In danger of overplaying the 'victim' card..

[Rustic bauble]

I know she has had disgraceful things said about her by Conor and it has been nice o see her overcome that. Conors days are numbered and he knows it. However I think Deana is in danger of latching on to the public sympathy that she obviously has over her treatment by Conor and Arron. She has now rounded on Shievonne (although I'm not a fan) and is now accusing Lauren etc of not sticking up for her in the arguement. As yet I have not seen any of the housemates join in and support anyone in a verbal exchange.

If she is not careful it will backfire....cos I am starting to see right through her.

[lostalex]

Personally i find her very dignified and she doesn't sink to the level of her opponents, and i think that's what has saved her thus far. She is a classy broad and i doubt that will change.

I think it's interesting for me as American to see Indians on BB, and notice how much more sophisticated they are compared to the "british" girls they argue with. I know that sounds a bit racist to say, but it is something i've noticed, i think Indian girls on this show do come accross as way more classy than the british girls they argue with.

again i'm only judging based on BB, so i'm not making any statement beyond BB, just what i've seen on BB.

Indian girls just seem so elegant to me.

[sampvt]

Personally i find her very dignified and she doesn't sink to the level of her opponents, and i think that's what has saved her thus far. She is a classy broad and i doubt that will change.

I think it's interesting for me as American to see Indians on BB, and notice how much more sophisticated they are compared to the "british" girls they argue with. I know that sounds a bit racist to say, but it is something i've noticed, i think Indian girls on this show do come accross as way more classy than the british girls they argue with.

again i'm only judging based on BB, so i'm not making any statement beyond BB, just what i've seen on BB.

Indian girls just seem so elegant to me.

Invest in a Virgin atlantic ticket to the Midlands UK for 7 days. Your opinion may change somewhat. Asian girls are never nasty or vendictive in real life. They are brought up to undermine their enemies with empathy and philosophies that date back to the Raj. Deana is a mixture of both and carries it off well.

My eldest son dated an asian girl years ago and we all thought they were going to get married. When he broke it off, she destroyed him with her tongue. He said it was like 2 different people.

[newsbb]

theres no such thing as overplaying the victim card, remember denisse welch?

[joeysteele]

3 weeks ago, I never believed I would be saying this but I think Deana is incredible, she stands her ground and she has really upped the game since winning on friday.
Far from playing the victim,I think she is now really going at it all now with confidence.
Keep going as she is and she will have managed to create the right balance completely.

Tonight for instance with Shievonne,Shievonne was left just looking ridiculous while Deana just shone. I have to give her massive credit for that.

[elliebrew]

SO SO SO SICK of the same thing every day

Its ABSOLUTE crap.....shes popular with me because she's feisty, fun, soft, kind, articulate, isn't afraid to confront issues!

I have no pity for her whatsoever only admiration for her strength

[lostalex]

I really like her too. I think this is the first season of BB that i actually agree with the general consensus lol, Usually i'm like WTF are peiple smoking? how can they like Aaron or Jay or Louise?? But this season it seems i'm on the same page as everyone else around here. It's nice :)

[JamesBond]

She tried to stand up for herself but Shievonne was just too aggressive. I think after the boys picking on her and now crazy hands Shievonne having a go, it has just got too much for her.

[armand.kay]

Well considering Shievonn was playing mind games with her I can understand why she questioned lauren.

[DanielLuis]

Well considering Shievonn was playing mind games with her I can understand why she questioned lauren.

Thats completely true! She was clearly trying to maipulate her and unfortuantely Deana was beliveing her!

[Jords]

She cant play a victim card if she IS a victim of being singled out. I dont think she plays up to it at all though, she cracks on and destroys anybody that has an issue with her elegance.

[DoM-h]

Yeah I reckon she's peaked too early as a housemate and her being a victim is going to eventually back fire, not in a huge way but just in a way to lose her a few votes in the final. I think Adam will nick it. He's a lot less irritable than Deana is, he doesn't moan as much and doesn't have the whiny voice.

[rayheartbliss]

3 weeks ago, I never believed I would be saying this but I think Deana is incredible, she stands her ground and she has really upped the game since winning on friday.
Far from playing the victim,I think she is now really going at it all now with confidence.
Keep going as she is and she will have managed to create the right balance completely.

Tonight for instance with Shievonne,Shievonne was left just looking ridiculous while Deana just shone. I have to give her massive credit for that.

This.

[rinkydinkpanther]

shes done ok fair play, but she needs to do more than simply encourage others to criticize her in order that she can milk more sympathy...i do like her though, i like her naughty smile and i also agree she destroyed the awful shiv just as she destroyed arron and connor...

[wendywillow]

not much deana can do when a crazed shiev is railing at her, one of the keys with bb is to NOT lose your s*** when you get nommed, sheiv just followed arron out the door with this display

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Yeah I reckon she's peaked too early as a housemate and her being a victim is going to eventually back fire, not in a huge way but just in a way to lose her a few votes in the final. I think Adam will nick it. He's a lot less irritable than Deana is, he doesn't moan as much and doesn't have the whiny voice.

The public loves a victim clearly. Shilpa, Denise! :bored:

[thesheriff443]

she is a great housemate and has been fighting from the first night they all know she can win and her so called friends in the house wont back her up in case the they get put in the fireing line as to backing someone up that has come from the inside gang when a member is having a go useally at deana they ask one another to back them to make thier point.

[thesheriff443]

The public loves a victim clearly. Shilpa, Denise! :bored:

deana is not makeing her self a victim she has been targeted from the start and as for adam he is ok but he is a perv and all the girls dont like to hug him even tho lauren is useing him as comfort blanket .

[Yayita]

She has been the victim of alot of abussive comments and actions done against her. There is a man in there whos sole purpose is to evict her, malign her and ruin her reputation and tries to manipulate others to do this for him. However, she has not behaved like a victim at all! She stands her ground, speaks her mind, follows her own rythm and nobody elses, fights clean and does it all while maintaining her composure and grace.

Simply put, she is a lady and until I see her change into something else, I will continue to support her.

[smeagol]

a victim is a victim you dont set out to be one you either are or you are not. you'd have to be blind to not see she has been victimised by some of thosevile creatures.
she doesn't play any card. she could of had conor removed if she truely wanted to play it. she could of claimed bullying like lauren and had arron etc out far sooner if she chose too.
instead she has stood strong tried to join in and not let it get to her. thats a brave woman. she has acted with dignity against all odds.
to play the sympathy card she would be crying non stop telling bb and evryone shes being bullied etc etc. the only times ive seen her say anything similar is when she is talking about why conor hates her as she doesn't understand his reasons. either do i he called her a asshole on the dance night for no reason and hasn't stopped. he has never spoke to her.
i wonder if people are watching all this show soemtimes or just watchin clips and making assumptions lol

[Yayita]

a victim is a victim you dont set out to be one you either are or you are not. you'd have to be blind to not see she has been victimised by some of thosevile creatures.
she doesn't play any card. she could of had conor removed if she truely wanted to play it. she could of claimed bullying like lauren and had arron etc out far sooner if she chose too.
instead she has stood strong tried to join in and not let it get to her. thats a brave woman. she has acted with dignity against all odds.
to play the sympathy card she would be crying non stop telling bb and evryone shes being bullied etc etc. the only times ive seen her say anything similar is when she is talking about why conor hates her as she doesn't understand his reasons. either do i he called her a asshole on the dance night for no reason and hasn't stopped. he has never spoke to her.
i wonder if people are watching all this show soemtimes or just watchin clips and making assumptions lol

For some reason all throughout history, people have always blamed and atacked the victim because it is easier than standing up to the real problem.

[Gaynor186]

She is a lady and I like her, but has such insecurity problems she is easily swayed. The 'outsiders' have ALWAYS welcomed her; have never said anything derogatory about her......yet now she's considering turning her back on them because of Shiv.......that's soooo disloyal......and ugly!!

[smeagol]

For some reason all throughout history, people have always blamed and atacked the victim because it is easier than standing up to the real problem.

i think its crazy. ive never seen anyone put up with what she has and not walk or be crying non stop or angry or something more. she handles it amazingly and gets called playing the sympathy card. its just mind boggerling to me hat people can say it.
i wouldn't blame her if she did. everyone of the others would thats for sure they wouldnt of lasted 5 minutes.poor arron tried to play it as being bullied after adam pranked him lol funny that was

[thesheriff443]

She is a lady and I like her, but has such insecurity problems she is easily swayed. The 'outsiders' have ALWAYS welcomed her; have never said anything derogatory about her......yet now she's considering turning her back on them because of Shiv.......that's soooo disloyal......and ugly!!

my god if she is disloyal and ugly what does that make conor

[thesheriff443]

great minds think alike deana to win.

[thesheriff443]

i think its crazy. ive never seen anyone put up with what she has and not walk or be crying non stop or angry or something more. she handles it amazingly and gets called playing the sympathy card. its just mind boggerling to me hat people can say it.
i wouldn't blame her if she did. everyone of the others would thats for sure they wouldnt of lasted 5 minutes.poor arron tried to play it as being bullied after adam pranked him lol funny that was

so true look how that big strong man conor cryed like a baby saying im going to walk but not having the guts to do it.

[nana]

She has been the victim of alot of abussive comments and actions done against her. There is a man in there whos sole purpose is to evict her, malign her and ruin her reputation and tries to manipulate others to do this for him. However, she has not behaved like a victim at all! She stands her ground, speaks her mind, follows her own rythm and nobody elses, fights clean and does it all while maintaining her composure and grace.

Simply put, she is a lady and until I see her change into something else, I will continue to support her.

I agree, I think Deanna is a lovely lady and i was horrified and upset to see Shievonne playing such cruel mind games with her. I hope Deanna can see through it all but there is only so much horribleness (is there such a word?) that you hear before you think it must be true. I think Sara is also a nice person but is very intimidated by a lot of people in there and is not as confident as Deanna in confronting it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

She cant play a victim card if she IS a victim of being singled out. I dont think she plays up to it at all though, she cracks on and destroys anybody that has an issue with her elegance.

This. Shievonne was acting like a raving lunatic and Deana handled that situation with class and grace. I can't understand people saying she was playing the victim, she was defending herself against Shievonne, what did people expect her to do exactly?

[Ellen]

This. Shievonne was acting like a raving lunatic and Deana handled that situation with class and grace. I can't understand people saying she was playing the victim, she was defending herself against Shievonne, what did people expect her to do exactly?

Whilst i agree that Shievonne is having a meltdown, It was Deana that that brought it up ,Deana says Shievonne has ignored her for 3 days & hasnt told her to her face why but has Deana spoken to Shievonne about this in the 3 days? No. Deana wanted an audience so everyone can think poor Deana.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Whilst i agree that Shievonne is having a meltdown, It was Deana that that brought it up ,Deana says Shievonne has ignored her for 3 days & hasnt told her to her face why but has Deana spoken to Shievonne about this in the 3 days? No. Deana wanted an audience so everyone can think poor Deana.

She said that after Shievonne started on her about her having nominated her though

[sampvt]

Deana started the argument passivly knowing where it was going. She steered it into dark territory and came out the other end like a cool dude at the hands of a witch. Deana is a past master of this kind of argument. She knows what to do, when to do it and then as my other post states, she retires and soaks up the sympathy. If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

[Jords]

I honestly think people are not taking Deana's perception into consideration. Just look at the situation in her point of view. How are you supposed to feel... happy?

[Ellen]

She said that after Shievonne started on her about her having nominated her though

Fair enough but Deana escalated it. They must all know by now that Shievonne has a tendancy to go off like a mentalist so why did Deana carry it on in front of everyone? Deana accused Shievonne of not coming to her & telling her what the problem was but Deana is just has bad, she didnt approach Shievonne one to one to ask if there was a problem in them 3 days, she chose to air it in front of the group.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Deana started the argument passivly knowing where it was going. She steered it into dark territory and came out the other end like a cool dude at the hands of a witch. Deana is a past master of this kind of argument. She knows what to do, when to do it and then as my other post states, she retires and soaks up the sympathy. If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

How do you know what she's a "past master" of, did you know her before BB? :conf: all of them in there have been involved in arguments, alot of them have cried afterwards, because it's draining arguing with people, especially someone like Shievonne, doesn't matter how well she handled the argument, it will still take it's toll

[Livia]

I worry that people actually think it's okay to bully someone, to single them out and verbally abuse them in the most disgusting way... and them claim they are "playing the victim card". Really? I think it's some of the others who are "playing the bully card".

[ChristmasNeeve]

Fair enough but Deana escalated it. They must all know by now that Shievonne has a tendancy to go off like a mentalist so why did Deana carry it on in front of everyone? Deana accused Shievonne of not coming to her & telling her what the problem was but Deana is just has bad, she didnt approach Shievonne one to one to ask if there was a problem in them 3 days, she chose to air it in front of the group.

Why shouldn't she stand up for herself though?, I know I would, people would be still be accusing her of playing the victim if she just sat there and took it. And yeah Deana didn't approach her either, so what? They're all in there guilty of accusing others of doing things they do themselves.

[sampvt]

How do you know what she's a "past master" of, did you know her before BB? :conf: all of them in there have been involved in arguments, alot of them have cried afterwards, because it's draining arguing with people, especially someone like Shievonne, doesn't matter how well she handled the argument, it will still take it's toll

Niamh every argument she has had she has come out of it looking like the victim. She has solicited so much support by being the underdog and All the posts have this empathetical vein running through them. That tells me she is mustering support by being percieved as the underling when it isnt true.

I kind of like her but there is nothing worse than a gameplayer that grows on the sympathy card line. It is as clear as day that she is a great one in an argument. Classy ladies dont argue, they walk away mate. Classy ladies dont carry gossip from one section to another. Classy ladies dont flit from one group to the other. Classy ladies dont make balls and let others fire them. Classy ladies dont curry favour by playing the underdog, THEY RIDE ABOVE IT.

If she would have these arguments then walk away and get on with her life, she would have my vote, but no, she has them then cries when there are loads of eyes and cameras watching. THAT MY FRIEND IS MANIPULATION.

[Jords]

I worry that people actually think it's okay to bully someone, to single them out and verbally abuse them in the most disgusting way... and them claim they are "playing the victim card". Really? I think it's some of the others who are "playing the bully card".

or even more true to light, the "pack mentality" card

[Livia]

or even more true to light, the "pack mentality" card

That's exactly what it is, Jords.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Niamh every argument she has had she has come out of it looking like the victim. She has solicited so much support by being the underdog and All the posts have this empathetical vein running through them. That tells me she is mustering support by being percieved as the underling when it isnt true.

I kind of like her but there is nothing worse than a gameplayer that grows on the sympathy card line. It is as clear as day that she is a great one in an argument. Classy ladies dont argue, they walk away mate. Classy ladies dont carry gossip from one section to another. Classy ladies dont flit from one group to the other. Classy ladies dont make balls and let others fire them. Classy ladies dont curry favour by playing the underdog, THEY RIDE ABOVE IT.

If she would have these arguments then walk away and get on with her life, she would have my vote, but no, she has them then cries when there are loads of eyes and cameras watching. THAT MY FRIEND IS MANIPULATION.

She comes out of arguments looking like the victim because she usually is the victim, Conor and Arron picked on her relentlessly, take the argument with Arron, he started on at her because she had a drink when she said she wouldn't, so did lots of others but he chose to have a go only at Deana because of it, take the argument with both Conor and Arron during the eating task, yeah she did s**t at the task but they way they treated her because of it was just revolting and undeserved and solely because they don't like her, you never see them treat Caroline like that when she comes across far worse during tasks.

Classy ladies aren't door mats, and she can either chose to be a door mat or stand up for herself in a dignified manner as she can not chose to walk away when she's in the Big Brother house, she has to live with these people.

[nana]

Niamh every argument she has had she has come out of it looking like the victim. She has solicited so much support by being the underdog and All the posts have this empathetical vein running through them. That tells me she is mustering support by being percieved as the underling when it isnt true.

I kind of like her but there is nothing worse than a gameplayer that grows on the sympathy card line. It is as clear as day that she is a great one in an argument. Classy ladies dont argue, they walk away mate. Classy ladies dont carry gossip from one section to another. Classy ladies dont flit from one group to the other. Classy ladies dont make balls and let others fire them. Classy ladies dont curry favour by playing the underdog, THEY RIDE ABOVE IT.

If she would have these arguments then walk away and get on with her life, she would have my vote, but no, she has them then cries when there are loads of eyes and cameras watching. THAT MY FRIEND IS MANIPULATION.

I can't believe how you can be so biased against her! Why do you say that she is a 'great one in an argument' is that a bad thing? She is sticking up for herself for goodness sake!! Also,
- she is not 'trying to be classy' she is being herself and is trying to put forward her point of view when people argue with her
- she does not gossip from one section to another more than any other housemate
- she does not flit from one group to another, only to people to people she thinks may be friends!
Also I think many more people make balls and let others fire them (i.e. Caroline)
She so does not play the underdog, it is your very biased view!!

[sampvt]

I can't believe how you can be so biased against her! Why do you say that she is a 'great one in an argument' is that a bad thing? She is sticking up for herself for goodness sake!! Also,
- she is not 'trying to be classy' she is being herself and is trying to put forward her point of view when people argue with her
- she does not gossip from one section to another more than any other housemate
- she does not flit from one group to another, only to people to people she thinks may be friends!
Also I think many more people make balls and let others fire them (i.e. Caroline)
She so does not play the underdog, it is your very biased view!!

I think we might be watching different shows, my apologies, I will check my recorder tonight.

[rayheartbliss]

I think we might be watching different shows, my apologies, I will check my recorder tonight.

yes you are watching a different show from us

you finally figured it out.

[nana]

I think we might be watching different shows, my apologies, I will check my recorder tonight.

Sounds a bit sarcastic - you won't check your recorder or change your mind

[robb]

not much deana can do when a crazed shiev is railing at her, one of the keys with bb is to NOT lose your s*** when you get nommed, sheiv just followed arron out the door with this display

Not sure whether deana 'destroyed' shievonne. IF ANYONE DESTROYED SHIEVEONNE IT WAS HERSELF. And adam played a part in that too.
As for the 'victim' tag, deana actually said 'we are the victims here' on the show to becky. Does she see herself as the new Shilpa Shetty?? Not to say SHE wasn't victimised (far far worse than deana), but IT DIDN'T HALF HELP HER WIN AND GAIN HUGE PUBLICITY....:conf:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Not sure whether deana 'destroyed' shievonne. IF ANYONE DESTROYED SHIEVEONNE IT WAS HERSELF. And adam played a part in that too.
As for the 'victim' tag, deana actually said 'we are the victims here' on the show to becky. Does she see herself as the new Shilpa Shetty?? Not to say she wasn't victimied (far far worse than deana), but IT DIDN'T HALF HELP HER WIN AND GAIN HUGE PUBLICITY....:conf:

Deana knows what to do to win. Play the victim like Shilpa did. And it's working. The public loves a victim! :bored:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Deana knows what to do to win. Play the victim like Shilpa did. And it's working. The public loves a victim! :bored:

Why are you comparing Deana to Shilpa? Just because they're both Indian? Also, you don't think Shilpa was a victim of genuine bullying? Really?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Why are you comparing Deana to Shilpa? Just because they're both Indian? Also, you don't think Shilpa was a victim of genuine bullying? Really?

I do. But she won with the sympathy vote, not because she was the best housemate.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I know she has had disgraceful things said about her by Conor and it has been nice o see her overcome that. Conors days are numbered and he knows it. However I think Deana is in danger of latching on to the public sympathy that she obviously has over her treatment by Conor and Arron. She has now rounded on Shievonne (although I'm not a fan) and is now accusing Lauren etc of not sticking up for her in the arguement. As yet I have not seen any of the housemates join in and support anyone in a verbal exchange.

If she is not careful it will backfire....cos I am starting to see right through her.
:amazed::worship:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I do. But she won with the sympathy vote, not because she was the best housemate.

But she wasn't "playing the Victim" she was actually the victim and to be quite honest she handled it all with a lot of class. Yeah she won by default imo but that's hardly her fault is it? Blame Jade, Jo, Dannielle and Jack if you're looking for someone to blame for Shilpa winning.

[jyunga]

If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

You need to wake up and be more realistic. You're view of the house is that 1 hour of air-time each night. They are in there 24 hours each day. There's more then just the agruments, there's the down-time with nothing to do, thinking about the agruments you had, wondering if you were in the right or if you were in the wrong, getting frustrated,etc. It's stressful and people are going to get tired of the bitching and want to release their emotions.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

But she wasn't "playing the Victim" she was actually the victim and to be quite honest she handled it all with a lot of class. Yeah she won by default imo but that's hardly her fault is it? Blame Jade, Jo, Dannielle and Jack if you're looking for someone to blame for Shilpa winning.

Agreed, but she shouldn't have won. She wasn't the best housemate that year. Dirk Benedict was in my opinion.

[Jords]

Deana started the argument passivly knowing where it was going. She steered it into dark territory and came out the other end like a cool dude at the hands of a witch. Deana is a past master of this kind of argument. She knows what to do, when to do it and then as my other post states, she retires and soaks up the sympathy. If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

Excuse me dont chat bull shes cried probably once in there after the DR entry with Becky, Arron and Conor.

Edit: Before last night of course

[rinkydinkpanther]

Agreed, but she shouldn't have won. She wasn't the best housemate that year. Dirk Benedict was in my opinion.

agreed dirk benedict/faceman was absolutely awesome and hysterically funny and dry humoured, he was mocked and bullied more than anyone , by jade and her awful sisdekicks and by the psychotic woman with red hair from the kenny everett show...they even mocked hi scancer , the fact it caused him impptence when hed been on chemotherapy years ago and his alleged alcoholism from 20 years ago....dirk was phenomenal

[robb]

But she wasn't "playing the Victim" she was actually the victim and to be quite honest she handled it all with a lot of class. Yeah she won by default imo but that's hardly her fault is it? Blame Jade, Jo, Dannielle and Jack if you're looking for someone to blame for Shilpa winning.

I agree, and I actually wanted shilpa to win. The point is it set a PRECEDENT for others to follow, maybe.....

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

agreed dirk benedict/faceman was absolutely awesome and hysterically funny and dry humoured, he was mocked and bullied more than anyone , by jade and her awful sisdekicks and by the psychotic woman with red hair from the kenny everett show...they even mocked hi scancer , the fact it caused him impptence when hed been on chemotherapy years ago and his alleged alcoholism from 20 years ago....dirk was phenomenal

I loved him and wanted him to win! He was robbed! :bawling:

[ChristmasNeeve]

I agree, and I actually wanted shilpa to win. The point is it set a PRECEDENT for others to follow, maybe.....

In order to play the victim you need to have people making you a victim, Deana has no shortage of that, It's like the Lord of the Flies in there, there's almost always going to be someone who gets picked on a bit, when you throw a bunch of strangers into an environment like that, especially when it's a competition

[Toxic]

How is she playing the victim card? Just because she's treated like **** that means she's playing on it? Maybe if people left her alone/stopped bitching about her she wouldn't be the 'victim' - such a dumb statement.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

How is she playing the victim card? Just because she's treated like **** that means she's playing on it? Maybe if people left her alone/stopped bitching about her she wouldn't be the 'victim' - such a dumb statement.

She's not the only one who's been treated like rubbish. It happened to Lauren as well. And Adam by vile Caroline.

[ChristmasNeeve]

How is she playing the victim card? Just because she's treated like **** that means she's playing on it? Maybe if people left her alone/stopped bitching about her she wouldn't be the 'victim' - such a dumb statement.

Yeah exactly, and to be quite honest I think she'd be well within her rights to act more victim like but I don't think she has been, you don't see her crying alot or threatening to leave or any of that crap

[ChristmasNeeve]

She's not the only one who's been treated like rubbish. It happened to Lauren as well. And Adam by vile Caroline.

I don't get your point here at all.......Lauren behaved much more "victim like" than Deana ever did and Adam didn't even know what Caroline said about him

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I don't get your point here at all.......Lauren behaved much more "victim like" than Deana ever did and Adam didn't even know what Caroline said about him

Lauren is actually a victim, unlike Deana. And Adam knows Caroline is bitching behind his back.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Lauren is actually a victim, unlike Deana. And Adam knows Caroline is bitching behind his back.

Give me a break Deana has been picked on relentlessly in there

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Give me a break Deana has been picked on relentlessly in there

She's playing the victim too much for my liking. She knows what she's doing.

[Marcus.]

She's playing the victim too much for my liking. She knows what she's doing.

she not

[karezza]

Hairy actress Deana has plenty more tears up her sleeve.:bawling:

[TIGHAMADAN]

Glad people see she is playing the poor me card. Adam 2 win.