Her letter....

[rusticgal]

After all the drama....didnt seem that bothered in the end..... or was she just winding Ashleigh up???

[Jords]

Are you coming to the conclusion because she didnt cry?

I bet youd say she was being a dramatic cow if she did... hmmm... cant win :p

[joeysteele]

I think that's Deana for you, after all she turned the tears on in the toilet and was close to tears in the diary room too when she didn't get it, then after getting it she said she wasn't bothered about it and then went on to say she goes to India for 6 months at a time anyway so wasn't bothered as to getting it as she is used to being away.
A great attitude that in my opinion.

[armand.kay]

I like Deana but her letter was ****ing weird! It may of been a code :suspect: (:joker:)

[sampvt]

She wanted everyone to think she wanted it for the victim vote and when they gave her it early, she just decided it was done and its hey ho lets see whats next. She knows she is safe this week so she will cool down a bit and safe the dramatics for next week.

[rusticgal]

Are you coming to the conclusion because she didnt cry?

I bet youd say she was being a dramatic cow if she did... hmmm... cant win :p

No I am just saying that in the bedroom she told Ashleigh that she didnt know why she got so upset....'it was just a letter from my mum'...or similar words. Ijust found that a little extrodinary considering Ashleighs guilt and want to put it right (even though I am no Ashleigh fan).... Dont get so defensive it was an observation that seemed to be a strange reaction after she had shown the heartbreak of not getting her letter....it was almost a little ungrateful.

[Jords]

I love a good victim vote me!!

[rusticgal]

I love a good victim vote me!!

You should change the record....stop being obstinatly defensive and try and give a sensible account of her actions or dont bother. I am just trying to discuss what I thought was odd behaviour after her being obviously upset yesterday at being the only one to not hear from her family.

[Jords]

People should stop being 'obstinatly' at poking conspiracies Deana's way and criticising everything she does.

Also I always give good accounts ty, but lately the threads have gotten boring so its just more fun to joke along with what they have to say :D

[armand.kay]

People should stop being 'obstinatly' at poking conspiracies Deana's way and criticising everything she does.

Also I always give good accounts ty, but lately the threads have gotten boring so its just more fun to joke along with what they have to say :D
This :joker:.

[joeysteele]

I would be over the moon to get a letter from Mum, I would never say it was 'just' a letter from my Mother,shows a selfish piece of work for sure and not a very respectful one either.

[Kizzy]

Initially she was very upset, she cried thought about it, talked about it and and felt better. Not sure whats wrong with that..
There was no amature dramatics, stomping or wringing of hands.
She is a private person who does not wear her heart on her sleeve, its not obligatory to dissolve into tears at everything.
Unlike most she is very aware of how she acts in the house, which in the main is because se does not want to disrespect her mother.

[Petershaw1984]

Her letter did seem less emotianal than the others. Wonder why

[joeysteele]

No I am just saying that in the bedroom she told Ashleigh that she didnt know why she got so upset....'it was just a letter from my mum'...or similar words. Ijust found that a little extrodinary considering Ashleighs guilt and want to put it right (even though I am no Ashleigh fan).... Dont get so defensive it was an observation that seemed to be a strange reaction after she had shown the heartbreak of not getting her letter....it was almost a little ungrateful.

Very ungrateful, in my view, I am no fan of Deana that is true but for me it was her selfishness that came through most.
Getting the letter though,removed at a stroke the ability to remain the sidelined one as to the letters from home, I am just glad BB nipped that in the bud quickly and she got the letter so soon rather than days or a week later like someone had to wait for theirs last year.

As you say, words like it was just a letter from my Mum really was extraordinary. I would never say oh it's just a letter from my Mum to anyone ,even if she wrote to me every week.
I would actually be eagerly looking forward to it and looking for it too if I knew it was coming.

[optimisticcynic]

I would be over the moon to get a letter from Mum, I would never say it was 'just' a letter from my Mother,shows a selfish piece of work for sure and not a very respectful one either.

Deana seems pragmatic (does not mean cold/fake/mean) and quite admirably has the ability to look back at her emotional responses, analyse them in context and learn from them. If she's getting that upset about a letter, is that comparable to a reaction to illness, work/financial stressors, or bereavements in the outside world? Probably not. So she rationalises through her experiences and lays it to rest with her mantra "don't be silly!". Brilliant.
People like Ashleigh, Caroline and Becky, however, have the introspection of plankton yet Deana is questioned. Adam and Luke A are still my favourites but if Deana won, I'd be chuffed for her.

[Yayita]

Her letter did seem less emotianal than the others. Wonder why

Because they are normal as opposed to the rest who were overly emotional and OTT

[BJ]

Deana has said before that when she's down her mother tells her to lift herself up but there are never kisses and cuddles. Perhaps Deana is not used to showing emotion publicly and perhaps doesn't want other HMs to see her vunerable side. We all deal with things in our own way. She had her private cry in the toilet and it was probably partly as she had been left out. By the time the letter came she had released her emotions and I think they were all expecting it to be her letter from home so it was no surprise.

[MrWong]

Deana didn't cry.

Right, lets bash her for it. :sleep:

[smeagol]

The letter was quite funny and happy isnt really going to make you cry. the others letters were more soppy. and anyway the moment had passed .
cry shes putting it on. doesn't cry she's a bitch lol cant win

[smeagol]

The letter was quite funny and happy isnt really going to make you cry. the others letters were more soppy. and anyway the moment had passed .
cry shes putting it on. doesn't cry she's a bitch lol cant win

[chuff me dizzy]

After all the drama....didnt seem that bothered in the end..... or was she just winding Ashleigh up???

She didnt give a flying one ,not a tear in sight,but shes ok she got pity the day before for not getting it ,hope others saw the light a bit with her reaction

[rusticgal]

People should stop being 'obstinatly' at poking conspiracies Deana's way and criticising everything she does.

Also I always give good accounts ty, but lately the threads have gotten boring so its just more fun to joke along with what they have to say :D

Who said it was a conspiracy??? you are way off the point. The forum is for discussion. Just because she is one of your favorites....unlike you some people dont see Deana as being all that much. If you dont like negative comments about her dont reply or read them....just join in with the positive ones... I consider my point a genuine one.

[rusticgal]

The letter was quite funny and happy isnt really going to make you cry. the others letters were more soppy. and anyway the moment had passed .
cry shes putting it on. doesn't cry she's a bitch lol cant win

I didnt coment on 'crying'....I commented on what she said. Why dont you Deana lovers read the thread before over-reacting.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Caroline was worse.
I wouldn't care at all if I got a letter at all from my family, Some people just aren't close to their families.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Caroline was worse.
I wouldn't care at all if I got a letter at all from my family, Some people just aren't close to their families.

[Kazanne]

Are you coming to the conclusion because she didnt cry?

I bet youd say she was being a dramatic cow if she did... hmmm... cant win :p


Lets hope not:hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

Where did she not cry, she was appearing to do nothing else in the toilets for the cameras,she was even sniffling in the diary room. She did cry or made out she did at any rate.
She wasn't wiping make up off her face with tissue,she had already done that for the task ages before.

[smeagol]

I didnt coment on 'crying'....I commented on what she said. Why dont you Deana lovers read the thread before over-reacting.

was my comment to you how about you deana haters read before over reacting.

[chuff me dizzy]

She wanted everyone to think she wanted it for the victim vote and when they gave her it early, she just decided it was done and its hey ho lets see whats next. She knows she is safe this week so she will cool down a bit and safe the dramatics for next week.

:worship: Spot on !!!!!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Right ,any views on the"Ive bought a rose bush and called it Deana" stomach wrencher? I thought it was a very odd thing to put in a letter :conf: and why buy it just becasue shes in BB, what about when shes in India for months ? VERY,VERY, iffy IMO ,but doubt disciples will agree

[rayheartbliss]

People should stop being 'obstinatly' at poking conspiracies Deana's way and criticising everything she does.

Also I always give good accounts ty, but lately the threads have gotten boring so its just more fun to joke along with what they have to say :D

this :spin:

[rayheartbliss]

I would be over the moon to get a letter from Mum, I would never say it was 'just' a letter from my Mother,shows a selfish piece of work for sure and not a very respectful one either.

LOOOL
how can you talk about respect when you support conor

seriously! posts like yours looses all its credibility when its clear how narrow you're perceptions are.

[MrWong]

Right ,any views on the"Ive bought a rose bush and called it Deana" stomach wrencher? I thought it was a very odd thing to put in a letter :conf: and why buy it just becasue shes in BB, what about when shes in India for months ? VERY,VERY, iffy IMO ,but doubt disciples will agree

It's another coded message!! :o:o:o

[joeysteele]

LOOOL
how can you talk about respect when you support conor

seriously! posts like yours looses all its credibility when its clear how narrow you're perceptions are.

Well at least I would know exactly where I stood with Conor, unlike with Deana where I wouldn't have a clue.

The respect I was on about was for her Mother, I said I would never say to anyone, ''it's just a letter from my Mum''.
A letter form my Mum,my family means loads to me it would never be a throway,just a letter from her,thing like Deana's dismissal of it.

I actually like Conor for his entertainment value, to me anyway Deana has little of that,I actually also have very wide perceptions in reality so kindly don't insult me,thank you very much, just because I dare to say something against Deana.

Keep your opinions about me me to yourself please, hammer the housemates not me personally, I don't do that and don't exepct it done to me either.

I also however think my credibity stands pretty good overall and I don't have to resort to or would resort to personal insults to other members either.

[MrWong]

Well at least I would know exactly where I stood with Conor, unlike with Deana where I woudn't have a clue.

The respect I was on about was for her Mother, I said I would never say to anyone, ''it's just a letter from my Mum''.
A letter form my Mum,my family means loads to me it would never be a throway,just a letter from her,thing like Deana's dismissal of it.

I actually like Conor for his entertainment value, to me Deana has little of that,I actually have very wide perceptions in reality so kindly don't insult me,thank you very much, just becasue I dare to say something against Deana.

Keep your opinions about me yto yourself please, hammer the housemates not me personally, I don't do that and don't exepct it done to me either.

I also think overall my credibity stands pretty good overall and I don't have to resort to or would resort to personal insults to other members either.

Funny, you barely talk about him, nevermind discuss how entertaining he is.

[optimisticcynic]

Well at least I would know exactly where I stood with Conor, unlike with Deana where I woudn't have a clue.



Yep, you'd be standing in A & E with Conor. If standing at all. or you could be in the visiting room of your local prison. or lying cold on a mortuary slab because you cooked him the wrong meal on a Wednesday. Much better to know where you stand than have to occasionally reassure someone who is admittedly insecure that you have their interests at heart.

Conor goooooood, deana baaaaaad!

[joeysteele]

Funny, you barely talk about him, nevermind discuss how entertaining he is.

It's very clear then that you do not read my posts because I have said plenty as to Conor all series all over the BB section of the forum.

As in fact, in addition to Deana,I have many other housemates, Caroline, Becky, Scott, Arron, Lydia, Chris, Benedict,Lauren,Adam, Luke A just to name a few I have commented on with regularity both when and even after some of them were in the house too.

Anyway, I will talk about which housemates whenever and whoever I please, it is a forum but sorry you are wrong again and since it is clear my views as to Conor are known on here,it shows I clearly do speak about him and often too.

[joeysteele]

Yep, you'd be standing in A & E with Conor. If standing at all. or you could be in the visiting room of your local prison. or lying old on a mortuary slab because you cooked him the wrong meal on a Wednesday. Much better to know where you stand than have to occasionally reassure someone who is admittedly insecure that you have their interests at heart.

Conor goooooood, deana baaaaaad!

I presume you must surely have examples and evidence of any likely criminal activity committed by Conor that he has done outside of the house to make such a likely bizarre post.

[chuff me dizzy]

I presume you must syrely have examples and evidence of any likely criminal activity committed by Conor that he has done outside of the house to make such a post.

Its getting stupid now isnt it?

[chuff me dizzy]

Yep, you'd be standing in A & E with Conor. If standing at all. or you could be in the visiting room of your local prison. or lying old on a mortuary slab because you cooked him the wrong meal on a Wednesday. Much better to know where you stand than have to occasionally reassure someone who is admittedly insecure that you have their interests at heart.

Conor goooooood, deana baaaaaad!

Childish and offensive

[rayheartbliss]

I actually like Conor for his entertainment value

im sorry but your gonna have to elaborate on that one
because everything you just said has been lost in translation when you wrote this part.

[InOne]

Definitely trolling Ashleigh

[rayheartbliss]

Childish and offensive

you shouldn't insult yourself like that :nono:

[joeysteele]

Its getting stupid now isnt it?

It is beyond belief chuff me dizzy, you are not allowed to have an alternative view of Deana without enraging some on here and then getting personal insults thrown at you as to you yourself.

You can only be right if you praise her all the time.
I would praise her if I was to ever see anything worth praising her for but I see extremely little.

[joeysteele]

im sorry but your gonna have to elaborate on that one
because everything you just said has been lost in translation when you wrote this part.

Well if you cannot see it then really that is likely your problem and not mine.

[optimisticcynic]

I presume you must surely have examples and evidence of any likely criminal activity committed by Conor that he has done outside of the house to make such a likely bizarre post.

You must be joking! The "man" laughed whilst talking about shoving an epilator up the vagina of a woman that had angered him, and the spoke of how he would punch her in the face and shout at her to get off the mat. And you are asking me to provide you with evidence of any likely criminal activity in the future?!!

Here's a website to provide you with a clue of what his actions and words represent. If you have no issue with what he said, state this openly and declare your allegiance in this sense. But you cannot, nope that is not my place to say what you cannot do. I do not feel it is right that you should minimise the impact or significance of what he said.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/articles/domestic_violence_-_the_facts_the_issues_the_future/

[optimisticcynic]

It is beyond belief chuff me dizzy, you are not allowed to have an alternative view of Deana without enraging some on here and then getting personal insults thrown at you as to you yourself.

You can only be right if you praise her all the time.
I would praise her if I was to ever see anything worth praising her for but I see extremely little.

You can slate housemates as much as you want. My only issue is the insensitivity of applauding someone who threatened sexual assault. I wait with baited breath for responses such as "she was asking for it", "she made him say it", and "apart from that, he's lovely." I'd dislike Conor if he had said that to my worst female enemy.

[erinp5]

here is the clip of her Letter being read .The word magic is read out .Looks like another made up story from the Star ...again .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Sz-Fmqjiuc

[Kazanne]

It is beyond belief chuff me dizzy, you are not allowed to have an alternative view of Deana without enraging some on here and then getting personal insults thrown at you as to you yourself.

You can only be right if you praise her all the time.
I would praise her if I was to ever see anything worth praising her for but I see extremely little.

Hey Joey,I know exactly where you are coming from,I really liked Deana at first but over the weeks a few things have happened which has made me think again,that coupled with some of the 'fans' responses to anyone who isn't bowing down and worshipping her has turned me off her much more.why cant people get it ,that not everyone is a sucker for a pretty face or nice figure,with some of us it's personality and character that counts,Conor is not a fave of mine but i know that you respect others opinions,my fave is Adam and it took me a while to favour any of them.:xyxwave:

[joeysteele]

Hey Joey,I know exactly where you are coming from,I really liked Deana at first but over the weeks a few things have happened which has made me think again,that coupled with some of the 'fans' responses to anyone who isn't bowing down and worshipping her has turned me off her much more.why cant people get it ,that not everyone is a sucker for a pretty face or nice figure,with some of us it's personality and character that counts,Conor is not a fave of mine but i know that you respect others opinions,my fave is Adam and it took me a while to favour any of them.:xyxwave:

Hi kazanne, I know it is quite ridiculous but humerous too.

I had some reservations as to Adam but he is really an okay guy from what I have seen recently.

I have also tried to like Deana, I did feel for her the first night when she had to nominate 3 people for instance and she hasn't been totally rotten all the time since.
There are times I have warmed to her but I am not going to say she is Miss wonderful when all I have really seen is her backstabbing, lying and plotting in the main.
To make the point again too, to say about a letter you have cried for not getting, plus it being from your own Mother etc too,that it was just a letter from her Mum and then dismiss it as irrelevant just shows ignorance to me.

Deana may well be pretty and attractive on the outside but in my opinion she also shows,to me at any rate, beauty likely is really only skin deep sometimes.

[joeysteele]

You can slate housemates as much as you want. My only issue is the insensitivity of applauding someone who threatened sexual assault. I wait with baited breath for responses such as "she was asking for it", "she made him say it", and "apart from that, he's lovely." I'd dislike Conor if he had said that to my worst female enemy.

Housemates are fair game that is totally correct,I agree with you but insinuating they are likely criminals outside the house with no proof,written word or examples ,I see that at the very least a step just a bit too extreme and offensive.
However ,it is your view just as what I have said is mine.

[optimisticcynic]

Housemates are fair game that is totally correct,I agree with you but insinuating they are likely criminals outside the house with no proof,written word or examples ,I see that at the very least a step just a bit too extreme and offensive.
However ,it is your view just as what I have said is mine.

My reference to A & E and prison were in the context of the threatened assault, which IS a criminal offence. As this is a fact, it can neither be extreme nor offensive. What Conor threatened was extreme and offensive. I would appreciate your pointing out how my abhorrence at threats of sexual assault have offended you. If you spell it out to me, I may understand and this would be of mutual benefit.

[Sophiee]

I completely agree, she acted like she wasn't really that bothered about it after anyway.

[rusticgal]

was my comment to you how about you deana haters read before over reacting.

Your comment was stating that if she cries shes wrong if she doesnt shes wrong...she cant win.... the post is asking about her reaction when she did get5 the letter and how ungrateful it seemed to be....but we cannot seem to discuss Deana negatively without silly comments about Deana haters.

[smeagol]

Your comment was stating that if she cries shes wrong if she doesnt shes wrong...she cant win.... the post is asking about her reaction when she did get5 the letter and how ungrateful it seemed to be....but we cannot seem to discuss Deana negatively without silly comments about Deana haters.

eh i was commenting on the people talking about the crying. which is fair enough isnt it.
i never said anyhting about deana haters. i like her but i,ll happily agree with any bad points she has
how do you want her to be grateful? cause like i said she cries shes in the wrong she doesn't she;s ungrateful. what do people want.? cause its very obvious to me. the letter wasn't sad and it was a anti climax after a day later. n
how many times can she thank ashleigh which i thought was sincere and very nice of her. cause i sure wouldn't as much

[chuff me dizzy]

My reference to A & E and prison were in the context of the threatened assault, which IS a criminal offence. As this is a fact, it can neither be extreme nor offensive. What Conor threatened was extreme and offensive. I would appreciate your pointing out how my abhorrence at threats of sexual assault have offended you. If you spell it out to me, I may understand and this would be of mutual benefit.

IF it a "criminal offence"as you claim why is he still in the pc crazy bb house? utter rot

[chuff me dizzy]

Your comment was stating that if she cries shes wrong if she doesnt shes wrong...she cant win.... the post is asking about her reaction when she did get5 the letter and how ungrateful it seemed to be....but we cannot seem to discuss Deana negatively without silly comments about Deana haters.

Like a school playground isnt it?

[optimisticcynic]

IF it a "criminal offence"as you claim why is he still in the pc crazy bb house? utter rot

Threatened violence is an assault, actual violence is battery. Look it up mate!

[Marc]

Wonder if she'll come across that ungrateful when she wins

[Marc]

Try not to argue guys. Stay on topic please

[optimisticcynic]

I thought Chuff and I had remained sufficiently civil, but hey-ho! Deana to come 3rd, warts and all.