Affinity

[Beverley]

This is a serious question.

What makes YOU the viewer, gain such a affinity towards a particular housemate that you will spend hours defending certain housemates, who lets face it, never knew of you before entering the house, so by their own admissions, will not give a flying fairy about who you are after they leave.

Yet, you'll sit and become armchair physcologists in disecting each and every moment they make.

Does it not occour one iota that they will find posts hilarious, forget user names and then move on without a second thought to the arguments you have put forward over the hours/weeks they have spent in there?

So again I ask, what gives YOU the viewer, the affintity, drive, and direction you have in determining what role a HM becomes, validates, percieves, manipulates or juggles? Will they care anyway?

[InOne]

Once the show ends nobody cares about them, it works both ways.

[dathadiguy]

Once the show ends nobody cares about them, it works both ways.

^
This. And it is a forum for BB, what do you want us to do?

[*mazedsalv**]

At the end of the day, we watch for OUR entertainment. You could say this about every reality show and why we keep people in. Because we LIKE them and want them to know they have a fan base. Brighten their day.

For example, quiz shows. I get really excited when someone wins big money wise on Deal or No Deal, Million Pound Drop etc... even though I am not getting the money.

It's sort of a support of good over not so good. People like likeable people and want them to do well.

[rayheartbliss]

^
the first 2 responses.

[Jords]

Honest answer? Its fun.

[Jords]

In my opinion whats the point of watching a show if youre not gonna get right into it? I do think we discuss things to death on here, to points where we even annoy ourselves, but at the end of the day its a TV show that we all enjoy, we pick out favourite HMs and we debate and banter and have fun and get pissed off.

You could argue... whats the point of hating a housemate?

[Black Dagger]

I know it sounds really really pathetic and sad, but I get attatched as a viewer to my favourites and it means me just having a defense mechanism and defending them when people slag them off etc... yes, I don't expect them to come out and be my best friend.

I do pay attention to them when they leave though, for example I follow my favourite house-mates on Twitter and tweet them the odd occasion.

[Beverley]

At the end of the day, we watch for OUR entertainment. You could say this about every reality show and why we keep people in. Because we LIKE them and want them to know they have a fan base. Brighten their day.

For example, quiz shows. I get really excited when someone wins big money wise on Deal or No Deal, Million Pound Drop etc... even though I am not getting the money.

It's sort of a support of good over not so good. People like likeable people and want them to do well.

When do the above examples of audiences turn on each other like this forum has the capability?

[Beverley]

In my opinion whats the point of watching a show if youre not gonna get right into it? I do think we discuss things to death on here, to points where we even annoy ourselves, but at the end of the day its a TV show that we all enjoy, we pick out favourite HMs and we debate and banter and have fun and get pissed off.

You could argue... whats the point of hating a housemate?

Thank you for saying that! How can you hate someone you have never met, never has carried an injustice against you, how does that work?

[armand.kay]

Its funny because I spent a fortune last year voting for aaron. Now I couldn't care less about him. :joker:

[Gillian-73]

Once the show ends nobody cares about them, it works both ways.

This!

[sampvt]

This is a serious question.

What makes YOU the viewer, gain such a affinity towards a particular housemate that you will spend hours defending certain housemates, who lets face it, never knew of you before entering the house, so by their own admissions, will not give a flying fairy about who you are after they leave.

Yet, you'll sit and become armchair physcologists in disecting each and every moment they make.

Does it not occour one iota that they will find posts hilarious, forget user names and then move on without a second thought to the arguments you have put forward over the hours/weeks they have spent in there?

So again I ask, what gives YOU the viewer, the affintity, drive, and direction you have in determining what role a HM becomes, validates, percieves, manipulates or juggles? Will they care anyway?

Great post and it takes a lot of sole searching to define the correct answer. I guess it comes down to who you are and by what virtues you live your life by. In my case, I loved Adam and liked Lauren. I didnt really think Conor was worthy of my support but after he got bad press from some posters that seemed to be overly wong about him, I decided to champion him.

The more they got at me the more I supported him. So in my case I suppose I supported someone in the face of him beng unfairly treated. Supporting the underdog scenario I suppose. I still dont think he can win but like Aaron last year, he got loads of support because some people tried to rain on his parade and he picked up the sympathy vote. This is what Deanas is doing this year but she dosent have Aarons finese or charisma and copycats dont deserve anything good in my book.

Nobody can form an opinion on someone on a 45 min a day viewing, we can only surmise and derive opinions based on what our eyes and ears tell us. It just becomes so god damm hard to take critisism from people that, in my opinion, have got it wong.

One thing I need to say. We are having our own little bb here on our laptops and if I met any of my nemesises in person, I would be friends with them very quickly becasue I can separate fact from fiction and serious from game.

[Jords]

Thank you for saying that! How can you hate someone you have never met, never has carried an injustice against you, how does that work?

Its essentially the same with how can you like somebody you never met etc.

We judge what goes down in the house and form our opinions, once the show is over nobody cares and we no longer spit venom or spread the love. Its just a show to enjoy whilst its on and TiBB allows us to share our views and debate and take it to the next level, if you like.

[WozMan]

Thank you for saying that! How can you hate someone you have never met, never has carried an injustice against you, how does that work?

Cause we wanna know to avoid such people in real life. Seeing the way some people are so nice to people's faces but pour shet all over them behind their backs. We hate people cause they do bad things. I mean Hitler never did anything bad to me or any of my family that I know of...

[Beverley]

I know it sounds really really pathetic and sad, but I get attatched as a viewer to my favourites and it means me just having a defense mechanism and defending them when people slag them off etc... yes, I don't expect them to come out and be my best friend.

I do pay attention to them when they leave though, for example I follow my favourite house-mates on Twitter and tweet them the odd occasion.

I liked Josie, I read a few of her tweets, and was really sad when I saw the break up of her and John James but found it no suprise. However, I could have tweeted her 100 times a day, she wouldn't have cared that I thought she was brilliant in the BB house, just another 'fan'.

Don't want to sound mean but here's my point, they don't care, all the sparkly banners, polls etc, it doesnt matter.

It's just be nice to see more ppl on the forum saying "you know what mate, I don't agree but I like your stance on things". Once it's over, except the odd few (no insult just term of speech), who remembers them anyway, until the next BBBotS, then it's a case of "oh yeah, it's him/her".

[Beverley]

Cause we wanna know to avoid such people in real life. Seeing the way some people are so nice to people's faces but pour shet all over them behind their backs. We hate people cause they do bad things. I mean Hitler never did anything bad to me or any of my family that I know of...

That's quite a silly statement really. EVERYONE at some point is effected by someone who is negative in their lives. What we do about it, makes us either stronger or weaker! By the way, I come from Scottish Nobility, English, German, Romian and French Jew. Your Hitler statement was a bit off, but what do I do? You wasn't to know, my point exactly!

[Indy]

It's more rational than deciding to armchair psychoanalyze an entire forum of people because the majority disagree with my opinion.

[*mazedsalv**]

At the end of the day, these people know what they are getting in for. BB is like a judging machine. You can't really say "It's silly that this happens", it happens in every reality show. That is why reality shows are still so popular.

[Beverley]

Great post and it takes a lot of sole searching to define the correct answer. I guess it comes down to who you are and by what virtues you live your life by. In my case, I loved Adam and liked Lauren. I didnt really think Conor was worthy of my support but after he got bad press from some posters that seemed to be overly wong about him, I decided to champion him.

The more they got at me the more I supported him. So in my case I suppose I supported someone in the face of him beng unfairly treated. Supporting the underdog scenario I suppose. I still dont think he can win but like Aaron last year, he got loads of support because some people tried to rain on his parade and he picked up the sympathy vote. This is what Deanas is doing this year but she dosent have Aarons finese or charisma and copycats dont deserve anything good in my book.

Nobody can form an opinion on someone on a 45 min a day viewing, we can only surmise and derive opinions based on what our eyes and ears tell us. It just becomes so god damm hard to take critisism from people that, in my opinion, have got it wong.

One thing I need to say. We are having our own little bb here on our laptops and if I met any of my nemesises in person, I would be friends with them very quickly becasue I can separate fact from fiction and serious from game.

I like that, diversity is the key to human interest.

Its essentially the same with how can you like somebody you never met etc.

We judge what goes down in the house and form our opinions, once the show is over nobody cares and we no longer spit venom or spread the love. Its just a show to enjoy whilst its on and TiBB allows us to share our views and debate and take it to the next level, if you like.

This encapsulates my question, we've NEVER met them, so who are WE to decide their strong points and bad points. Yet, I see arguments on this very board discussing ppl who have about as much genunine interest in us as we do in them.

At the end of the day, these people know what they are getting in for. BB is like a judging machine. You can't really say "It's silly that this happens", it happens in every reality show. That is why reality shows are still so popular.

Exactly, how can we REALISTICALLY judge them.

That's why I made this post, it's silly how us 'randoms' can argue, armchair anyalise, yet are no wiser from one day to the next.

[Donovan.]

Tbh I respect them all as HMs and I pick my favorites because that is kind of the point of the show, to pick a HM who you would like to win money. I've never ever hated a HM, because like Jords said why would you hate somebody that you don't know. It's just unnecessary stress.

[Beverley]

Tbh I respect them all as HMs and I pick my favorites because that is kind of the point of the show, to pick a HM who you would like to win money. I've never ever hated a HM, because like Jords said why would you hate somebody that you don't know. It's just unnecessary stress.

That is what I am trying to say too, why Hate, it's such a strong word, too strong for someone you have never met. I've never used it against any HM in my posts, sure there are some I strongly dislike but hate, never, that's just a wasted emotion.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Dunno really, I just enjoy watching, judging, forming opinions and debating them on here. Most of the time it's true I stop caring about them after the show too, although I did stay sorta interested in what Jay was doing after last years series ended

[Beverley]

So, back to my OP, why distain to some and appreciation to others? (for the rest that have not answered).

[joeysteele]

In my opinion whats the point of watching a show if youre not gonna get right into it? I do think we discuss things to death on here, to points where we even annoy ourselves, but at the end of the day its a TV show that we all enjoy, we pick out favourite HMs and we debate and banter and have fun and get pissed off.

You could argue... whats the point of hating a housemate?

Yay, at last, I have been dying for some comment where I could race in and agree with you Jords during this series.

This has made my night and you have said all I would have said but in a far more concise way than I would have. I totally agree with this post.

[Beverley]

Dunno really, I just enjoy watching, judging, forming opinions and debating them on here. Most of the time it's true I stop caring about them after the show too, although I did stay sorta interested in what Jay was doing after last years series ended

John (I don't give a Rip) James or JJ? Ask me to name anyone else but Josie and I'm lost, but watched the lot!

[In the Drunk Tank]

John (I don't give a Rip) James or JJ? Ask me to name anyone else but Josie and I'm lost, but watched the lot!

Haha neither, I'm talking about Jay McKray from BB12, not sure if you saw that series, he came 2nd

[Beverley]

Haha neither, I'm talking about Jay McKray from BB12, not sure if you saw that series, he came 2nd

lol no idea who he is, not just saying it to prove my point either, too funny! x

[InOne]

Haha neither, I'm talking about Jay McKray from BB12, not sure if you saw that series, he came 2nd

You mean Justin Waggot

[Beverley]

You mean Justin Waggot

Really, THAT was his REAL name?

[In the Drunk Tank]

That was an.. alternative name for him, he was also known as the People's Winner

[Beverley]

That was an.. alternative name for him, he was also known as the People's Winner

LoL I don't want to know anymore!

(NN to everyone, great chatting)

[InOne]

Justin Waggot was indeed his real name. Mummy Waggot even confirmed it.

[rinkydinkpanther]

unlike maybe other posters, i give my opinion regardless of popular opinion or who the forum likes etc this is why i repsond to questions before reading other replies, then i read the replies after

in this case, this is why I watch and respond

because the actions, the reactions, the social situations, how the hm's behave , we can observe and we try to second guess what we would try and do in those situations and compare and see how we behave in different or the same ways. it is fascinating at times, i am though very disappointed overall with this years bb, its way too negative, i think the editing is the biggest culprit, theyre feeding us hate and negativity and weve learnt almost nothing about these people. which has made it a shallower experience for us all.

we are observing human behaviour that in some ways it reflects us, just as we watch movies for similar reasons. sometimes we agree with their decisions sometimes not, we try to understand the reasoning, the instincts and so on. we also try to decipher the rights and the wrongs of each action and reaction.

[rinkydinkpanther]

This is a serious question.

What makes YOU the viewer, gain such a affinity towards a particular housemate that you will spend hours defending certain housemates, who lets face it, never knew of you before entering the house, so by their own admissions, will not give a flying fairy about who you are after they leave.

Yet, you'll sit and become armchair physcologists in disecting each and every moment they make.

Does it not occour one iota that they will find posts hilarious, forget user names and then move on without a second thought to the arguments you have put forward over the hours/weeks they have spent in there?

So again I ask, what gives YOU the viewer, the affintity, drive, and direction you have in determining what role a HM becomes, validates, percieves, manipulates or juggles? Will they care anyway?

(apart from a few celebrities like george galloway)
i certainly have no interest whatsoever in any of these people once they leave the house, in all the years ive watched it...i dont know what that says about me or the housemates?

[fruit_cake]

I love the debating and stuff about it, seeing who everyone is supporting, being surprised by peoples reactions to things. I tend to support housemates who I feel are a bit like myself personality wise, or housemates that make me laugh. Those two things are most important to me when I choose a favourite.

Having said all that as InOne said, once the shows over, it's over. I still feel a vague interest in them but no more than that!

[kistar]

I guess I see something in one or more housemates that remind me of me and then I get passionate about defending them because I empathise with them.

Some characters remind me of school bullies and I dont like them from day 1 , they annoy me because of what they represent to me.

I think we all get involved because at some level we feel like we know these people and we relate to them in different ways. When BB ends I really miss it .

I home schooled my 2 children and we watched BB together as a basic introduction into psychology and even life skills.

[Kizzy]

I love the debating and stuff about it, seeing who everyone is supporting, being surprised by peoples reactions to things. I tend to support housemates who I feel are a bit like myself personality wise, or housemates that make me laugh. Those two things are most important to me when I choose a favourite.

Having said all that as InOne said, once the shows over, it's over. I still feel a vague interest in them but no more than that!

Those who are themselves and don't morph into other people to fit in impress me.
I would like to think if I went in I would not be easily influenced...
Being able to maintain a sense of humour and a rational mind in there must be really hard with all the backbiting.

I have to confess I never give HM's a second thought once they have left no matter if I supported them or not haha.

[Jack_]

I'll defend to the death any housemate that provides entertainment and gives us all something to talk about, debate and watch, after all that's in essence the sole purpose of any entertainment TV show and that's why I find it so frustrating and mind-boggling when certain people are so desperate to want to get rid of any housemate who dares to do anything and create any type of storyline, it's totally illogical.

Sometimes the housemates I support are people I wouldn't want to surround or associate myself with at all, but that really isn't the point of the show. I guess I don't really view the housemates as people, more 'characters' in some TV show whereby the idea of course would be to keep the big characters in, similar to how you'd want the big characters to stay in any soap opera. I can easily judge them as people on their behaviour, but in an entertainment TV show like Big Brother I don't believe that's what we should be judging them on, I think it's on what they contribute and provide for us to watch and discuss. After all, if we didn't have housemates that did that then we wouldn't have a show at all.

[Shaun]

do you mean to say Becky won't read my posts? :( well bollocks

[ChristmasNeeve]

It's only a bit of panto, do you honestly think people on this forum get genuinely upset about arguments they had on here about a HM? I don't. It's fun having a favourite HM and defending them, like loads of others have said, the minute the show ends we all forget about the HMs

[Beverley]

do you mean to say Becky won't read my posts? :( well bollocks

You just cracked me up! LOL!!

[kistar]

do you mean to say Becky won't read my posts? :( well bollocks

:joker:

[smeagol]

This is a serious question.

What makes YOU the viewer, gain such a affinity towards a particular housemate that you will spend hours defending certain housemates, who lets face it, never knew of you before entering the house, so by their own admissions, will not give a flying fairy about who you are after they leave.

Yet, you'll sit and become armchair physcologists in disecting each and every moment they make.

Does it not occour one iota that they will find posts hilarious, forget user names and then move on without a second thought to the arguments you have put forward over the hours/weeks they have spent in there?

So again I ask, what gives YOU the viewer, the affintity, drive, and direction you have in determining what role a HM becomes, validates, percieves, manipulates or juggles? Will they care anyway?

its no different to everything else in life, whether your talking about some film you saw and the actors with your mates. or on some bands forum discecting the good songs from the bad the band members etc. or you talk about stuff on the news or some celeb scandle. or even about some country your never see.
we all judge watch listen talk about and defend people we dont know and will never know . bb is no different but its more intresting as the tasks the idear of bb is to mess with peoples minds. its intresting so were bound to talk about and those we like or not like. yes its sad and a total waste of time. but so is 99% of everything we talk about in life. might as well hang ourselves now cause nothing is worth it lol

p.s i dont have no affinity with any housemate. i like a few most i dont some i hate. when its over they are forgotton. the ones i like can change at anytime. no blind love here is with some people though but the world needs it crazies lol

[Beverley]

its no different to everything else in life, whether your talking about some film you saw and the actors with your mates. or on some bands forum discecting the good songs from the bad the band members etc. or you talk about stuff on the news or some celeb scandle. or even about some country your never see.
we all judge watch listen talk about and defend people we dont know and will never know . bb is no different but its more intresting as the tasks the idear of bb is to mess with peoples minds. its intresting so were bound to talk about and those we like or not like. yes its sad and a total waste of time. but so is 99% of everything we talk about in life. might as well hang ourselves now cause nothing is worth it lol

p.s i dont have no affinity with any housemate. i like a few most i dont some i hate. when its over they are forgotton. the ones i like can change at anytime. no blind love here is with some people though but the world needs it crazies lol

Nobody ever questions a healthy debate. It's when it starts getting personal between the people involved that raises eyebrows.

Love the last bit of your post, lol!!

[starry]

Cause we wanna know to avoid such people in real life. Seeing the way some people are so nice to people's faces but pour shet all over them behind their backs. We hate people cause they do bad things. I mean Hitler never did anything bad to me or any of my family that I know of...

It isn't the same as real life, it's a game.

You could just as much ask why can some people feel so sad when a football team loses. Same when someone you support gets evicted. In the end it is entertainment and people need to feel involved with what they are watching.