You're forgetting Scott's normal range of movement.


He doesn't.

:joker:Very well pointed out.

[Vanessa]

I must say i didn't like the way Connor touched Scott face. It was very patronising. He was clearly fuming at poor Scott! :hugesmile:

[cookiemonster]

i'm starting to really dislike Conor, he's an aggressive and angry man underneath

[erinp5]

Day 27: Scott finds his feisty face

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

After a peculiar wake up call, Scott's on the warpath today. The usually louche, aloof and somewhat carefree housemate was rattled by Arron's early-morning prank and has since had not one but two minor tantrums, sounding off to his new bosom buddy, Becky.

His first wedge of complaint was slapped down on Luke S's account. The newly red-headed student from Macclesfield spoke with Wildcard Becky in the garden about how disturbed he was by Luke S posing a question to Deana yesterday that clearly made our Miss India UK uncomfortable. When Luke S asked her if she'd rather a very expensive wedding or a cheap one (and take the money instead), she said she'd take the money. Apparently Luke S thinks this is solid proof that she's a gold-digger, but Scott's siding with Deana on this one and can see her point that loving someone doesn't necessarily require lavish nuptials.

Then, later on, Scott had something to say about the Arron / Sara non-romance that's been the hot topic for the past week, even though it's all apparently talk, hot air and little else. Scott sounded off about how awkward he finds the whole thing, how he wishes Arron would 'shut up about it' and Becky was quick to agree.

Was it that extravagant self-defence episode after he was rumbled for talking nominations that gave Scott this sudden new lease of life? Or maybe it was being called 'sheep' by certain housemates for the past fortnight that provoked the change. Whatever it was, we're seeing a more opinionated Scott jumping out of his own shadow - and we've decided we rather like it.
love Scott's feisty side

[JamesBond]

I'd like to see him try that with Adam.