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sampvt
03-08-2012, 08:10 AM
Personally my views dont count because BB dosent listen to them, if they did read the forums, they wouldnt condone that dipstick Jamie the gay producers quest to find himself a boyfriend. Even Emma, normally the voice of reason, has become very biased towards HM8,s like Becky. They seem to be making it up as they go along and this latest White room fiasco and 50k giveaway to 2 non hopers is at best ludicrous.

They must have known that luke s and conor would be the last 2 in there and one would take home the prize, so why give 2 seemingly non hopers that chance, their logic is way beyond me. In my eyes they are making themselves look stupid, they have diluted the final, they have opened themselves to outside critisism, they are going to loose viewers for next year and if that numpty Jamie the prod gets a job higher than sweeping up in the future, there is no justice in the world.

If there was someway we the viewers could show BB that they f..ked up with the White room givaway, it might go a long way to rescuing the final. Emma wanted to hear the reaction, how can we tell her.

alex_front2
03-08-2012, 08:15 AM
The funny thing is White Room prize of £50K is better than winners £50k as
- its guaranteed if you take it
- you can be home with fam n loved ones
- you can watch Olympics
- you dont have to eat sh*t food
- you dont have to live with Miss BMI.

saz2011
03-08-2012, 08:22 AM
The funny thing is White Room prize of £50K is better than winners £50k as
- its guaranteed if you take it
- you can be home with fam n loved ones
- you can watch Olympics
- you dont have to eat sh*t food
- you dont have to live with Miss BMI.


haha so true. no reason to take the ticket to the final

sampvt
03-08-2012, 08:25 AM
I just realised, the 50k walker gets BBOTS for a week which is more than the 5th, 4th, 3rd, and 2nd place get. Look at Jay last year, he barely got 10 mins of anything.

coolface
03-08-2012, 08:30 AM
so glad I've given up on this series sounds like it's a complete waste of time, don't know if I'll even tune in to the next one channel 5 have single handedly ruined bb, god awful producers, god awful housemates.

rsefitpro2011
03-08-2012, 08:33 AM
The fact that Conor wasnt thrown out for what he said about Deana, for me is the main reason why the shows gone down hill!

He got a warning, effectively a slap on the wrist, which Conor didnt really care about!. To make things worse hes in this white room with Luke S, with both having the chance of winning a free pass to the final and 50k!

If Conor wins this task, and takes the money BB would have sunk to new lows, even lower than where they have been in the past!

My view on BOTS is that they always show biase towards certain housemates,it was like this in the days of Big Brothers Little Brother, who can forget Dermots fascination with Glynn!.

Last year it was anyone but Aaron on BOTS, this year its Becky, and some of the others!.

jyunga
03-08-2012, 08:56 AM
All this thread proves is that no matter what happens in BB there are always going to be fans complaining about it. Whether the housemates are too boring, too bitchy, the twists are too stupid, the tasks are too boring. If you don't enjoy it, don't watch it? Just because you don't like a twist doesn't mean the worlds ending. Just because you place so much value if retaining that $100k prize doesn't mean all the other 1 million+ fans give two-****s about it.

smeagol
03-08-2012, 09:00 AM
its ridiculus. whoever gets the 50k out of nobby and nobby have basically won the show.

Kizzy
03-08-2012, 09:05 AM
It could be a way of getting the thug out without ruffling any feathers?...

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 09:06 AM
Or maybe they want him to win? ;)

Yayita
03-08-2012, 09:07 AM
Personally my views dont count because BB dosent listen to them, if they did read the forums, they wouldnt condone that dipstick Jamie the gay producers quest to find himself a boyfriend. Even Emma, normally the voice of reason, has become very biased towards HM8,s like Becky. They seem to be making it up as they go along and this latest White room fiasco and 50k giveaway to 2 non hopers is at best ludicrous.

They must have known that luke s and conor would be the last 2 in there and one would take home the prize, so why give 2 seemingly non hopers that chance, their logic is way beyond me. In my eyes they are making themselves look stupid, they have diluted the final, they have opened themselves to outside critisism, they are going to loose viewers for next year and if that numpty Jamie the prod gets a job higher than sweeping up in the future, there is no justice in the world.

If there was someway we the viewers could show BB that they f..ked up with the White room givaway, it might go a long way to rescuing the final. Emma wanted to hear the reaction, how can we tell her.

Sampy I never thought I'd see the day, but YES!! I completely agree with you. Well said!

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 09:08 AM
Sampy I never thought I'd see the day, but YES!! I completely agree with you. Well said!

Conor, Luke S and Becky are massively favoured by the show. It's really obvious! They want one of them to win. :suspect:

MrWong
03-08-2012, 09:08 AM
I think the only thing you can do is make your feelings known on the BB Facebook page, here: https://www.facebook.com/BigBrotherUK

The page is full of viewers complaining about the twist.

jyunga
03-08-2012, 09:10 AM
It could be a way of getting the thug out without ruffling any feathers?...

Or maybe it was just a task they had planned all along?

If the outsiders had of managed to work with some of the floaters and got some of the insiders out it would have resulted it more outsider families voting and we'd have outsiders in the white room right now.

IMO nothing fishy about this task. Insiders have a majority. It makes sense that the insiders would end up the ones not up and would have the chance at the room.

jyunga
03-08-2012, 09:11 AM
Sampy I never thought I'd see the day, but YES!! I completely agree with you. Well said!

You only agree with him cause you are butthurt over Deana possibly losing $50k to a 'vile' creature right?

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 09:11 AM
Or maybe it was just a task they had planned all along?

If the outsiders had of managed to work with some of the floaters and got some of the insiders out it would have resulted it more outsider families voting and we'd have outsiders in the white room right now.

IMO nothing fishy about this task. Insiders have a majority. It makes sense that the insiders would end up the ones not up and would have the chance at the room.

I think they want Conor or Luke S to win. I don't think they were supposed to go in the white room, until they found a way to make it happen.

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 09:12 AM
You only agree with him cause you are butthurt over Deana possibly losing $50k to a 'vile' creature right?

:joker:

jyunga
03-08-2012, 09:15 AM
I think they want Conor or Luke S to win. I don't think they were supposed to go in the white room, until they found a way to make it happen.

What reasoning do you have for that?

Kizzy
03-08-2012, 09:20 AM
Or maybe it was just a task they had planned all along?

If the outsiders had of managed to work with some of the floaters and got some of the insiders out it would have resulted it more outsider families voting and we'd have outsiders in the white room right now.

IMO nothing fishy about this task. Insiders have a majority. It makes sense that the insiders would end up the ones not up and would have the chance at the room.

It was a fix, if three could go in then 3 should have... why say 4 and let them decide who didn't go in?
So conor went in obv..

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 09:23 AM
What reasoning do you have for that?

The people who got the least nomination so far were supposed to go in the white room. Then they said they wrote it wrong and it was the people with the least nominations in the last eviction. It sounds really dodgy! :suspect:

MrWong
03-08-2012, 09:26 AM
It was a fix, if three could go in then 3 should have... why say 4 and let them decide who didn't go in?
So conor went in obv..

Exactly. The 3 with the least F&F nom's were Scott, Sara and Luke S. Why did BB open it up to the least 4 THEN ask the hm's to decide on 3.

That's a hypotheticle question BTW. They opened it up to 4 hm's because they wanted Conor in the ****e Room.

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 09:29 AM
Exactly. The 3 with the least F&F nom's were Scott, Sara and Luke S. Why did BB open it up to the least 4 THEN ask the hm's to decide on 3.

That's a hypotheticle question BTW. They opened it up to 4 hm's because they wanted Conor in the ****e Room.

I agree. Conor shouldn't have been in there.

Kizzy
03-08-2012, 09:34 AM
Exactly. The 3 with the least F&F nom's were Scott, Sara and Luke S. Why did BB open it up to the least 4 THEN ask the hm's to decide on 3.

That's a hypotheticle question BTW. They opened it up to 4 hm's because they wanted Conor in the ****e Room.

Did you see scotts face? do you want to be trapped in a room with luke S and conor?...
http://guycodeblog.mtv.com//wp-content/uploads/clutch/2012/03/m221393910.gif

Sertius
03-08-2012, 09:39 AM
Not sure the producers are bothered who wins. To them it is a show and their priority is revenue. When Conor did his tirade against Deana my complaints went not to the makers but to the sponsors.

It has always been a low brow show with a bunch of wannabes trying to jump on some bandwagon. Thankfully the days of instant fame are gone and once the show is over the HMs quickly fade back into the obscurity from which they originally emerged.

I used to enjoy observing the interactions of the contestants to see how their incarceration affected them. However, in recent years there has been too much manipulation of the audience by the editors. I will not be watching any more series and, since I only ever watch Channel 5 for BB, will have no need to ever tune in to this station.

No doubt next year many of those complaing now will still be tuning in and getting irate at the antics of the HMs and the editors. Good luck!

Kizzy
03-08-2012, 09:45 AM
Yep its all about money, BBis nothing like it used to be, it's a shame :(

ozzyshaggah
03-08-2012, 09:45 AM
It could be a way of getting the thug out without ruffling any feathers?...

this is my opinion :xyxwave:

joeysteele
03-08-2012, 09:54 AM
Scott didn't want to go in because he hates tasks,he has never liked them.
The OP is right that BB virutally ignores the forums, maybe due to the possibility that in the main the forums seem to be at odds with how the public when they vote in evictions a lot of the time.

I recall when Caroline was evicted and Alice was talking to her, Carolime said she had been reading a lot abour herself and also on the forums,to which Alice jumped straight in and said, ''oh never read the forums''.

Personally,I think the white room has been a farce from start to finish, the only thing I have laughed at was them trying to guess the songs the others were dancing to.

I think after friday's eviction was over, they should have, over the weekend done a series of tasks and then on Sunday those who came first and second overall then decide between the 2 offers of one getting a free pass to the final and the other getting 50k but leaving now,rather than ever having the white room at all.

Yayita
03-08-2012, 09:58 AM
You only agree with him cause you are butthurt over Deana possibly losing $50k to a 'vile' creature right?

Nope, because they are treating the audience like idiots. Plus we dont know that Deana is going to win, but the prize should be for the winner in my opinion regardless of who it is.

I'd be butthurt if it was my own money, not some TV personality I don't even know. I don't agree with how the show is beign produced.

Yayita
03-08-2012, 09:59 AM
Conor, Luke S and Becky are massively favoured by the show. It's really obvious! They want one of them to win. :suspect:

I get that feeling sometimes, but then I think... why would they care who wins? How does it affect them?

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 10:01 AM
I get that feeling sometimes, but then I think... why would they care who wins? How does it affect them?

I think they fit better with the kind of shows they produce. :)

Macie Lightfoot
03-08-2012, 10:01 AM
If Conor, Luke S, and Becky were massively favored by production, their edits would be a lot better. They wouldn't edit them so negatively if they were really the "chosen ones," can we please put this myth to rest for once and for all?

arista
03-08-2012, 10:03 AM
Personally my views dont count because BB dosent listen to them, if they did read the forums, they wouldnt condone that dipstick Jamie the gay producers quest to find himself a boyfriend. Even Emma, normally the voice of reason, has become very biased towards HM8,s like Becky. They seem to be making it up as they go along and this latest White room fiasco and 50k giveaway to 2 non hopers is at best ludicrous.

They must have known that luke s and conor would be the last 2 in there and one would take home the prize, so why give 2 seemingly non hopers that chance, their logic is way beyond me. In my eyes they are making themselves look stupid, they have diluted the final, they have opened themselves to outside critisism, they are going to loose viewers for next year and if that numpty Jamie the prod gets a job higher than sweeping up in the future, there is no justice in the world.

If there was someway we the viewers could show BB that they f..ked up with the White room givaway, it might go a long way to rescuing the final. Emma wanted to hear the reaction, how can we tell her.





This year Funding was Cut again
more staff at Endemol and Ch5 were sacked
its all about costings.


Lack of Good Staff and Funding are why it has failed

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 10:03 AM
If Conor, Luke S, and Becky were massively favored by production, their edits would be a lot better. They wouldn't edit them so negatively if they were really the "chosen ones," can we please put this myth to rest for once and for all?

Becky gets way too much screen time. Conor and Luke S have been both put in the white room. Conor was not supposed to be there. Need i say more? ;)

MrWong
03-08-2012, 10:04 AM
If Conor, Luke S, and Becky were massively favored by production, their edits would be a lot better. They wouldn't edit them so negatively if they were really the "chosen ones," can we please put this myth to rest for once and for all?

Ok... but do you think BB fixed it for Conor to go in the ****e room?

Yayita
03-08-2012, 10:06 AM
I think they fit better with the kind of shows they produce. :)

Yes, but if they were to pick a person and then create other shows around that person once they leave the house in order to make more money, I'd believe it. But at this rate, who in that house can make money for C5?

Do you see Luke S, Conor or Becky in a TV show? Would people tune in? Quite frankly none of them are entertaining enough for their own show. Deana has an acting reel and she sucks as an actress, no personality at all comes through her acting reel.

Macie Lightfoot
03-08-2012, 10:09 AM
Becky gets way too much screen time. Conor and Luke S have been both put in the white room. Conor was not supposed to be there. Need i say more? ;)

Becky's screen time is mostly negative, Conor's been portrayed as an asshole, and Luke S has been exposed for his faker than faux fur showmance. Need I say more? ;)

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 10:10 AM
Yes, but if they were to pick a person and then create other shows around that person once they leave the house in order to make more money, I'd believe it. But at this rate, who in that house can make money for C5?

Do you see Luke S, Conor or Becky in a TV show? Would people tune in? Quite frankly none of them are entertaining enough for their own show. Deana has an acting reel and she sucks as an actress, no personality at all comes through her acting reel.

I think their fans would tune in. But i agree, it would be something really awful and tacky! :hugesmile:

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 10:13 AM
Becky's screen time is mostly negative, Conor's been portrayed as an asshole, and Luke S has been exposed for his faker than faux fur showmance. Need I say more? ;)

Becky is always bitching anyway. The fact that Conor was put in the white room with Luke S shows that Big Brother wants him to get the pass to the final. It's so obvious!

sampvt
03-08-2012, 10:32 AM
Sampy I never thought I'd see the day, but YES!! I completely agree with you. Well said!

Well thanks for that. I am just back off my hols so Ive decided to chill out and be more normal and not so agressive. This will naturally depend if my nemesis Mr Wong leaves me alone though, lol.

MrWong
03-08-2012, 10:40 AM
Well thanks for that. I am just back off my hols so Ive decided to chill out and be more normal and not so agressive. This will naturally depend if my nemesis Mr Wong leaves me alone though, lol.

No hard feelings Sam :wavey:

rusticgal
03-08-2012, 10:43 AM
This whole thing is a slap in the face for the voting public. Its a poor way to treat them. without us the programme would not happen...

MrWong
03-08-2012, 10:50 AM
The title of the thread chimes with the ratings decrease too.

Week 1 - 2.16
Week 2 - 2.01
Week 3 - 1.92
Week 4 - 1.83
Week 5 - 1.94
Week 6 - 1.74
Week 7 - 1.66
Week 8 - 1.59

robb
03-08-2012, 10:56 AM
I just realised, the 50k walker gets BBOTS for a week which is more than the 5th, 4th, 3rd, and 2nd place get. Look at Jay last year, he barely got 10 mins of anything.

Exactly. Lauren, shievonne and co have had far more 'airtime' than the finalists will get. They will be forgotten the next day.
But are conor and luke s wise enough to take the 50k??? Or will their ego get in the way?

Razor
03-08-2012, 10:56 AM
I think it's because BB is manipulating things to much.

Vanessa
03-08-2012, 11:06 AM
I think it's because BB is manipulating things to much.

Spot on! :thumbs:

Gillian-73
03-08-2012, 11:12 AM
I think they fit better with the kind of shows they produce. :)

What programmes have we seen any of last years HMs on? I don't think that matters anymore. They all get forgotten about nowadays.

joeysteele
03-08-2012, 11:50 AM
I think it's because BB is manipulating things to much.

I agree with this comment too.

daniel-lewis-1985
03-08-2012, 11:51 AM
Why does Jamies light hearted segment on bots about getting a BF have an impact on the main show?