Conor & Arron are an Embarrassment to all Men in the UK

[Lister of Smeg]

i say this as a man there attitude towards the girls is disgusting they make them sit on the floor then throw lots of vile abuse at them. Arron clearly idolizes Conor and copies everything he does so to me he's just a brain dead sheep but Conor is a real nasty piece of work theres no excuse for the things he says and does he's just a nasty bully that gets a kick out of picking on women i can only hope no woman goes near him when he gets out .

[Jords]

I actually dont agree with Conor being blamed for Arron's actions. He is his own person and if he chooses to follow a person such as Conor is says a lot more about him!

[joeysteele]

Of course they are not, they likely wouldn't act like that outside the house, Deana and Becky are hardly representatives of decent female behaviour for godness sake.

Arron certainly is not an embarrassment to me and I doubt to lots of other guys too, so to all men is a likely massive exaggeration.

[Holly Christmas]

I just had to come out of another thread before I exploded as I saw comments about admiring these cretins and how they should be role models. Just the absolute worst thing to say to someone who has suffered verbal and physical abuse in a relationship which is known on the forum cos I have spoken about it openly in several occasions. Argh!!!!

[JamesBond]

Boys not Men!

[Amy Jade]

I just had to come out of another thread before I exploded as I saw comments about admiring these cretins and how they should be role models. Just the absolute worst thing to say to someone who has suffered verbal and physical abuse in a relationship which is known on the forum cos I have spoken about it openly in several occasions. Argh!!!!

If it makes you feel better I think the people are trolling to get a reaction from certain members, which is pathetic imo.

I feel the same, my dad used to hit my mum and it's really sickening some people find it humorous to crack jokes about such a serious subject. Stay strong.

[Novo]

I just had to come out of another thread before I exploded as I saw comments about admiring these cretins and how they should be role models. Just the absolute worst thing to say to someone who has suffered verbal and physical abuse in a relationship which is known on the forum cos I have spoken about it openly in several occasions. Argh!!!!

totally forgot that Conor and Arron beat up Deana and Becky

[lou22]

Nasty, horrible boys! Conor is worse than Arron, but Arron is in no way innocent! They both need to go! Their behavior is shameful!

[Amy Jade]

totally forgot that Conor and Arron beat up Deana and Becky

You do realise you're not funny, right?

[Jords]

Guys its getting a bit low now lets drop it.

[jet]

Conor is one nasty piece of work. He has shown clearly what type of 'man' he is by the vile behaviour towards the girls. Arron has let himself down big time too and shown himself to be a gutless little boy by copying Conor. Such a shame - I had high hopes for him.

[Novo]

You do realise you're not funny, right?

You do realise that comparing the whole Aaron and Conor v Becky and Deana thing to Domestic violence has no logic at all.. considering neither of them have attempted to or even came close to hitting them?

[KingOfTheMods]

Conor is more of a worry really, I think he's definitely got anger issues and could explode on anybody at the drop of a hat. He needs to lay down on a big couch and tell the psychiatrist about his mother.

[Amy Jade]

You do realise that comparing the whole Aaron and Conor v Becky and Deana thing to Domestic violence has no logic at all.. considering neither of them have attempted to or even came close to hitting them?

Have you ever been around domestic violence?

Goading arguments and belittling others is how it starts and slowly progresses, you're being compleatly insensitive of *Kate*.

[Novo]

Have you ever been around domestic violence?

Goading arguments and belittling others is how it starts and slowly progresses, you're being compleatly insensitive of *Kate*.

Are you being serious right now? what we are seeing in the house is just light arguments really.. hasn't been heated like the arguments in BB5, Conor just ignored Deana today on the highlight show when she was arguing back to him.. i doubt he has ever even thought of laying a hand on her or Becky it's just people on here trying to make their least favourite housemates by stupidly comparing it with Domestic violence.. they have been out of order sometimes the same way if a woman can argue with another woman and be out of order.. this has nothing in common with domestic violence at all

[Bluerang1]

Ha

[KingOfTheMods]

Are you being serious right now? what we are seeing in the house is just light arguments really.. hasn't been heated like the arguments in BB5, Conor just ignored Deana today on the highlight show when she was arguing back to him.. i doubt he has ever even thought of laying a hand on her or Becky it's just people on here trying to make their least favourite housemates by stupidly comparing it with Domestic violence.. they have been out of order sometimes the same way if a woman can argue with another woman and be out of order.. this has nothing in common with domestic violence at all

Are you kidding, he blows up anytime something doesn't go his own way. Every time you hear him speak it's full of ill will or violence towards somebody. The geezer is an out and out tosspot and I wouldn't be surprised if a load of stories come out in the papers about him before long. And you can say it's just talk but look at his eyes and how aggressive he is in his speech. He's a bully.

[billy123]

Morally bankrupt in every sense of the word nobody really like losers like him.

[Novo]

Are you kidding, he blows up anytime something doesn't go his own way. Every time you hear him speak it's full of ill will or violence towards somebody. The geezer is an out and out tosspot and I wouldn't be surprised if a load of stories come out in the papers about him before long. And you can say it's just talk but look at his eyes and how aggressive he is in his speech. He's a bully.

must of the time when he does " Blow up " as you say.. he soon forgets about whatever happens like with nomination discussion Scott and Deana had which Big Brother removed the football table for.. he didn't really go mad about that he soon forgot about it.. and you can speculate all you want about stories coming out about him but until they have actually came out then you can't guess whether he's been involved in domestic violence or anything like that.. to me he just gets a bit heated sometimes during arguments nothing more and nothing less

[Bojangles]

Conor is a potential wife beater,but he wouldn't go so far on Tv to assault a hm.He can restrain himself for the sake of his ego.

[Jords]

Sigh

As much as I hate Conor I wouldnt like to think and especially suggest hed take part in domestic violence. And I really dont think Kate meant it in this way either.

Some mod hurry up and clean this thread up.

[Novo]

I find people that predicts someone else beats up women without any proof or real evidence ignorant.. but there we go

[jet]

Are you being serious right now? what we are seeing in the house is just light arguments really.. hasn't been heated like the arguments in BB5, Conor just ignored Deana today on the highlight show when she was arguing back to him.. i doubt he has ever even thought of laying a hand on her or Becky it's just people on here trying to make their least favourite housemates by stupidly comparing it with Domestic violence.. they have been out of order sometimes the same way if a woman can argue with another woman and be out of order.. this has nothing in common with domestic violence at all

Just a week ago Conor was threatening (whether he really meant it or not) to punch Deana in the face along with other disgusting sexual threats. That was enough for me to intensely dislike him as a father of 2 girls. I just see him as an uncouth, big headed, insensitive ignorant asshole who has no respect for women and even less for himself.

[armand.kay]

Connor is just a ****ing stupid cocky prick. I don't think he beats women he just bullies them.

[Holly Christmas]

I find people that predicts someone else beats up women without any proof or real evidence ignorant.. but there we go

Dear God :bored:
Novo.... Where exactly have I said that Conor or Arron best up women. I haven't.

I just asked for you to have a little think and not make a massive joke and mockery of the situation which reminds someone like myself of issues and is a sensitive topic. Plus I asked you politely and you came back with a silly comment about how much you admire them and they should be role models.

It's clear you know nothing about DV. Domestic violence doesn't have to be physical.

It starts out very minor, controlling behaviour, putdowns, slowly robbing you of your confidence. The aim is for them to get you completely dependent on them. Once they get you to that stage, it escalates. I will be happy to discuss the subject with you as you and I gave never got on and I can befriend anyone normally, so I don't think its me.

[Novo]

I don't really see how that links in with the Conor and Arron situation though if anything close to domestic violence was going on in the house then they would have been kicked out by now and nothing i have seen really has anything to do with domestic violence other then the threat Conor made which he later thought about and regretted saying it.. i just find it really silly that people are comparing them in this way.. he belittles Adam the same way he does with Deana so i don't think he targets Women either

[Amy Jade]

I find people that predicts someone else beats up women without any proof or real evidence ignorant.. but there we go

Nobody said either of them did, both *Kate* and I simply pointed out how their treatment of women is reminiscent of how we have witnessed the beginnings of domestic violence, you twisted our words and here we are.

[Novo]

You are linking domestic violence with Conor and Arron and saying how you think they act similar to what you have witnessed before.. so in a way i'd say you are somewhat predicting they would use domestic violence

[Holly Christmas]

I don't really see how that links in with the Conor and Arron situation though if anything close to domestic violence was going on in the house then they would have been kicked out by now and nothing i have seen really has anything to do with domestic violence other then the threat Conor made which he later thought about and regretted saying it.. i just find it really silly that people are comparing them in this way.. he belittles Adam the same way he does with Deana so i don't think he targets Women either

Ok. I'll explain a bit more/ better if I may?

To repeat, I'm not saying that domestic violence is going on in the house. Bullying yes, but that's a separate issue. What I'm saying, Novo, is that the way Conor and Arron speak to and about other housemates reminds me of how DV starts and I find it uncomfortable to watch. I know you are entitled as everyone else to post your opinions and am not looking to argue with you at all, but please just consider that just because you may not understand where I'm coming from, you having never had any experience of DV I hope?, I don't take the subject lightly.

So when I asked for people, and I didn't specifically aim it just at yourself, for it not to be made a joke of, it was very offputting to have you make even more of a joke about it. I left the thread because I didn't want to fall out .... Again lol.

I experienced being sworn at, controlled and called names for a couple of years before it began to escalate. It's a very slow gradual process and you get worn down.

You get to the point where you believe all the stuff they say to you and that everything is your fault.

Anyway, I've said all I can. I hope you can see my point? I don't know how well I've explained it. It's a tricky subject.

[Novo]

I see your point but for me it's hard to understand how you'd compare Conor and Arron's actions to the start of DV though ( Aaron more so )

[Amy Jade]

You are linking domestic violence with Conor and Arron and saying how you think they act similar to what you have witnessed before.. so in a way i'd say you are somewhat predicting they would use domestic violence

Well then you're wrong. I don't know either of them to even say that but the way they treated Deana and Becky today reminded me of how my Dad used to treat my Mum, belittling and demeaning her so naturally I found it uncomfortable to view so when I saw certain people condoning their behaviour I at first ignored it but you followed Kate and rebuffed our accounts as stupid in short because you've not been through anything similar.

I have no idea if this is what you want though , to create a dramatic reaction to entertain yourself no matter how others feel.

[Brother Leon]

To be fair. The title is ridiculously extreme. I can think of true embarrassments to the men of the U.K and Arron & Conor from Big Brother 13 aren't people I would think of immediately.

[Novo]

What on earth are you banging on about now Stupidhoe? just when i see people comparing the actions of Conor and Arron ( like i said above Arron more so ) to Domestic violence in any shape it feels like i am on a different planet because to me it's just normal arguments in that house.. nothing more and nothing less

[Amy Jade]

Yes I understand that's how you see it but that's probably because you've never witnessed the beginnings of domestic violence, I have and it reminded me of Conor and Arrons treatment of Deana which made me uncomfortable. You may not agree but you could respect our opinions.

[Sophiee]

to associate conor/arron with domestic violence is extremely over the top.

[rinkydinkpanther]

i say this as a man there attitude towards the girls is disgusting they make them sit on the floor then throw lots of vile abuse at them. Arron clearly idolizes Conor and copies everything he does so to me he's just a brain dead sheep but Conor is a real nasty piece of work theres no excuse for the things he says and does he's just a nasty bully that gets a kick out of picking on women i can only hope no woman goes near him when he gets out .

the likes of caroline ash, shiv and scott have said a whole load mor epoisonous comments throughout the 5 weeks than everyone else put together....some of what theyve said is disgraceful...

conor is a buffoon , arron is basically allright, hes learning and growing, hes not afriad to make mistakes and boy he does make them, but hes open to the experience, very entertaining , honest and laughs at himself

[rinkydinkpanther]

Well then you're wrong. I don't know either of them to even say that but the way they treated Deana and Becky today reminded me of how my Dad used to treat my Mum, belittling and demeaning her so naturally I found it uncomfortable to view so when I saw certain people condoning their behaviour I at first ignored it but you followed Kate and rebuffed our accounts as stupid in short because you've not been through anything similar.

I have no idea if this is what you want though , to create a dramatic reaction to entertain yourself no matter how others feel.in my life experience ive heard women put down men far more than the other way around....abusive the mans credit cards, making false allegations, having affairs, denying him rights to access for his children, 1 mate was lied to for 4 years about him being the childs biological father, he paid for 4 years whilst she acoided blood tests, the truth caught up with her, the father had built a 4 year relationship and was heartbroken, she had also defrauded him for 4 years income too

any man can have his entire life destroyed at any time by any woman expecially those closest to them. try being a man, its much harder than being a woman in the uk

[Josy]

I don't see how whats happening in there relates to domestic violence at all tbh, Conor made some remarks that where a step too far and since then its just been a case of arguing and bitching between hms who dislike each other, the public are just waiting to pounce on any little thing he says or does, yes he can be nasty as can Arron but people seem to forgot that the hms are being watched constantly by the production team and I think they all also have an individual psychologist linked to them? and I'm pretty sure if they thought there was any signs of domestic violence/abuse or even bullying going on then they would step in.

[rinkydinkpanther]

the girls dont look the least bit scared of conor and deffo not arron, this is the usual over inflated biased politically correct drivel usually perpetuated by feminists...the get rich quick agenda for such women seems to be have huge chips on both shoulders, blame men for all your woes and find every single possible excuse to feel sorry for yourself in a desperate attempt to get cheap attention.....meanwhile serious crimes elsewhere go ignored and unpunished..

[Indy]

Signs of an abusive relationship: (http://www.helpguide.org/mental/domestic_violence_abuse_types_signs_causes_effects .htm)
To determine whether your relationship is abusive, answer the questions below. The more “yes” answers, the more likely it is that you’re in an abusive relationship.

Your Inner Thoughts and Feelings
Do you:
feel afraid of your partner much of the time?
avoid certain topics out of fear of angering your partner?
feel that you can’t do anything right for your partner?
believe that you deserve to be hurt or mistreated?
wonder if you’re the one who is crazy?
feel emotionally numb or helpless?

Your Partner’s Belittling Behavior
Does your partner:
humiliate or yell at you?
criticize you and put you down?
treat you so badly that you’re embarrassed for your friends or family to see?
ignore or put down your opinions or accomplishments?
blame you for their own abusive behavior?
see you as property or a sex object, rather than as a person?

Your Partner’s Violent Behavior or Threats
have a bad and unpredictable temper?
hurt you, or threaten to hurt or kill you?
threaten to take your children away or harm them?
threaten to commit suicide if you leave?
force you to have sex?
destroy your belongings?

Your Partner’s Controlling Behavior
Does your partner:
act excessively jealous and possessive?
control where you go or what you do?
keep you from seeing your friends or family?
limit your access to money, the phone, or the car?
constantly check up on you?



Off the top of my head, I can see 10 yes answers in terms of how Conor (and to a lesser extent, Arron) interact with Deana. It doesn't take 10 yeses for a counselor to suggest a woman attempt to leave a relationship.

Just because this behavior is happening in front of a TV camera does not make it ok. Just because it's being done by people competing to win a big check does not justify it.
Just because you think it's cute or funny does not make it safe or harmless.

[rinkydinkpanther]

the women of the house and caroline especially have thrown far far more verbal insults than aaron or connor, its the women who mocked adams weight, its the woman who called adam a gorilla, its the likes of deana who couldnt handle criticism, everyone else took it on the chin..

[Johnnyuk123]

I hope they change it to a double eviction then Conron the bromance is evicted!

[Angus]

Dear God :bored:
Novo.... Where exactly have I said that Conor or Arron best up women. I haven't.

I just asked for you to have a little think and not make a massive joke and mockery of the situation which reminds someone like myself of issues and is a sensitive topic. Plus I asked you politely and you came back with a silly comment about how much you admire them and they should be role models.

It's clear you know nothing about DV. Domestic violence doesn't have to be physical.

It starts out very minor, controlling behaviour, putdowns, slowly robbing you of your confidence. The aim is for them to get you completely dependent on them. Once they get you to that stage, it escalates. I will be happy to discuss the subject with you as you and I gave never got on and I can befriend anyone normally, so I don't think its me.

Absolutely right! I spent 10 years with a guy whose behaviour escalated out of control to the point I woke up one night to find a knife to my throat and only by the grace of god am I still here. That was my tipping point and I left the same day with my kids when he was out of the house. He went from a charming guy to a monster as soon as his ring was on my finger, and it escalated from snide, nasty, derogatory comments and put downs to physical violence. We all walked on eggshells for fear of angering him. His silent rages were terrifying. He would not allow me to see my friends and family without threatening to beat them up, and in those days domestic violence was not taken seriously so I was isolated and friendless. That's what bullies do - isolate to intimidate. It took me years to rebuild my confidence and self esteem, and my kids needed all my love and attention so I remained single for a long time for fear of inflicting another aggressive bully on them.

Bullies and wife beaters always blame their partners "she provoked me", "she pushed my buttons" blah blah, it's called deflecting the blame for their own vile behaviour and total lack of self awareness and self control. They are not men, just cowardly, pathetic excuses for men.

[Munchkins]

I just can't wait for Conor to leave the house, hopefully to boos and never been seen again:xyxwave:

[Yayita]

Morally bankrupt in every sense of the word nobody really like losers like him.

Ditto for me, no morals at all

[Adamw92]

I loathe these two now, they are an absolute disgrace

[chuff me dizzy]

Right ,did you see that Conor,Arron MADE them sit on the floor ? the days of men giving up seats to women is long gone

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't see how whats happening in there relates to domestic violence at all tbh, Conor made some remarks that where a step too far and since then its just been a case of arguing and bitching between hms who dislike each other, the public are just waiting to pounce on any little thing he says or does, yes he can be nasty as can Arron but people seem to forgot that the hms are being watched constantly by the production team and I think they all also have an individual psychologist linked to them? and I'm pretty sure if they thought there was any signs of domestic violence/abuse or even bullying going on then they would step in.

Oh no ,dont tell me some folk are now turning this into domestic abuse? :shocked: FGS some folk need to get a grip and a life

[joeysteele]

I don't see how whats happening in there relates to domestic violence at all tbh, Conor made some remarks that where a step too far and since then its just been a case of arguing and bitching between hms who dislike each other, the public are just waiting to pounce on any little thing he says or does, yes he can be nasty as can Arron but people seem to forgot that the hms are being watched constantly by the production team and I think they all also have an individual psychologist linked to them? and I'm pretty sure if they thought there was any signs of domestic violence/abuse or even bullying going on then they would step in.

Absolutely right, hallelujah.

It is incredible to me that all faults that occur from some are highlighted and blown up out of all proportion,while the nasty vindictiveness of say Deana and others get glossed over.
Deana has tried to stab Arron in the back and ruin his chances,behind his back too on the show since week one.

The moaning at the girls sitting on the floor, I would have offered them the seat myself, I don't see why that always has to be the case though.
We have bully accusations, they apparantly seem like likely domestic violent candidates, Deana said Arron had no brain in the diary room, that's okay to say that though,were it him saying that about her then the massive condemnation would set in again, the only thing we haven't had yet is that Arron and Conor have likely murdered someone.( or maybe we have).

A gross overreaction on my view and sadly once certain negative descriptions as to like bully and domestic violence abuse are made, some people take that on board as if that is what is happening so use it to hammer a housemate they dislike totally.

My guess would be, love or hate Conor and Arron that in reality in the outside world both would totally abhor and 100% denounce domestic violence against men or women as I most certainly do.
I would not have used such a term in the same sentence as talking about Arron and Conor though,I can see not a scrap of evidence to even indicate it's possibilty as to them either.

[chuff me dizzy]

Is this a poor downtrodden woman or an absolute bitch ? her family must be SO proud "My Father couldnt tell me what to do " next time you think shes a poor fragile ,scared little woman ,re watch this video ,it will give you a reality check


http://www.facebook.com/BigBrotherUK/app_180572305343692?app_data=url_article/video/Day-32-Im-every-woman/

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Edit

Step away from your computers and you idealistic ideas and opinions on people which are always not true.

Arron and conor are just messing around, and you people look far to deep into situations. Seriously Get a ****ing life.

[coolface]

i say this as a man there attitude towards the girls is disgusting they make them sit on the floor then throw lots of vile abuse at them. Arron clearly idolizes Conor and copies everything he does so to me he's just a brain dead sheep but Conor is a real nasty piece of work theres no excuse for the things he says and does he's just a nasty bully that gets a kick out of picking on women i can only hope no woman goes near him when he gets out .

whilst I agree with the rest of your post, why is this a big deal, should the girls automatically get to sit in the chair because they're girls and the boys have to sit on the floor because they're boys? it's like women who expect you to give up your seat on the bus for them because you're a man, doesn't sound like equality to me

[Roy Mars III]

lol

[Yayita]

Domestic violence isnt only physical, don't miss the main point. Emotional and mental abuse can be worst than a punch in the face.

[smeagol]

their families must be so proud lol. everybody wants bullies as sons. must be very uncomfortable viewing for them sometimes. or i hope it is or they are tossers too.

if you dont like a woman there's no need to ridicule belittle bully them and treat them like scum just to make youself seem big which is what arron and connor do regualy. they arn't men they are low lifes who need to try it on a guy and see what happens. but they wont as bullies are cowards and men fight back.
embrassment to everybody they are. even the fans they had. especially arron

[Yayita]

their families must be so proud lol. everybody wants bullies as sons. must be very uncomfortable viewing for them sometimes. or i hope it is or they are tossers too.

if you dont like a woman there's no need to ridicule belittle bully them and treat them like scum just to make youself seem big which is what arron and connor do regualy. they arn't men they are low lifes who need to try it on a guy and see what happens. but they wont as bullies are cowards and men fight back.
embrassment to everybody they are. even the fans they had. especially arron

Well said!

[joeysteele]

whilst I agree with the rest of your post, why is this a big deal, should the girls automatically get to sit in the chair because they're girls and the boys have to sit on the floor because they're boys? it's like women who expect you to give up your seat on the bus for them because you're a man, doesn't sound like equality to me

I agree, it seems it is only wrong and something to get at if men don't give up ther seats,

I am all for equality but mutual respect needs to be there too, these people the 2 guys and the 2 gilrs detest each other.
I pointed out somewhere on here, that I offered my seat to a woman standing on a bus I was on and got,''I am capable of standing''. really polite that was I am sure.

I have seen people get on the bus who are really elderly and women still sitting never moving from the seat to offer it up.

The odd things is also, no one critices the maltesers advert where 2 guys are sleeping on the sofa and the 2 women are sitting on the floor,
that advert is not a world away from preference really, a lot of my female friends rarely sit on the chairs or settee,they prefer to be on the floor.
I generally sprawl out on the floor to watch TV too.It's not that bad a place to be.

My own Mum for instance,loves sitting on the floor, with the dog beside her,it has never been thought or even considered that Becky and Deana likely maybe didn't want to sit close to Arron and Conor and chose to sit there anyway.

[smudgie]

As a parent I would find their behaviour very embarassing, uncouth, foul mouthed and badly behaved in general. Also very immature for their age.

On the same noie I would feel the same way about a couple of the girls in there as well.

[Kizzy]

I agree, it seems it is only wrong and something to get at if men don't give up ther seats,

I am all for equality but mutual respect needs to be there too, these people the 2 guys and the 2 gilrs detest each other.
I pointed out somewhere on here, that I offered my seat to a woman standing on a bus I was on and got,''I am capable of standing''. really polite that was I am sure.

I have seen people get on the bus who are really elderly and women still sitting never moving from the seat to offer it up.

The odd things is also, no one critices the maltesers advert where 2 guys are sleeping on the sofa and the 2 women are sitting on the floor,
that advert is not a world away from preference really, a lot of my female friends rarely sit on the chairs or settee,they prefer to be on the floor.
I generally sprawl out on the floor to watch TV too.It's not that bad a place to be.

My own Mum for instance,loves sitting on the floor, with the dog beside her,it has never been thought or even considered that Becky and Deana likely maybe didn't want to sit close to Arron and Conor and chose to sit there anyway.

Detest each other...why's that then?
As deana said she has never had a convo with conor, so why has he built up this massive dislike for her from?
Arron does change and is polite and chatty to both women when conor isn't around.
He is the instigator of most of the aggression and animosity in the house imo.

[joeysteele]

Detest each other...why's that then?
As deana said she has never had a convo with conor, so why has he built up this massive dislike for her from?
Arron does change and is polite and chatty to both women when conor isn't around.
He is the instigator of most of the aggression and animosity in the house imo.

As Deana said that you point out rightly, she has never had a conversation with Conor, yet when asked by the public who she would evict on friday she answered Conor,???

So she is making her judgements of Conor on what she has seen him do and heard rather than learned for herself, just the same as he has done as to her too, hence the reason they likely detest each other.

[Kizzy]

As Deana said that you point out rightly, she has never had a conversation with Conor, yet when asked by the public who she would evict on friday she answered Conor,???

So she is making her judgements of Conor on what she has seen him do and heard rather than learned for herself, just the same as he has done as to her too, hence the reason they likely detest each other.

Of course she would say conor, if I were a HM and someone suggested they would punch me and shove a brush up my lady garden I would probably want them out too....

[joeysteele]

Of course she would say conor, if I were a HM and someone suggested they would punch me and shove a brush up my lady garden I would probably want them out too....

People on here claim she doesn't know that he said that though.
Anyway, I was totally surprised she didn't say Arron and I actually applaud her for that.

[Angus]

People on here claim she doesn't know that he said that though.
Anyway, I was totally surprised she didn't say Arron and I actually applaud her for that.


She nominated Arron.

[Marcus.]

i would not let the to wemen sit on the floor i would let them sit on the chair and i sit on the floor

[Livia]

Edit

Step away from your computers and you idealistic ideas and opinions on people which are always not true.

Arron and conor are just messing around, and you people look far to deep into situations. Seriously Get a ****ing life.

You understand the concept of this being a BB forum, right?

[Merry Mockmas]

I agree OP, and all I keep hearing about off people is that if this is the new generation of men then im worried about the future, sadly not all of us are like that but it's just vocal twats like Conor that gives young guys a bad name.

[Marcus.]

I agree OP, and all I keep hearing about off people is that if this is the new generation of men then im worried about the future, sadly not all of us are like that but it's just vocal twats like Conor that gives young guys a bad name.

i would not act like them the are really bad i would let the ladies go though first then let them sit down on the chair then i would of sit down

[robb]

Domestic violence isnt only physical, don't miss the main point. Emotional and mental abuse can be worst than a punch in the face.

Forget the sitting on the floor bit. It was the imbecilic behaviour of the two little boys that will mean one of them (pity it isn't both) will get the bullet tonight, me hopes.

[Merry Mockmas]

i would not act like them the are really bad i would let the ladies go though first then let them sit down on the chair then i would of sit down

I've got to be honest but only if I liked the person would I give up a seat for them.:joker:

But I wouldn't make a womans life a living hell, or anyones for that matter.

[Candy Annie Cane]

I wouldn't expect any man to give up their seat for me (although the offer would be nice) so I don't think that is a problem and IMO its pretty sexist for people to say that guys should give up their seat for a woman (we are equals after all) - they are all able bodied and young so as far as I am concerned it would be first come first served on the chair - it would be different if someone was injured / heavily pregnant etc etc but not in these circumstances

[Adamw92]

As Deana said that you point out rightly, she has never had a conversation with Conor, yet when asked by the public who she would evict on friday she answered Conor,???

So she is making her judgements of Conor on what she has seen him do and heard rather than learned for herself, just the same as he has done as to her too, hence the reason they likely detest each other.

AFTER he said she was fake. I would say him too if he'd behaved to me the way he has with her, he's been constantly on her case yet he's never actually had a proper conversation with her.

[Yayita]

Forget the sitting on the floor bit. It was the imbecilic behaviour of the two little boys that will mean one of them (pity it isn't both) will get the bullet tonight, me hopes.

Completely agree, it was despicable!

[fruit_cake]

I don't think they should have to give up automatically their seat because they are men, it's not like Deana and Becky are old and decrepit or anything.

[Holly Christmas]

Absolutely right! I spent 10 years with a guy whose behaviour escalated out of control to the point I woke up one night to find a knife to my throat and only by the grace of god am I still here. That was my tipping point and I left the same day with my kids when he was out of the house. He went from a charming guy to a monster as soon as his ring was on my finger, and it escalated from snide, nasty, derogatory comments and put downs to physical violence. We all walked on eggshells for fear of angering him. His silent rages were terrifying. He would not allow me to see my friends and family without threatening to beat them up, and in those days domestic violence was not taken seriously so I was isolated and friendless. That's what bullies do - isolate to intimidate. It took me years to rebuild my confidence and self esteem, and my kids needed all my love and attention so I remained single for a long time for fear of inflicting another aggressive bully on them.

Bullies and wife beaters always blame their partners "she provoked me", "she pushed my buttons" blah blah, it's called deflecting the blame for their own vile behaviour and total lack of self awareness and self control. They are not men, just cowardly, pathetic excuses for men.

I know it's next to impossible for someone who has had no real dealings with this type of situation in their lives to understand where we are coming from on this topic, so I don't want to be at odds with anyone on the issue, it's good that it can be discussed and awareness raised.

I appreciate that much as Novo disagrees with me on this and thinks I am taking it too seriously (which I again don't want to criticise because I don't expect him to know how much the whole thing has affected my life, tbf) he did come into this thread and listened, which surprised me, and acknowledged that he didn't understand so fair play there.

In response to you Angus, I identify completely with what you say above, and your description of how it is to live with DV. Domestic Violence is to some extent a misnomer (misleadingly named) as it covers everything from verbal abuse, confidence destroying, mind games, and more.

I went through the entire range, stage by stage, from my early to my late twenties, and really feel I lost a huge part of my life (maybe why I still act like I'm in that age range sometimes, rather than 40 something, cough, ahem :laugh:)

Started out with the little criticisms and put downs. When we went round to his parents house he used to sit in the armchair and I had to sit on the floor, which is a big part of why the BB Footage triggered my reactions last night.

Moved on to isolating me slowly from my friends, and even trying to undermine my relationship with my family, they want you completely dependent on them and so you won't challenge what is happening. Very often alcoholism is a huge factor, was in my case, he had to drink all the time, and I lived on my nerves never knowing when he was going to flip.

5 years down the line and here are some examples of things he did.

Would make breakfast and I'd sit at the table, he would then throw mine on the floor, or put salt all over it to make it uneatable, and sit there eating his, smiling.

Once I came in from having spent an hour with a friend chatting over a coffee to find he had rigged up a noose in the living room and said he was going to kill himself because I made his life such a misery, and I would have to live with that.

Towards the end, before I found the strength to leave, he started to bring a knife to bed and would say, that's for if you get on my nerves.

When I was pregnant with my son Josh (I was now 27 years old) he smashed a glass and went for my face, fortunately I put my hands up in reflex, and he was drunk so missed but still cut my hand very badly, I had to have plastic surgery on my left hand, my third finger is scarred, I had to have skin grafted from the inside of my palm to cover the gash.

Those are a few of the lovely things he did, and as he said, it was all my fault for making his life hell, I pushed him to it :bored:

I've been open about the fact I have suffered DV on the forum, but never given any detailed descriptions, so it's a bit draining to do so here. I just want to try and put across how horrific it is, and it does in fact start with the type of behaviour currently happening in the house.

To reiterate, for the people who think Arron and Conor are just acting up, well yes they may well be. I am not and never was implying that they are, or are likely to become abusers, just that what is going on reminds me strongly of things and is uncomfortable to watch.

I do think their behaviour is abhorrent and they are not very nice people, but that is just my opinion and others feel differently, I accept that. It's very telling though, that the vast majority of people are indeed disgusted by said actions.

I'll leave it there.

[Merry Mockmas]

That must have been horrible *Kate*.

I have got to say why would he enter a relationship with you if he just wanted to abuse you though? although I don't think I can ever understand the logic of psychopaths but there you go.

[Candy Annie Cane]

*Kate* , I am quite new on here and thankfully never had to suffer what you have been through and TBH I am one of the people who feel that the Conor/Arron/Deana thing has been blown out of all proportion on here and that Conor whilst not particularly nice was just showing off BUT now having read your post I can now see from your point of view why the things they have been doing would flag to you as early warnings as you have lived through hell....

It must be tough reliving it on here but raising awareness about things like this always helps people understand more so I applaud you for that sincerely
x

[Marcus.]

i would let my becky to sit on the chair and me sit on thefloor or she can sit on my lap

[kistar]

Can I just say as some one who has experienced domestic violence at first hand too ,I don't think we should brand Conor as anything other than a guy on a game show, if you start seeing traits in people on TV that remind you of a person that hurt you emotionally or physically it doesn't mean that person is the same, the perception is yours and if you are focused on seeing those traits before they manifest themselves into the physical , you will perhaps see them where they are not.

[Yayita]

I know it's next to impossible for someone who has had no real dealings with this type of situation in their lives to understand where we are coming from on this topic, so I don't want to be at odds with anyone on the issue, it's good that it can be discussed and awareness raised.

I appreciate that much as Novo disagrees with me on this and thinks I am taking it too seriously (which I again don't want to criticise because I don't expect him to know how much the whole thing has affected my life, tbf) he did come into this thread and listened, which surprised me, and acknowledged that he didn't understand so fair play there.

In response to you Angus, I identify completely with what you say above, and your description of how it is to live with DV. Domestic Violence is to some extent a misnomer (misleadingly named) as it covers everything from verbal abuse, confidence destroying, mind games, and more.

I went through the entire range, stage by stage, from my early to my late twenties, and really feel I lost a huge part of my life (maybe why I still act like I'm in that age range sometimes, rather than 40 something, cough, ahem :laugh:)

Started out with the little criticisms and put downs. When we went round to his parents house he used to sit in the armchair and I had to sit on the floor, which is a big part of why the BB Footage triggered my reactions last night.

Moved on to isolating me slowly from my friends, and even trying to undermine my relationship with my family, they want you completely dependent on them and so you won't challenge what is happening. Very often alcoholism is a huge factor, was in my case, he had to drink all the time, and I lived on my nerves never knowing when he was going to flip.

5 years down the line and here are some examples of things he did.

Would make breakfast and I'd sit at the table, he would then throw mine on the floor, or put salt all over it to make it uneatable, and sit there eating his, smiling.

Once I came in from having spent an hour with a friend chatting over a coffee to find he had rigged up a noose in the living room and said he was going to kill himself because I made his life such a misery, and I would have to live with that.

Towards the end, before I found the strength to leave, he started to bring a knife to bed and would say, that's for if you get on my nerves.

When I was pregnant with my son Josh (I was now 27 years old) he smashed a glass and went for my face, fortunately I put my hands up in reflex, and he was drunk so missed but still cut my hand very badly, I had to have plastic surgery on my left hand, my third finger is scarred, I had to have skin grafted from the inside of my palm to cover the gash.

Those are a few of the lovely things he did, and as he said, it was all my fault for making his life hell, I pushed him to it :bored:

I've been open about the fact I have suffered DV on the forum, but never given any detailed descriptions, so it's a bit draining to do so here. I just want to try and put across how horrific it is, and it does in fact start with the type of behaviour currently happening in the house.

To reiterate, for the people who think Arron and Conor are just acting up, well yes they may well be. I am not and never was implying that they are, or are likely to become abusers, just that what is going on reminds me strongly of things and is uncomfortable to watch.

I do think their behaviour is abhorrent and they are not very nice people, but that is just my opinion and others feel differently, I accept that. It's very telling though, that the vast majority of people are indeed disgusted by said actions.

I'll leave it there.

Kate and Angus,
You are 2 very couragious women, I applaud you for being strong enough to leave the situation as many women do not and many are killed by their partners. It is not easy to stand up and speak about that, but I hope that it serves to help anyone in that situation. Thanks for sharing that very personal part of your lives. You did the right thing for your children I hope they are grown and beautiful good people.

[Kizzy]

What a lovely thing to say, two amazing women. And two of the nicest people on this forum :hug:

[Angus]

I know it's next to impossible for someone who has had no real dealings with this type of situation in their lives to understand where we are coming from on this topic, so I don't want to be at odds with anyone on the issue, it's good that it can be discussed and awareness raised.

I appreciate that much as Novo disagrees with me on this and thinks I am taking it too seriously (which I again don't want to criticise because I don't expect him to know how much the whole thing has affected my life, tbf) he did come into this thread and listened, which surprised me, and acknowledged that he didn't understand so fair play there.

In response to you Angus, I identify completely with what you say above, and your description of how it is to live with DV. Domestic Violence is to some extent a misnomer (misleadingly named) as it covers everything from verbal abuse, confidence destroying, mind games, and more.

I went through the entire range, stage by stage, from my early to my late twenties, and really feel I lost a huge part of my life (maybe why I still act like I'm in that age range sometimes, rather than 40 something, cough, ahem :laugh:)

Started out with the little criticisms and put downs. When we went round to his parents house he used to sit in the armchair and I had to sit on the floor, which is a big part of why the BB Footage triggered my reactions last night.

Moved on to isolating me slowly from my friends, and even trying to undermine my relationship with my family, they want you completely dependent on them and so you won't challenge what is happening. Very often alcoholism is a huge factor, was in my case, he had to drink all the time, and I lived on my nerves never knowing when he was going to flip.

5 years down the line and here are some examples of things he did.

Would make breakfast and I'd sit at the table, he would then throw mine on the floor, or put salt all over it to make it uneatable, and sit there eating his, smiling.

Once I came in from having spent an hour with a friend chatting over a coffee to find he had rigged up a noose in the living room and said he was going to kill himself because I made his life such a misery, and I would have to live with that.

Towards the end, before I found the strength to leave, he started to bring a knife to bed and would say, that's for if you get on my nerves.

When I was pregnant with my son Josh (I was now 27 years old) he smashed a glass and went for my face, fortunately I put my hands up in reflex, and he was drunk so missed but still cut my hand very badly, I had to have plastic surgery on my left hand, my third finger is scarred, I had to have skin grafted from the inside of my palm to cover the gash.

Those are a few of the lovely things he did, and as he said, it was all my fault for making his life hell, I pushed him to it :bored:

I've been open about the fact I have suffered DV on the forum, but never given any detailed descriptions, so it's a bit draining to do so here. I just want to try and put across how horrific it is, and it does in fact start with the type of behaviour currently happening in the house.

To reiterate, for the people who think Arron and Conor are just acting up, well yes they may well be. I am not and never was implying that they are, or are likely to become abusers, just that what is going on reminds me strongly of things and is uncomfortable to watch.

I do think their behaviour is abhorrent and they are not very nice people, but that is just my opinion and others feel differently, I accept that. It's very telling though, that the vast majority of people are indeed disgusted by said actions.

I'll leave it there.

I guess you have to have lived through it to fully empathise, and I do:hug: I can barely remember the scared downtrodden woman that I was. Like you I've refused to be a victim ever again:blush: