G4S is now having to use Army at the Olympics

[arista]

G4S failed to get enough staff
so the Army now has to do menial tasks


Reported on SkyNewsHD and Ch4news



[MoD fury as soldiers forced to carry out menial security tasks for Olympic Games
Thousands more Armed Forces personnel will be forced to carry out “menial” security work for the Olympic Games, leaving defence chiefs furious]


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/9393126/MoD-fury-as-soldiers-forced-to-carry-out-menial-security-tasks-for-Olympic-Games.html



Well Omah its a mess

[Omah]

Well Omah its a mess

It certainly is ..... and who's going to foot the bill ?

Not the fat cats "sponsoring" the Games but the taxpayers so-called representatives, the Tory Government, who can't afford an army to protect the country (apparently) but who are prepared to use what little we've got to "pat down" Olympic ticket holders and tell them where the nearest toilets are ..... :rolleyes:

[lostalex]

I think because of the '72 munich games incident and also the '96 bombing it's right that the Olympics should have super tight security. It's obviously a major target. Even if they are doing menial tasks at least they'll be there.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18806936

Retired Colonel Richard Kemp, a former infantry commander in the British Army, said the timing of the announcement was "bizarre".

"We've known about the Olympic Games for seven years, if we couldn't have planned better than this then there's something wrong," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

Colonel Kemp said he understood many of the extra troops being drafted in had just returned from Afghanistan - or were about to be deployed there - and would have been due to go on leave.

Sources at the Ministry of Defence said the extra military personnel would be compensated if they had their leave cancelled.

The BBC understands the extra troops were put on a "one day" notice to move recently, in anticipation of the problems at G4S.

The government has previously said a total security force of 23,700 will take care of venue security, including 13,500 troops and the G4S contingent.

So more than 10% of the Biritish Army will be "guarding" the OG - presumably paid for by the taxpayer - meanwhile the "sponsors" have a monoploy on sales withing the Olympic venues and will be raking in the profits .....

Many of those troops will, of course, be facing redundancy due to Tory Government cuts .....

[Kizzy]

Well if the tories had spent more time planning for the olympics than shmoozing Mr wonga.com and cuddling up to Mr Murdock.....

[arista]

Well if the tories had spent more time planning for the olympics than shmoozing Mr wonga.com and cuddling up to Mr Murdock.....



Kizzy New Labour Started it
they were in power until 2010.

[arista]

I think because of the '72 munich games incident and also the '96 bombing it's right that the Olympics should have super tight security. It's obviously a major target. Even if they are doing menial tasks at least they'll be there.


Yes the Terror Gun Muslim Men
(if they appear) will be Shot Dead.



We are not having what went down in India.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18806936

G4S will have overall control of security at more than 30 Olympics sporting venues and 70 "non-competition" venues such as car parks and hotels.

Some of the people contracted to work for G4S have told the BBC the company has given them little information.

One caller to BBC Radio 5live, Jane, from Manchester, said she had heard nothing from G4S since April.

"I had an interview in March and I had training for a security licence in April, and then since then there has been very little information about what actually the job role is," she said.

"I have had no job training. I don't even know where I'm going to work, or what kind of work its going to be or when it's going to start."

G4S may well employing some right undesirables (not "Jane", of course) ..... :hmph:

[Livia]

After having their number cut down to 80,000... not exactly a suitable thank you for their service... I hope the army tells them to go and **** themselves.

[michael21]

G4S failed to get enough staff
so the Army now has to do menial tasks


Reported on SkyNewsHD and Ch4news



[MoD fury as soldiers forced to carry out menial security tasks for Olympic Games
Thousands more Armed Forces personnel will be forced to carry out “menial” security work for the Olympic Games, leaving defence chiefs furious]


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/9393126/MoD-fury-as-soldiers-forced-to-carry-out-menial-security-tasks-for-Olympic-Games.html



Well Omah its a mess


there no story here the army job is to protect the UK from any threat if some one try to blow-up the Olympics the army we stop then

[arista]

After having their number cut down to 80,000... not exactly a suitable thank you for their service... I hope the army tells them to go and **** themselves.

No they are all getting Paid.

[Omah]

there no story here the army job is to protect the UK from any threat if some one try to blow-up the Olympics the army we stop then

The (re-assigned) army will not be protecting the UK, but just the sponsors investment and the Tory Governments interests ..... :nono:

[Kizzy]

Kizzy New Labour Started it
they were in power until 2010.
That was two years ago...Have the tories been sitting on their hands for two years?...

[arista]

That was two years ago...Have the tories been sitting on their hands for two years?...


No
the Conservative -LibDems
are doing good
and not the Corruption New Labour Had

[michael21]

No
the Conservative -LibDems
are doing good
and not the Corruption New Labour Had

so going on about the same thing and stay on topic

[arista]

The (re-assigned) army will not be protecting the UK, but just the sponsors investment and the Tory Governments interests ..... :nono:


Yes Omah
alot on money is involved.


But any Terror M16 Gun Man
will be shot dead

That is what matters here.



We are not like India

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18767999

People recruited by security company G4S to work during the Olympics have spoken of anger and disappointment over their treatment.

The company is being paid £300m to supply 10,000 guards for the Games, but the BBC understands it cannot now bring in that number.

Anger has been growing for weeks among those involved in G4S's recruitment process.

Nosa Eghobamien, 19, from Watford, has been told that she both has and has not got a job.

She was trained, then told her application had not been accepted, then told to collect her uniform, but earlier was told she is still being screened.

She said: "I was so excited to work there.

"It makes me upset and not want to watch the Olympics knowing I could have been working there."

Mike Curtis, of High Wycombe, said his daughter had also been left disappointed.

He said: "She initially undertook training and received a contract to be one of the security staff some time ago, but then received no further information until she received an email at short notice with details of a final training day."

She was unable to attend.

"No alternatives were provided and it was impossible to contact anyone at G4S," he added.

One parent told the BBC that many young people had taken time out of studying for A-levels to complete training for jobs they had not been given.

She said: "For a lot of young people this is their first employment. They are distraught and angry."

Darius Athill, from London, described a "long and laborious" process after applying for a job months ago.

"I went for an interview and was sent for security vetting. I was then told I had passed screening and vetting and that I would hear back from them.

"I was sent contracts and given a login to a website, which didn't work. After calling a helpline and waiting hours to get through they had no idea what I was talking about."

Chris, from London, said: "I was offered the role of team leader.

"I have now been actively chasing G4S for two months and every time I have called I have been told I will be contacted shortly to arrange training and that I should be patient."

Labour's Tessa Jowell said on Wednesday there was "clearly a serious problem".

Not just serious - potentially catastrophic ..... :pipe:

[arista]

Yes I look forward to Ch4 Docu
and the BBC1 Docu on this.

Ch4 's is now 30mins ending at 8:30PM
BBC1's starts then

So now you can watch both within a hour

[arista]

SkyNewsHD is reporting a a whistleblower
who claims a bomb could have been planted in there.


So with these Pro Troops there ,
they are now
able to get Better Security Control.


And
Minister: Games Security Is Not A 'Shambles'
http://news.sky.com/story/959028/minister-games-security-is-not-a-shambles

[arista]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02275/mcdonalds-staff_2275176k.jpg

McD making sure everything is Fresh and Ready.

[arista]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02275/halal-cuisine_2275174k.jpg

A muslim food area

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02275/dining-area-food_2275149k.jpg

A Caribbean Food Section

[Omah]

"That'll be €69.00 for the Ayam Chicken McD and Milo, please"

:eek:

[arista]

Good news though
any Fish and Chip sellers can sell near McD.

But Never Chips on their Own (Thats McD as you know)
Only when bought with Fish.

[Scarlett.]

I can't wait the the Corperate Games **** off out of our country.

[arista]

I can't wait the the Corperate Games **** off out of our country.



Its not here for long.

(also there should be Legacy project , after the Event,
that will help you in some way in the future)


But Enough time for the Bloated BBC
to burn all our money on it
as they go over the top.


3-D Sony Hire (and there Tech staff)
is not cheap.

[arista]

From midnight tonight
no plane can Fly over the Zone
the City Airport
Flys to Scotland as normal.

Infact that the only way a hijacked plane could get close
is on the London City Airport route
But they have all the Data of planes that are due to land each day.

A RAF Officer said on ITV1London Local News
there are many steps before the final
which is to shoot the Terror Plane Down.


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/7/11/180508/default/v2/143819899-1-522x293.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/13/article-0-140C8C6C000005DC-930_634x343.jpg

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18837524

Security firm G4S has said it stands to lose up to £50m after it announced it was unable to provide enough security guards for the London Olympics.

G4S said it was "deeply disappointed" and accepted responsibility for the costs of extra military personnel.

The culture secretary has said any serviceman who had been inconvenienced would have their costs repaid through refunds from the contract.

Jeremy Hunt* told BBC Radio 4's Any Questions: "If there's an apology for the fact that this has had to happen at the last moment, then I'm willing to give it, of course."

"But I also think that most people in the army and the forces are very proud of the fact that that is what they are there to do, to help us at the moments when we need them."

The Commons Public Accounts Committee has summoned G4S, two government departments and 2012 organisers Locog to answer questions in September.

MPs want to know why G4S was unable to hire enough staff.

Ian Swales, a Liberal Democrat MP and member of the committee said G4S should have provided a "Rolls-Royce service" after increasing its charges by £198m.

"We were really concerned because when the announcement of the doubling of the number of security personnel was made we looked at the breakdown of the costs and we saw that the G4S contract was going up from £86m to £284m, which felt like a colossal amount of money," he said.

Prime Minister David Cameron said: "I'm absolutely clear that if companies don't deliver on their contracts then they should be pursued for that money".

But Mr Cameron tried to change the focus of attention away from security, saying: "We should be raising our sights, and thinking of the incredible inspiration that these Games are going to bring.

"The facilities are built, the country is ready, we are in really good shape."

The man in charge of London 2012, Lord Sebastian Coe, denied the Olympics was in "crisis".

Shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said the situation looked like "another Home Office shambles".

* It's That Man Again !

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18840464

Senior managers at G4S only realised "eight or nine days ago", that they could not provide enough security guards for the London Olympics, the company's chief executive has said.

Nick Buckles told the BBC that problems in the recruitment and deployment process were only recently identified.

He also could not guarantee all the security staff spoke fluent English.

G4S will charge Olympic organisers Locog £280m, but says it will lose up to £50m on the contract.

Mr Buckles said the company accepted it had "underestimated the task of supplying staff to the Olympics".

"We deeply regret that... and we are deeply disappointed. It was a daunting task to supply that number of staff in a short time scale.

"I began to know it was going wrong eight or nine days ago... Basically we are recruiting a large number of people and they are all working through a process of interview, two or three different degrees of training, licensing and accreditation.

"It is only when you get closer to the Games, you realise that the number is not as high as you expect," Mr Buckles added.

What are these managers "managing" ?

Don't they have plans, schedules, targets and reviews ?

:idc:

[MTVN]

So much for the efficiency of these private security companies

[arista]

So much for the efficiency of these private security companies

http://manchestermule.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Nick-Buckles.jpg
Yes the G4S CEO Nick Buckles goes into Parliament
to be Questioned
this week.


Live on all UK News Ch.

[arista]

What are these managers "managing" ?

Don't they have plans, schedules, targets and reviews ?

:idc:

Old G4S
data sheets.

Yes they have plans
that why 2 weeks before
they are using Army and RAF spares
better now than 2 days before.

[Kizzy]

So much for the efficiency of these private security companies
Lets not let old Theresa May of the hook... She is also accountable for this.
Thats what you get for letting the tories privatise everything and de-regulate the eff out of our public services...... You get this! a shambles...

Private companies rake in large amounts from the government for running care homes, hospitals, security services staff them with low skilled low paid people.

And voila, you have a country that is coming apart at the seams....

[arista]

Lets not let old Theresa May of the hook... She is also accountable for this.
Thats what you get for letting the tories privatise everything and de-regulate the eff out of our public services...... You get this! a shambles...

Private companies rake in large amounts from the government for running care homes, hospitals, security services staff them with low skilled low paid people.

And voila, you have a country that is coming apart at the seams....



Not apart at the seams
Are you aware that that speed humps on the Routes are being
removed so the official cars get a smooth ride to the Events.
After the speed humps go back, of course


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/13/article-2173322-140C28D0000005DC-386_634x424.jpg

[Kizzy]

Not apart at the seams
Are you aware that that speed humps on the Routes are being
removed so the official cars get a smooth ride to the Events.
After the speed humps go back, of course


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/13/article-2173322-140C28D0000005DC-386_634x424.jpg

naturally....

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18866153

G4S chief executive Mr Buckles, who is due to appear before the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, has said he is "bitterly disappointed" at his company's failure to meet the terms of its contract.

An insider from the committee organising the Olympics (Locog) has told the BBC that fit failed to deal with the problems at G4S despite warnings over the last 18 months.

Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt said it was no time for a "witch-hunt" but "contingency plans" were in place if G4S further failed to deliver. He told the BBC's Newsnight programme the government had "moved very quickly" when it learned of the company's staffing issues, adding that ministers would have been failing at their jobs if they didn't have a back-up plan that worked.

Police, meanwhile, have had to deploy extra officers at short notice from eight UK forces to do Olympic security work after the company's staff failed to turn up to venues.

Greater Manchester Police had to deploy officers to provide security at a hotel in Salford where four Olympic football teams will stay - after only 17 of an expected 56 G4S staff turned up for work.

IAC 2012 - It's A Cock-up !

:rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

Of course... I hope this is a wake up call for the government, and they reverse their plans to get rid of frontline and back room trained professional police officers and replace them with these 'security' officers.

[Omah]

Of course... I hope this is a wake up call for the government, and they reverse their plans to get rid of frontline and back room trained professional police officers and replace them with these 'security' officers.

You may hope ..... but there's no chance ..... :(

Cuts have got to be made (as long as it doesn't affect Castle Cameron ..... :rolleyes:)

[lostalex]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/7/11/180508/default/v2/143819899-1-522x293.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/13/article-0-140C8C6C000005DC-930_634x343.jpg



mmm, sexy

[arista]

mmm, sexy


Protecting Everyone in the Zone.

[Beverley]

After having their number cut down to 80,000... not exactly a suitable thank you for their service... I hope the army tells them to go and **** themselves.

112,000 troops to 82,000 troops, many old regiments are being cut or merged (just like they did in 1993/4, example of the time, I originally joined The Royal Corps of Transport which was soon merged into The Royal Logistics Corps).

Alot of cut personel will be those who are currently in rehab after losing a limb or several limbs. While the Government is playing the happy pc brigade our lads and lasses are stuffed into high rise flats that most rooms will not allow wheelchair access, therefore they have to crawl room to room, folding the wheelchair down to get it in behind them. Meanwhile, new 'arrivals' into the UK get to live in splendid accomodation at the taxpayers expense, mobile phones provided, cars, sofa's, dining room sets, even paint and wallpaper.

The lads and lasses down at the Olympics will be in tents, on basic care, minimal sleep, cookhouses set up in tents, you name it.

The army's excuse, and I've heard this so many times myself, "you are paid 0:00 hours to 23:39 hours every day".

Source: 7.5 years service myself, fiance of a current serving soldier of 16 years.

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/18/1342594540736/Olympic-mascot-statues-008.jpg

I think some posters would like to stab this blow up Merch.

[arista]

"Source: 7.5 years service myself, fiance of a current serving soldier of 16 years."


Great to have your Viewpoint


Life In The City

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-18877531

City of Coventry Stadium will host 12 Olympic football matches

West Midlands forces have been asked to provide a total of 380 officers a day for two Olympic venues, according to the police federation.

Chris Jones, West Midlands Police Federation secretary, said the officers were being drafted in because security firm G4S cannot supply enough guards.

Mr Jones said officers from "overstretched" forces would staff Coventry's Ricoh Arena and a hotel.

The four forces would not confirm or deny the number of officers allocated.

G4S chief executive Nick Buckles told MPs that police and the military would be reimbursed for providing personnel to plug the shortfall.

He said he regretted the firm took on the Olympic contract, as he agreed it had been a "humiliating shambles".

About 180 G4S staff did not turn up at Chesford Grange Hotel in Kenilworth last week to be accredited for Olympic football.

Mr Jones said West Midlands Police, Staffordshire, West Mercia and Warwickshire would provide security at the hotel, which is hosting football teams.

The teams are playing at the City of Coventry Stadium, which police have also been asked to staff.

Mr Jones, of the federation which represents rank and file officers, said he understood police would have to staff the stadium until the final game is played there on 9 August.

It's A Cock-up Get More Officers On Hire ..... :idc:

[Beverley]

"Source: 7.5 years service myself, fiance of a current serving soldier of 16 years."


Great to have your Viewpoint


Life In The City

Wish it was different but sadly I can't say it won't be.

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/18/1342568227614/Steve-Bell-001.jpg

Steve Bell , the artists viewpoint

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-18913635

A manager working for G4S at the Olympic rowing and canoeing venue has told the BBC that security at the site is "a shambles".

The man, who did not want to be named, said radios given to staff at Eton Dorney Lake did not work, and they had to use their own mobiles.

He said there was a shortage of trained CCTV operators for the complex on the Berkshire-Buckinghamshire border.

G4S has been contacted by the BBC for a response but is yet to comment.

Speaking to BBC South's political editor Peter Henley, the Dorney Lake manager said: "Each day we're getting about a third the number of staff we expect, which is approximately a third the number of staff that should be rostered.

The manager said only a third of Dorney Lake security staff were turning up
"Everybody is stressed, everybody's worried and under strain - getting tetchy and snappy with each other.

"What we can't do is magic the missing staff to work - so everyone is stretched."

He said part of the CCTV system has already had to be replaced by army patrols, and a complete army takeover was "on the cards".

:idc:

[arista]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02282/pepsi-tee_2282752k.jpg
Only Coca cola T-Shirts permitted

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02282/bigGovtTee_2282763k.jpg
Nothing political


Banned from Entry
full 10 items list
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/picturegalleries/9415278/10-things-you-cant-take-in-to-the-Olympics.html?frame=2282752

[Omah]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=206475

Police in Glasgow and Manchester are to take on extra security roles at Olympic football venues owing to gaps left by private contractor G4S.

Strathclyde Police chief Stephen House has said his force will now run security for matches at Hampden Park.

And Greater Manchester Police will fill gaps in security for fixtures played at Old Trafford.

That deployment comes after only nine G4S recruits out of up to 140 attended a Manchester training session.

G4S would have been responsible for day-to-day security at both stadiums as well as training venues used by teams playing there.

Hampden Park and Old Trafford are two of the six venues being used around the UK for the Olympics men's and women's football tournaments.

Meanwhile, shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper is to write to Home Secretary Theresa May to demand "full disclosure" about events leading up to the G4S staff shortage.

Strathclyde Police's decision comes after it said on Monday that extra officers were being drafted in because G4S confirmed it was not able to meet its commitments at Hampden Park and training venues in Scotland.

In a statement, Strathclyde Police said: "Following recent developments surrounding security arrangements for the Olympic 2012 events in Glasgow, Chief Constable Stephen House has decided Strathclyde Police will assume primary responsibility for security at Olympic venues.

:idc:

[arista]

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177184-1429C439000005DC-299_964x609.jpg

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177184-14296F8D000005DC-368_964x593.jpg

This post is nothing to do with Fecking G4S


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177184/Olympics-2012-Torchbearer-Amelia-17-holds-torch-aloft-London-Eye.html

[michael21]

i going to some of the events arista your not :hmph:

[Omah]

London 2012: G4S replaced at Newcastle's St James' Park

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-18959672

Security firm G4S is being replaced at St James' Park in Newcastle and will not manage Olympic football matches taking place there.

Instead local companies will be contracted to patrol the stadium due to a "significant shortfall" in G4S staff, Newcastle City Council said.

It said Games organiser Locog had approached the council to help fill the gaps created by "logistical issues".

The first football match will take place at St James' Park on Thursday.

Newcastle City Council was approached by Locog to put it in touch with companies who could supply security last week.

Steven Savage, from the council, said: "The vetting procedure has been security industry approved and [checks] are thorough.

"Many of the staff will have worked in very similar situations and there will be a heavy briefing days before the games."

The council said about 500 staff from the North East would patrol the 52,000-seat stadium, check bags, marshal spectators and carry out routine public safety and security functions.

Northumbria Police officers were called in to provide extra Olympic security at Gateshead's Hilton Hotel after G4S failed to supply enough staff on 16 July.

Omnishambles ..... :bored: