I can now confirm, the year mainstream music went downhill.

[Patrick]

After spending the day watching 'Every Single UK Number One of The Noughties' on MTV...

I can 110% confirm, that 2009 was indeed the year that music lost meaning, and every song begun sounding the same along with the music videos looking the same.

So can we stop all this '2008 was when things got crap' bollocks - because 2008 was actually brilliant in comparison to 2009.

The whole list of Number Ones were amazing, right up until 'June 2009' when JLS came on the scene with 'Beat Again' and now Taio Cruiz is on with 'Break Your Heart.'

Says it all really.

[Brother Leon]

Nar. 2008.

2009 is when UK Hip Hop died and every fool sold out for the Chart Money though.

[MTVN]

Break Your Heart is a great tune

[King Gizzard]

It died long, long before that bro

[Jayson]

I don't like you any more MTVN

[Patrick]

It died long, long before that bro

Obviously - I just mean when it went off the rails completely and everything became generic and sh*te.

[Jayson]

2009 was also the year MJ died and Justin Bieber came along.

[Jords]

I dont think its been too bad this year.

[King Gizzard]

We need to round up everyone who attends T4 on the Beach and feed them to the lions

[Jayson]

Great idea Nathan, I'll fetch an assortment of Topman shirts to use as bait

[Shaun]

2009 was amazing (if you're looking at music beyond #1s because you can make convincingly bad arguments for every year if you do that).

The XX, Florence + the Machine, VV Brown, Mumford + Sons, Animal Collective, Beach House, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Prodigy, Royksopp, Passion Pit, Pet Shop Boys, Paloma Faith, Major Lazer, Noisettes, Lily Allen, Mika, The Leisure Society, Grizzly Bear, Doves, Empire of the Sun, Daniel Merriweather, Biffy Clyro, Bombay Bicycle Club, Bat for Lashes, Basement Jaxx, Arctic Monkeys, Antony + the Johnsons all did great albums.

also had popstars' career highlights:
Lady GaGa - The Fame Monster
Rihanna - Rated R
Katy Perry - Waking Up in Vegas (the album was 2008 but this was her best song :idc:)
Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA (only good song, let's be honest)

[Jayson]

Whilst that's true Shaun, they're not what most would consider mainstream artists.

Except for the four at the bottom of course.

[Patrick]

I dont think its been too bad this year.

True - we still have some sh*te like Nicki Minaj trying to interfere and get her first Number One, and people like Rhianna and Bieber bopping about - but we've had some great songs this year TBH.


Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA (only good song, let's be honest)

Soooo over rated, I'm not even kidding I've heard Hannah Montana songs better than this one by Miley

[King Gizzard]

Noddin' ma head like yeaaah

[Jayson]

Well if it's a game of 'Post Random Sh*t' you want, Nathan, then it's a game of 'Post Random Sh*t' you'll get.

The paper read murdaaaa, black on black murdaaaa

[iRyan]

I thought 2004-early 2007 in music was really **** as well. At least in America.

[Shaun]

The 1999-2003 wave of British singer-songwriters was horrible. Damien Rice, David Gray, Dido and Travis dominating the charts. **** right off you bland ****s.

Total bubblegum pop too - S Club, Steps, Spice Girls, Atomic Kitten, Blue, Backstreet Boys, Aqua. All occasionally fun for a bit of nostalgia, but all ultimately soulless, artless tack.

And then there was garage and R&B at the same time. Craig David. That man alone is enough to write off the early 00s.

[Locke.]

Damien Rice is boss :nono:

[King Gizzard]

craig david all over your boink

[King Gizzard]

and yes, I liked Damien Rice

[Locke.]

5YXVMCHG-Nk

A classic

[Jords]

Nothing wrong with a bit of Dido :pipe:

[Shaun]

yes, the bit in 'Stan' will do :pipe:

and blehhhh Damien Rice. One album wonder. Pretty songs, but nothing interesting.

[Novo]

Craig David :worship:

This came on the Radio the other day actually

PsA4rQmwZkA

[Me. I Am Salman]

Have always thought this.
Although 2011 was a good year imo

[Ninastar]

2004/2005 :love:

[Saph]

2009-2011 have been a bit **** when it comes to music, but this year hasnt seemed to bad compared with the last couple :)

[Saph]

for me, 1998-2007 was like my golden era

[Tom4784]

Nothing wrong with a bit of Dido :pipe:

I SO misread this.

[Iceman]

I SO misread this.

This

[Marc]

Died in the 90s

[rayheartbliss]

its so sh*t now!

Little mix on their way

doesn't help. -__-

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

2012 is the best year for music since the dawn of time because of the idler wheel

[Smithy]

Patrick thinking he knows anything about music

http://i.imgur.com/APFhv.jpg

[Iceman]

Patrick thinking he knows anything about music

http://i.imgur.com/APFhv.jpg

[2]

[Gstar]

2004/2005 :love:

This.

Also with my wife Beyonce Knowles still around I'll always be happy

[Maia]

2010 tbh

The great Pixie Lott was introduced to the world in 2009

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

nobody ****ing likes pixie lott be quiet

[Maia]

Three #1s say otherwise

[Emilyissocoollike]

shockingly i've actually liked a lot of mainstream music this year. :P and i thought it was ****ty last year and the year before that..

[Doogle]

2006 was my favourite year for the charts. :love:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Random bump but my opinion of 2009 has actually changed, Rihanna/Beyonce//Britney/Kelly Clarkson/Lily Allen/Mariah Carey/Ciara/T.I/Keri Hilson/Jamie Foxx/Shakira/Jay-Z/Alicia Keys/Kanye West/50 Cent/Ne-Yo released good or great singles/albums that year :worship: and Flo Rida was actually tolerable

[Marc]

The X Factor ruined music

[T*]

The X Factor ruined music

[2] x 1000000

[Stu]

I'm really bad at discerning between exact years of the noughties because it's all been such wank.

2000-2003 were the skater/wrestlin VT Nu Metal years for me. POD, Drowning Pool, Creed hell I even took a crack at liking Korn at one point in time. If you were on the sountrack to The Matrix welcome to my life.

2004 was all about going back to classic metal. Scuzz was amazing that summer.

2005 at 14 years of age saw me 'mature' into my short lived indie days. I had a Bravery single, thought Doves were fairly neat, thought Bloc Party were prettt damn organic and traded the filth of Scuzz for the clean rush of MTV2 and it's sonic modesty.

[Gstar]

2009 wasn't a bad year for music, like all of the reasons Shaun said

The only thing I hated about 2009 music was when JLS's song (she makes me want to oh oh oh) stopped Beyonce - Sweet dreams on getting #1

http://31.media.tumblr.com/68ebd919306e06e91906941782ffb0e4/tumblr_mupn8rcHcv1qk7scno2_250.gif

[Alf]

Music will never die, they'll always be great music to listen to, you don't have to listen to whatever is currently popular with this generation, go out and discover, there's tons of the stuff out there.

[Stu]

Music will never die, they'll always be great music to listen to, you don't have to listen to whatever is currently popular with this generation, go out and discover, there's tons of the stuff out there.
That is what is so depressing. We have access to more music than any other generation in human history and some people still live and die by what is in their immediate bubble of ponce and have never stepped outside it. I see people debating which X Factor songs are the prettiest and I am like seriously? That is where you are putting your thought?

[Redway]

I suppose what's also saddening is the fact that in an age where supposedly high-quality music can be achieved through little more than a laptop the mainstream stuff is increasingly bad.

[Mystic Mock]

I like Music in every year tbh, obviously some years are worse than others but overall there's at least one mainstream song in a year that's good.

[Me. I Am Salman]

2009 wasn't a bad year for music, like all of the reasons Shaun said

The only thing I hated about 2009 music was when JLS's song (she makes me want to oh oh oh) stopped Beyonce - Sweet dreams on getting #1

http://31.media.tumblr.com/68ebd919306e06e91906941782ffb0e4/tumblr_mupn8rcHcv1qk7scno2_250.gif

that song was 2011 you idiot

http://31.media.tumblr.com/68ebd919306e06e91906941782ffb0e4/tumblr_mupn8rcHcv1qk7scno2_250.gif

[Me. I Am Salman]

That is what is so depressing. We have access to more music than any other generation in human history and some people still live and die by what is in their immediate bubble of ponce and have never stepped outside it. I see people debating which X Factor songs are the prettiest and I am like seriously? That is where you are putting your thought?

I suppose what's also saddening is the fact that in an age where supposedly high-quality music can be achieved through little more than a laptop the mainstream stuff is increasingly bad.

And similarly, I feel sorry for your lack of acknowledgement that B'Day is one of the best albums of all time http://31.media.tumblr.com/68ebd919306e06e91906941782ffb0e4/tumblr_mupn8rcHcv1qk7scno2_250.gif

[Z]

I think when people moan about "mainstream music" it's because subconsciously they're comparing it to 1) when they were younger and everything seemed better and 2) what passes for mainstream is now throwaway crap - plenty of one hit wonders where you'd recognise the song immediately but you couldn't name the person singing it or pick them out of a line up because the people in charge of what's delivered to your ears don't put any faith in the idea of longevity.

Radio 1 is so guilty of this. They love "breaking" new acts to appear niche and credible, but then only play certain songs on repeat so to maintain their concept of "mainstream", by causing stuff to be mainstream. How many artists have they allowed to have a 2 year/1 album shelf life before shunting them to the side unless they can miraculously provide the goods immediately to get back on there? Ellie Goulding's one such example, and she only really managed it by latching onto a trend. Where is Pixie Lott nowadays? What about Razorlight, The Kooks, Duffy? I could go on and on, and those are just from recent years. The artists didn't become any less talented; the radio stopped deeming them cool and so they were no longer cool.

It's the throwaway nature of music nowadays that makes people think it's crap. The actual is music is just fine, for the most part. When was the last time we conjured up a popstar who went into legendary territory? 30 years ago? 20 years ago? Will Young's managed to stick around for over 10 years but he never gets playlisted, when really he should be heralded for winning a talent competition and going on to show that he is actually talented and not just a faceless singer with no real identity or skills. Mutya Keisha Siobhan (more emphasis on the MK part) have been behind some of the biggest hits in pop music since 2000 and yet their new single didn't get spun on radio because they were deemed "too old". They're all still in their 20s.

You could argue it endlessly but I think the basic problem with the music industry is that the agenda of the main players in the music business doesn't make allowances for growth, creativity or experimentation. If you want to have a long, successful career in pop music, you have to be constantly churning music out (e.g. Rihanna) or risk being cast aside (e.g. any of her peers who started out at the same time, like Amerie)...

[Me. I Am Salman]

Radio 1 are scum
Also she doesn't constantly "churn" new music it's called being good to you fans and being passionate about what you do

[Z]

Radio 1 are scum
Also she doesn't constantly "churn" new music it's called being good to you fans and being passionate about what you do

I didn't mean it negatively; she works hard and puts music out like clockwork to keep the momentum going. That's how she has to work because if she gets complacent, someone else WILL take her place, and I think that's why she's constantly putting out new music. That's how the music business is now, so she's working hard to stay on top of it.

Would The Beatles have survived in this climate? Would Radio 1 have given them initial airplay but then stopped, or would they have been the juggernaut success they were? It's just so bizarre, there's no support for careers at all, you get your one shot at success and unless you know what you're doing, it'll all be taken away from you at the drop of a hat.

[Saph]

I think its a lot easier to get a #1 now than it was 10+ years ago, but its harder to keep the longevity and interest

[Z]

I think its a lot easier to get a #1 now than it was 10+ years ago, but its harder to keep the longevity and interest

I think that's the problem in a nutshell really. The expectation is that you will get a #1 and if you don't, you get dropped. B*Witched are the best example of that but there are plenty of more modern examples. Whereas if you go back to the 80s and earlier; chart positions weren't the be all and end all of your career.