"Mr and Mrs" comment

[erinp5]

Taken from DS
They are discussing the fact that Luke A did not nominate Becky and Becky contemplates thanking him. Caroline says that this was "so tactical". There's a bit more discussion about who they nominated instead and Luke S said he thought it was him. Caroline then interjects with "Mr and Mrs Tactical" to which Luke says "Mr and Mr?". But no clarification is forthcoming from Caroline at that point.

She is a piece of work

[erinp5]

Twitter picked it up
http://twitter.com/LukeA_BB

[Withano]

It was tactical voting. Luke A is only perceived as nice 'cos he's an outsider.

[In the Drunk Tank]

I heard it but it wasn't really clear what she was referring to or meant by it

[Jords]

It was tactical because by normal noms Becky wouldnt be up with Luke A's vote. Being tactical is not a bad thing especially after all the influencing them ****ty Insiders have done!!

[In the Drunk Tank]

I think it's the "Mr and Mrs Tactical" comment which is the issue, Luke A's official Twitter seems to think it was a slight against his gender

[InOne]

She could've been on about Deana

[erinp5]

She wasnt on about Deana ,why would LukeS say Mr and Mr.
Caroline is nasty.

[Jords]

I think it's the "Mr and Mrs Tactical" comment which is the issue, Luke A's official Twitter seems to think it was a slight against his gender

oh nah she talks before she thinks all the time

[ChristmasNeeve]

I love the way they're blaming Deana, Adam and Luke A for all their votes and saying it was tactical. Conor, Luke S, Ashleigh and Caroline are all up so either they all had different votes or they have to consider the possibility that Scott and Sara also voted for them.........that penny doesn't seem to have dropped at all

O/T that never occurred to me at all about the Mr and Mrs thing, I assumed they were talking about Deana

[Marc]

I heard it but it wasn't really clear what she was referring to or meant by it

This.

[Jake.]

http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/97732-big-brother-2012-complaints-after-caroline-calls-luke-a-mrs.html

[karezza]

I presumed she was talking about 2-faced Deana and LukeA.

[Gillian-73]

I heard it but it wasn't really clear what she was referring to or meant by it

This! It could have been that Caroline was refering to Deana and Luke A (Mr & Mrs) but Luke S disagreed by thinking it was Adam and Luke A (Mr & Mr)!
I haven't explained that very well but i know what i mean lol

[chuff me dizzy]

I think it's the "Mr and Mrs Tactical" comment which is the issue, Luke A's official Twitter seems to think it was a slight against his gender

I would never defend Caroline,but doubt very much she meant Lukes gender i think she meant Deana

[MeMyselfAndI]

Was that Mrscomment implying Luke A :shocked:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

To me it sounded like she was slating him about his sex change, but I maybe totally wrong that's just my opinion.

[coolface]

here comes the outrage

edit: would bb not consider that being "transphobic" and worthy of a warning, she already got warned for the gorilla comment

[Vicky.]

Probably. Shes gotta be one of the most ignorant people I have ever seen.

[karezza]

I presumed that Caroline was talking about Deana and LukeA. The politically correct thought police will presume otherwise and condemn her.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I assumed she was talking about Deana and Luke A as well

[Jayson]

OH MY GOD WHAT A BITCH :mad:

[optimisticcynic]

50/50. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt....

[ChristmasNeeve]

OH MY GOD WHAT A BITCH :mad:

:laugh:

[Jords]

She speaks before thinking.

[Marc]

She's dumb.

[AshesonMars]

I loathe Caroline, but I think she was talking about Deana and Luke A, with Deana being the 'Mrs.' Nothing transphobic in that.

[Maia]

I presumed that Caroline was talking about Deana and LukeA. The politically correct thought police will presume otherwise and condemn her.

[2]

[In the Drunk Tank]

Luke S causing the trouble with his "Mr and Mr?" comment it seems

[Suze]

Has she now secured her ticket home Friday with that comment?

[Marmalite]

Sorry but how the hell could he be voting tactically if he (or any other HM for that matter) had no idea that anyone with 1 nom against them would be up for eviction?

What difference would it have made if it was a normal most noms goes up, as she then would have only had 1 vote and still wouldn't have been up and nobody would've known whether he did or did not vote for her.

Caroline was being stupid, but even more stupid were her minions who all completely agreed with her about how tactical he was by not voting for her. Huh???

Then of course she has to put the spitefulness back into the conversation by calling Adam and Luke A "Mr and Mrs". She's a real spiteful, vindictive spoilt little girl who is all mouth behind a person back but lovely and sweet to their faces.

I really, really hope that Brian lets her have it when she finally gets thrown out of the house ... but I won't hold my breath as he wants to be liked too much.

[Patricia4]

She's not a bitch you dont know what happened your playing the guessing game.

[MatthewS]

I presumed that Caroline was talking about Deana and LukeA. The politically correct thought police will presume otherwise and condemn her.

[3]

[erinp5]

Watch it again Luke S and Conors face give it away IMO.

[erinp5]

http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/906275-big...sgender-remark

[WCR1942]

So four ignorant idiots in a game show accuse a competitor of TACTICAL voting.
What is the world coming to.

[Munchkins]

If she did say that referring to Luke A, then she's just stupid
I do feel sorry for her, the hate she is recieving, i think is OTT

[chuff me dizzy]

To me it sounded like she was slating him about his sex change, but I maybe totally wrong that's just my opinion.

Wish we could watch it again ,i wiped it off my v+ after watching it

[Munchkins]

Was it on BOTS? I Missed it last night...
So may go watch it on iplayer..

[chuff me dizzy]

Was it on BOTS? I Missed it last night...
So may go watch it on iplayer..

Not sure which one it was on ,sorry

[Jack_]

Uh oh...

I thought it was about Luke A and Adam but never picked up on perhaps the real meaning of her comment. I just thought she'd made a mistake as the phrase people usually use is 'Mr and Mrs' and that Luke S had just corrected her, never thought it could've been a transphobic dig...interesting.

[Censored]

If she did say that referring to Luke A, then she's just stupid
I do feel sorry for her, the hate she is recieving, i think is OTT

Agree that the hate is OTT, but I can't feel sorry for her. She gives me the creeps tbh. She's like Margaret Thatcher's Mini-me.

Annoying all the PC outrage, though. Nobody but her knows who she meant. Maybe she meant Deana and Luke A, and Puke S was saying he thought it was Adam and Luke A? Who knows?

[Gillian-73]

Was it on BOTS? I Missed it last night...
So may go watch it on iplayer..

No, the highlights

[Indy]

In context - the discussion up to that point was about Adam and Luke A, not Deana. Conor mentioned them, Caroline threw out her Mr & Mrs slam, and Luke S looked at her like she'd seriously screwed up and corrected that to "don't you mean Mr. and Mr."

While it's possible Caroline could've been ignoring half the conversation and thought they meant Deana, it's not in her nature to lump Deana in with that group she hates. She hates Adam and Luke A, but she considers Deana her friend, and as such, hasn't nominated her (yet). She has no idea Deana nominated her, either. In other words, from Caroline's perspective, there's no reason for her to lump Deana into a discussion about "sneaky" people when Adam and Luke A are on the table.

Ultimately, BB isn't going to do anything about it anyway, because it's too far gone now, but the issue is with her referring to Luke A as "Mrs", not with the Insiders accusing anyone of being tactical (or in Conor's world, tactile).

[Josy]

If she did say that referring to Luke A, then she's just stupid
I do feel sorry for her, the hate she is recieving, i think is OTT

No she's not stupid she's just a nasty bitch of a girl, and any hate she's getting is deserved.

Tonight when she was laughing while Luke A was discussing his transition was just another nasty ignorant thing to add to a long list of what she's done.

[boomoo]

Taken from DS
They are discussing the fact that Luke A did not nominate Becky and Becky contemplates thanking him. Caroline says that this was "so tactical". There's a bit more discussion about who they nominated instead and Luke S said he thought it was him. Caroline then interjects with "Mr and Mrs Tactical" to which Luke says "Mr and Mr?". But no clarification is forthcoming from Caroline at that point.

She is a piece of work

But why weren't they punished for this talk?. They should be up for eviction next week.

[Jack_]

I think we can probably assume she meant it nastily after her ignorantly laughing during Luke's explanation tonight...

She really is a vile, spoilt, ignorant little brat. Shame she inadvertently makes good TV.

[the truth]

Agree that the hate is OTT, but I can't feel sorry for her. She gives me the creeps tbh. She's like Margaret Thatcher's Mini-me.

Annoying all the PC outrage, though. Nobody but her knows who she meant. Maybe she meant Deana and Luke A, and Puke S was saying he thought it was Adam and Luke A? Who knows?

maggie thatchers mini me :wavey: line of the week for me
u can just imagine caroline laughing demonically as she closes all the steelworks and the mines, dreadful

[Jamie585]

Not defending her, but i think this has been blown way out of proportion!!! she didn't mean it in that way, it's obvious :L i say that about my mates sometimes, it was not a dig at him being transgender at all!! your just looking for an excuse to get her out! BUT i do think she's a vile creature who should be out this friday :)

[chuff me dizzy]

No she's not stupid she's just a nasty bitch of a girl, and any hate she's getting is deserved.

Tonight when she was laughing while Luke A was discussing his transition was just another nasty ignorant thing to add to a long list of what she's done.

Yes shes truly awful ,and ignorant ,shes SO lucky to have got away with it so far ,how many evictions has she jumped up and punched the air when the hm8s name as been called out ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Ive just had my daughter on the phone shes catching up, she was in tears she was SO furious about Caroline comment ,like she said if race had been mentioned Caroline would have been removed and the papers would have been full of it

[rayheartbliss]

at first i thought she was referring to Deana, but that didnt make sense cuz shes not really a Deana-hater
then i thought why would luke s correct her if she wasnt referring to luke a, and she didnt even correct luke s that she was referring to Deana

i feel sorry for her shes ignorant

[rayheartbliss]

at first i thought she was referring to Deana, but that didnt make sense cuz shes not really a Deana-hater
then i thought why would luke s correct her if she wasnt referring to luke a, and she didnt even correct luke s that she was referring to Deana

i feel sorry for her shes ignorant

[erinp5]

Ive just had my daughter on the phone shes catching up, she was in tears she was SO furious about Caroline comment ,like she said if race had been mentioned Caroline would have been removed and the papers would have been full of it

I know 10year olds that have empathy,she has none .

[chuff me dizzy]

at first i thought she was referring to Deana, but that didnt make sense cuz shes not really a Deana-hater
then i thought why would luke s correct her if she wasnt referring to luke a, and she didnt even correct luke s that she was referring to Deana

i feel sorry for her shes ignorant

I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but after my daughter rung tonight and she said you only had to look at Luke S`s face to know she was talking about Luke A ,I realised I had wondered about luke S`s face ,shes sick in the head, but what pisses me off is the double standards of everyone forget it now, yet what Conor said WEEKS ago is brought up daily

[chuff me dizzy]

I know 10year olds that have empathy,she has none .

My 3 yr old Grandaughter is more caring and loving ,selfless than this "grown woman"

[rayheartbliss]

I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but after my daughter rung tonight and she said you only had to look at Luke S`s face to know she was talking about Luke A ,I realised I had wondered about luke S`s face ,shes sick in the head, but what pisses me off is the double standards of everyone forget it now, yet what Conor said WEEKS ago is brought up daily

yeah i was just about to refer to luke S's reaction, it was clear that they knew they were referring to look A

sometimes i do wonder if they have something against luke A , cuz i never really saw what luke A did for him to become their enemy
i cant help but think in the back of their minds they look down on luke A because he's transgendered

i cant work out wether she lacks brain or heart

[ChristmasNeeve]

Ive just had my daughter on the phone shes catching up, she was in tears she was SO furious about Caroline comment ,like she said if race had been mentioned Caroline would have been removed and the papers would have been full of it

Originally I thought she was talking about Deana but since her disgusting behaviour at the dinner party while Luke was speaking about his regrets etc then I think that yeah maybe she was having a pop at him. Horrible, horrible girl

[rayheartbliss]

remember her reaction when luke A told them that he was born female
she couldn't even look him in the eye
but i gave her the benefit of the doubt cuz she said to him 'everyone is so unque' but we know how twisted she is.

glad shes no child of mine

[rayheartbliss]

remember her reaction when luke A told them that he was born female
she couldn't even look him in the eye
but i gave her the benefit of the doubt cuz she said to him 'everyone is so unque' but we know how twisted she is.

glad shes no child of mine

[TerriCarol]

I presumed that Caroline was talking about Deana and LukeA. The politically correct thought police will presume otherwise and condemn her.

Me too! your right why condemn when they don't know??

[TerriCarol]

So four ignorant idiots in a game show accuse a competitor of TACTICAL voting.
What is the world coming to.

It was blatant tactics.. if it was'nt for the 1 vote rule no housemates would have found out.. Luke's not silly he knew it would'nt take a genius to work this out.. his face said it all

[TerriCarol]

Originally I thought she was talking about Deana but since her disgusting behaviour at the dinner party while Luke was speaking about his regrets etc then I think that yeah maybe she was having a pop at him. Horrible, horrible girl

Caroline was not laughing at Luke A for the reasons you think.. if you get a chance to watch it again she laughed at the sharp way Luke corrected Becky when she got the name of something wrong.. & Beckys fluffed reaction.. Its harsh to assume anything different. She's a 19 year old girl that got the giggles at the wrong time but nothing more than that

[ChristmasNeeve]

Caroline was not laughing at Luke A for the reasons you think.. if you get a chance to watch it again she laughed at the sharp way Luke corrected Becky when she got the name of something wrong.. & Beckys fluffed reaction.. Its harsh to assume anything different. She's a 19 year old girl that got the giggles at the wrong time but nothing more than that

You keep telling yourself that............

[chuff me dizzy]

You keep telling yourself that............

Exactly !!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Also, that "she's a 19 year old girl who got the giggles"? That logic might apply if she were 12, at 19 she should have some more self control and tact

[chuff me dizzy]

Also, that "she's a 19 year old girl who got the giggles"? That logic might apply if she were 12, at 19 she should have some more self control and tact

Exactly, why shes lasted this long in there baffles me, shes been awful from day one ,doing her spiteful giggling and bitching ,if it had been vote to evict she would easily go tonight,but I can see her staying and Sara going as she doesnt seem to have much of a fanbase

[ChristmasNeeve]

Exactly, why shes lasted this long in there baffles me, shes been awful from day one ,doing her spiteful giggling and bitching ,if it had been vote to evict she would easily go tonight,but I can see her staying and Sara going as she doesnt seem to have much of a fanbase

That would be a shame, I'm really starting to like Sara. She's been quiet for alot of the show but she seems to be finding her feet lately. She was spot on in what she said to Caroline too in the garden during last nights H/Ls, I don't think it was even just about that one conversation either, I think she also had what happened with Luke A in mind when she said that Caroline tries to belittle people.

[Kizzy]

caroline have meant adam and deana, luke S could have meant adam and luke A...Hard to say really.

[chuff me dizzy]

That would be a shame, I'm really starting to like Sara. She's been quiet for alot of the show but she seems to be finding her feet lately. She was spot on in what she said to Caroline too in the garden during last nights H/Ls, I don't think it was even just about that one conversation either, I think she also had what happened with Luke A in mind when she said that Caroline tries to belittle people.

Yes i cheered her too,but i fear shes left it too late

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yes i cheered her too,but i fear shes left it too late

I don't know I still think more people will vote for her than Ashleigh or Luke S, they don't seem to have any fans really

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't know I still think more people will vote for her than Ashleigh or Luke S, they don't seem to have any fans really

I think they will be the bottom 3 ,I doubt we are in for a shock tonight )mores the pity :bawling: ) would have LOVED to see Deanas face if she had lost out to 7 others,but Im not stupid, its not going to happen

[ChristmasNeeve]

I think they will be the bottom 3 ,I doubt we are in for a shock tonight )mores the pity :bawling: ) would have LOVED to see Deanas face if she had lost out to 7 others,but Im not stupid, its not going to happen

hahaha not a hope Chuff!!

But yeah I'd be shocked if those 3 weren't bottom, the interesting thing about it though is 5 of them have never faced the public vote though so have no real gage where they'll rank!

[chuff me dizzy]

hahaha not a hope Chuff!!

But yeah I'd be shocked if those 3 weren't bottom, the interesting thing about it though is 5 of them have never faced the public vote though so have no real gage where they'll rank!

I know its only a dream I will have to drown my sorrows in wine :bawling: ,If it was vote to evict it would be a totally different result, I much prefer evict ,to save

[ChristmasNeeve]

I know its only a dream I will have to drown my sorrows in wine :bawling: ,If it was vote to evict it would be a totally different result, I much prefer evict ,to save

Caroline would be gone for sure if it was vote to Evict. Usually I prefer vote to Save as it keeps in the entertaining ones (even if I don't like them) But at this stage I'd rather Caroline went as it's so close to the final and I'd hate for her to make it through by default

[chuff me dizzy]

Caroline would be gone for sure if it was vote to Evict. Usually I prefer vote to Save as it keeps in the entertaining ones (even if I don't like them) But at this stage I'd rather Caroline went as it's so close to the final and I'd hate for her to make it through by default

Ive never liked vote to save, its a way for them to make extra cash ,this weeks ive voted Adam,Conor,Luke A, where if it had been evict I would have only voted Deana

[chuff me dizzy]

Caroline would be gone for sure if it was vote to Evict. Usually I prefer vote to Save as it keeps in the entertaining ones (even if I don't like them) But at this stage I'd rather Caroline went as it's so close to the final and I'd hate for her to make it through by default

Ive never liked vote to save, its a way for them to make extra cash ,this weeks ive voted Adam,Conor,Luke A, where if it had ben evict I would have only voted Deana

[ChristmasNeeve]

Ive never liked vote to save, its a way for them to make extra cash ,this weeks ive voted Adam,Conor,Luke A, where if it had been evict I would have only voted Deana

I suppose although It hasn't helped them much this year when most of the evictions have been one on ones. I suspect that's why they through in the twist this week

[Parmy]

Taken from DS
They are discussing the fact that Luke A did not nominate Becky and Becky contemplates thanking him. Caroline says that this was "so tactical". There's a bit more discussion about who they nominated instead and Luke S said he thought it was him. Caroline then interjects with "Mr and Mrs Tactical" to which Luke says "Mr and Mr?". But no clarification is forthcoming from Caroline at that point.

She is a piece of work

i took it to mean lake a and deana or luke a and adam, no big deal really.