No point having straight men in BB again

[rinkydinkpanther]

the majority of british women hate straight men, the bbbots crowd only like gay men or fellow women, no one sees the male point of view at all....if they do theyre called misogynous....lauren says all young men are all liars, no one bats an eye, shiv and ash mock adams body, no one says a thing, deana badgers conor as to why he criticised her, he explains she cant accept and keeps the argument going and says she cant understand a word he says, no one says a word, ash plays with luke s feelings and says its meaningless yet no one says a word, scott behaves like a petulant nasty child and gets abusive, but hes gay so we accpet it, we are all very tolerant of everything all the women and the gay man says and does.....but the men? 1 throwawy line in 5 weeks of 24 hour coverage and he gets crucified

there will never be an alpha male winner again, theres no point them even being there, just get women and gay people and let them carry on....I just watched this week a supposedly serious political show, some failed stockbroker (female) in her mid 20s has just sold a book made a few millions (sold to the majority of women buyers) stating that the credit crash like all the wars is all the fault of men....she fails to notice theres way more women in banking in services and in newspaper rooms than ever before , so too the police and parliament and has corruption dropped? nah...its greed its self interest its lack of morals lack of integrity, the vast majority of female mps voted for the iraq war...blaming men for all the worlds ills is the most hateful simplistic drivel that i destroying big brother, families, and society itself.

I pity the radical people who follow radical agendas whether its radical religious zealots or radical feminists, their so full of hate and bile and its all based on such a perverted understanding of history and the world,,,its sad to see big brother go down the toilet the same way

[hideki]

Lots of misandry in the show now. eg: A real man wouldn't do that" Don't like it one bit. Misogyny isn't any better either. Can't we all just get along?

[Bluerang1]

We loved Chris.

[rinkydinkpanther]

Lots of misandry in the show now. eg: A real man wouldn't do that" Don't like it one bit. Misogyny isn't any better either. Can't we all just get along?

sadly no...british women hate british men theyre so ignorant they think british men are responsible for all evil...until the country actually redresses the balance and the show too, then this utter drivel of a show will continue to fall down the plug hole, ratings too will fall even further as we dumb it down by playing to a purely female and gay agenda

[JTM45]

Why are you watching the show and posting on a Big Brother forum if you hate it so much ?

[Donovan.]

Why are you watching the show and posting on a Big Brother forum if you hate it so much ?

[2]

[jet]

the majority of british women hate straight men, the bbbots crowd only like gay men or fellow women, no one sees the male point of view at all....if they do theyre called misogynous....lauren says all young men are all liars, no one bats an eye, shiv and ash mock adams body, no one says a thing, deana badgers conor as to why he criticised her, he explains she cant accept and keeps the argument going and says she cant understand a word he says, no one says a word, ash plays with luke s feelings and says its meaningless yet no one says a word, scott behaves like a petulant nasty child and gets abusive, but hes gay so we accpet it, we are all very tolerant of everything all the women and the gay man says and does.....but the men? 1 throwawy line in 5 weeks of 24 hour coverage and he gets crucified

there will never be an alpha male winner again, theres no point them even being there, just get women and gay people and let them carry on....I just watched this week a supposedly serious political show, some failed stockbroker (female) in her mid 20s has just sold a book made a few millions (sold to the majority of women buyers) stating that the credit crash like all the wars is all the fault of men....she fails to notice theres way more women in banking in services and in newspaper rooms than ever before , so too the police and parliament and has corruption dropped? nah...its greed its self interest its lack of morals lack of integrity, the vast majority of female mps voted for the iraq war...blaming men for all the worlds ills is the most hateful simplistic drivel that i destroying big brother, families, and society itself.

I pity the radical people who follow radical agendas whether its radical religious zealots or radical feminists, their so full of hate and bile and its all based on such a perverted understanding of history and the world,,,its sad to see big brother go down the toilet the same way

No, they just hate insensitive, brutish, cocky men like Conor or self loving smarmy posers like Luke S. There are many decent, honest men who are not hated by women...far from it...you seem to have a real bee in your bonnet about this - and it's just not true or realistic.

[ElProximo]

A great point was made here:
There isn't an eye fluttered when 'misandry' goes on and here is an example:

"No, they just hate insensitive, brutish, cocky men like Conor or self loving smarmy posers like Luke S"

In the UK, there is no reason why some of us shouldn't phone the police and report jet for mean, hateful, personal insults posted about a HM here at TIBB.
The police have every right to show up at Jet's house and take them (by force if necessary) and charge them with a criminal offense.

But I have a complaint (hopefully I'm not arrested for saying 'mean things' about the show) but they are trying to hard to find 'Alpha Males'.
This seems an obsession that carried on from C4 to 5. They desperately WANT to find 'Alpha males', try every trick to blow it up, always comment on who is the 'Alpha male' etc.
Brits (as a rule) are not like Americans or Middle Easterner cultures where they are obsessed with 1. Having a 'Top Dog' 2. Assuming someone must be the Top Dog 3. have bitchy man pee contests.

And in case anyone is wondering - It is one single Female who is the 'Alpha' in wolfpacks.
I'm told this 'Female Alpha' is the same in other animal groups too.
A lot of us humans do not need to have an 'Alpha Male' and most real men see that as a 'small' or 'less manly' characteristic.

oh snap.. I hope I dont get arrested for these opinions.

[jet]

A great point was made here:
There isn't an eye fluttered when 'misandry' goes on and here is an example:

"No, they just hate insensitive, brutish, cocky men like Conor or self loving smarmy posers like Luke S"

In the UK, there is no reason why some of us shouldn't phone the police and report jet for mean, hateful, personal insults posted about a HM here at TIBB.
The police have every right to show up at Jet's house and take them (by force if necessary) and charge them with a criminal offense.

But I have a complaint (hopefully I'm not arrested for saying 'mean things' about the show) but they are trying to hard to find 'Alpha Males'.
This seems an obsession that carried on from C4 to 5. They desperately WANT to find 'Alpha males', try every trick to blow it up, always comment on who is the 'Alpha male' etc.
Brits (as a rule) are not like Americans or Middle Easterner cultures where they are obsessed with 1. Having a 'Top Dog' 2. Assuming someone must be the Top Dog 3. have bitchy man pee contests.

And in case anyone is wondering - It is one single Female who is the 'Alpha' in wolfpacks.
I'm told this 'Female Alpha' is the same in other animal groups too.
A lot of us humans do not need to have an 'Alpha Male' and most real men see that as a 'small' or 'less manly' characteristic.

oh snap.. I hope I dont get arrested for these opinions.

Me and hundreds/thousands of other people. :laugh:
The difference is, the people on BB have voluntarily put themselves in the spotlight and to be wide open for criticism or praise, whichever the case may be. They know the score and are not innocent victims. So your point there is null and void. :nono:

[jyunga]

It's a tv show. They want men and women that will end up causing drama. That's why the casts are all young and they give them alcohol every night.

[Shaun]

there will never be an alpha male winner again

did you miss Aaron? and Paddy Doherty?

stop trying to make heterosexual men out to be victims. They really ****ing aren't.

[billy123]

Has anybody else started to notice the difference between the traditional BB audience/forum user and C5's new "target audience" that seems to have started arriving? or is it just me? :joker:
I feared and predicted the C5 Jeremy kyle style effect would take its toll.

[jyunga]

I'd wager men have it easier once they get outta the BB house then some of the women do.

[ElProximo]

Me and hundreds/thousands of other people. :laugh:
The difference is, the people on BB have voluntarily put themselves in the spotlight and to be wide open for criticism or praise, whichever the case may be. They know the score and are not innocent victims. So your point there is null and void. :nono:

But the people actually physically arrested for saying 'really mean things' on their Twitter accounts said them of those very public figures.

So, they voluntarily put themselves in the spotlight wide open for criticism and praise and as you determine them 'asking for it' or 'not innocent' (a little guilty).

So my point stands.
Meanwhile, be careful what really mean thoughts you write down on this forum - someone may have police come to your door and physically arrest you, charge you with an actual criminal offense.
For saying 'mean things' about public figures.

[Yayita]

Wow, youve really taken this too far, I dont see it as women hating straight men at all. The fact is that women have come a long way in the last 20 years and realize that we have a right to voice our opinion. We dont have to bow our heads and let the white straight men take charge. Many women come from broken families with abusive male figures, some have experienced abuse first hand and as we become adults we know what we dont want and in todays society we are free to express ourselves. This means that we are gonna make it clear that abuse or anything we consider negative in any way shape or form is not to be tolerated, even on a gameshow because it sets a bad example for the young people watching.

Rinky, you should not look at it as an attack on straight men; it is in reality an attack against men with negative characteristics. We want good men to raise our families with, men that set good examples and in some form it is the new natural selection, you all know that the woman is the one that chooses, what has changed today is what we are willing to accept.

In the past women had to stay in toxic relationships, we don't have to anylonger, women also looked for alpha men as it was a sign of ambition and that of a good provider, this isnt the case anymore.. things have canged alot and men have also improved alot to be honest. When I compare men today with my dads generation, they are completely different and more evolved.

Just keep evolving and you will have no problems at all.

[CallumJoshuaSturt]

I understand what you are saying, and agree. However, you expressed yourself on a way too deep level

[ElProximo]

One of the problems is that men tend to stay in abusive relationships. In the past, they would even be far too 'embarrassed' to report abuse (due to society pressures and biases) but in the case of psychological abuse (arguably as bad in its own way) men tend to believe they should just 'take it' and 'learn to live with it'.
As if they were somehow 'being a man' by living with the psychologically and emotionally abusive wife.
Sadly, we see things haven't quite changed enough. It still goes on and just take a look at BB as a kind of 'microcosm'.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Straight Male BB Winners - 6
Straight Female BB Winners - 4
Gay Male BB Winners - 1
Transgender BB winners - 1
Gay Female BB Winners - 0

Just Sayin'

[JTM45]

Straight Male BB Winners - 6
Straight Female BB Winners - 4
Gay Male BB Winners - 1
Transgender BB winners - 1
Gay Female BB Winners - 0

Just Sayin'

Thank God someone's talking sense in this thread :thumbs:

[Black Dagger]

Niamh :lovedup:

But yeah, this thread is pathetic, people don't like Conor and Arron because they are bellends, not because they have an undying love for vagina. tit. :idc:

[thesheriff443]

Straight Male BB Winners - 6
Straight Female BB Winners - 4
Gay Male BB Winners - 1
Transgender BB winners - 1
Gay Female BB Winners - 0

Just Sayin'

well aaron was 70 per cent lady but i will let you off:joker:

[KingOfTheMods]

I'm a British male and I don't feel hated by my countrywomen. We love each other. Often three times a night.

[Yayita]

Straight Male BB Winners - 6
Straight Female BB Winners - 4
Gay Male BB Winners - 1
Transgender BB winners - 1
Gay Female BB Winners - 0

Just Sayin'

The facts always shine through better than argument

[kistar]

I really like men .... like really really.:hugesmile:

[Yayita]

I really like men .... like really really.:hugesmile:

LOL, me too.. I love men, REAL MEN, wel spoken, educated gentlemen. I don't like macho, abusive immature and bullying riff raff

[Barf_andotherthings]

Arron and Conor have scorn thrown at them because they are nasty, thoughtless bullies. They do not represent the entire straight male demographic of the uk, neither does the public's hatred (? or not- apparently they have some large fan bases for some inexplicable reason) for them represent some kind of widespread cultural misandry.

I judge people by their personal attributes whatever sex they are. I thought Benedict was fab, because he was a nice guy.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Arron and Conor have scorn thrown at them because they are nasty, thoughtless bullies. They do not represent the entire straight male demographic of the uk, neither does the public's hatred (? or not- apparently they have some large fan bases for some inexplicable reason) for them represent some kind of widespread cultural misandry.

I judge people by their personal attributes whatever sex they are. I thought Benedict was fab, because he was a nice guy.

Well said.

[flamingGalah!]

did you miss Aaron? and Paddy Doherty?

stop trying to make heterosexual men out to be victims. They really ****ing aren't.

THIS

I wish the OP would stop clogging up the forum with this ridiculous & repetative sh*t... :sleep:

[Livia]

the majority of british women hate straight men.... etc. etc,. etc.

I think the majority of women love straight men... but don't like whiners.

[Merry Mockmas]

Im a straight guy and i've got to say this is some of the weirdest **** i've ever read, straight guys get it way easier on BB than women do, admittedly I agree with you that gay guys get it easier on BB than any other sexuality like Mario BB11 took until he was sitting on guys laps naked for the public to realise that he was a bit creepy to say the least.

[thesheriff443]

its swings and roundabouts

[fruit_cake]

Wasn't this the same poster who was saying Benedict and Chris didn't count as proper straight man? He(She) seems to pick and choose the men at will to suit his(her) arguments frankly.

[Merry Mockmas]

Crimson Chris was awesome, shame on you OP lol.

[JTM45]

Yeah, it was like a bloody loony bin in here in the early hours of this morning!
Some of the most ridiculous threads i've ever seen posted on a BB forum ever.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Wasn't this the same poster who was saying Benedict and Chris didn't count as proper straight man? He(She) seems to pick and choose the men at will to suit his(her) arguments frankly.

So it's not actually about straight men at all, it's about a certain type of straight man? hardly sexist at all then tbh

[fruit_cake]

So it's not actually about straight men at all, it's about a certain type of straight man? hardly sexist at all then tbh

that certainly does appear to be the case

[ElProximo]

Straight Male BB Winners - 6
Straight Female BB Winners - 4
Gay Male BB Winners - 1
Transgender BB winners - 1
Gay Female BB Winners - 0

Just Sayin'

You are just saying that there is a highly disproportionate number of 'LGBT' winners.
A group making up between 1-3% of the general population is walking away with something like 20% of the top prizes?

I could give a random difference on the heterosexual men/women ration since its a difference of just 1

*If we just look at LGBT Males to heterosexual males then we have an even greater disproportion with the LGBT basically winning something like 10 X more often than their hetero counterparts.
What's up with that?

[Indy]

So it's not actually about straight men at all, it's about a certain type of straight man? hardly sexist at all then tbh

Specifically, the Arron type, or occasionally the Conor type when it's convenient to the argument.

[flamingGalah!]

You are just saying that there is a highly disproportionate number of 'LGBT' winners.
A group making up between 1-3% of the general population is walking away with something like 20% of the top prizes?

I could give a random difference on the heterosexual men/women ration since its a difference of just 1

*If we just look at LGBT Males to heterosexual males then we have an even greater disproportion with the LGBT basically winning something like 10 X more often than their hetero counterparts.
What's up with that?

Nothing at all is up with that, you simply have a problem with it... :sleep:

[ElProximo]

Nothing at all is up with that, you simply have a problem with it... :sleep:

You are going to need to start replying to my posts with some kind of coherent response, introduce a new idea, speak to something relevant to the topic or make a what we call a:
meaningful statement.

Also, do you think this --> :sleep: means something to me, to you or to anyone else?

[flamingGalah!]

You are going to need to start replying to my posts with some kind of coherent response, introduce a new idea, speak to something relevant to the topic or make a what we call a:
meaningful statement.

Also, do you think this --> :sleep: means something to me, to you or to anyone else?

It was perfectly coherent... The :sleep: of course means you are boring me with your usual bigotry... :xyxwave:

[MrWong]

But the people actually physically arrested for saying 'really mean things' on their Twitter accounts said them of those very public figures.

So, they voluntarily put themselves in the spotlight wide open for criticism and praise and as you determine them 'asking for it' or 'not innocent' (a little guilty).

So my point stands.
Meanwhile, be careful what really mean thoughts you write down on this forum - someone may have police come to your door and physically arrest you, charge you with an actual criminal offense.
For saying 'mean things' about public figures.

I've heard cases of Twitter arrests for things like racism, death threats and revealing rape victims names but for saying mean things? :conf:

Do you have any links to that?

[emmetmcl]

the majority of british women hate straight men, the bbbots crowd only like gay men or fellow women, no one sees the male point of view at all....if they do theyre called misogynous....lauren says all young men are all liars, no one bats an eye, shiv and ash mock adams body, no one says a thing, deana badgers conor as to why he criticised her, he explains she cant accept and keeps the argument going and says she cant understand a word he says, no one says a word, ash plays with luke s feelings and says its meaningless yet no one says a word, scott behaves like a petulant nasty child and gets abusive, but hes gay so we accpet it, we are all very tolerant of everything all the women and the gay man says and does.....but the men? 1 throwawy line in 5 weeks of 24 hour coverage and he gets crucified

there will never be an alpha male winner again, theres no point them even being there, just get women and gay people and let them carry on....I just watched this week a supposedly serious political show, some failed stockbroker (female) in her mid 20s has just sold a book made a few millions (sold to the majority of women buyers) stating that the credit crash like all the wars is all the fault of men....she fails to notice theres way more women in banking in services and in newspaper rooms than ever before , so too the police and parliament and has corruption dropped? nah...its greed its self interest its lack of morals lack of integrity, the vast majority of female mps voted for the iraq war...blaming men for all the worlds ills is the most hateful simplistic drivel that i destroying big brother, families, and society itself.

I pity the radical people who follow radical agendas whether its radical religious zealots or radical feminists, their so full of hate and bile and its all based on such a perverted understanding of history and the world,,,its sad to see big brother go down the toilet the same way

Aaron? Paddy?

[Shaun]

You are just saying that there is a highly disproportionate number of 'LGBT' winners.
A group making up between 1-3% of the general population is walking away with something like 20% of the top prizes?

maybe when we've had 90 series we can even out that 'injustice', babe

[Vicky.]

Im sure the 1-3% proportion of uk residents being gay/bi/trans/whatever, isnt right. Thats like 1/33 or something. I swear at least 1/10 people I know are gay or bi. Granted I know no transgender people though

[Carniala]

Wow, youve really taken this too far, I dont see it as women hating straight men at all. The fact is that women have come a long way in the last 20 years and realize that we have a right to voice our opinion. We dont have to bow our heads and let the white straight men take charge. Many women come from broken families with abusive male figures, some have experienced abuse first hand and as we become adults we know what we dont want and in todays society we are free to express ourselves. This means that we are gonna make it clear that abuse or anything we consider negative in any way shape or form is not to be tolerated, even on a gameshow because it sets a bad example for the young people watching.

Rinky, you should not look at it as an attack on straight men; it is in reality an attack against men with negative characteristics. We want good men to raise our families with, men that set good examples and in some form it is the new natural selection, you all know that the woman is the one that chooses, what has changed today is what we are willing to accept.

In the past women had to stay in toxic relationships, we don't have to anylonger, women also looked for alpha men as it was a sign of ambition and that of a good provider, this isnt the case anymore.. things have canged alot and men have also improved alot to be honest. When I compare men today with my dads generation, they are completely different and more evolved.

Just keep evolving and you will have no problems at all.

I do not want to start a debate but it is a very misandrist culture today, also the so called positive discrimination to give jobs to women and not based on actual best candidate, or He probably deserved it that we ear as an automatic, or BTW according to statistics as many kids witness violence against their father in the house as they do against their mother, and not just in the UK but Canada, USA, Australia as well.

So the whole violence thing is a Myth in a sense that it does exist for women but for men just as well, and do not say that only men attack men, it is not true, the worst type of offenders in domestic violence are women against women, then Women against men, because men are afraid of defending themselves by fear of being arrested and women do not fear that since they wont be, than Women against children, than in lesser number Men against women and men and children.

Women in western society have a sense of entitlement and know that most of the time, the vast majority will side with them saying " he deserved it" even if they have no clue as to what happened.

A good example that went flying by yesterday, was Arron was mad at Becky for the way she acted towards him when she talked about him, but mostly the way she acted in the Scott speech, she was very vindictive and nasty, laughing and adding to the insults, Arron was right behind her and saw and heard everything, he was fuming.

When he exploded in the diary room, he did mention that fact that she had been nasty to him and he had the right to give it back, Becky just brushed it off by being her, then he fingered her.

Later in the Bedroom he said the same thing, but she was not listening to him, she was being too loud.

Meanwhile what the audience, the bbots panelist and it seems a lot of people here seems to only focus on is, what he said but excluding and voiding all the reasons why, and that is because men's opinion is not relevant to society, A guy as to be a gentleman all the time to a woman, even if she had been extremely nasty to him, and he is by default always guilty no mater what he said r not, and women are NEVER responsible for any of their behavior, it is de facto accepted that a girl can throw a mug at a guys face (Deana in the bedroom, after Arron and spayed her with a little water, watch the video, and you can see it flying by and hear it hit the floor too) or hit him and get away with it. But if a guy says anything back at her right after an argument, he is in the wrong.

just a thought, for some reflection, I understand that women will not see that since it does not affect them at all and they simply do not care. But take a step back, at work, on TV, or just around you, and observe how people react, hence just watch last night show and the ones before and see it with that in mind.

Luke S has done nothing to Luke A, but Luke a does not give him any chance, according to the public, he is right, does anyone think that maybe it would be also his fault for not even ever talking to Luke S and saying that he wants to do the shopping, why is it only Luke S''s responsibility, and never anyone else.

Also, why is it Luke S stringing along or being fake to Ashleigh and not the other way around, when as the public we know she had second thoughts, but it was never shown he had any second thoughts, the same why is Dena accusing Luke S but not Ashleigh, when she even think she wants or has a flirt with Connor in the bathroom?

The reason she is a girl, then she hold the truth no matter what, Luke S is a fit guy, so he is automatically nasty, playing a game, plotting and being dishonest.

Anyway, just a reflection.