Conor vs Deana

[Scream]

Don't think this has actually been done but I feel like seeing Conor get slaughtered. :joker:

[JamesBond]

This will happen anyways, Conor will be put up by the outsiders and Deana will be put up by the idiots.

[fruit_cake]

I'm not so sure he would get slaughtered.

[coolface]

deana but I don't like either very much

[joeysteele]

I would support Conor likely.

[Yayita]

For some reason i think Luke A or Lauren may be up

[Patricia4]

Coner

[Black Dagger]

Deana.

He's a common, boring cave-man.

[sampvt]

The forum polls showed Shiv well in front of Conor last week. All this poll shows is that the real voters that actually pay money to vote, will make Conor their champion. At this moment there are a lot of big hitters on here that favour Deana and are voicing their opinions daily in any which way they can.

The Conor supporters amongst us are, for the most part, quiet due to the very nature of the vitriolic way we are treated when we try to defend him, so Deana will always rule supreme on here as the Forums champion but when push comes to shove and the votes are counted, the prestine atributes of the killer queen will fade into obscurity and the big dope will show her the way home.

2 weeks ago I was hoping Adam would win and whilst I hope he still does, I have been forced into championing Coner's cause through several well aimed kicks in the teeth and now see a winning line in sight.

A couple of days ago Ulster were hailing king Billy, today it is time to '' HAIL KING CONOR'' the peoples champion.

[Scotty07]

Don't fully trust Deana, but still no contest.

[MeMyselfAndI]

The forum polls showed Shiv well in front of Conor last week. All this poll shows is that the real voters that actually pay money to vote, will make Conor their champion. At this moment there are a lot of big hitters on here that favour Deana and are voicing their opinions daily in any which way they can.

The Conor supporters amongst us are, for the most part, quiet due to the very nature of the vitriolic way we are treated when we try to defend him, so Deana will always rule supreme on here as the Forums champion but when push comes to shove and the votes are counted, the prestine atributes of the killer queen will fade into obscurity and the big dope will show her the way home.

2 weeks ago I was hoping Adam would win and whilst I hope he still does, I have been forced into championing Coner's cause through several well aimed kicks in the teeth and now see a winning line in sight.

A couple of days ago Ulster were hailing king Billy, today it is time to '' HAIL KING CONOR'' the peoples champion.

I'm guessing you forgot that Deana topped the vote against Conor..?
Everything you posted was complete drivel.

[Gillian-73]

Deana

[Adamw92]

Deana, obviously

[Yayita]

I'm guessing you forgot that Deana topped the vote against Conor..?
Everything you posted was complete drivel.

While Conor has gained support, it still isnt enough to beat Deana yet.

[MeMyselfAndI]

While Conor has gained support, it still isnt enough to beat Deana yet.

I agree, I think Conor can beat Ashleigh & Caroline in the vote & possibly Becky/Scott/Sara.

[MrWong]

Don't think this has actually been done but I feel like seeing Conor get slaughtered. :joker:

As good a reason as any :joker:

[ransom]

The forum polls showed Shiv well in front of Conor last week.

Uh, no, the only polls She topped Conor on were "who's going to go?" polls. Anyone with any common sense could see that Shievonne was always going to go before Conor after the way she behaved. Exactly the same with Arron. They hanged upon their own ropes while Conor sat back and kept his head down, to a degree at least. He knew they were ruining their chances, too.

Everything you posted was complete drivel.

He ain't gonna stop anytime soon :p It's frightening how much alike he and chuff_me_dizzy are in their views and the way they express them.

[Yayita]

Uh, no, the only polls She topped Conor on were "who's going to go?" polls. Anyone with any common sense could see that Shievonne was always going to go before Conor after the way she behaved. Exactly the same with Arron. They hanged upon their own ropes while Conor sat back and kept his head down, to a degree at least. He knew they were ruining their chances, too.



He ain't gonna stop anytime soon :p It's frightening how much alike he and chuff_me_dizzy are in their views and the way they express them.

LOL, they do seem alike, but I think Chuffy is probably on some island on holiday and having a blast.

[sampvt]

I'm guessing you forgot that Deana topped the vote against Conor..?
Everything you posted was complete drivel.

You assume that she topped the vote, nobody got the results so it might be bb looking for sensationalism. Nobody will ever convince me Becky beat Conor in that poll so your assumption of my work being drivel is somewhat misguided but if it makes you feel any better I will concede until the real figures come out after the show when Conor is counting his lolly.

[Adamw92]

You assume that she topped the vote, nobody got the results so it might be bb looking for sensationalism. Nobody will ever convince me Becky beat Conor in that poll so your assumption of my work being drivel is somewhat misguided but if it makes you feel any better I will concede until the real figures come out after the show when Conor is counting his lolly.

I don't think they're allowed to lie about things like that, especially when it comes down to how the public's votes have gone, I think you just don't like the fact that Conor barely even survived that eviction, the fact is Deana did top the votes and Becky did come 2nd in the vote.

[MrWong]

The forum polls showed Shiv well in front of Conor last week. All this poll shows is that the real voters that actually pay money to vote, will make Conor their champion. At this moment there are a lot of big hitters on here that favour Deana and are voicing their opinions daily in any which way they can.

Deana beat Conor in the eviction. Real voters did that.

The Conor supporters amongst us are, for the most part, quiet due to the very nature of the vitriolic way we are treated when we try to defend him, so Deana will always rule supreme on here as the Forums champion but when push comes to shove and the votes are counted, the prestine atributes of the killer queen will fade into obscurity and the big dope will show her the way home.

Why not just say "It's hard to defend Conor because he's a massive ****"
It would be alot more honest.

[MeMyselfAndI]

You assume that she topped the vote, nobody got the results so it might be bb looking for sensationalism. Nobody will ever convince me Becky beat Conor in that poll so your assumption of my work being drivel is somewhat misguided but if it makes you feel any better I will concede until the real figures come out after the show when Conor is counting his lolly.

Deana did top the vote... Becky beat him...
It's like saying Aaron didn't actually win. Pathetic. So therefore I don't assume.
Ch5 don't release the figures..

[Maia]

No contest, Conor hands down

[Jords]

The forum polls showed Shiv well in front of Conor last week. All this poll shows is that the real voters that actually pay money to vote, will make Conor their champion. At this moment there are a lot of big hitters on here that favour Deana and are voicing their opinions daily in any which way they can.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206172&highlight=tibb+poll

That is not 'well in front'

Also,

http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/95612-poll-big-brother-2012-eviction-shievonne-v-conor-who-should-go.html

with 4,255 votes cast, has Conor in lead.. by 1 vote.

[coolface]

how the hell did aaron win last year, my mind is actually blown about that

[Marcus.]

queen deana

[sampvt]

how the hell did aaron win last year, my mind is actually blown about that

Aaron didnt win last year, his brothers internet campaign and the cheap vote system got him in front because of block voting. The peoples champion was Jay but the great majority got sucked in by his gameplan which was only uncovered after the game was over. This year its beginning to look like the same same again with Deana.

[coolface]

Aaron didnt win last year, his brothers internet campaign and the cheap vote system got him in front because of block voting. The peoples champion was Jay but the great majority got sucked in by his gameplan which was only uncovered after the game was over. This year its beginning to look like the same same again with Deana.

I remember seeing loads of threads on digital spy full of his fans saying they were voting like 500 times each, was really odd (and telling) seeing the winner of bb exiting to relentless booes, gotta be the only time that's happened, also I agree with you jay should have won, me and you seem to like the same housemates

[Black Dagger]

Aaron was one of the only decent HM's last year, that's why he won.

When he was in a final with the biggest snooze-fest known to woman, a fake ass bitch who's only moment was getting a few spray tans and Jay (the less said the better) he was never going to lose.

[sampvt]

I posted some time ago that Deana was becoming this years Aaron and nobody believed me. Last year all the lonely cyber hunters latched onto Aaron to give their sad lives purpose and coupled with the real forum posters and some of the public, it made him unbeatable.

[Jords]

I posted some time ago that Deana was becoming this years Aaron and nobody believed me. Last year all the lonely cyber hunters latched onto Aaron to give their sad lives purpose and coupled with the real forum posters and some of the public, it made him unbeatable.

:sleep:

[MrWong]

I posted some time ago that Deana was becoming this years Aaron and nobody believed me. Last year all the lonely cyber hunters latched onto Aaron to give their sad lives purpose and coupled with the real forum posters and some of the public, it made him unbeatable.

Ah. These must be the debating skills you were on about earlier.

[sampvt]

Ah. These must be the debating skills you were on about earlier.

try something new Mr Wrong, hit the little button on the top left marked new thread and come up ith something intelligent instead of cherry picking other peoples comments. Your comments are borderline aggressive and very patronising, something we all hate on here.

[ransom]

Ah. These must be the debating skills you were on about earlier.

:elephant:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Deana obvs

[MrWong]

try something new Mr Wrong, hit the little button on the top left marked new thread and come up ith something intelligent instead of cherry picking other peoples comments. Your comments are borderline aggressive and very patronising, something we all hate on here.

It'll never catch on :idc:

Seriously, do you ever answer points put to you?

A poster put forward a very good post about Conor, with loads of points to debate and you replied with "Bet you wouldn't say it to his face" or WTTE.

I've put a few myself. You could reply to those rather than lecturing me.
Or put me on ignore.

[InOne]

Deana, don't really like her as a person but her dips in the pool make up for the rest of the nonsense.

[sampvt]

It'll never catch on :idc:

Seriously, do you ever answer points put to you?

A poster put forward a very good post about Conor, with loads of points to debate and you replied with "Bet you wouldn't say it to his face" or WTTE.

I've put a few myself. You could reply to those rather than lecturing me.
Or put me on ignore.


Put you on ignore ???? (now you have me cherry picking lol) Is there a button I can push to get rid of you, or do you mean I need to read your drivle first then ignore you afterwards. Your English has me confused.

[Scream]

We love you deana, we do, we love you deana we do, we love you deana we do, oh deana we love you..

not even a huge fan but Conor is kinda disgusting..

[jet]

70/10 in favour of Deana. Sounds about right. Conor would be gone if he was up against her. I'm not a Deana fan, but give me her any day against the ego manic imbecile.

[rinkydinkpanther]

Aaron was one of the only decent HM's last year, that's why he won.

When he was in a final with the biggest snooze-fest known to woman, a fake ass bitch who's only moment was getting a few spray tans and Jay (the less said the better) he was never going to lose.

I politely disagree. I thought arron was by far the worst and most uniteresting winner ever. He was thoroughly spiteful most of the time too.

[rinkydinkpanther]

70/10 in favour of Deana. Sounds about right. Conor would be gone if he was up against her. I'm not a Deana fan, but give me her any day against the ego manic imbecile.

I dont like connor either, but deana kept pushing it yet again and she is shooting herself in the foot looking to get an argument then go to cry, she also started insulting connor today, again with "youre a horrible person a horrible man etc etc Im lost a lot of respect for deana, she has also caused a lot of trouble carrying tales....dont get me wrong connor is not my cup of tea, but she is not innocent and she is going out of her way to make him look bad and make herself look a victim...she is disappointing at the moment...she simply isnt doing anything else but trying to be the victim

[JTM45]

Aaron was an extremely deserving winner.........that's why he, uhhh, WON!!!!!
These lame theories about his brother's voting campaign, blah blah blah!!!

He beat Jay because Jay was an only slightly less thuggish Geordie version of Conor and 99.9999% of the time the good people always beat the thick, thuggish dullards and thank god they do or it would be a terrible reflection on the British viewing public!

And, mark my word, it WILL happen again this year!
A genuine, good person will win and Keeonor will be paddling his punctured dinghy back across the Irish Sea (if he can work out how the oars work!) hopefully with Keearoline onboard!:xyxwave::joker:

[rinkydinkpanther]

Aaron was an extremely deserving winner.........that's why he, uhhh, WON!!!!!
These lame theories about his brother's voting campaign, blah blah blah!!!

He beat Jay because Jay was an only slightly less thuggish Geordie version of Conor and 99.9999% of the time the good people always beat the thick, thuggish dullards and thank god they do or it would be a terrible reflection on the British viewing public!

And, mark my word, it WILL happen again this year!
A genuine, good person will win and Keeonor will be paddling his punctured dinghy back across the Irish Sea (if he can work out how the oars work!) hopefully with Keearoline onboard!:xyxwave::joker:

no one likes caroline or connor so we are agreed on that
it was hard to decipher why arron hated so many people last year as we dont see the 24 hour show....the fact he ended up with faye a year later as did jay and louise a year on reflects well on all 4 imho
jay wasnt so bad, certainly not like connor
i just found arron mind bogglingly uniteresting

[coolface]

aaron was just so negative and sulking constantly who sucked the life out of everything in that house, he was like this big black cloud of doom in the room that would soak up any fun they were having, constantly sulking, I remember one time when they got letters from home and they were all supposed to read them out in front of each other and aaron refused to sit and listen to anyone's letter and was just sulking in the corner while other peoples' letters were getting read out, so rude, like a black hole making the whole thing so depressing, ugh!

[vortex]

Deana, in fact I'd support anyone against Conor, he's absolutely vile and full of hatred.

[JTM45]

That's just your opinion of Aaron Coolface, because you obviously didn't like him!
If that's what he genuinely was like he wouldn't have won, which he did by a MASSIVE margin!!!!

He was an intelligent, funny, caring guy who was there to make a better life for himself and his son and as well as succeeding at that he also met and formed a lasting relationship with (in my opinion) the best looking and most genuine girl in there.

If you'd have rather seen a thick as **** geordie who enjoyed sh!tting in freezers and could barely control his aggression (hmmmmm?? sound familiar ?) win then that's great for you, but thank god the majority of viewers didn't share that opinion and won't again this year! :thumbs:

[rayheartbliss]

ohh sh*t look at the poll

[Yayita]

That's just your opinion of Aaron Coolface, because you obviously didn't like him!
If that's what he genuinely was like he wouldn't have won, which he did by a MASSIVE margin!!!!

He was an intelligent, funny, caring guy who was there to make a better life for himself and his son and as well as succeeding at that he also met and formed a lasting relationship with (in my opinion) the best looking and most genuine girl in there.

If you'd have rather seen a thick as **** geordie who enjoyed sh!tting in freezers and could barely control his aggression (hmmmmm?? sound familiar ?) win then that's great for you, but thank god the majority of viewers didn't share that opinion and won't again this year! :thumbs:

I disagree, aaron was not niceat all, stroppy, angry, sulking all the time, fake showmance, talked to the cameras... I disliked him.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Conor all the way! I don't trust Deana at all! :dance:

[JTM45]

I disagree, aaron was not niceat all, stroppy, angry, sulking all the time, fake showmance, talked to the cameras... I disliked him.

If it was a 'showmance' Yayita then why do they still live together and why have they just opened a business together ?
And everyone talks to the cameras, without exception! You're on tv, there are cameras and it's a way of getting your views and frustrations across to the public.
On top of that Aaron had reasons to be stroppy and sulky, maybe not as much as he did, but everyone's different and reacts to situations differently. He was treated appallingly by Big Brother! When they realized they couldn't stop him winning they even took half of the prize money off him ffs!!!

I'm not expecting you to change your opinions of him and i certainly won't be changing mine but you've gotta' realize that enough people saw what i saw in him to vote for him to win and they did so in huge numbers!

It makes no difference that the crowd acted like assholes, they do every week and you've gotta' remember that it was a widely known fact last year that bus loads of Geordies were being shipped down every week organized by Jay's crazy fame-hungry mother. They mean nothing and the way they behaved says far more about them than it did about Aaron!

Anyway, this is all way off-topic.
Deana's gonna' trounce Conor, in this poll and in this year's BB :thumbs:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

If it was a 'showmance' Yayita then why do they still live together and why have they just opened a business together ?
And everyone talks to the cameras, without exception! You're on tv, there are cameras and it's a way of getting your views and frustrations across to the public.
On top of that Aaron had reasons to be stroppy and sulky, maybe not as much as he did, but everyone's different and reacts to situations differently. He was treated appallingly by Big Brother! When they realized they couldn't stop him winning they even took half of the prize money off him ffs!!!

I'm not expecting you to change your opinions of him and i certainly won't be changing mine but you've gotta' realize that enough people saw what i saw in him to vote for him to win and they did so in huge numbers!

It makes no difference that the crowd acted like assholes, they do every week and you've gotta' remember that it was a widely known fact last year that bus loads of Geordies were being shipped down every week organized by Jay's crazy fame-hungry mother. They mean nothing and the way they behaved says far more about them than it did about Aaron!

Anyway, this is all way off-topic.
Deana's gonna' trounce Conor, in this poll and in this year's BB :thumbs:

I think Conor support is growing. I love that he's wising up to her game and staying away from her. If he carries on like this he'll be in the final for sure! :amazed:

[Yayita]

If it was a 'showmance' Yayita then why do they still live together and why have they just opened a business together ?
And everyone talks to the cameras, without exception! You're on tv, there are cameras and it's a way of getting your views and frustrations across to the public.
On top of that Aaron had reasons to be stroppy and sulky, maybe not as much as he did, but everyone's different and reacts to situations differently. He was treated appallingly by Big Brother! When they realized they couldn't stop him winning they even took half of the prize money off him ffs!!!

I'm not expecting you to change your opinions of him and i certainly won't be changing mine but you've gotta' realize that enough people saw what i saw in him to vote for him to win and they did so in huge numbers!

It makes no difference that the crowd acted like assholes, they do every week and you've gotta' remember that it was a widely known fact last year that bus loads of Geordies were being shipped down every week organized by Jay's crazy fame-hungry mother. They mean nothing and the way they behaved says far more about them than it did about Aaron!

Anyway, this is all way off-topic.
Deana's gonna' trounce Conor, in this poll and in this year's BB :thumbs:

A showmance by defenition is a relationship that starts on a tv show.... But yes this is off topic, I really dont care about him or faye?

[JTM45]

A showmance by defenition is a relationship that starts on a tv show.... But yes this is off topic, I really dont care about him or faye?

This is actually taken straight from the actual wikipedia definition Yayita;
"........and between reality show contestants or participants for the running period of the show."

Way,WAY off-topic!!!

[MrWong]

Put you on ignore ???? (now you have me cherry picking lol) Is there a button I can push to get rid of you, or do you mean I need to read your drivle first then ignore you afterwards. Your English has me confused.

There's an ignore function. Either use it or quit lecturing me on forum etiquette.

Hope that was simple enough for you :xyxwave:

[Yayita]

There's an ignore function. Either use it or quit lecturing me on forum etiquette.

Hope that was simple enough for you :xyxwave:

Mrwong, I happen to love your posts :love:

You should start ignoring some of these peeps.

[MrWong]

Mrwong, I happen to love your posts :love:

You should start ignoring some of these peeps.

Thanks Yayita, ditto.

I've never had to use the ignore function. I'm pretty thick skinned. :spin:

[Yayita]

Thanks Yayita, ditto.

I've never had to use the ignore function. I'm pretty thick skinned. :spin:

Theres an ignore function?? Where? I just dont read their post or respond to them. Im not here to argue with these people.

[MrWong]

Theres an ignore function?? Where? I just dont read their post or respond to them. Im not here to argue with these people.

Actually, i'm just assuming there is, like on DigiSpy.

[joeysteele]

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

[Yayita]

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

By the same token, Emma would know the numbes too dont you think? Why is Jamie East the all knowing oracle?

[Marcus.]

Deana

[MrWong]

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

I didn't see any Arron/Conor fans saying they'd vote for each.

Saw plenty of Deana fans chucking votes Becca's way though. There was even a joint thread on DS to get both Deana and Becca to top the vote.

Last year Aaron topping the vote was talked down, in much the same way you are doing now and look how that turned out.

As for Jamie, he's not a great example really. Up until a few weeks ago he was still saying 'up for nomination'. Also, if he would be likely to know the votes, wouldn't Emma too? Why would only Jamie know? Sorry that doesn't make much sense.

[MrWong]

By the same token, Emma would know the numbes too dont you think? Why is Jamie East the all knowing oracle?

That's what i'm thinking.

She's higher up the food chain than Jamie East.

[joeysteele]

By the same token, Emma would know the numbes too dont you think? Why is Jamie East the all knowing oracle?

Because he has so much more involvement with BB overall, he even got to select 3 originally rejected housemates to put to the public to vote on to go in after Victoria's eviction.
He has more input overall, Emma is just a presenter, even Brian doesn't get to know the percentage breakdowns it would seem and he is the main presenter.

My question is and I take nothing away from Deana and her winning that 4 way eviction but why would Jamie say, she is not as popular with the public as people and the housemates believe,just after winning that 4 way eviction.
Had she really run away with the votes, no one could have even hinted she may not be as popular as people think.

Jamie East gets on my nerves but sadly he has a lot more to do with BB than many realise in my view.
He also had a big interest in that 4 way battle too, his 'housemate' Becky was up for eviction too.

[Marcus.]

If that happens queen deana for the win

[sampvt]

I wouldn't put great faith in the fact that Deana won the 4 way battle, if we knew the percentages breakdown it would be easier to see where they all stood.

I had to accept Arron going and I do know a lot of people who split their votes between Arron and Conor thinking they were helping Conor and that Arron was safe, even those on here who were anti Arron,thought he was safe.I have found that a bad idea to have really as to housemates up for eviction.

Jamie East on bbbots, in response to Emma, who said Deana must be the strongest there now after winning 2 evictions and the 4 way one. Surprisingly Jamie East then said, not necessarily, she is not as popular with the public that people or the housemates believe.
Now, he will likely know the pecentage breakdown of the voting in that 4 way eviction,for some reason they are not now telling us them as they did in the first 3 weeks.

It is not inconceivable then,that in fact all 4 housemates in that 4 way eviction could all have got in the 20%+ region of votes.There could have been as little as only 6% between 1st and 4th place.

They don't now tell us if the voting is close or whatever anymore, so while I admit all the above is guess work never-the less Jamie did say Deana is not as popular as people think with the public,there must be a reason he said that, had she run away with the 4 way eviction result,he couldn't have had any basis to say that.

Joey, great point mate, i never thought of it that way. I posted that the votes could have been close due to the absence of voting stats but it is clear that the results were closer than we thought. I have a friend in the programme and even she said the percentages were not being given out to the public because endamol didnt want complacency but she knew the tally on the 4 way votes were very close and untill late that afternoon nobody was rehearsing music or questions. The one thing she did tell us was that a late push saved Conor.

There is one thing for sure here, the more Deana pushes Conor to an argumnet, the bigger his support becomes. I think she is ahead as of now but all we need is for her to do one more round of back stabbing and for conor to play the fool a bit like Jay Mcray last year. Our votes this year are expensive so a slight swing is recognisable. One other thing o can tell you all is that the voting revenue is way down this year as opposed to last year even with the 7p votes last year. That isnt helping endamol any. head to head evictions are bad for business so expect a double eviction this week and several candidates up. Hopefully Deana will be on the list but i think its more likely to be caroline and lauren with maybe Becky this week.

[sampvt]

That's what i'm thinking.

She's higher up the food chain than Jamie East.

You are so wrong when you say that. She might have a thicker wage packet but Jamie is there every waking hour and has a great deal of influence on the program. He is getting stronger by the day down there and it wont be long before he gets a prime spot and outs lavine who is a nightmare. Last week she ade 19 verbal bloopers in one show and last night she even sent the wrong VT info out. She suffers badly with Nerves and her verbal cock ups hurt her.

jamie knows the percentages as does Emma but Emma comes in, gets glammed up and presents. The 3 hardest workers down there are jamie, Ian and the little knee socks girl whos name escapes me. Emma is super fit but is more of a figurehead than a worker.

[JTM45]

My question is and I take nothing away from Deana and her winning that 4 way eviction but why would Jamie say, she is not as popular with the public as people and the housemates believe,just after winning that 4 way eviction.


Because he's a BB puppet (and a total Dick imo)!
He thinks by saying stuff like this (which he does regularly) it will make people less confident in her and therefore vote more etc. etc.
He said many similar things about Aaron last year and was repeatedly proved wrong (or to have been lying!).

BOTS and it's presenters/guests seem to be just an extension of the BB spin machine these days. They often play down or help cover up awkward situations at BB request it would appear.:bored:

[Petershaw1984]

Its a landslide

[joeysteele]

I didn't see any Arron/Conor fans saying they'd vote for each.

Saw plenty of Deana fans chucking votes Becca's way though. There was even a joint thread on DS to get both Deana and Becca to top the vote.

Last year Aaron topping the vote was talked down, in much the same way you are doing now and look how that turned out.

As for Jamie, he's not a great example really. Up until a few weeks ago he was still saying 'up for nomination'. Also, if he would be likely to know the votes, wouldn't Emma too? Why would only Jamie know? Sorry that doesn't make much sense.

If you read my post throroughly again, you will see I say nothing as to people on here splitting their votes between Arron and Conor, what I said was, I 'know' a lot of people who did that, meaning people I know of personally.All I said was that even those who didn't like Arron on here believed he would be safe anyway.

If you think Jamie East gets no other bits of knowledge fine. To me, it doesn't make sense for him to come on the show just after a 4way eviction battle had been done and then say the winner is 'not' as popular with the public as people believe she is.
That set me asking questions as to why he'd say that and more to the point why Emma didn't contradict him or even challenge him on it either.

Back to Arron and Conor and the voting, I was a really strong Arron supporter, even I thought though about also voting for Conor to help him,however past BB series have shown me that surprises happen all the time and I put all my votes to Arron, however again I repeat, I 'know' loads of people personally who did split their votes between the 2 guys hoping to help Conor and believing Arron was well safe.
One of them split 50 votes between them,had only Arron or Conor been up those votes would have gone to whoever was up.

Last year,never at any time did any presenter or Jamie East ever say Aaron was not as popular with the public as people believe,so your comparison is way out, as in this series it has been said as to Deana who won a 4 way battle.

If you think she is that invincible then why should anyone be bothered if she was up again, she should walk over anyone if she is as popular as you may think she is with the public, as opposed to someone saying who is heavily connected to the show, who for no reason I can see than he must have a bit of info to back him up on it,that in fact she isn't.

Had he for instance instead said, oh yes Deana is now in the position where she could beat anyone, you would 'possibly' be crowing about that statement to high heaven,possibly even saying,well he should know that too.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Theres an ignore function?? Where? I just dont read their post or respond to them. Im not here to argue with these people.

Actually, i'm just assuming there is, like on DigiSpy.

Yeah if you just go to someone's user profile and then click "user lists" there's an option to add them to your ignore list

[MrWong]

You are so wrong when you say that. She might have a thicker wage packet but Jamie is there every waking hour and has a great deal of influence on the program. He is getting stronger by the day down there and it wont be long before he gets a prime spot and outs lavine who is a nightmare. Last week she ade 19 verbal bloopers in one show and last night she even sent the wrong VT info out. She suffers badly with Nerves and her verbal cock ups hurt her.

jamie knows the percentages as does Emma but Emma comes in, gets glammed up and presents. The 3 hardest workers down there are jamie, Ian and the little knee socks girl whos name escapes me. Emma is super fit but is more of a figurehead than a worker.

That's not true at all, i follow him on Twitter. He's a bit part presenter. As you say, Even Alice has a bigger role than Jamie.

Looks like posters are trying to exaggerate Jamie's role to try and justify his comments about the vote.

If as you say Emma knows the numbers, then you can't ignore her when she said Deana's very popular, can you?

[MrWong]

Yeah if you just go to someone's user profile and then click "user lists" there's an option to add them to your ignore list

Yeah, thought there might be.

Thanks MTVN.

[MrWong]

If you read my post throroughly again, you will see I say nothing as to people on here splitting their votes between Arron and Conor, what I said was, I 'know' a lot of people who did that, meaning people I know of personally.All I said was that even those who didn't like Arron on here believed he would be safe anyway.

If you think Jamie East gets no other bits of knowledge fine. To me, it doesn't make sense for him to come on the show just after a 4way eviction battle had been done and then say the winner is 'not' as popular with the public as people believe she is.
That set me asking questions as to why he'd say that and more to the point why Emma didn't contradict him or even challenge him on it either.

Back to Arron and Conor and the voting, I was a really strong Arron supporter, even I thought though about also voting for Conor to help him,however past BB series have shown me that surprises happen all the time and I put all my votes to Arron, however again I repeat, I 'know' loads of people personally who did split their votes between the 2 guys hoping to help Conor and believing Arron was well safe.
One of them split 50 votes between them,had only Arron or Conor been up those votes would have gone to whoever was up.

Last year,never at any time did any presenter or Jamie East ever say Aaron was not as popular with the public as people believe,so your comparison is way out, as in this series it has been said as to Deana who won a 4 way battle.

If you think she is that invincible then why should anyone be bothered if she was up again, she should walk over anyone if she is as popular as you may think she is with the public, as opposed to someone saying who is heavily connected to the show, who for no reason I can see than he must have a bit of info to back him up on it,that in fact she isn't.

Had he for instance instead said, oh yes Deana is now in the position where she could beat anyone, you would 'possibly' be crowing about that statement to high heaven,possibly even saying,well he should know that too.

Convenient. Funny how that never showed in the thousands of posts onine.

So jamie gets bits of knowledge but Emma doesn't? Sorry, not buying it.

[joeysteele]

That's not true at all, i follow him on Twitter. He's a bit part presenter. As you say, Even Alice has a bigger role than Jamie.

Looks like posters are trying to exaggerate Jamie's role to try and justify his comments about the vote.

If as you say Emma knows the numbers, then you can't ignore her when she said Deana's very popular, can you?

Sorry to disagree again, however I have never seen Emma, Alice or even Brian the main presenter being given the responsibility of choosing from originally rejected candidates, three of his own choosing and then presenting them to the public for them to decide which of them becomes a housemate like Jamie East was given to do this series,re-Becky.

If you really think he has little influence then I fear you may be way out possibly.

[sampvt]

Sorry to disagree again, however I have never seen Emma, Alice or even Brian the main presenter being given the responsibility of choosing from originally rejected candidates, three of his own choosing and then presenting them to the public for them to decide which of them becomes a housemate like Jamie East was given to do this series,re-Becky.

If you really think he has little influence then I fear you may be way out possibly.

Joey, dont waste your energy, he will keep coming back at you with Cherry picked stuff and if the fails he will pull you up on grammar and spelling, he feeds off good posters and tries to make them look small. he seems to be active outside school hours, weird eh. I like your posts and agree with you on the Jamie issue. He is doing less and less on Holy moly and more on \bb these days.

[MrWong]

Sorry to disagree again, however I have never seen Emma, Alice or even Brian the main presenter being given the responsibility of choosing from originally rejected candidates, three of his own choosing and then presenting them to the public for them to decide which of them becomes a housemate like Jamie East was given to do this series,re-Becky.

If you really think he has little influence then I fear you may be way out possibly.

You think picking a wildcard means he has influence over the show and all sorts of insider knowledge but one of the two main presenters knows nothing?

If you think he has this massive influence then you may be way out possibly.

Jamie spends more time on HolyMoly than he does on BB. Like i said, he's a bit part player.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Joey, dont waste your energy, he will keep coming back at you with Cherry picked stuff and if the fails he will pull you up on grammar and spelling, he feeds off good posters and tries to make them look small. he seems to be active outside school hours, weird eh. I like your posts and agree with you on the Jamie issue. He is doing less and less on Holy moly and more on \bb these days.

This is getting quite tiresome now, can you please just talk about the housemates instead of focusing on other members and any personal conflicts you might have with them

[MrWong]

Joey, dont waste your energy, he will keep coming back at you with Cherry picked stuff and if the fails he will pull you up on grammar and spelling, he feeds off good posters and tries to make them look small. he seems to be active outside school hours, weird eh. I like your posts and agree with you on the Jamie issue. He is doing less and less on Holy moly and more on \bb these days.

There you go again, getting personal.

You're really sh!t at this debating lark aren't you. :joker:

[joeysteele]

You think picking a wildcard means he has influence over the show and all sorts of insider knowledge but one of the two main presenters knows nothing?

If you think he has this massive influence then you may be way out possibly.

Jamie spends more time on HolyMoly than he does on BB. Like i said, he's a bit part player.

With respect and really none of us know why he said it but he did and wasn't challenged on it either,however you tried to point ut that he is just a presenter,well no other presenter,even Brian who has been in the house twice got to be given that reponsiblity so clearly he does have influence,more than the presenters anyway to actually get to choose a housemate for the series from a list of 3,'only' he put forward.

As someone said,this is all tiresome now anyway, this was to choose who we'd vote for, I said Conor over Deana, I would vote Deana over some other housemates.
I can see that maybe the win in the 4 way battle was probably not as clear and as big as her supporters would likely want it to be and my only point was that someone connected to the show in many ways, raised that very point.

I am using Jamie's words because that is a fact I can base my own assumptions on,I said what I mentioned was guess work from that, I have only used maybe's and possibly's to describe my further elaborations of what I have said.
You however seem to be so sure you are right that you can dismiss others ideas and thoughts anyway so it is pointless to discuss it further if you really cannot even acknowledge others may just be right in some things and have a fair base to their points too.

[JamesBond]

Conor is an absolute mushroom tip, how did he manage to get 14 votes?

[MrWong]

With respect and really none of us know why he said it but he did and wasn't challenged on it either,however you tried to point ut that he is just a presenter,well no other presenter,even Brian who has been in the house twice got to be given that reponsiblity so clearly he does have influence,more than the presenters anyway to actually get to choose a housemate for the series from a list of 3,'only' he put forward.

As someone said,this is all tiresome now anyway, this was to choose who we'd vote for, I said Conor over Deana, I would vote Deana over some other housemates.
I can see that maybe the win in the 4 way battle was probably not as clear and as big as her supporters would likely want it to be and my only point was that someone connected to the show in many ways, raised that very point.

I am using Jamie's words because that is a fact I can base my own assumptions on,I said what I mentioned was guess work from that, I have only used maybe's and possibly's to describe my further elaborations of what I have said.
You however seem to be so sure you are right that you can dismiss others ideas and thoughts anyway so it is pointless to discuss it further if you really cannot even acknowledge others may just be right in some things and have a fair base to their points too.

Well of course they haven't.
Jamie's the one that does the auditions. Brian/Emma/Alice aren't involved in that at all.

That still doesn't mean only he has insider knowledge of the voting.

You are putting considerable weight behind the fact that he was involved (more than usual) in auditions, concluding that he's privvy to things others aren't, based on very little.

All we have to go on is the outcome of the vote. Jamie's utterings can't be taken as gospel or proof of anything.

[joeysteele]

Well of course they haven't.
Jamie's the one that does the auditions. Brian/Emma/Alice aren't involved in that at all.

That still doesn't mean only he has insider knowledge of the voting.

You are putting considerable weight behind the fact that he was involved (more than usual) in auditions, concluding that he's privvy to things others aren't, based on very little.

All we have to go on is the outcome of the vote. Jamie's utterings can't be taken as gospel or proof of anything.

Indeed, you are possibly right.
I know what I think though.What I 'think' but don't 'know' for sure,unlike yourself who believes himself to be totally right.

[sampvt]

Indeed, you are possibly right.
I know what I think though.What I 'think' but don't 'know' for sure,unlike yourself who believes himself to be totally right.

:elephant::elephant::elephant: :dance::dance::dance: :hello::hello::hello:

:banana::banana::banana::banana::bana :dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::d ance2::dance2::worship::worship::worship::worship: :worship::worship:na::banana:

[Kizzy]

100% deana

[MrWong]

Indeed, you are possibly right.
I know what I think though.What I 'think' but don't 'know' for sure,unlike yourself who believes himself to be totally right.

So how does it prove he has insider knowledge, in your opinion?

What you've said so far isn't convincing.

[MrWong]

:elephant::elephant::elephant: :dance::dance::dance: :hello::hello::hello:

:banana::banana::banana::banana::bana :dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::d ance2::dance2::worship::worship::worship::worship: :worship::worship:na::banana:

Careful. At your age you're likely to put your back out. :whistle:

[sampvt]

Careful. At your age you're likely to put your back out. :whistle:

I am fitter than a bag of flees on a new born puppy. I play 4 games of golf a week, play squash and raquet ball and even at 60 mu wife says I am a pest in the bedroom ,lol. I am an avid hill walker and camper and will partake in the great nothern run later this year. Oh I forgot to mention that pro golfers backs are generally very strong, mine is even stronger on here carrying everyone on my quest to keep conor in.If he goes the series will revert back to a BB4 and we get another R Rice winner, please dont let that happen. Now ive left some bits you can moan about so cherry pick away son.

[MrWong]

I am fitter than a bag of flees on a new born puppy. I play 4 games of golf a week, play squash and raquet ball and even at 60 mu wife says I am a pest in the bedroom ,lol. I am an avid hill walker and camper and will partake in the great nothern run later this year. Oh I forgot to mention that pro golfers backs are generally very strong, mine is even stronger on here carrying everyone on my quest to keep conor in.If he goes the series will revert back to a BB4 and we get another R Rice winner, please dont let that happen. Now ive left some bits you can moan about so cherry pick away son.

TMI!!! :o


It's nice that you have hobbies :thumbs:

[joeysteele]

So how does it prove he has insider knowledge, in your opinion?

What you've said so far isn't convincing.

Well, looking at it both ways and moreso since I use the terms possibly,likely and maybe to describe what my thoughts are on the issue. equally so the bulk of what you have said so far,claiming it to be you and it right and everyone else wrong,is also very far from being convincing.

One minute you describe Jamie East as a part time presenter,nothing important, then you state he is involved with the auditions and also the selection of housemates process as well as the presenting role too.
That strikes me as having far more influence than Emma, Alice or Brian and goes a massive lot further than being a part time presenter only.

I don't claim, and never have, claimed he had insider knowledge but I do have the thought it is likely if anyone has, then he will be one who likely has,note,I again use the word likely not certainty.

[Yayita]

Because he has so much more involvement with BB overall, he even got to select 3 originally rejected housemates to put to the public to vote on to go in after Victoria's eviction.
He has more input overall, Emma is just a presenter, even Brian doesn't get to know the percentage breakdowns it would seem and he is the main presenter.

My question is and I take nothing away from Deana and her winning that 4 way eviction but why would Jamie say, she is not as popular with the public as people and the housemates believe,just after winning that 4 way eviction.
Had she really run away with the votes, no one could have even hinted she may not be as popular as people think.

Jamie East gets on my nerves but sadly he has a lot more to do with BB than many realise in my view.
He also had a big interest in that 4 way battle too, his 'housemate' Becky was up for eviction too.

He may be have alot to do but Emma knows the results as well, she hosts the show and Im sure she knows the numbers just as well. This is where your theory fails as Emma is privvy to the same information as Jamie, if not more.

[joeysteele]

He may be have alot to do but Emma knows the results as well, she hosts the show and Im sure she knows the numbers just as well. This is where your theory fails as Emma is privvy to the same information as Jamie, if not more.

Possibly she does and possibly that is why in fact she asked Jamie East that question for him to take the stage and elaborate further.
I know one thing for sure, 'if' she,Emma, knew the voting figures and then as to Jamie East response as to Deana is not as popular as people and the housemates think she is, 'if' she indeed knew they were better figures for Deana, why did she not challenge him on it. She didn't say a word after he said that,just totally accepted it.

My theory just could be possibly right you know, Deana fans don't have the monopoly on being right all the time.

Nowhere, anywhere, either have I seen that Emma is privy to the same information as jamie or that she is not even, you state like Mr Wong a clear view that she is, where is your knowledge of that. Could your theory as to her 'definately' having the same information as Jamie East be a bit wrong or again are you right and everyone else wrong on all things Deana and BB if they seem to be getting at her.Which I am not by the way.I only quoted Jamie East.

For the life of me, I cannot see where after winning a 4 way battle for survival after 2 weeks in a row up too, where any comment could have any likely justification as to ''she isn't as popular as people and the housemates think she is'' could be even just thought of, let alone said without any challenge at all, without some other knowledge of that being the likely case.

[Saph]

117 to 16 :laugh2::laugh2:

[Scream]

I'm not so sure he would get slaughtered.

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[MrWong]

Well, looking at it both ways and moreso since I use the terms possibly,likely and maybe to describe what my thoughts are on the issue. equally so the bulk of what you have said so far,claiming it to be you and it right and everyone else wrong,is also very far from being convincing.
One minute you describe Jamie East as a part time presenter,nothing important, then you state he is involved with the auditions and also the selection of housemates process as well as the presenting role too.
That strikes me as having far more influence than Emma, Alice or Brian and goes a massive lot further than being a part time presenter only.

I don't claim, and never have, claimed he had insider knowledge but I do have the thought it is likely if anyone has, then he will be one who likely has,note,I again use the word likely not certainty.

That's not what i've done. You are basing your theory of the percieved popularity of Deana on what Jamie spouted. I'm basing it on her winning the vote as that's the only concrete thing we have to go on.

Being invoved in auditions isn't important. Where did i say that it was? It's you that states that due to this massive role he plays he's likely to have insider knowledge of the vote.

If it's likely that Jamie knows sh!t then it's just as likely that Emma does too and she was of the view that Deana's popular. So who's correct? :suspect:

[ransom]

117 to 16 :laugh2::laugh2:

There is people on here who actually believe Conor stands a chance against Deana in an eviction too. Mad stuff.

[sampvt]

There is people on here who actually believe Conor stands a chance against Deana in an eviction too. Mad stuff.

Its a racing certainty that she will go before him. This week they are both safe and Conor is racking up the brownie points at the same rate the Killer queen is loosing them. By next week she is toast if they go head to head. At the moment it would be close.

[MrWong]

Its a racing certainty that she will go before him. This week they are both safe and Conor is racking up the brownie points at the same rate the Killer queen is loosing them. By next week she is toast if they go head to head. At the moment it would be close.

:joker:

[ransom]

Its a racing certainty that she will go before him. This week they are both safe and Conor is racking up the brownie points at the same rate the Killer queen is loosing them. By next week she is toast if they go head to head. At the moment it would be close.

Senile :joker:

[joeysteele]

That's not what i've done. You are basing your theory of the percieved popularity of Deana on what Jamie spouted. I'm basing it on her winning the vote as that's the only concrete thing we have to go on.

Being invoved in auditions isn't important. Where did i say that it was? It's you that states that due to this massive role he plays he's likely to have insider knowledge of the vote.

If it's likely that Jamie knows sh!t then it's just as likely that Emma does too and she was of the view that Deana's popular. So who's correct? :suspect:

The only concrete thing you have and anyone has outside of BB is that Deana won the 4 way eviction, no one can take that away from her.I give her credit for that.

However what we don't know,none of us outside of BB, or have any idea of is if she won by say at least 10% ahead of becky and much more over the others are were they 'possibly' all in the 20s, Deana 28/9%, Becky 25/6%. Conor and Aaron with possibly 24% to 22% possibly.Not in any way impossible that scenario.
We don't know which is the likely result, but 'if' it possibly was more like the latter, then only about 6% or 7% could have been the difference between 1st and 4th place.

That would then make the comment, despite someone winning a 4 way eviction, that '' she isn't as popular as people and the housemates think she is'', possibly more likely and plausible.
It would make no sense at all if she was well away in front of them all.

As to being involved in the audition process not being important, you are having me on there,surely you cannot be serious.
The auditions, until the start of the series is the heart of BB, it's where all the selections of possible and final housemates are decided,if that's not important as to BB and the people involved in it are not important too then quite frankly there is nothing important as to BB then.

Emma hadn't a clue I think, it is why she opened it up and got full clarification as to Deana's real popularity from Jamie.
However,look,you think you are always right and everyone with a different view is wrong, not might be wrong but are wrong.

In that case, I am never going to say anything on this that is what you want to hear so you carry on believing you are right 'all' the time and I will continue to try to work things out my way,looking at all possibilites,not just the ones I want to be the case or how I would like things to be.