View Full Version : Deana It's not just Deana who is easily swayed
jegmeister
11-07-2012, 10:44 PM
It seems some people on this Forum are. Someone who has had to put up with appalling bullying and intimidation, handled herself brilliantly and with great dignity but, because she can't see what we can see, is starting to doubt herself. Who can blame her after what she's been through?
I find nothing unusual in this whatsoever. But in the perfect world that some posters on here inhabit this is a now a crime - and she is "untrustworthy", Let me say this - I trust her a hell of a lot more than I do most people in there and that includes Lauren who has been quite willing to play both sides if she needs to.
I'd hate to have some people on this Forum as friends - do one thing wrong and history would be rewritten at a stroke to put you in a bad light all of a sudden. Quite incredible.
InOne
11-07-2012, 10:52 PM
Nice, insult the forum memebers :rolleyes:
Deana knew what she was doing and was definitely planting seeds. THEN hatching a plan with Shiv to set Lauren up. Her mask has slipped and it's worse than anything Lauren has done.
Amy Jade
11-07-2012, 10:56 PM
Nice, insult the forum memebers :rolleyes
Hardly.
InOne
11-07-2012, 10:58 PM
Hardly.
I was very offended I'll have know and shall be taking the matter up with the highest power :hmph:
Rustic bauble
11-07-2012, 10:58 PM
One word....MANIPULATOR!!
Amy Jade
11-07-2012, 11:00 PM
I was very offended I'll have know and shall be taking the matter up with the highest power :hmph:
:joker:
jegmeister
11-07-2012, 11:02 PM
The truth may offend people but it has to be said. Who was it that had the guts to say openly to Luke S is his relationship with Ashleigh was fake? Deana of course. Noone else has - certainly not the gutless Adam, Luke A and Lauren group.
Beverley
11-07-2012, 11:03 PM
Some/most people are ready to admit when they have misjudged a character. I made a post about Deana last night as a new member and was instantly mostly flamed for daring to call her sly etc. I wasn't expecting a mere 24 hours later for Deana to be proving my instincts about her correctly. The Conor matter was dealt with weeks ago. It's easy to bounce the 'bullying' term around but yet those who are not keen on her or have seen her in a new light, agree she's being sly or playing a victim, suddenly these posts are "so boring and old". Time to take the Deana blinkers off.
InOne
11-07-2012, 11:04 PM
The truth may offend people but it has to be said. Who was it that had the guts to say openly to Luke S is his relationship with Ashleigh was fake? Deana of course. Noone else has - certainly not the gutless Adam, Luke A and Lauren group.
Maybe they just don't care? Deana only did it to score points. She also told Luke S about the protein shake out of pure spite for Arron.
dathadiguy
11-07-2012, 11:05 PM
It seems some people on this Forum are. Someone who has had to put up with appalling bullying and intimidation, handled herself brilliantly and with great dignity but, because she can't see what we can see, is starting to doubt herself. Who can blame her after what she's been through?
I find nothing unusual in this whatsoever. But in the perfect world that some posters on here inhabit this is a now a crime - and she is "untrustworthy", Let me say this - I trust her a hell of a lot more than I do most people in there and that includes Lauren who has been quite willing to play both sides if she needs to.
I'd hate to have some people on this Forum as friends - do one thing wrong and history would be rewritten at a stroke to put you in a bad light all of a sudden. Quite incredible.
Totally agree, such an over-reaction.
jegmeister
11-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Maybe they just don't care? Deana only did it to score points. She also told Luke S about the protein shake out of pure spite for Arron.
History being rewritten again. Luke S confronted her directly and so she defended herself. What would you do? Spinelessly cave in? I'm glad she fought back. It took a lot of guts.
InOne
11-07-2012, 11:08 PM
History being rewritten again. Luke S confronted her directly and so she defended herself. What would you do? Spinelessly cave in? I'm glad she fought back. It took a lot of guts.
She'd dug herself into a hole and had to get out of it. Her only choice was to be offensive.
In the Drunk Tank
11-07-2012, 11:09 PM
Some/most people are ready to admit when they have misjudged a character. I made a post about Deana last night as a new member and was instantly mostly flamed for daring to call her sly etc. I wasn't expecting a mere 24 hours later for Deana to be proving my instincts about her correctly. The Conor matter was dealt with weeks ago. It's easy to bounce the 'bullying' term around but yet those who are not keen on her or have seen her in a new light, agree she's being sly or playing a victim, suddenly these posts are "so boring and old". Time to take the Deana blinkers off.
Yep, it's now being made out this is a one off incident from completely out the blue but it isn't, it's a reflection of Deana's character and confirmed a lot of suspicions
In the Drunk Tank
11-07-2012, 11:10 PM
History being rewritten again. Luke S confronted her directly and so she defended herself. What would you do? Spinelessly cave in? I'm glad she fought back. It took a lot of guts.
She was forced into that position because Luke S was told what she said, it wasn't "having guts" it was her having been found out and forced into a corner
jegmeister
11-07-2012, 11:13 PM
She was forced into that position because Luke S was told what she said, it wasn't "having guts" it was her having been found out and forced into a corner
err..not at all. She could have lied and said she had never said it. Noone would have ever known either way. But she had the guts to fight back. History keeps being rewritten by some people that's for sure. Still if it suits your Agenda...
Beverley
11-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Yep, it's now being made out this is a one off incident from completely out the blue but it isn't, it's a reflection of Deana's character and confirmed a lot of suspicions
Exactly!!
Beverley
11-07-2012, 11:18 PM
err..not at all. She could have lied and said she had never said it. Noone would have ever known either way. But she had the guts to fight back. History keeps being rewritten by some people that's for sure. Still if it suits your Agenda...
Deana tried lying her way out of not telling Shiv to "stop being silly", even repeating several times she hadn't said it, then Ashleigh confirmed she also heard her say it. If Deana keeps getting caught out in lies her sly tatic's won't work. That should be on replay if you want to ensure I'm not re-writing history.
In the Drunk Tank
11-07-2012, 11:18 PM
err..not at all. She could have lied and said she had never said it. Noone would have ever known either way. But she had the guts to fight back. History keeps being rewritten by some people that's for sure. Still if it suits your Agenda...
Course they would have known she'd lied, because what she said had been reported to Ashleigh who then reported it back to Luke S
DanielLuis
11-07-2012, 11:21 PM
Nice, insult the forum memebers :rolleyes:
Deana knew what she was doing and was definitely planting seeds. THEN hatching a plan with Shiv to set Lauren up. Her mask has slipped and it's worse than anything Lauren has done.
Lauren keeps bitching about the other group but she os never able to confrontate them.
I'm sorry but Lauren really does play both groups....you're just biased not to see that.
Yayita
12-07-2012, 06:42 AM
Maybe they just don't care? Deana only did it to score points. She also told Luke S about the protein shake out of pure spite for Arron.
Inone, so now you are siding with the people that say Deana has been playing the victim and that she is sneaky because of one mistake? Lauren is my second fave but I wouldnt throw away all Deana has done just because of this.
Lauren is quite sneaky IMO.. But i understand shes your favorite and you arent being very objective at the moment
Jords
12-07-2012, 06:47 AM
Fantastic thread, keep em up!
Urban Cragou
12-07-2012, 06:50 AM
I agree.
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 06:58 AM
Nice, insult the forum memebers :rolleyes:
Deana knew what she was doing and was definitely planting seeds. THEN hatching a plan with Shiv to set Lauren up. Her mask has slipped and it's worse than anything Lauren has done.
Nice to see that people are finally seeing Deana true colours. She hasn't been bullied at all. She's just playing the victim card. :nono:
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 07:04 AM
Some/most people are ready to admit when they have misjudged a character. I made a post about Deana last night as a new member and was instantly mostly flamed for daring to call her sly etc. I wasn't expecting a mere 24 hours later for Deana to be proving my instincts about her correctly. The Conor matter was dealt with weeks ago. It's easy to bounce the 'bullying' term around but yet those who are not keen on her or have seen her in a new light, agree she's being sly or playing a victim, suddenly these posts are "so boring and old". Time to take the Deana blinkers off.
Deana hasn't even been bullied. It was only that incident and Conor knows he was wrong. She's playing the victim big time! :nono:
Gaynor186
12-07-2012, 07:10 AM
Throw away all she has done...? Take away the Conor rant (which she did not hear, but we did, which generated the enormous swell in popularity) and biting back with Arron and Luke S, what HAS she done??? Worries about her weight, worries whether she's made a right decision, shown NO loyalty to people who have befriended her and become a pawn of Shievonne.
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 07:11 AM
Throw away all she has done...? Take away the Conor rant (which she did not hear, but we did, which generated the enormous swell in popularity) and biting back with Arron and Luke S, what HAS she done??? Worries about her weight, worries whether she's made a right decision, shown NO loyalty to people who have befriended her and become a pawn of Shievonne.
Exactly. And she's such a great housemate? She's such a cold fish! :bored:
Urban Cragou
12-07-2012, 07:17 AM
I disagree. I know Deana's been annoying and dull but I don't buy this 'She's only playing the victim card' argument.
She has been bullied on a few occasions and I fail to see how Conor using profane language at her, etc, can't be described as bullying because it is.
I don't like her but there's no point denying things that are clearly true.
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 07:19 AM
I disagree. I know Deana's been annoying and dull but I don't buy this 'She's only playing the victim card' argument.
She has been bullied on a few occasions and I fail to see how Conor using profane language at her, etc, can't be described as bullying because it is.
I don't like her but there's no point denying things that are clearly true.
I don't think it's bullying. Conor just doesn't like Deana.
Urban Cragou
12-07-2012, 07:24 AM
I don't think it's bullying. Conor just doesn't like Deana.
It actually was bullying at some stage but as it is right now Conor simply doesn't like her.
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 07:25 AM
It actually was bullying at some stage but as it is right now Conor simply doesn't like her.
I don't think so. Conor went way over the top, but calling someone names isn't bullying. :shrug:
Tourmaline
12-07-2012, 10:29 AM
"appalling bullying and intimidation"? BB would have been taken off air and have far too much to lose to allow any of that behaviour in the House. Some people really need to keep a sense of perspective instead of blowing things out of all proportion. We have to remember that everything we see is heavily edited in order to keep the viewers entertained (less than 45 minutes out of a 24 hour period).
I'm not a fan of Conor, in fact he's probably one of my least favourite HMs, but to be fair I think he does try and keep away from Deana and have little interaction with her whereas Deana loves an argument and does seem to be the instigator of most of them.
This is a game show and this year, more than most, every single one of them are playing it.
realitytvsux
12-07-2012, 10:48 AM
Conor has definitely been bullying Deana. He hasn't spoken to her since the beginning of the show, he has muttered under his breath and snarled at her, he has encouraged others to nominate her.
Deana may have played up her victim role a bit, knowing it would create sympathy, but that doesn't change the fact that some of the others were out to get her.
Deana is not perfect and I think she has made a stupid mistake by listening to 'deranged' Siovenne but with the back biting and suspicious atmosphere in the house it's not surprising that she doesn't know who to trust anymore.
ChristmasNeeve
12-07-2012, 10:52 AM
The truth may offend people but it has to be said. Who was it that had the guts to say openly to Luke S is his relationship with Ashleigh was fake? Deana of course. Noone else has - certainly not the gutless Adam, Luke A and Lauren group.
Insulting Forum Members is against the rules, so no it doesn't really. Can you just make your points about HMs without insulting FMs in the process please.
ChristmasNeeve
12-07-2012, 10:56 AM
On topic, I like both Lauren and Deana so I was disappointed with Deana last night being all buddy buddy with Shievonne after all that stupid arguing yesterday but I do understand that it's probably very confusing in there and I think alot of them feel paranoid, especially with the likes of Shievonne making it worse.
MrWong
12-07-2012, 11:01 AM
"appalling bullying and intimidation"? BB would have been taken off air and have far too much to lose to allow any of that behaviour in the House. Some people really need to keep a sense of perspective instead of blowing things out of all proportion. We have to remember that everything we see is heavily edited in order to keep the viewers entertained (less than 45 minutes out of a 24 hour period).
I'm not a fan of Conor, in fact he's probably one of my least favourite HMs, but to be fair I think he does try and keep away from Deana and have little interaction with her whereas Deana loves an argument and does seem to be the instigator of most of them.
This is a game show and this year, more than most, every single one of them are playing it.
He may keep away from her but he's always got her name in his mouth.
She gets told what's being said and so confronts him to find out what his problem is. Can't see much wrong in that :shrug:
Urban Cragou
12-07-2012, 11:19 AM
I don't think so. Conor went way over the top, but calling someone names isn't bullying. :shrug:
That's precisely what it is, Vanessa.
Tourmaline
12-07-2012, 03:19 PM
He may keep away from her but he's always got her name in his mouth.
She gets told what's being said and so confronts him to find out what his problem is. Can't see much wrong in that :shrug:
There's nothing wrong with that at all but it's hardly the actions of a 'bullied and intimidated' victim
Yayita
12-07-2012, 03:34 PM
Oh no!! I think its happening.
BBUKLive: 3.33pm: Lauren and Deana are having a whispered conversation away from the group. BB asks them to turn their mics back up. #bbuklive
12-07-2012 03:34 PM
DEANA dont do it!!!
WozMan
12-07-2012, 04:02 PM
Ì'm sorry but after this incident Deana is clearly a puppet. Whats worse she is more likely to believe some one who plants **** in her head about other housemates(Shiv) than some one who is genuinely nice to her and doesn't try to push her into doing things (Lauren).
I am greatly disappointed in the way she is conspiring against Lauren with deluded Shievonne :(
Ì'm sorry but after this incident Deana is clearly a puppet. Whats worse she is more likely to believe some one who plants **** in her head about other housemates(Shiv) than some one who is genuinely nice to her and doesn't try to push her into doing things (Lauren).
I am greatly disappointed in the way she is conspiring against Lauren with deluded Shievonne :(
Considering all the so-called enemies she has already made, it is also a bit pathetic. If Lauren is guilty of anything, it is NOT standing up for herself, apart from if its ciggies or bacon that is! Deana and shievonne were at each others throats a DAY ago......as I SAY, PATHETIC.
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 04:20 PM
Ì'm sorry but after this incident Deana is clearly a puppet. Whats worse she is more likely to believe some one who plants **** in her head about other housemates(Shiv) than some one who is genuinely nice to her and doesn't try to push her into doing things (Lauren).
I am greatly disappointed in the way she is conspiring against Lauren with deluded Shievonne :(
She's shooting herself on the foot! Why can't she see that Shiv isn't her friend? :shrug:
JustKaz
12-07-2012, 04:38 PM
shievonne has completely manipulated and intimidated Deana. I'm afraid that with Deana confiding in Adam could be a downfall and is exactly what shievonne intended.
Santa's NaughtiNess
12-07-2012, 04:40 PM
shievonne has completely manipulated and intimidated Deana. I'm afraid that with Deana confiding in Adam could be a downfall and is exactly what shievonne intended.
Deana fans need to vote Shiv out. Otherwise she could get her evicted.
sarakss
12-07-2012, 04:46 PM
Throw away all she has done...? Take away the Conor rant (which she did not hear, but we did, which generated the enormous swell in popularity) and biting back with Arron and Luke S, what HAS she done??? Worries about her weight, worries whether she's made a right decision, shown NO loyalty to people who have befriended her and become a pawn of Shievonne.
Thank you! I've been saying this since the start of the show. Deana is a cold person and is not loyal to anyone. From HOUR 1, the friend she made in the house was Lydia and she nominated her shocking Lydia. And her 'evil eyes' reason for Victoria was just cruel and harsh coming from a woman.
Whenever you see her, she's always in a group but on the side. Getting close, but hardly getting involved. She's very calculating and stand-offish.
After the best mates contest with Becky, she turned it to be all about her. Anyone with common sense will see that Becky also called her her BM, so there should not have been an issue. When she thought Chris did not like she, she told Lydia it could be racism. She knew Shievonne was mad at her and rather than talking to one of the only friends she had in the house, she nominates her. WTF.
When someone likes her, she screws them over. When they don't like her, she's a victim. Why does anyone have to like you? She's full of herself and I would find a friendship with her emotionally draining.
Deana has given us insight into her true personality and it's funny people took this long to see it.
Another example is the stupid comments she makes to Becky regarding weight and food. Why doesn't she get it that whining to someone about the number of calories in something they're eating is bad form. To make it worse, she went and pulled out the can and read the label and went on to ask if she was not worried about calories. She just seems to cold and clueless when it comes to people. Similar to the evil eyes comment.
JustKaz
12-07-2012, 05:03 PM
Deana fans need to vote Shiv out. Otherwise she could get her evicted.
I shall be saving Connor (omg lol) I saved Deana last time and know by saving Connor I am helping Deana or even Adam,luke,Lauren for future. Deana better see the light by next noms, the above HM need her and she needs them.
PS this years bb for me is one of the best I say this because I have actually picked up the phone and voted this year lol.
Luke A to win though.
Moviefan
12-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Anyone Read the latest news?
She's been the focal point of so many arguments, it's no wonder Deana's constantly on a hunt to find out why.
Having received an ear-bashing during a Shievonnalogue and been on the sharp end of Conor's tongue since Day 1, it's been interesting watching Miss India UK come out of her shell and play the game the way the bulk of her fellow housemates are playing it. Today, she seems to have reached another level.
She weathered Shievonne's blast and now, after countless peace talks, the two are back on speaking terms. Today, as part of the Rules Are For Fools task, she even helped the former playmate out when she struggled to eat with the ludicrous tongs that became compulsory when it came time to masticate. The two bonded in this tender scene, with Shievonne playing baby and Deana playing mummy, though it may have seemed to some minds that Deana had forgotten just how sharp that argumentative blast was.
But those who thought that way will have missed Deana's earlier, hushed conversation with Luke A. The topic of Shievonne was discussed and it became clear that Deana hadn't forgiven, nor forgotten. Instead she's decided to take everything on board, be at peace with everyone around her, and keep in mind any fractious scenes when previously cantankerous housemates attempt to build bridges with her.
That thought was compounded when she spoke to Lauren later, with Becky joining in a little later.
"We're doing alright", said Lauren.
"We'll be okay", replied Deana. "Especially after tomorrow" she went on, indicating she'll be happy if either Shievonne or Conor leave.
Lauren picked up the ball and ran with it. "I'd be happy if both went. I'm sick of Caroline too."
Only a day ago, Deana asked Luke A if Lauren was trustworthy after hearing bad reports from Shievonne. Clearly the girl from Birmingham did the necessary fact-checking regarding Lauren's good character and decided to ditch Shievonne's advice.
Watch out, everybody. Deana's tactics are finally coming out to play.
I still like Deana, i was shocked what she did yesterday but it didn't total fall for it!
I think it all depends on tonight Highlight show!
Moviefan
12-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Anyone Read the latest news?
She's been the focal point of so many arguments, it's no wonder Deana's constantly on a hunt to find out why.
Having received an ear-bashing during a Shievonnalogue and been on the sharp end of Conor's tongue since Day 1, it's been interesting watching Miss India UK come out of her shell and play the game the way the bulk of her fellow housemates are playing it. Today, she seems to have reached another level.
She weathered Shievonne's blast and now, after countless peace talks, the two are back on speaking terms. Today, as part of the Rules Are For Fools task, she even helped the former playmate out when she struggled to eat with the ludicrous tongs that became compulsory when it came time to masticate. The two bonded in this tender scene, with Shievonne playing baby and Deana playing mummy, though it may have seemed to some minds that Deana had forgotten just how sharp that argumentative blast was.
But those who thought that way will have missed Deana's earlier, hushed conversation with Luke A. The topic of Shievonne was discussed and it became clear that Deana hadn't forgiven, nor forgotten. Instead she's decided to take everything on board, be at peace with everyone around her, and keep in mind any fractious scenes when previously cantankerous housemates attempt to build bridges with her.
That thought was compounded when she spoke to Lauren later, with Becky joining in a little later.
"We're doing alright", said Lauren.
"We'll be okay", replied Deana. "Especially after tomorrow" she went on, indicating she'll be happy if either Shievonne or Conor leave.
Lauren picked up the ball and ran with it. "I'd be happy if both went. I'm sick of Caroline too."
Only a day ago, Deana asked Luke A if Lauren was trustworthy after hearing bad reports from Shievonne. Clearly the girl from Birmingham did the necessary fact-checking regarding Lauren's good character and decided to ditch Shievonne's advice.
Watch out, everybody. Deana's tactics are finally coming out to play.
I still like Deana, i was shocked what she did yesterday, i don't think she total fooled by shivoevil.
I think it all depends on tonight Highlight show! (So Did Deana lied to Shiv about the plan!)
Marcus.
12-07-2012, 05:08 PM
Anyone Read the latest news?
I still like Deana, i was shocked what she did yesterday but it didn't total fall for it!
I think it all depends on tonight Highlight show!
yeah hopfully she see right though her
MrWong
12-07-2012, 06:05 PM
There's nothing wrong with that at all but it's hardly the actions of a 'bullied and intimidated' victim
She was intimidated and bullied the first few weeks.
Since beating Lydia she's started to find her feet.
MrWong
12-07-2012, 06:08 PM
Seems people have got ahead of themselves in their haste to paint Deana as 'evil' if the latest news is anything to go by.
WCR1942
12-07-2012, 06:25 PM
How can people say Conor was "calling someone names".
He was threatening a very vicious sexual assault; this is a criminal offence.
Any man that nasty does not change in just a few weeks.
Yayita
12-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Way to go!!!
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