Master manipulator of sympathy, the 3 stage approach

[sampvt]

After watching tonights argument it was like watching a craftsman at work. Deana started it by posing a searching question she knew would gain a virile response and she had the coolness scripted to a tee fullwell knowing Shiv would bite.

Stage 1 get the argument under way and keep your cool to make you look smart.

Stage 2 Make the end result look like she was beaten up by a virlie monster.

Stage 3 Retire to the bedroom and cry and invite hugs to solidify the crown of the most picked upon and misunderstood Hm.

Pure brilliance in action. This girl will win this series and milk this whole underdog thing all the way to the bank. I used to hate her, but now I love her because she is on another level of intelligence to these other muppets.

She is a perfect replica of Bea with 10 times more intelligence. Its easy to see why she dosent cook, clean or do her own washing and have servants, she gets her own way whichever and however method she chooses. Hats off.

[sarakss]

I find Deana also manipulative and that's fine, but I hate those 'poor me' types. I'd rather have Caroline win over Deana - pity got Deana this far and it's time we send her packing.
Even her stories are dumb.... and I silly rant about not having a man tell her what to do? Take your daddy issues somewhere - this is Big Brother, not Dr. Phil.

[sampvt]

She is playing the victim to death and has such a low opinion of everyone around her. Sounds to me like she has been brought up wrapped in cotton wool and in a male dominated enviroment with zero male love. Real mammy,s girl and dare I say it. she is an extreme sexist.

[Donovan.]

Pretty sure Shievonne started that argument with "yeah, but it's true though," but whatever floats your boats.

[Doogle]

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You people over-analyse too much. She's in a house 24/7 with people she dislikes, she's taken a lot of crap, she isn't good enough or strong enough to be thinking like that in my opinion.

[lostalex]

I don't think Deana is manipulative at all, she's only responded to attacks against her. How is that manipulative?

[sampvt]

Pretty sure Shievonne started that argument with "yeah, but it's true though," but whatever floats your boats.

That was the response she solicitated in order to make the argument flow. There is nothing straight about Deana. Even the way she cons people to trust and like her.

[Donovan.]

That was the response she solicitated in order to make the argument flow. There is nothing straight about Deana. Even the way she cons people to trust and like her.

Sure Shievonne said that first, but Deana definetly solicitated it. Must have been mind control. The manipulator strikes again.

[Rustic bauble]

She is milking the 'victim' role. Her accusations are coming from nothing.... I hope it backfires on her. She has friends in that house but she warms to no-one....she is cold and calculating and would back stab anyone at the first opportunity if it suited her.

[lostalex]

i like Deana so i know she must be hated by the British public. At this point i'm used to the British public doing the exact opposite of what i think should be done.

[armand.kay]

Lol something else we are going to blame on deana :idc:. This is getting boring now .:sleep:

[Mesene]

Deana was arguing with Conor whilst Shiv was seething at being nominated by Deana so she jumped in tje moddle or Conor and Deana and made it all about Shiv.

The thread starter thinks they are smarter than they are. Shiv clearly started it. Bang goes this theory and thread.

****, its not just been posted. It's in Pat's van on the way to be delivered.

[sampvt]

i like Deana so i know she must be hated by the British public. At this point i'm used to the British public doing the exact opposite of what i think should be done.

I also lime her but the evidence is there for all to see. She will run out of sympathy petrol soon and bang, she will burn herself. Her type cant mix it, they need to live on the victim card scenario to get what they want.

My old dad once said, would you ever shun a wet, cold, hungry and unhealthy looking cat in the dead of winter meowing at your door. Answer no. Would you think the same if it was summer, the cat was fit and healthy and meowing, answer wheres my gun. They are both cats son.

There are 2 women in that house that are bitches in the making and will out themselves soon. Sara and Deana. Both extremely clever manipulators and both passive aggressives.

[Shaun]

Shievonne, the housemate that bragged to the others about how it was her birthday and she was in the diary room earlier that day crying over the Adam thing, so it'd make him look bad... and yet Deana's playing the sympathy card? Hahahahaha

[sampvt]

Deana was arguing with Conor whilst Shiv was seething at being nominated by Deana so she jumped in tje moddle or Conor and Deana and made it all about Shiv.

The thread starter thinks they are smarter than they are. Shiv clearly started it. Bang goes this theory and thread.

****, its not just been posted. It's in Pat's van on the way to be delivered.

First post eh, figures.

[flamingGalah!]

Erm Deana replied to a comment made by Shievonne... Shievonne then was the one going at Deana like a wailing banshee, getting all aggressive & argumentative...

[fitz2k2]

leave my wife alone!

[EzzaB]

Everyone's manipulative in the house! That's just how it is in there. However I don't think Deana should be perceived as being manipulative just because she's standing up for herself to people who are quite aggressive and idiotic compared to her i.e. Conor and Shev.

[Mesene]

First post eh, figures.

what did u figure out einstein? care to share it with us conor and ash types?

[Jords]

Boring, next thread.

[rinkydinkpanther]

After watching tonights argument it was like watching a craftsman at work. Deana started it by posing a searching question she knew would gain a virile response and she had the coolness scripted to a tee fullwell knowing Shiv would bite.

Stage 1 get the argument under way and keep your cool to make you look smart.

Stage 2 Make the end result look like she was beaten up by a virlie monster.

Stage 3 Retire to the bedroom and cry and invite hugs to solidify the crown of the most picked upon and misunderstood Hm.

Pure brilliance in action. This girl will win this series and milk this whole underdog thing all the way to the bank. I used to hate her, but now I love her because she is on another level of intelligence to these other muppets.

She is a perfect replica of Bea with 10 times more intelligence. Its easy to see why she dosent cook, clean or do her own washing and have servants, she gets her own way whichever and however method she chooses. Hats off.

she is playing a dangerous game now and getting sloppy....this may not be enough to win unless she provokes someone into abusing her verbally which is her only chance to win the show....self pity usually wins the crown

if she asks the wrong person whats your problem she may get a full and detailed account off a more intelligent housemate like luke a or deana or even luke s or caroline

she has gotten away with it with connor and shiv as frankly they dont use their brains....maybe she is clever enough to have picked them out as weak as she did arron who she destroyed when he didnt even realise it

others may remmeber how deana carried stories back and forth to create argument and division...saldy no one has been smart enough to use that, she has been smart in going after the mentally weaker people

[coolface]

she is sneaky, I also get the impression she thinks she's a lot hotter than she actually is

[rinkydinkpanther]

she is sneaky

very sneaky...to think people though lydia was clever, lydia was the worst game plater in bb history i mean her stupidity was phenomenal...she had no camouflage or charm nothing....but deana oh deana deana shes innocent sweet little indian princess right? right? see how nasty she gets tomorrow when she finally gets an answer to her question what have i done wrong....shiv says shes getting the self pity off people, deana goes nuts...:dance: dangerous

[ChristmasNeeve]

It seems people just aren't used to seeing a classy woman who doesn't need to shout and rant and rave in arguments.

[JTM45]

There are 2 women in that house that are bitches in the making and will out themselves soon. Sara and Deana. Both extremely clever manipulators and both passive aggressives.

You're posts are getting more ****ing ridiculous by the hour!
They're the only two women in the house that aren't bitches :nono:

Posts like yours probably belong in the Conor Fan-Club thread (or in the bin):joker:

[Ellen]

Classy women who dont shout, rant or rave can still be manipulators, they just hide it better.

[Jords]

So how is Deana being manipulative?

Shes been picked on since shes entered and been up for eviction twice............................................. .. deary me.

[Mesene]

Classy women who dont shout, rant or rave can still be manipulators, they just hide it better.

Yes, yes all women are manipulators.

Either they're skanks like Ash, bullies like Shiv, prick teases like Lauren or classy manipulators like Deana and Sara.

Sounds like something Conor would say!!

[Jords]

Yes, yes all women are manipulators.

Either they're skanks like Ash, bullies like Shiv, prick teases like Lauren or classy manipulators like Deana and Sara.

Sounds like something Conor would say!!

Considering his noms have all be women probably true! heck is gf is probably a man in good drag.

[sampvt]

Yes, yes all women are manipulators.

Either they're skanks like Ash, bullies like Shiv, prick teases like Lauren or classy manipulators like Deana and Sara.

Sounds like something Conor would say!!

4 posts and allready you are bursting a blood vessel. Take a happy pill and cool down. Its a game and this is a place for us to discuss that game, it isnt Irac. Deana is a manipulative player who uses passive aggression to overcome her targets and her gameplan is working. Please dont cherry pick my posts and ask me to explain parts of them, it gets tediously boring. Offer reasons why I am wrong and I will respond. By the way welcome to the forum. I am sure your comments will make it all the livelier.

[wendywillow]

deana deserves credit for not cracking up at the "check yourself wreck yourself line" did shiev teleport from 1992?

[Ellen]

deana deserves credit for not cracking up at the "check yourself wreck yourself line" did shiev teleport from 1992?

:joker:

[Patricia4]

Deana is a just the same has the rest of them and she is such a sad person if nothing goes her way your right sampvt its a game and we all have our favorites.

[Mesene]

4 posts and allready you are bursting a blood vessel. Take a happy pill and cool down. Its a game and this is a place for us to discuss that game, it isnt Irac. Deana is a manipulative player who uses passive aggression to overcome her targets and her gameplan is working. Please dont cherry pick my posts and ask me to explain parts of them, it gets tediously boring. Offer reasons why I am wrong and I will respond. By the way welcome to the forum. I am sure your comments will make it all the livelier.

bursting a blood vessel? take a happy pill? cool down? It's a game? It isn't Irac (wherever that is).

you seem quite wound up, everything ok?

[sampvt]

bursting a blood vessel? take a happy pill? cool down? It's a game? It isn't Irac (wherever that is).

you seem quite wound up, everything ok?

Couldnt be better actually. Hope you are in the pink too. Whos your fav.

[Mesene]

Couldnt be better actually. Hope you are in the pink too. Whos your fav.

I dont really have a favourite. I dont really care who wins as long as it's not Conor or Caroline

[robb]

[QUOTE=Donovan81996;5291665]Pretty sure Shievonne started that argument with "yeah, but it's true though," but whatever floats your boats.[/QUOTE

Odd thing is.....isn't that shievonne and sara hugging deana straight after being saved? :conf:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

4 posts and allready you are bursting a blood vessel. Take a happy pill and cool down. Its a game and this is a place for us to discuss that game, it isnt Irac. Deana is a manipulative player who uses passive aggression to overcome her targets and her gameplan is working. Please dont cherry pick my posts and ask me to explain parts of them, it gets tediously boring. Offer reasons why I am wrong and I will respond. By the way welcome to the forum. I am sure your comments will make it all the livelier.

Finally someone who isn't fooled by Deana sly and manipulative ways! I thought i was the only one to notice her gameplan! :amazed::worship:

[optimisticcynic]

SamPVT,
I'm beginning to suspect that your posts do not represent your view but are planted to provoke response. You switch between articulate though provocative discourse in the beginning which encourages reply to balance opinion, and then outright vitriol when the embers of debate are dying just to keep the outrage going. Is this aimed at mustering support for the individual you are seemingly attacking or are you, like most of us on here, just bored? Who in their right mind blames a victim for cleverly masterminding their ordeal? I'd hate for you to be on the jury of a rape case if this thread is genuine.

[Mesene]

hate for you to be on the jury of a rape case if this thread is genuine.

Im sure if the rapist apologised to the authorities (not rhe victim) but carried on intimidating the victim then quite a few people on here wud think that was fine.

[jyunga]

Shievonne is the manipulative one. The task targeted to scare her from going in the DR clearly showed how she uses her 'mother' role to get in everyone's favor. Notice how she turned Deana questioning of her not talking to her in days into how the other people are talking behind Deana's back and how Shievonne's always been their for her.

[Roy Mars III]

you're giving her too much credit

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

She is milking the 'victim' role. Her accusations are coming from nothing.... I hope it backfires on her. She has friends in that house but she warms to no-one....she is cold and calculating and would back stab anyone at the first opportunity if it suited her.

I kinda get that impression of her too, I quite like her, but I don't trust if I'm honest, & I think she would backstab anyone to get her hands on the prize.

[sampvt]

SamPVT,
I'm beginning to suspect that your posts do not represent your view but are planted to provoke response. You switch between articulate though provocative discourse in the beginning which encourages reply to balance opinion, and then outright vitriol when the embers of debate are dying just to keep the outrage going. Is this aimed at mustering support for the individual you are seemingly attacking or are you, like most of us on here, just bored? Who in their right mind blames a victim for cleverly masterminding their ordeal? I'd hate for you to be on the jury of a rape case if this thread is genuine.

Cant say I really understand the point behind your post. I start posts which are in general used and bring up valid points. I champion honest people and hate people that cry foul at every corner. I didnt think I was nasty, just sometimes a little pointed but I never get nasty or stir stuff. I guess being the age I am and living life with old school views makes me a little outdated at times (in the eyes of those that havent yet lived) but in general I am not that conflictive if boundaries and rules are observed.

[rinkydinkpanther]

deana will soon fall down as her gameplan depends on her picking on the mentally weaker ones....when she crosses with a mentally stronger person who can remember all the back stabbing and carrying tales she has done for weeks, then she will be toast....id suggest adam , luke a, caroline, maybe even luke s or sara could tear her down if she ever goes after them....imagine the scenario, if she hears one of them criticize her or nominate her, she will be demanding to know why....when shiv told her she was getting too much sympathy, deana went nuts,,,shes not sweet and nice at all....her gameplan is too narrow, it all hinges on weak targets and getting self pity....that may not be enough to win big brother anymore....i hope it isnt

[sampvt]

deana will soon fall down as her gameplan depends on her picking on the mentally weaker ones....when she crosses with a mentally stronger person who can remember all the back stabbing and carrying tales she has done for weeks, then she will be toast....id suggest adam , luke a, caroline, maybe even luke s or sara could tear her down if she ever goes after them....imagine the scenario, if she hears one of them criticize her or nominate her, she will be demanding to know why....when shiv told her she was getting too much sympathy, deana went nuts,,,shes not sweet and nice at all....her gameplan is too narrow, it all hinges on weak targets and getting self pity....that may not be enough to win big brother anymore....i hope it isnt

Words of wisdom, I think she is also picking her battles well. Everyone goes on about her and Conor but to date she hasnt engaged in an argument with him. All she does is call him a bully then run away. she came up against luke s regarding him and ash and she backed off when Luke stood his ground. I cant wait for her to get into the main man Adam, he will crucify her and spit the bones out easily. I can even see Sara giving her a good run for her money becasue as I have said before, Sara hasent even started her gameplan and when she does, sh.t will fly.

As Rinky says, when she runs out of easy tragets, she will fade away. The race card and victim thing, if she chooses to play them for real in the diary room, will not stick as we have seem the guts of those arguments settled already and she dosent see that yet as they happened on the outside.

[optimisticcynic]

SamPVT,
It's one thing to hate people that cry foul at every corner, but it is another to minimise the experiences of others as they do not meet your own arbitrary criteria for what should/should not be offensive. You seem to use the same yardstick in the Caroline/Adam "gorilla" dispute. There may be occasions where you are right, but these will not excuse the occasions where you are wrong as denial of trauma is at times as difficult to deal with by victims as the trauma itself.
It is presumptuous to assume that those not in agreement with you have not yet lived and a Big Brother forum is not one to compare battle scars.
I don't think you're nasty at all. I perceive you to be more of a devil's advocate and I agree that a forum needs this. I made my post as an observation, and hope I haven't discouraged you from voicing your opinion.
Big love, and as *******igh said, let's hug it out!

[coolface]

she did make a big deal out of the becky pretending to be her best friend task, like wtf was she supposed to do, give up her option for immunity just so deana didn't get offended? jesus christ

[ChristmasNeeve]

Words of wisdom, I think she is also picking her battles well. Everyone goes on about her and Conor but to date she hasnt engaged in an argument with him. All she does is call him a bully then run away. she came up against luke s regarding him and ash and she backed off when Luke stood his ground. I cant wait for her to get into the main man Adam, he will crucify her and spit the bones out easily. I can even see Sara giving her a good run for her money becasue as I have said before, Sara hasent even started her gameplan and when she does, sh.t will fly.

As Rinky says, when she runs out of easy tragets, she will fade away. The race card and victim thing, if she chooses to play them for real in the diary room, will not stick as we have seem the guts of those arguments settled already and she dosent see that yet as they happened on the outside.

That's simply not true, she has confronted Conor, she confronted him after the Diary episode and asked him how would he know she had a split personality when he's never spoken to her or told her what his problem with her was, all she got back was "I just do"

And she won't argue with Adam because he's a nice guy who has always been nice and respectful towards her, she only ever argues with people who have something against her.

[sampvt]

SamPVT,
It's one thing to hate people that cry foul at every corner, but it is another to minimise the experiences of others as they do not meet your own arbitrary criteria for what should/should not be offensive. You seem to use the same yardstick in the Caroline/Adam "gorilla" dispute. There may be occasions where you are right, but these will not excuse the occasions where you are wrong as denial of trauma is at times as difficult to deal with by victims as the trauma itself.
It is presumptuous to assume that those not in agreement with you have not yet lived and a Big Brother forum is not one to compare battle scars.
I don't think you're nasty at all. I perceive you to be more of a devil's advocate and I agree that a forum needs this. I made my post as an observation, and hope I haven't discouraged you from voicing your opinion.
Big love, and as *******igh said, let's hug it out!

You actually sound really nice, you should be on our team Adam campaign, we need people like you.

Go Team Adam

[optimisticcynic]

I actually want Adam to win with Luke A/Lauren as runners-up. Have had the day off work today so have used it as any responsible adult would and joined a Big Brother forum. It's really addictive.

[coleman]

What if i or you were in there. What would we be like. Bb house is not an easy place to live in. It takes a lot of nerve to keep your composure. I think deana is doing well.

[TIGHAMADAN]

Glad people are seeing through her, people forget her stirring and tale telling.

[sampvt]

Watched her tonight with shiv, she just sat there like a little puppy dog and offered nothing when there was no audience. Does she not realise the cameras were on here. By the way can someone get the doctor in for Shiv, she is an accident waiting to happen

[Beverley]

And there Deana goes again, now suddenly she's scared of Lauren (victim much?) and she's sure Lauren is saying things to two other HM's. It's about time Deana returned that big wooden spoon back to the kitchen. Her tactic's are so boring.