Is BB a fix?

[jackc1806]

Your opinions, please vote

[reece(:]

The white room task was a massive fix

[Black Dagger]

I hate people who shout fix... especially when it's things like Aaron winning BB12... Nicola & Shannon Twins staying over Kirk & Cassidy. :bored:

Well actually, those were quite funny.

But I don't think it's 'fixed'... incredibly biased at times though.

[Mystic Mock]

Of course it's fixed, it proved it the week Lauren went when they had Conor and Caroline deciding who won the tasks, and then the Housemates nominated face to face knowing that people would be scared at nominating Conor, and Conor and Caroline discussed nominations which once again wasn't dealt with by BB.

[Josy]

No.

And all the conspiracy ****e that gets posted is so bloody annoying tbh.

[Mrluvaluva]

I think parts of it are most definitely. It also has hugely biased editing sometimes. It's an entertainment show though.

[joeysteele]

I have reservations as to how biased most of the editing can be as to the highlights and I do believe possibly some engineering takes place as to the status of housemates but as for fixing results I would have to say no.

[slickster24]

It is fixed towards the end.

They should start earlier and keep guys like bennedict in though. Guy would have had good arguments

[rionablue]

its not fixed because even if Conor gets to the final he wont win. I cant understand why people who like certain housemates and see them revealed in a bad light on BBOTS say its biased or if Big Brother does something they dont like they cry FIX. It cant be a fix because there are regulations and rules governing it which are always monitored. So no its NOT FIXED

[JamesBond]

Yes! I'm sure some people are making money betting early on douchebags to stay in longer than they should.

[MTVN]

No, it's very easy to claim fix but people seem to have a much harder job explaining why (as in what C5's motivation would be)

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's not fixed. People resort to calling it a fix when something seemingly inexplicable happens against their favorites. They resort to how BB has picked its "chosen ones" and as a response, the forums pick their own "chosen ones" and become laughably hypocritical.

There were all sorts of myths last year about how the show was fixed against Aaron even though it was obvious as soon as Mark walked that it was his game to lose. The Aaron fans would always insist that THIS IS AARON'S LAST WEEK GUYS, BB IS *REALLY* OUT TO GET HIM SO WE ALL HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM! And then Aaron would top every vote with ~72% and yet for some reason, people doubted he was going to win?

And guess what? The same ****'s happening with Deana. Everyone's crying this week that it's a fix because of the "voting problems" (which have just caused people to call in and vote for Deana and Luke A even more) and that the show is out to protect "chosen one" Becky despite the fact that her edit has been horrendous for the past month and she has no fans besides her friends, family, and bigbrother12. Everyone is going to make a big deal when Becky's evicted and we "beat" the nonexistent rigging. And come twelve days time, they'll make an even bigger deal about how Deana has overcome all the odds (despite leading the betting odds for weeks on end) and will be declared the greatest winner ever and we'll never hear the end of it.

So yes, a majority of people will say that it's rigged, despite the fact that Deana's had a tremendous edit for just about the whole season. And come August 13th, we'll hear about all the rigging she overcame and how she was in so much danger, despite topping the vote every week and always being at the top of the betting odds.

And before anyone says that I'm biased, this is coming from a Deana fan.

[Mystic Mock]

I will tell you Ch5's motivation MTVN, it's that they want the show to turn into TOWIE and they are trying so hard to get a winner like that, and especially if they look like a model ie Sara, Conor, Luke S.

[Jords]

They fix some things for sure.

[flamingGalah!]

Yes, as they deliberatley create situations to favour certain housemates... :nono:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I will tell you Ch5's motivation MTVN, it's that they want the show to turn into TOWIE and they are trying so hard to get a winner like that, and especially if they look like a model ie Sara, Conor, Luke S.

Well considering the rubbish edits that the "TOWIE" HMs are getting, C5's doing a ****ty job at fixing it.

[MTVN]

I will tell you Ch5's motivation MTVN, it's that they want the show to turn into TOWIE and they are trying so hard to get a winner like that, and especially if they look like a model ie Sara, Conor, Luke S.

And what is their motivation for that when:

- Big Brother is a much bigger show that gets better ratings than TOWIE

and

- Luke S and Conor clearly aren't as popular as the outsiders

It makes no sense.

[Mystic Mock]

Well considering the rubbish edits that the "TOWIE" HMs are getting, C5's doing a ****ty job at fixing it.

Because TOWIE people aren't very nice people, and Sara is quite popular so not all are hated and getting bad edits as I think Sara gets very kind edits tbh.

[Mystic Mock]

And what is their motivation for that when:

- Big Brother is a much bigger show that gets better ratings than TOWIE

and

- Luke S and Conor clearly aren't as popular as the outsiders

It makes no sense.

They are trying to make The Outsiders look boring, I know there not though as I do check the videos thankfully.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Because TOWIE people aren't very nice people, and Sara is quite popular so not all are hated and getting bad edits as I think Sara gets very kind edits tbh.

Sara's getting a good edit because she's actually a good person. If C5 was REALLY trying to fix a show, they'd do a better job at it. Seriously.

[rayheartbliss]

they cant fix an entire series but its pretty obvious that bits from different weeks are fix

for example charley's fake eviction in bb8
they knew she was gonna be nominated before the whole fake week thing
if it wasnt for that twist she would have gone that week
and actually before that she was saved week3 when they certain hms were given punishment of disqualifying their nominations resulting charley's escape from being up


this year though more than ever lots of time the show has been so biased
face to face nominations? surely they knew that would result in certain hms not being nominated.

arron and shivonne
funny how they were at their worst during the week they got evicted, sure i think that when it comes to voting its not fixed, but they create high influences on the general public on how they should vote. conor didnt even appear during week6, guess who got evicted? the person he was up against, shivonne.

this is even more obvious on BBBOTS when conor made that sexual violence rap, it was clearly the main topic that should have be touched upon that week, yet it never became a question on any episodes (its been mentioned but not property discussed) they've given more airtime for that pointless jenny girl from task team when there was clearly a bigger and more serious topic that should have been discussed. and whenever its starting become a big discussion they always seem to dismiss the topic.

[rayheartbliss]

they cant fix an entire series but its pretty obvious that bits from different weeks are fix

for example charley's fake eviction in bb8
they knew she was gonna be nominated before the whole fake week thing
if it wasnt for that twist she would have gone that week
and actually before that she was saved week3 when they certain hms were given punishment of disqualifying their nominations resulting charley's escape from being up


this year though more than ever lots of time the show has been so biased
face to face nominations? surely they knew that would result in certain hms not being nominated.

arron and shivonne
funny how they were at their worst during the week they got evicted, sure i think that when it comes to voting its not fixed, but they create high influences on the general public on how they should vote. conor didnt even appear during week6, guess who got evicted? the person he was up against, shivonne.

this is even more obvious on BBBOTS when conor made that sexual violence rap, it was clearly the main topic that should have be touched upon that week, yet it never became a question on any episodes (its been mentioned but not property discussed) they've given more airtime for that pointless jenny girl from task team when there was clearly a bigger and more serious topic that should have been discussed. and whenever its starting become a big discussion they always seem to dismiss the topic.

[MTVN]

They are trying to make The Outsiders look boring, I know there not though as I do check the videos thankfully.

That still doesn't give their motivation lol, and I don't think they're trying to do that at all

[Macie Lightfoot]

arron and shivonne
funny how they were at their worst during the week they got evicted, sure i think that when it comes to voting its not fixed, but they create high influences on the general public on how they should vote. conor didnt even appear during week6, guess who got evicted? the person he was up against, shivonne.

What the **** are you even talking about? Arron and Shievonne self-destructed when they were nominated. That's not fixed, just them being dumb and letting their emotions get the best of them. And you're REALLY surprised that Shievonne was evicted over Conor? You're REALLY surprised that a "hot" Irish personal trainer survived over an outspoken, argumentative black ex-Playboy bunny? You must be new.

And for the record, Conor was just as visible Week 6 as the others.

[Mystic Mock]

Sara's getting a good edit because she's actually a good person. If C5 was REALLY trying to fix a show, they'd do a better job at it. Seriously.

Sara's so nice that she started the bullying against Lauren in the first week, Sara is so nice that she's using Deana knowing that Deana hasn't got many friends/allies in the house.

[Mystic Mock]

That still doesn't give their motivation lol, and I don't think they're trying to do that at all

I already gave you there motivation, it's upto you if you want to agree with it or not.

Anyway BB proved it was fixed when they set up that task to put Lauren and Luke A up against each other.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Sara's so nice that she started the bullying against Lauren in the first week, Sara is so nice that she's using Deana knowing that Deana hasn't got many friends/allies in the house.

Yes, Sara started the bullying of Lauren by trying to sit down and talk things out with her :rolleyes: and it's been obvious that Deana and Sara are genuine friends, but once again the Deana fans will resort to making her the victim.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I already gave you there motivation, it's upto you if you want to agree with it or not.

Anyway BB proved it was fixed when they set up that task to put Lauren and Luke A up against each other.

Did BB also prove it was fixed when nominations were manipulated to help the Outsiders on two different instances? Or do we just ignore those because they went our way?

[Mystic Mock]

Yes, Sara started the bullying of Lauren by trying to sit down and talk things out with her :rolleyes: and it's been obvious that Deana and Sara are genuine friends, but once again the Deana fans will resort to making her the victim.

Sara got the whole house to rally against Lauren, she didn't even have a reason to dislike her either other than the fact that she was jealous of her looks.:joker:

And Sara only hanged out with Deana when Deana topped the four way vote.

[Mystic Mock]

Did BB also prove it was fixed when nominations were manipulated to help the Outsiders on two different instances? Or do we just ignore those because they went our way?

That's nothing compared to BB allowed The Insiders to get away with talking nominations for 7 weeks is it?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Sara got the whole house to rally against Lauren, she didn't even have a reason to dislike her either other than the fact that she was jealous of her looks.:joker:

And Sara only hanged out with Deana when Deana topped the four way vote.

She didn't rally the whole house. And yes they did only show her being friends with Deana after the vote, but Sara's always done her own thing and marched to the beat of her own drum. She cried tears of joy when Deana topped the vote. They were never on bad terms beforehand.

That's nothing compared to BB allowed The Insiders to get away with talking nominations for 7 weeks is it?

That's exaggerated, as are most of your points. How can you say it's nothing when the Outsiders have had help in escaping nominations on TWO different instances? But as usual, it's all tunnel vision and people will ignore what they want to ignore.

[Mystic Mock]

She didn't rally the whole house. And yes they did only show her being friends with Deana after the vote, but Sara's always done her own thing and marched to the beat of her own drum. She cried tears of joy when Deana topped the vote. They were never on bad terms beforehand.



That's exaggerated, as are most of your points. How can you say it's nothing when the Outsiders have had help in escaping nominations on TWO different instances? But as usual, it's all tunnel vision and people will ignore what they want to ignore.

Sara did try and rally the house against Lauren, it's just that some Housemates still was willing to give Lauren a chance.

And how is it exaggerated? BB helped The Insiders escape 7 evictions, The Outsiders on the other hand never would have been in danger of being evicted if BB had punished The Insiders sooner.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Sara did try and rally the house against Lauren, it's just that some Housemates still was willing to give Lauren a chance.

And how is it exaggerated? BB helped The Insiders escape 7 evictions, The Outsiders on the other hand never would have been in danger of being evicted if BB had punished The Insiders sooner.

Sara's the one who gives people the most chances, so that point's irrelevant.

Really, BB helped the Insiders escape seven evictions?

Week 1: no help here
Week 2: voting was all over the place and Chris's eviction was obvious anyways. I know you have some conspiracy theory but Chris wasn't likable, so obviously nobody would save him, especially against a "hot" model
Weeks 3/4: obvious block voting, but it's not like this is the first time block voting has ever happened. Nomination talk isn't allowed, but people work around it and often get their votes to match up. This isn't some groundbreaking discovery, it's happened every year.
Week 5: an Insider was evicted
Week 6: an Insider was evicted and BB helped the Outsiders avoid nominations. Mhm, the show's rigged against the Outsiders :rolleyes:
Week 7: Face to face nominations and the Outsiders absolutely suck at voting strategically. This again, is not groundbreaking news
Week 8: An Insider was evicted
Week 9: One, possibly two Insiders will be evicted

So yeah, BB did not help the Insiders escape evictions. We've seen block voting and dodgy strategy talk before where despite nomination talk being banned, people can work their way around it. As we've seen throughout the whole season, the Insiders are good at block voting. The Outsiders are not. They sucked strategically when Lydia was around, they sucked strategically after Lydia was evicted. Both sides have benefited from nomination twists, there isn't favoritism towards either side. All these conspiracy theories need to be laid to rest.

[Mystic Mock]

Chris was more likeable than Sara or any of The Insiders.

And Sara gives people the most chances? lol then howcome Lauren and Benedict got no chances off her then?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Chris was more likeable than Sara or any of The Insiders.

And Sara gives people the most chances? lol then howcome Lauren and Benedict got no chances off her then?

No he wasn't, especially not to the general public. You act like the votes were fixed against Chris but you should open your eyes and realize that he wasn't that liked (for good reason too.)

Sara does give people the most chances, she actually sits down and tries to talk things out with people as we've seen her to do to Lauren, Caroline, Shievonne, Adam, and Deana. That's more than you can say about the others.

All these claims that the show is fixed to please the chavvy crowd are BS considering that the general public likes the Outsiders too.

[Jamie585]

of course it's not a fix.

[reece(:]

Chris was more likeable than Sara or any of The Insiders.

And Sara gives people the most chances? lol then howcome Lauren and Benedict got no chances off her then?
Chris was more likeable than Arron by miles, Chris was brilliant. Yet Arron was saved against him then came last against the likes of Conor and Becky:conf:

[Mystic Mock]

Chris was more likeable than Arron by miles, Chris was brilliant. Yet Arron was saved against him then came last against the likes of Conor and Becky:conf:

Yeah that was a bit fishy tbh as I think Chris would have beaten both Conor and Becky in a four way.

[rayheartbliss]

What the **** are you even talking about? Arron and Shievonne self-destructed when they were nominated. That's not fixed, just them being dumb and letting their emotions get the best of them. And you're REALLY surprised that Shievonne was evicted over Conor? You're REALLY surprised that a "hot" Irish personal trainer survived over an outspoken, argumentative black ex-Playboy bunny? You must be new.

And for the record, Conor was just as visible Week 6 as the others.
why u mad? LOOL

[InOne]

It's a massive fix. But I don't pay money to vote and my fave HM is out so I don't care.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Chris was more likeable than Arron by miles, Chris was brilliant. Yet Arron was saved against him then came last against the likes of Conor and Becky:conf:

Yeah that was a bit fishy tbh as I think Chris would have beaten both Conor and Becky in a four way.

Maybe to you he was more likable but to the general public no. I don't see how Chris's eviction was a surprise to anyone. The voting public is REALLY not that unpredictable. "Hot" young model who walked around shirtless vs. fat guy with annoying voice and a temper? Come on, that's as predictable as ever.

Once again, it's not surprising that Arron came in last in the four way vote. Becky had some momentum in being victimized by Arron/Conor so clearly she would've been second to Deana. And in a vote to save, Conor survived just like he did against Shievonne. Arron self-destructed and annoyed EVERYONE inside and outside of the house. He had the hot shirtless model appeal in the first two weeks, but it wore off quickly.

[Macie Lightfoot]

why u mad? LOOL

I just don't take well to idiocy.

[jackc1806]

It's not fixed. People resort to calling it a fix when something seemingly inexplicable happens against their favorites. They resort to how BB has picked its "chosen ones" and as a response, the forums pick their own "chosen ones" and become laughably hypocritical.

There were all sorts of myths last year about how the show was fixed against Aaron even though it was obvious as soon as Mark walked that it was his game to lose. The Aaron fans would always insist that THIS IS AARON'S LAST WEEK GUYS, BB IS *REALLY* OUT TO GET HIM SO WE ALL HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM! And then Aaron would top every vote with ~72% and yet for some reason, people doubted he was going to win?

And guess what? The same ****'s happening with Deana. Everyone's crying this week that it's a fix because of the "voting problems" (which have just caused people to call in and vote for Deana and Luke A even more) and that the show is out to protect "chosen one" Becky despite the fact that her edit has been horrendous for the past month and she has no fans besides her friends, family, and bigbrother12. Everyone is going to make a big deal when Becky's evicted and we "beat" the nonexistent rigging. And come twelve days time, they'll make an even bigger deal about how Deana has overcome all the odds (despite leading the betting odds for weeks on end) and will be declared the greatest winner ever and we'll never hear the end of it.

So yes, a majority of people will say that it's rigged, despite the fact that Deana's had a tremendous edit for just about the whole season. And come August 13th, we'll hear about all the rigging she overcame and how she was in so much danger, despite topping the vote every week and always being at the top of the betting odds.


And before anyone says that I'm biased, this is coming from a Deana fan.

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Livia]

I hate people who shout fix... especially when it's things like Aaron winning BB12... Nicola & Shannon Twins staying over Kirk & Cassidy. :bored:

Well actually, those were quite funny.

But I don't think it's 'fixed'... incredibly biased at times though.

I'm with you on this one BD. I particularly like your last sentence, it makes a lot of sense.

[Ellen]

Biased editing maybe but not a fix.
People just say that when things are not going the way they want for their favourites.

[Razor]

I don't think it's a total fix but I do think things are manipulated a bit.

[Jordan.]

Everything apart from the voting is fixed somewhat imo. They definitely influence situations far more now than they used to and make stuff up as they go a long for storylines to form.

[alex_front2]

yes - for Conor, Becky to win

- Conor not being kicked out. HMs have been kicked out for less
- Not showing Conors other warnings
- BBOTS refusing to discuss Conors epilator rant and Emma stopping anyone from doiing so but going on and on about BMI
- Becky;s bitchy comments never discussed and confined mainly online
- Hardly any recognition of Deanas popularity on BBOTS
- Facebook goes down week fav no1 deana and no2 luke a HMs are up against weak opposition
- Changing White Room leaving instructions from you leave when you want to one HM must leave and decided amongst Luke S, Conor and Sara just as Sara wavers
- Only showing Beckys sisters nomination on BBOTS preview
- Not allowing Deanas friend to discuss Conors rant
- Emma telling Kirk he'll see Deana on Friday
- lines re-opened 2x to ensure Caz went
- Deana getting the first night nomms role - never rang true
- White room fiasco (initially how it was chosen it was least nommed HM in whole series, then got change that week, unclear rules eg.whether it was for 25,000 GBP
- Week 7 Face to Face nomms - who has the guts to nom Conor. Just Deana

[daniel-lewis-1985]

NO.

[Vicky.]

Manipulated might be a better word. IMO its quite clear they pick quite early on who they think would make them the most cash in the final/an eviction if they were against each other, and do anything possible to get that result. The twists always seem to favour certain people, same with when they change the nominations...

[HBB1508]

I don't think it's a total fix but I do think things are manipulated a bit.

This and the only reason they manipulate it is to get more money out of us from voting - it's is a business at the end of the day.

[erinp5]

It says voting now closed on the ch5 site!!

[EzzaB]

I don't think this series has been as bad as some of the others.
Like, BB11 Josie's series was quite fixed imo.

[Marcus.]

i think it is fixed

[boomoo]

No.

And all the conspiracy ****e that gets posted is so bloody annoying tbh.

The very fact that BB can change rules at any time means that it is always fixed.
1 hour highlights means we have no idea what these housemates are like. Therefore it is fixed in that we can only vote based on what we are shown. If we are not shown a housemate apologising for something they have done we will have the wrong idea about them.
The week Lauren went was a definite fix. Who would dare nom Connor face to face after the rage when he found himself nominated in secret? this meant he was not up against Lauren.
It is obvious that someone in the BB team wants Connor to win. Sorry to repeat this but in previous BBs he would have been sent home.

[glasstangerine]

I don't think it's a fix in that they don't care who wins, but I do think they manipulate situations to get more people voting.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes - for Conor, Becky to win

- Conor not being kicked out. HMs have been kicked out for less
- Not showing Conors other warnings
- BBOTS refusing to discuss Conors epilator rant and Emma stopping anyone from doiing so but going on and on about BMI
- Becky;s bitchy comments never discussed and confined mainly online
- Hardly any recognition of Deanas popularity on BBOTS
- Facebook goes down week fav no1 deana and no2 luke a HMs are up against weak opposition
- Changing White Room leaving instructions from you leave when you want to one HM must leave and decided amongst Luke S, Conor and Sara just as Sara wavers
- Only showing Beckys sisters nomination on BBOTS preview
- Not allowing Deanas friend to discuss Conors rant
- Emma telling Kirk he'll see Deana on Friday
- lines re-opened 2x to ensure Caz went
- Deana getting the first night nomms role - never rang true
- White room fiasco (initially how it was chosen it was least nommed HM in whole series, then got change that week, unclear rules eg.whether it was for 25,000 GBP
- Week 7 Face to Face nomms - who has the guts to nom Conor. Just Deana

Seriously all this ****'s ridiculous. Becky's sister's nominations were only shown on BOTS because of the amount of drama that came from it. BOTS is a show to discuss the biggest recent events, and that was the biggest recent event. There's nothing rigged about it. Emma telling Kirk he'll see Deana on Friday was no sort of rigging, you're clearly just grasping at straws.

The lines getting reopened to ensure Caroline went is bull****. If they wanted to get Caroline out so easily, they would've just kept the nominations Deana/Luke A/Caroline.

Face to Face noms weren't rigged just because "people are intimidated by Conor" or whatever your argument is. Just because some people don't have balls and doesn't mean that's why Luke A and Lauren were nominated. If you haven't noticed, the Insiders are very good at block voting. The Outsiders suck at it. This is what led to nominations like Benedict/Laura, Lydia/Deana, and Lauren/Luke A.

Altogether, all these accusations of how C5 is rigging this for the Insiders are absurd and bull****. The Insiders have been getting complete **** edits and the Outsiders have been given generous edits. If C5 wanted to rig it, wouldn't it be the other way around? And when people talk about rigging nominations, nobody ever talks about Turf Wars and how that helped the Outsiders. Turf Wars were certainly more manipulated than face to face noms, but nobody ever wants to admit that.